I’ve seen this before in a movie called The Iraq War
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KennyMoose32Apr 29, 2026
+82
Which one we talking about?
*we have done this a few times now*
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urbanhawk1Apr 29, 2026
+42
The one that was lead by a Republican president named George Bush.
42
doniseferiApr 30, 2026
+12
Again which one, we’ve had a couple of them
12
Agile_Perception_604Apr 29, 2026
+5
I mean the first gulf war was justified. Iraq had done a Russian and invaded a sovereign country
5
Y33TUSMYF33TUSApr 29, 2026
+12
But that second one though
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Dry_Construction_353Apr 30, 2026
+5
*invaded a gulf oil dictatorship propped up by America
5
Give-Me-The-BatApr 29, 2026
+9
F****** reboots. Just no original ideas these days
9
datpiffssApr 29, 2026
+2
If I had a nickel for every time we invaded Iraq I would have two nickels.
That’s not a lot but it’s weird we did it twice.
2
SavageNomad6Apr 29, 2026
+5
Question: do I need to have seem Gulf War 1 and 2 to know what's going on in the 3rd one?
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Sad_Math5598Apr 30, 2026
+6
Not really, it’s basically a soft reboot
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bigrareformApr 29, 2026
+38
It’s okay that movie has a famously happy ending… right?
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ATaxiNumber1729Apr 29, 2026
+13
Yeah, it’s a great feel good flick. Perfect for a date night
13
Beh0420mnApr 29, 2026
+4
Cost an arm and a leg tho
4
AuroraFinemApr 29, 2026
+40
Last time the UN denied the US claims as unsupported, the UN being the ones to claim this gives it a lot more credibility when the UN as a whole largely rejects most current US positions. They have no reason to rubber stamp American findings, especially given how unpopular America is globally right now.
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ProcrastermanApr 29, 2026
+10
I distinctly remember the U.K. going along with American lies about WMDs in Iraq. People at the very top knew the evidence was all faked but staff lower down the food chain were just handed the “dodgy dossier” which they used to come up with advice for the government.
What is the source of the “evidence” because if it came from Israel or America it’s probably not worth the paper it’s written on.
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I_Push_ButtonzApr 29, 2026
+11
> What is the source of the “evidence” because if it came from Israel or America it’s probably not worth the paper it’s written on.
The IAEA, who were allowed to inspect the material until hostilities first began in June 2025. They know the material exists, beyond that they speculate its at Isfahan based on satellite images of Iran transporting large shielded containers on trucks into the facility and never seeing any equivalent transits back out in the time since.
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thecityofgold88Apr 30, 2026
+6
I thought Trump destroyed it all last year?
6
BendicantMiasMay 1, 2026
+2
Even the US' own intelligence contradicted his claims soon after he made it. So of course he threw a tantrum and attacked them too.
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supe_snow_manApr 30, 2026
+9
The same IAEA who can't inspect sites in Israel right?
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AuroraFinemApr 29, 2026
+3
The UK isn’t the UN, the UK agreed under article 5 for NATO. This is the UN coming to their own conclusion based on their own findings, not the US or Israel telling them. The UN Nuclear Agency has their own monitoring process for nuclear proliferation.
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TheWizardApr 29, 2026
+135
“We obliterated it” - June 2025
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Narf234Apr 29, 2026
+1380
Did anyone think this war was going to dissuade Iran from developing nuclear weapons? If anything it only proved that they need them in order to stop a conventional war.
1380
Sir_PoopensteinApr 29, 2026
+679
Threatening to wipe out their whole civilization wasn't going to slow them down any.
679
McortezLSUApr 29, 2026
+175
that f****** tweet was the one thing the regime needed so badly. "Yes we may be bad, but the great satan whom we have ALWAYS warned about, Look! LOOK! What they really think! They want to kill all of you! Wipe us and our civilization out! Love us or hate us, we were the ones who prevented it."
Like how can anyone within iran argue against something like this? This is perhaps one of the greatest blunders in diplomacy to ever occur. You dont say this kind of shit, look at hitler or putin, they never said "Oh yeah we gonna kill you all and take your oil! Yeah, oil thats mine now. haha jk, no kidding, fr fr" Even with bush they never said c*** like this. It was always about "Spreading freedom and democracy and getting rid of dictators" sure, the goal was oil, but it was never said explicitly.
The US hasnt set back US middle eastern relations. They are reset to zero anywhere. While Iran a regime that was teetering on collapse and with a few smart strokes from the CIA and timely clandastine shipments could have fallen. But no.
And the gulf states? Well, they have a combined massive military but suddenly realized, "Oh shit, perhaps i shouldnt have made my cousin ali who thinks dogs cant look up, a general" and that the Trump regimes (the government whihc they always supported, so karma is b**** bitches.) promise of defending their economic interests doesnt extend beyond trumps attention span which generally is half of a news cycle, and the Modus operandi of Potus is to just walk away and ignore the hot mess he creates, by creating an even hotter mess where the media can obsess over.
Ok, sorry for the rant but this m*********** is truly unprecedented.
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melf_on_the_shelfApr 29, 2026
+95
This entire fiasco has also completely neutered any “moderate “ faction in the Iranian government. Negotiations were used as cover for preemptive strikes. Previous trade deals and agreements were reneged. The hardliners in Iran have the run of the range.
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Iron-FistApr 29, 2026
+62
Similar thing happened in Palestine; the relative moderates in the West Bank just got made to look foolish as [settlements and walls and security check points proliferated](https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/F78D/production/_109737336_west_bank_settlements_oct_2019_640_3x-nc.png) after each new agreement.
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melf_on_the_shelfApr 29, 2026
+6
I’d argue it’s different because America actually negotiated with Iran in good faith initially. It is my opinion that after the assassination of Rabin it was Israel, the government that everything it could to degrade Oslo.
Eh: on second thought you’re kinda right- the situation is kinda similar
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Suibian_niApr 30, 2026
+4
The softliners were murdered by Trump as well. So there's that.
4
Guy_GuyGuyApr 29, 2026
+15
Not to mention 30,000-40,000 people who were willing to take to the streets and fight the regime were left to be slaughtered and buried for over a month while the dipshit-in-chief was off doing side quests in Venezuela...
"Help is on the way"... Iranians may never make the mistake of turning to the US for help ever again.
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Unidan_bonaparteApr 30, 2026
+8
Yea need a source on that number.
8
Aggressive-Kitchen18Apr 30, 2026
+17
These tweets will be read 100 years from now. You dont publicly threaten to end a civilization. You just cant do that.
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0vl223Apr 30, 2026
+8
And that's how Trump taught them that their only hope for peace are nuclear weapons aimed at the gulf states and israel. Because one of them has enough dirt on the US to keep them under control at any time.
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tomdon88Apr 29, 2026
+15
And the war was started at the time the Ayatollah was 87 years old, and youth were rising up against the regime including mass protests.
So smart…
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d1ll1gafApr 29, 2026
+18
The US needs an external enemy to justify neglecting it's own people in favor of military spending. During the Cold War it was the USSR; now it's Iran, Russia, and China. If Iran's regime falls to a moderate domestic uprising then they cease to be that enemy.
Russia's failure to fully invade Ukraine and getting bogged down in a war of attrition make it a bad option to be the primary enemy because people will eventually question the need for ever increasing military spending and you can't play either the race or religion cards to keep the fear going.
China doesn't make a better target (even though it has no military disasters to make people question it's capabilities and the race / religion cards remain in play) because of the economic consequences of starting a fight with them (and in America, as with most countries, money rules everything).
Thus the US needs Iran to remain a theological hellhole.
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Guy_GuyGuyApr 30, 2026
+9
Russia was a fantastic opportunity for increasing military spending with the support of the US public. Letting Ukraine f*** up Russia with US equipment was massively and bipartisanly popular for the first couple months until the malignant orange tumor started screeching "BIDEN'S WAR!" and a third of the United States suddenly decided they hated Ukraine.
The memes for that glorious month or two were amazing. Russia's about to find out why we don't have healthcare, the US public holding hands with the MIC for once. The reason Russia couldn't be that enemy is because the current administration and his party are buddies with Russia.
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Gin_OClockApr 30, 2026
+3
There's always the "necessary evil" of more surveillance of their own people every time Republicans push a conflict like this, too. Palantir is going to get shoved into everyone's life
3
YusfilinoApr 30, 2026
+4
People in Iran don't need to read that tweet to understand reality. America and Israel killed 120 school children on the first day of the war and have since targeted critical civilian infrastructure. This is just a vulgar form of US foreign policy, look at Iraq and Palestine and you'll see the same design under different administrations
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fractalifeApr 29, 2026
+16
Lol, they knew better and called that bluff.
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Lard_BaronApr 29, 2026
+211
It will do the exact opposite. Iran would be irresponsible not to go for nukes after this surprise attack.
Look at how N Korea is treated, compare it to Iran and Ukraine.
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Andy_LaVolpeApr 29, 2026
+56
Remember how North Korea was considered Enemy #1 before developing nukes and the media fear mongered how them developing nukes would mean the end of the world.
Now they developed nukes and everyone forgot about them.
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idontcaretvApr 29, 2026
+28
Because the truth is getting nukes is probably one of the best things you can do to ensure your country’s safety.
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DateMasamusubiMay 1, 2026
+3
Maybe for the West. But here in Asia, North Korea is continuously firing ballistic missiles and sabre rattling.
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The_Last_Green_Leaf2May 1, 2026
+2
By fear mongering you mean accurately reporting on north Korea threatening to use those nukes?
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Narf234Apr 29, 2026
+69
All things considered, it might calm things down in the Middle East. No one messes with North Korea and North Korea would be foolish to use their nukes. I’d rather a stalemate over a hot war.
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jugnificentApr 29, 2026
+17
Let's be honest between the Korean war and when North Korea got nukes they were largely being left alone because they had the backing of China. If they didn't have nukes still I doubt anyone would have messed with them ( outside of possibly Trump because he's a singular idiot). Israel has nukes and people still mess with Israel.
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Punished_BlubberApr 29, 2026
+27
But generally speaking, the people who mess with Israel are non-state actors who are not geographically contained. If Israel wanted to use nukes on the people that mess with it, it would basically have to nuke itself and its own citizens along with them.
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Aggressive-Kitchen18Apr 30, 2026
+10
Not really, no army is marching against Israel, because of West support and nukes both. Israel hypes up the threat posed by some lesser armed militias to justify its maximalist expansionist policy. Its a clever strategy really.
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jugnificentApr 29, 2026
+3
Iran is definitely a state actor that has been fighting a hot war with Israel and they haven't nuked Iran. Your point stands about Palestinians and Lebanon where they would be suffering from fallout too if nukes were used.
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Lard_BaronApr 29, 2026
+15
Israel has America behind it. They can do want they want with impunity so long as that’s the case.
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ResplendentSmokeApr 29, 2026
+27
The US and their allies were *far* more hands on with North Korea before they credibly demonstrated the ability to put a nuclear warhead on an ICBM. Through covert operations but also just trying to strangle them financially. Compare how often you had NK related headlines in Western media 15 years ago to today. That’s a conscious decision by the Western national security apparatus to stop making North Korea such an intense propaganda topic.
Who “messes with” Israel? Resistance groups that were born out of Israeli occupations of Palestine and southern Lebanon? That’s not even what’s being discussed here. Nuclear weapons secure your sovereignty as a nation against other nuclear powers. No nuclear armed nation would ever dream of attacking Israel. Because they’re a nuclear power and the colonial outpost of the hegemonic nuclear power.
The fact that asymmetric resistance groups like Hamas or Hezbollah exist at all is because Israel has nuclear weapons and American backing. You’re basically arguing that the existence of like, the Taliban, proves that American sovereignty isn’t guaranteed by nuclear weapons lmao.
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Narf234Apr 29, 2026
+22
No one messes with Israel like they used to. A nuclear armed state doesn’t worry about an existential crisis.
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richardelmoreApr 29, 2026
+7
I think nobody openly attacks Israel any longer because after trying to invade them 4 times (1948, 1956, 1967, 1973) they realized it was futile and started working through non-state actors like Hamas and Hezbollah.
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Spire_CitronApr 29, 2026
+8
Yup. As much as we all hate nukes, that is the reality. They enforce a kind of inequality on the world, where certain countries are simply untouchable and don't get fucked with. How can you blame any country for wanting to be a part of that club, especially one that's been under constant attack in the way Iran has? Imagine what an affront it must be having other countries who do have nukes and who are responsible for constantly f****** with you act like they have the ultimate authority over all this stuff and you're basically criminals for trying to even the playing field.
None of that is to say that having another nuclear country would be a *good* thing, but it does all feel rather hypocritical.
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incunabula001Apr 29, 2026
+105
I guarantee that this war accelerated Iran’s nuclear program, all they got to do is delay the “ceasefire” and then do a test.
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BlueAndYellowTowelsApr 29, 2026
+16
Oh yeah. This war happened and everyone in the government probably asked the question: “Would we be here if we had nukes?”.
…and we all know the answer: no. Iran would have been left completely alone if it had nukes.
How do I know? North Korea exists, has nukes and is untouched by Western and Eastern powers.
It’s not complicated for Iranians or any regime. Get nukes, get safety.
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method_rapApr 29, 2026
+22
Yup this pretty much eliminated all the hurdles by removing the threat of retaliation in case of uranium enrichment.
I mean this is what any other country would do in this situation. The threat of retaliation was the deterrent and now it has evaporated.
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Suibian_niApr 30, 2026
+3
Exactly. The savages will keep attacking Iran no matter how often it tries diplomacy.
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Revolution-SixFourApr 29, 2026
+21
We also killed the guy who issued the "Fatwa against nuclear weapons." Khamenei wasn't a good guy, but he may have actually been constraining the push to complete the bomb. It's unlikely there will be the same restraint with the next guy.
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jmur3040Apr 29, 2026
+5
Russia would not have just walzed into Ukraine if they'd never given up their nukes. Why do you think North Korea continues to exist while being a human rights nightmare?
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sarges_12gaugeApr 30, 2026
+3
They would’ve waltzed into Ukraine hand in hand with the US and UK in 1994 instead lol. There was no world where Ukraine was keeping the Soviet stockpiles
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supe_snow_manApr 30, 2026
+2
Even if they didn't do this, the Ukrainian economy was already bad despite foreign aid which they would never have had if they kept nukes. People also forget to factor nuclear arsenal need to be maintained. Ukraine didn't have the facility for that.
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Briano55Apr 29, 2026
It might put Israel back in their box.
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KissShot1106Apr 29, 2026
+1
They were going to have nukes even if us didn’t bomb them. You know what a fanatic religious country can do with nukes ?
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mrjosemeehanApr 30, 2026
+5
Then why don't they already? We've been hearing that for decades but the only times they make any significant steps in that direction are when the US and Israel abandon diplomacy and pick up a stick.
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WilliamFCheeseburgerApr 29, 2026
+386
wait, I thought we obliterated their entire nuclear program? Was that not true? But Donald told us so...
I love how they’ve let that up as a monument to their idiocy, I hate how their base an all republicans still refuse to see how the everyman billionaire is not actually looking out for anyone but himself.
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KopOutApr 29, 2026
+32
Did it twice in fact! First last summer and then again a couple months ago.
What Trump didn’t realize is that if you obliterate nukes twice, you actually recreate them!!
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FatherOftenApr 29, 2026
+4
Its nukes all the way down! And turtles.
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dirty_w_boyApr 29, 2026
+5
I was assured that all that was left was "nuclear dust"....it's almost like this administration might be lying to us...
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bebopbrainApr 29, 2026
+9
Operation Midnight Hammer was an unmitigated success.
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LeadInvestPBApr 29, 2026
+4
You mean Operation (Get) Hammered (at) Midnight. Pete and Kash lead that operation.
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jackrabbit323Apr 29, 2026
+2
I don't trust a man with national security that can't trust his ability to make it to the toilet.
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GetsBetterAfterAFewApr 29, 2026
+555
Its almost like the JCPOA would have allowed the most intense inspection of uranium enrichment ever on any country in the history of the world.
555
IndercarniveApr 29, 2026
+204
Can't try to justify going to war though if you have an agreement giving you all the things you would go to war for.
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boot2skullApr 29, 2026
+43
We scrapped inspection precisely for this war. Israel supported ~~Hezbollah~~ hard liners precisely to wipe out Palestine. This should be common knowledge if we were honest.
Edit: sorry, I meant support Hamas. Possibly Hezbollah too, but I don’t have info on that. Basically, they help hard liners get into power so that Israel’s only option is force, not diplomacy.
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LimerickJimApr 29, 2026
+33
Didn't we scrap inspection during Trumps first term?
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avocadoflatzApr 29, 2026
+29
Yes. I think they’re trying to say the intention behind that was to lay the groundwork for going to war with Iran
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Aggressive-Kitchen18Apr 30, 2026
+2
Bingo bango, Biden was hard at work to reinstate the agreement ( Trump was elected to dismantle it by the Lobby) he was a few months away from getting a new deal with Iran and guess what f****** happened?
October 7th, Nethanyahu's wet dream happened just in the nick of time. Truly a chosen individual that guy.
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onarainyafternoonApr 29, 2026
+3
Do you have a source?
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namikazeiyfeApr 29, 2026
+4
Wait... Israel supported the Hezbollah now?
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bozza8Apr 29, 2026
+7
Conspiracy theory with regards to Hezbollah for anytime since they became a threat, though I can't speak to the distant past.
They did arguably support Hamas in their early days as an anti-plo faction within Palestine, but not for many years since.
Basically Israel funded some bad people 15-20 years ago, that they are now at war with, same mistake America has made ofc with the Taliban.
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namikazeiyfeApr 29, 2026
+6
>Conspiracy theory with regards to Hezbollah for anytime since they became a threat, though I can't speak to the distant past.
It just a bullshit conspiracy theory which is why I'm surprised anyone would even believe that shit... Unless they're trying to push one or two agendas
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SleepyJMApr 29, 2026
-2
Israel supported Hamas as well.
-2
namikazeiyfeApr 29, 2026
+7
When did they support Hezbollah?
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[deleted]Apr 29, 2026
+47
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Deer_Investigator881Apr 29, 2026
+50
Pettier than that. He wants to have his name on everything.
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jimtow28Apr 29, 2026
+24
Literally this. Obama made that deal, he could never allow it.
He would literally rather have a worse deal with his name on it, or no deal at all, than to have someone else get any credit whatsoever.
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jpiroApr 29, 2026
+5
Obama got a peace prize. Trump has no peace prize. Trump undo what Obama did, then do what Obama did and...Trump peace prize!
The man is a f****** simpleton. Remember that at all times.
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joozyanApr 29, 2026
+12
“Would have”. The JCPOA was in effect for several years.
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angrysquirrel777Apr 29, 2026
+17
Didn't this not call for any inspections of military sites/bases? Wasn't that one of the biggest criticisms of the agreement in the first place?
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BigJellyfish1906Apr 29, 2026
+3
Completely wrong. We had 24/7 surveillance and real-time telemetry to their nuclear facilities.
What you’re half remembering is a bullshit Fox News talking point that mischaracterized the fact that *on top of* that 24/7 surveillance, IAEA inspectors could request access **to any building in the country** to see if Iran was trying to do anything under the table, and that for any of *those non-established buildings*, Iran could delay that inspection 24-72 hours.
But FFS that’s ANY BUILDING IN THE COUNTRY. It’s surprising they agreed to that AT ALL. Forget the time requirement.
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angrysquirrel777Apr 29, 2026
+51
This says otherwise:
https://www-cbsnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/obama-inspectors-access-any-site-iran-true/?amp_gsa=1&_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&aoh=17774818386762&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Fobama-inspectors-access-any-site-iran-true%2F
They could have to wait weeks to get access to certain sites.
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throwawayainteasyApr 29, 2026
+35
This is correct. Under the agreement, inspectors could not access any military facility they wanted at-will. They would need to request access and there were levers available to Iran to delay access for several weeks.
However, it's not as big of a concern as the article makes it out to be. The ability to "clean" a nuclear production facility of all evidence of manufacturing isn't trivial. We have fantastically sensitive detection equipment that a coat of paint can't hide materials from. Plus satellite imagery makes it very obvious if lots of equipment/material is being moved out beforehand. Obviously if the IAEA inspectors request access to somewhere and Iran says no, that's going to rocket that location up the list for areas of interest for intelligence surveillance.
That sort of intel is routine and is exactly how we identify where nuclear facilities or other weapons sites are being staffed up (both in Iran and elsewhere) regularly.
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angrysquirrel777Apr 29, 2026
+21
Sure, but the agreement is not nearly as iron clad as most people on here like to think it was.
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throwawayainteasyApr 29, 2026
+19
Iron clad? No.
Good enough to achieve its goals? Probably.
Far better and more effective than no agreement and sanctions (and eventually war, obviously) like we had instead when it was chucked? Definitely.
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OffbeatDrizzleApr 29, 2026
+5
Iron clad? No...
Iran clad? Yes...
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YourAverageExecutiveApr 29, 2026
+3
You are wrong and sharing bad info.
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Pale_Sell1122Apr 29, 2026
+3
The IAEA inspection Iran underwent are the most rigorous nuclear inspections of all time. Trump ripped it up because he wanted war.
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itslikewoowApr 29, 2026
+2
Here’s an article that aged like milk on the matter!
https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/290720-hillarys-deadly-iran-deal/
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Savings-Subject-1099Apr 29, 2026
+44
Those pesky little WMDs again.. here we go.
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AsrahnApr 29, 2026
+197
They'd be morons to not pursue nukes at this point
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BakedSteakApr 29, 2026
+90
At this point, any country would be doing their citizens a disservice by not attaining a nuke. That’s been the only deterrent from American domination
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JConRedApr 29, 2026
+29
Yeah, and who are the USA and Isreal to decide that noone else is allowed to have the bigbooms... While they threaten everyone.
Deffo the axis of our century
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Narf234Apr 29, 2026
+13
Yeah, otherwise a country could bomb them at will with zero regard for human life or dignity…wait…
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TheRealK95Apr 29, 2026
+6
They’re never NOT going to pursue nukes and the USA & Israel have given them every reason not to.
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arlecApr 29, 2026
+2
Probably just 2 weeks away
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BlueFalcon89Apr 29, 2026
+19
Oh so we’re actually going to invade this time. Got it.
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method_rapApr 29, 2026
+43
Iran is 2 days away from Labour day. Think about that.
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cpt-hddkApr 30, 2026
+16
If only the US had some sort of deal with Iran where one of the key points would be IAEA being allowed to monitor and inspect facilities and suspicious sites so we could know for sure, some sort of joint plan of action that was quite comprehensive. Maybe we could have called it the JCPOA? Maybe we could have had an eye on what they were doing for THE LAST DECADE my God... he's such a f****** idiot
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AcanthisittaNo6653Apr 29, 2026
+17
>The majority of Iran's highly enriched uranium is likely still at its Isfahan
The operative word is '*majority*'
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Additional_Quiet2600Apr 29, 2026
+7
But we wiped it out! -MAGA two months ago.
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FulltimeHoboApr 29, 2026
+5
I thought US blanket MO was invade because X country has WMD, or fight the reds!
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BusyHands_Apr 29, 2026
+62
Is this the new justification for the next round of bombings now?
I feel for the civilians. Iranians, Israelis and Americans all paying the price for their shit leaders who are all extremists.
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snapchillnocommentApr 29, 2026
+32
Israelis are overwhelmingly ecstatic about this war and are opposed to the ceasefire. I don't think they've seen a war in the last decade that they weren't stoked about. We've deluded ourselves into thinking this is some peaceful populace that are heartbroken about having to defend themselves against their neighbors.
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Pale_Sell1122Apr 29, 2026
+36
82% of Israelis supported this war. It's American and Iranian people who are against this war and yet it's still happening.
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Who_Dafqu_Said_ThatApr 29, 2026
+6
To be fair, did they really need any real justification before? Trump could claim we need to bomb/invade Iran because they're close to completely a virus that makes people woke trans atheists, and not a single Republican would question it. The White House said Trump started this war "on a feeling" and not one question from his side.
then some idiot would go "both sides make things up" to try and muddy the waters.
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kstargate-425Apr 29, 2026
+4
Thats the truth as Iran was never close to a nuke, they had 60% enriched uranium but had zero other part of a nuclear program to use the enriched uranium with. All intel agencies continue to reiterate the fact they have stopped any nuclear program back in 2003 and again the only part of a complex program was the enrichment.
So there was no worry about Iran having an actual nuke that they wouldn't be able to deliver anywhere anyway besides by truck and even then our intel agencies said the enriched material and all the enrichment equipment was buried under the mountain during the 12 day war last year, with "no attempts to retrieve it" per DNI Gabbard.
Its all bullshit, all the time...
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AckerackApr 29, 2026
+14
The cool (see: very uncool) thing about America is when it fucks up it impacts the entire world. At least for now. We won’t be relevant much longer if it keeps up like this.
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IllberighteventuallyApr 29, 2026
+9
It's fairly unlikely the US will ever not be a superpower of some sort. Perhaps more regionally locked, but it's geography is kind of insane. If geopolitics were a video game, the US entered the game with hacks turned on.
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chillebekkApr 29, 2026
+6
That presumes that the US will stay in one piece, which is not necessarily a given.
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AckerackApr 29, 2026
+3
I mean, I guess in some sense. You could’ve said the same thing for a ton of empires throughout history though. America isn’t special. It’s clearly on the decline.
People said the same thing about the ussr, and about Russia. Now one is gone and one can barely win a fight with Ukraine. You’re naive if you think the US is just automatically always a superpower.
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[deleted]Apr 29, 2026
+5
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Additional_Quiet2600Apr 29, 2026
+9
It never has. It just comes back around and beats it back until the next fascist statists come along.
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JinkoTheManApr 29, 2026
+4
Democracy only works when your population isn’t dumb as rock or too stressed out to care about politics, or isn’t getting shafted by the system.
In short, democracy only works when the population can enforce it.
4
Aritter664Apr 29, 2026
+4
Nah, Trump promised us the first set of bombings took care of it. I believe him. /s
4
Puzzleheaded_Fan6191Apr 30, 2026
+4
I believe in the Easter bunny
4
IMasterCheeksIApr 29, 2026
+10
For context, they didn’t have it until ole’ Trumpy and crew blew up the previous nuclear deal that was in place. Now they DO have it, since, well, that nuclear deal got blown up.
Wonder who convinced Trump that was a good idea?
10
SleepingToDreamingApr 29, 2026
+28
"There are WMDs in Iraq! They hate us for our freedom!"
*one year later*
"There was no credible evidence of any WMDs."
28
CircumspectCapybaraApr 29, 2026
+19
This isn't the US, it's the IAEA. The UN has no incentive to bolster the US' rationale for military adventures in Iran.
If the UN is saying it, it's probably true.
19
kstargate-425Apr 29, 2026
+1
Yes but per DNI Gabbard, the Isfahan complex, which is buried under the mountain since the strikes last year, where the Iranians have "made no attempt to retrieve it". So this is just saying their enriched uranium was being held at the facility that was buried.
Its just the IAEA confirming that there was zero reality to their bullshit propaganda of needing to start this shitshow of a war as like our Intel agencies repeatedly say, they haven't had a serious nuclear weapons program since early 2000s and the only part of the complex program they did have is now buried 100s of meters under a mountain.
Now we all have to pay for this mess
1
TheMightySet69Apr 30, 2026
+2
"They did not, in fact, greet us as liberators."
2
brightbluesonApr 29, 2026
+2
And no freedom
2
snoopydoo123Apr 29, 2026
+25
at this point i dont blame them
25
dabeemanApr 29, 2026
+3
i have an urge to watch the Black Bush skit from Chapelle Show
3
SophisticatedStonerApr 30, 2026
+2
Who said something about oil, b****? Are you cooking? Oil?
2
Boiling_warmApr 29, 2026
+3
Not surprising. .
This war, Ukraine, north Korea, all have proved it's smart to just rush a nuke ASAP
3
bored_ryan2Apr 29, 2026
+3
Iran is going to put the term “unobliterated” into the dictionary.
3
snewchybewchiesApr 29, 2026
+3
Ah yes, the WMDs again
3
eMan117Apr 29, 2026
+4
Impossible their capabilities were obliterated by trump. He told me so
4
XenomorphismApr 29, 2026
+6
Something something...weapons of mass destruction
6
SilverIdatenApr 29, 2026
+14
Obama had this whole thing solved but now entirely thanks to Trump and his stupid voters, Iran will have nuclear weapons.
OH WELL.
14
Pale_Sell1122Apr 29, 2026
Iran having a nuclear deterrence is not unreasonable, it's country has been explicitly threatened with genocide on several occasions by Trump
0
SpareDot8685Apr 29, 2026
+2
Don’t trust these fake articles, wait for Kid Rocks next press briefing to confirm. maga
2
dabeemanApr 29, 2026
+2
i was told they were obliterated and would never have this!!
how could Donald Trump lie to me like that?!?!
2
YaBoiChillDylApr 30, 2026
+2
Wolf! Wolf! The boy cried there's a wolf again! Who gives a shit? They didn't have shit the first 500 times the government lied about it to kill kids and quadruple gas prices.
2
rangerfan123Apr 30, 2026
+2
No they don’t. The US completely destroyed it a year ago. Our president would never lie about that!
2
wowlock_taylanApr 29, 2026
+5
It is as if they had nothing to go on and started the war because Netanyahu and Israel needed it for their own power grab in the region but in doing so, they pushed Iran to have ALL the justification they need to go forward with building nukes to fight against the 'existential threat'.
And I bet this will still work for Israel since they will continue to have an 'eternal enemy' to blame everything for. These authoritarian regimes NEED eachother to survive, until they get dumb enough to fight and destroy eachother.
5
Practical_Meanin888Apr 29, 2026
+5
I believe Iran has a time machine because they've been few weeks away from having a nuke since 1980s
5
Infamous-Sky-1874Apr 29, 2026
+2
A claim made by the same guy who is using this crisis to keep his corruption trial from going forward.
2
Beh0420mnApr 29, 2026
+5
If only we had a treaty that would prevent this from happening and would let us go in and inspect facilities to verify, if only
5
Spiritual-Pear-1349Apr 29, 2026
+8
Ok. And?
Go after Israels nuclear weapon tests.
8
s9oonsApr 29, 2026
+3
Genuinely asking, are there any real checks and balances on trump sending a nuclear warhead at this facility?
3
BovroniusApr 29, 2026
+12
Hegseths sobriety.
12
PeanutGallryApr 29, 2026
+2
Mr. Stark, I don't feel so good.
2
KimJongFunkApr 29, 2026
+2
If he doesn’t drink enough, no nukes.
If he drinks justttt enough, then nukes.
If he drinks too much, he passes out and then no nukes.
2
CommanderArcherApr 29, 2026
+3
No, but it likely wouldn't be very effective. The facility is likely almost entirely underground so you'd want to use EPWs instead.
3
Bloated_HamsterApr 29, 2026
+2
Only the Vice president invoking the 25th amendment and removing the president from power, or an outright mutiny by the highest levels of the military could prevent the president from launching nuclear weapons. The president has sole and unilateral authority to authorize and order the launch of a nuclear weapon. It's supposed to be a large civilian check on the US military. It's sad having to think about the military being a check on the civilian power of the president.
2
ArdaBerkBurakApr 29, 2026
+5
There was already a nuclear agreement with Iran. Trump canceled it. The U.S. invented a problem that did not exist. Thus, it went to war for Israel. Who is running the U.S.?
5
NinesectApr 29, 2026
+11
I thought Iran wasn't honoring the agreement though?
11
Kaliente13Apr 29, 2026
+1
They have honored the agreement completely, then Trump tore it up in 2018.
1
National-Charity-435Apr 29, 2026
+1
But that's unpossible.
hegseth said that their nuclear facilities were totally obliterated
1
Infamous-Sky-1874Apr 29, 2026
+2
Yeah, well he told Congress this morning that they hadn't totally broken Iran's resolve to get a nuclear weapon so the bombings will continue.
2
PrefersEarlGreyApr 29, 2026
+4
If only there was an agreement made in 2015 that allowed monitoring and adherence to that was subsequently tore up in 2018.
Oh well, now Trump will have to save us from the consequences of his own actions.
4
hertuitionApr 29, 2026
+2
Hooray for another forever war! Im sure our economy will do just fine.
2
MaritimeStarApr 30, 2026
+2
Good. Put in into some bombs please.
2
Z71CoonApr 29, 2026
+1
Iraq also had weapons of mass destruction.
1
nic_haflingerApr 29, 2026
+3
This war is all the justification Iran needs that having nuclear weapons is an existential requirement.
3
doublethink_1984Apr 29, 2026
-3
Enriched uranium ≠ a nuke is made and ready to go or could in a short span of time
-3
ibeerianhamhockApr 29, 2026
+7
Agreed, but it is actually the hard part of developing a nuclear weapon.
7
ProofByVerbosityApr 29, 2026
+1
Classic U.S. play. Help overthrow a democratic government leading to a dictatorship. Eventually sell arms to that dictatorship to fund another geopolitical motive and bring narcotics into the country.
Then eventually push that country into a corner so it is constantly threatened, sanction the shit out of it. Then when they start building means of protection, enter an agreement with them so they don't develop the weapons, then break the agreement, then bomb the shit out of them because there's no agreement.
Iran aren't the good guys, but the U.S. sure as shit isn't either. They contributed to this situation intentionally for decades.
1
Popular_Kangaroo5446Apr 29, 2026
+3
Calling Mousedegh a democratic leader is stretching the definition past its breaking point.
3
EggNo289Apr 29, 2026
+4
It sure is a good thing that Iran doesn't have any enemies that are actively attacking, causing catastrophic damage to it's defense, economy, infrastructure, water supply, etc. It's a good thing they aren't under threat of being invaded or having their oil exporting capability seized/destroyed. It's a really good thing that they have no reason to possibly be motivated to USE a nuclear weapon against someone!
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