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Otherwise-4PM Mar 15, 2026 +221

I wonder who gave them the key.

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So1ange Mar 15, 2026 +49

Yep, who’s holding the cards now?

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Hour-Passenger-8513 Mar 15, 2026 +9

Can't show all the key cards.

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winky9827 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Too bad we can't just...send Doom guy in there. He's great at retrieving key cards.

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Yuukiko_ Mar 15, 2026 +33

Biden apparently if Vance is to be believed

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Ok-disaster2022 Mar 15, 2026 +6

It's pretty amazing how much trouble Biden can get the Pedo Administration into while facing a terminal cancer diagnosis.

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AngryTomJoad Mar 15, 2026 +23

it is amazing we are hoping one govt run by religious fundamentals is going to be more rational than the american religious fundamentals

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ChemsAndCutthroats Mar 15, 2026 +25

Which religious fundamentalist government started the war that led to all this? The Iranian regimes goal is survival. They had no appetite for war. They were near collapse internally. The airstrikes that kill indiscriminately caused the rally around the flag effect. Persians all over the world had one day to celebrate the death of Khomeini only to wake up news of their children dying and the sky now raining oil. What US and Israel didn't count on was that Iran had 40 years to prepare for this attack. They had contingencies to make the war painful, costly, and not worth it. Thinking that the whole regime would collapse after a few surgical strikes is ridiculous. You need boots on the ground for regime change.

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +10

So will we need boots on the ground for a Whitehouse Regime Change .. News just in, Israel kills six Gazan police officers. Israel is above the law .. The US is above the law.

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MelodicPudding2557 Mar 16, 2026 +1

There are problems with half-assed interventions, but not in the way you’ve describe. > caused the rally around the flag effect. Yeah no. After killing and imprisoning tens of thousands across the country and putting the economy in a state of collapse, there’s really no way back for the regime. Not that this immediately matters. If the protest repressions have revealed anything, it’s that a modern totalitarian police state can maintain control for the time being against the fundamental dissent of the vast majority of its populace so long as it retains a loyal hardline cadre that holds a monopoly on violence. As the protests have shown, even just a couple of men with AK’s and several magazines can easily tear through a mass of unarmed civilians. The strikes are far more detrimental to the regime’s survival and ability to hang onto power than you’re making it out to be. More importantly than killing Khamenei, they’ve wiped out the near entirety of the operational high command and upper leadership, and much of Iran’s most advanced military capabilities. In all likelihood, the regime’s gradual demise has been hastened. The problem though is that a true victory for the US in this scenario requires more than significant degradation but complete collapse. Even having taken devastating losses, it takes very little for Iran to put the Strait of Hormuz in standstill, and anything short of immediate collapse gives them plenty of temporal leverage to do so.

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GeshtiannaSG Mar 16, 2026 +1

The regime doesn’t matter. The enemy being a foreign country killing their people doesn’t require any other reason to support kicking out said foreign meddlers.

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MelodicPudding2557 Mar 16, 2026

You’re speaking along the axis of normative geopolitical morality, which is orthogonal to the axis of strategy topical to this thread.

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Staff_Guy Mar 15, 2026 +88

WE ARE GOING TO BOMB YOU UNTIL YOU START DOING WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE WE STARTED BOMBING YOU! ...!! YEAH!! At this point I am bothered less by the abject stupidity coming out of this administration at every turn, and more by the complicity of soooooo many media people. I get the daily beast, et al, bots raining down c*** on social sites in order to do something that I bet even they cannot articulate. But all of the rest of the media that still has humans involved, how are all of you so f****** deep into this shit? How do you ask the most incredibly stupid questions with an earnest expression as if the admin "official" will provide any real or true information? How the f*** do you do this?

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CadianGuardsman Mar 16, 2026 +7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_Consent TL;DC: Their job is to be "stupid" and give the appearance of an institution holding politicians to account while note actually doing so. And that left-right corporate media are usually just centre to right wing in practice and exist to be political theatre. All this admin is doing differently is they just reject using that method of control and resort to older fear based methods.

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wh4tth3huh Mar 16, 2026 +1

They do it for a paycheck and they are apparently immune to shame.

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nebulaforest Mar 15, 2026 +92

But Trump can't admit this war was sham from the beginning

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Well this War has a long ways to go yet .. Christians can look upon it as Gods punishment for allowing a Genocide. I\`ve never known a God to be so angry, i think its either the plague or a famine that comes next .. He might swap out the plague for nuclear obliteration.

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AtheismTooStronk Mar 15, 2026 +9

There is going to be a famine starting about a year from now, with food prices shooting up about 7 months from now. About half of the world exists because of synthetic fertilizer, a ton of which comes from sulfur, and more importantly, urea. Urea is a byproduct of LNG production, which has been stopped/slowed and is not being transported as well in the Strait. All things are connected together, everything needs to work in tandem to run well. There are no urea stockpiles at, there are no fertilizer stockpiles like that. It’s March 15th. It’s almost time to plant. Even if we started back up tomorrow, and stared back up all LNG tomorrow, we cannot get urea and fertilizer moving for two weeks after the Strait opens. Right now about 1/3rd of the world’s fertilizer trade is being cut off. This is something to actually panic about.

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +14

The IAEA stated openly that Iran was NOT pursuing Atomic Weaponry .. This is no secret everyone knows its the truth but some assholes et al still use enriched Lucozade or whatever to hide behind. Trump knows the facts but i *Will* let you into a little secret .. Trumps lies.

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +6

Iran like other major Countries has Nuclear Scientists who need enriched uranium for research etc & not just researching the possibility of cold fusion. The World KNOWS Iran has no nuclear weaponry, in fact its illegal in Iranian law. Iran considers Nuclear Weaponry Immoral. Its a pity other Countries dont agree ..

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +4

p.s. I\`ve read the report & listened to them with their updates. They agree with what i\`ve said ..

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TheShishkabob Mar 15, 2026 +3

That was how this all worked before Trump fucked it all up. Once again we can circle back to how Americans elected a psychopathic pedophile and now everyone else needs to deal with it.

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Well maybe Iran should just re-enter negotiations for them to be attacked for the third time .. Anyway why the double standards, why dont the IAEA enter nuclear facilities in the US to find out if they have nuclear weapons or not & if they have then what? The truth of course will come out that theres no Iranian nuclear weaponry after the war but we already know the truth. The US is above the law & international courts ..

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campelm Mar 15, 2026 +27

It's almost like those that can destroy a thing, control a thing. If only someone had thought of that before 2026.

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zzzyyyxxxqqq Mar 15, 2026 +10

P. Atreides will think of it, but that is about 20K years into the future

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BadHombreSinNombre Mar 16, 2026 +7

It’s funny because that line was totally inspired by Herbert’s take on the oil markets.

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NATCA-please Mar 15, 2026 -1

You think they’d destroy their economy?

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Remarkable_Mud_8227 Mar 15, 2026 +9

Whats it matter if they are facing existential obliteration by an outside force? Who cares about money if there’s no one left to spend it.

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CallmeMefford Mar 15, 2026 +57

And America pissed them off. Now we have another generation of Iranians screaming for jihad. Great. Those poor bastards have been fighting each other since my ancestors lived in caves and forests. The best thing America could have done is stay the hell out of it, but NOOOOOOOO, Trump just had to f*** underage girls.

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Man_Without_Nipples Mar 15, 2026 +34

And then start things by literally bombing a school full of children killing 175....yeesh

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KennyShowers Mar 15, 2026 +18

Everybody’s been fighting eachother since our ancestors lived in caves. Like France and England and Spain and the Dutch fight eachother over nonsense for hundreds of years and people are like “oh well that just makes sense for civilized people,” but when it’s brown Muslims fighting eachother then it’s “oh well they love fighting eachother it’s their culture.”

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Asrahn Mar 15, 2026 +31

Europeans stops killing each other for 50 years and suddenly we're all on high horses pretending like we weren't recently the source of two of the most destructive wars in human history.

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succesful_deception Mar 15, 2026 +9

Only thing that stopped us from already being on our 4th or 5th World War by now is the threat of nuclear weapons.. anyone that thinks it's because we've gotten too civilized hasn't got a clue. But the war in Ukraine has reminded people of it by and large.

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brnccnt7 Mar 15, 2026 +4

Very true It’s not far fetched to think there wouldn’t have been another world war between the soviets and Americans starting it if not for nuclear weapons

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succesful_deception Mar 15, 2026 +5

WW3 was an absolute certainty during the Cold War without nukes. Even with them it got dangerously close. I'd argue it would have put WW2 to shame, even.

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hehateme42069 Mar 15, 2026 +11

It's tough to explain to some people, Europe has serious beef with Europe...

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 +2

So did Trump convert to Islam or something? .. (When its brown Muslims fighting each other) This Isnt brown Muslims fighting each other & come to think of it Netanyahu\`s a bit to white to be claiming his ancestors came from the middle east. People are being led up the garden path picking primroses ..

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KennyShowers Mar 15, 2026 +6

Yea also not exactly sure why the guy I replied to brought up the “fighting eachother forever” trope, obviously this isn’t that.

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putekeetekee Mar 16, 2026 +1

No one wants a jihad. People want to go to work, love their families and vacation annually in a calm and predictable fashion. Only people who make money from war want to have wars.

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Toadfinger Mar 15, 2026 +8

Turns out none of this was necessary. Trump was well informed of the risks. And made the decision to bet the ranch on a longshot anyway. > Caine said in several briefings that U.S. officials had long believed Iran would deploy mines, drones and missiles to close the world’s most vital shipping lane, according to people with knowledge of the discussions. > Trump acknowledged the risk, these people said, but moved forward with the most consequential foreign-policy decision of his two presidencies. He told his team that Tehran would likely capitulate before closing the strait—and even if Iran tried, the U.S. military could handle it. https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-oil-hormuz-blockade-trump-f96bdd53?st=eNdS3e&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink The truth is, he knows how much an energy crisis would aid his dear friend Vladimir Putin. These two would march into hell for one another. Any side effects of their actions means absolutely nothing to them.

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Who_Dafqu_Said_That Mar 15, 2026 +2

Well good thing the war has been over for three weeks, also it was never a war, and also somehow they started if 47 years ago...

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LowIllustrator2501 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Why would Iran do that? What's the benefit for them?

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Equivalent_Range6291 Mar 15, 2026 -14

Well the US is gonna run out of Chicken very soon as the eggs never got a chance to hatch. I expect America to turn into some type of Mad Max dystopian nightmare as news of this is allwed to slowly filter out .. I\`m not sure if the US Gov has contingency plans for this kind of event even though they new if Chickens arnt gonna get a chance to grow up, no Chicken drumsticks. Maybe the citizens will have to get used to Turkey all year around. At least the price of eggs isnt to bad, pity about the Chicken drumsticks .. I hear theres a War raging in the middle east but what about my Whopper?

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Hoodamush Mar 16, 2026 +1

So they have all the cards?

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johnn48 Mar 20, 2026 +1

We’re all asking what’s the end game, how do we end this war. That’s the problem America has no problem starting the war, it’s ending it that’s the problem. If Iran totally collapses, are we willing to occupy Kharg Island in perpetuity. If Somalian pirates threaten ships on their coast and Somalia is a failed state, what about the Strait of Hormuz? Iran was never a threat to the United States, we’ve more deaths by mass shootings every year than have been killed by Iran in 47 years. What about the IED’s? Those deaths are the result of our incursions into conflicts we’ve begun, that also cause deaths.

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pittyh Mar 16, 2026 +1

What a horseshit article, 20% of the oil goes through there, UAE also has pipes going across land. What happened to the other 80%? It just magically vanished?

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WanderingStranger7 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Lol that’s so funny how the tables have turned! I wonder if the rest of the American allies in ME will still be interested in the alliance after this show and propaganda happening at the moment

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SaveTheAles Mar 15, 2026

Trump is going to announce a special ops are going into Tehran to retrieve the physical key.

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PolloConTeriyaki Mar 15, 2026 -1

😂 they're gonna hold it over Trump until he begs for daddy.

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ScarabHeart Mar 16, 2026

Trump gave Iran red card to run rig…

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Important-Cupcake-29 Mar 15, 2026 -2

In other words, the U.S. of A. keeps completely pwning the mullahs because they are a bunch of LOSERS who can't even take a beating while Donald Trump remains UNDEFEATED for ever and has proven AGAIN that he is most certainly not a total clown.

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i-read-it-again Mar 15, 2026 +1

And he even has the clown shoes to prove it

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