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Additional_Gur5577 Mar 29, 2026 +533

If the Iranian regime survives, it can arguably make the claim to have won this war. It's pretty obvious that Trump and Netanyahu were hoping that their latest act of aggression would topple the Iranian regime, and would result in a clean transition to something more friendly to US and Israeli interests. That hasn't, and likely won't, happen. They suffered from the same delusion that the George W. Bush administration had about a post-Saddam Iraq. In fact, Trump has given the Islamic Republic a gift it never could have achieved on its own. In a country where resistance to foreign control is usually a source of legitimacy, Trump's war has handed the Islamic Republic an opportunity to demonstrate its staying power against foreign attack.

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Melodic_Assistant645 Mar 29, 2026 +176

They're not going to take down the regime without a massive invasion and we're going to need the draft to do that for a country of 90 million people as active duty, NG and the reserves does not have the manpower to maintain an occupation. sure many of those 90 million people may hate the regime but there's no guarantee they're going to welcome a bunch of American cowboys wrecking their streets and schools with open arms either.

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Orwells_Roses Mar 30, 2026 +65

He will use this as an excuse to deploy WMDs.

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Pockydo Mar 30, 2026 +63

The thing is any sort of "victory" in Iran basically is a loss at home Deploying wmds especially after screaming how we already won and they're begging for a deal will cost him

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Orwells_Roses Mar 30, 2026 +42

Cost him what, exactly? He’s term limited. Unless they completely ignore the law, he can’t run again. He doesn’t give a shit about anyone but himself, so I’m not sure how in his mind this would cost him anything.

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Pockydo Mar 30, 2026 +35

Support if he loses congress in November he becomes a powerless lame duck who can only scream into the void with EOs Could also mean the GOP might try and kick him to the curb since he is directly hurting them. But, in his mind, the worst thing will.be objective proof he is a failure and his legacy will be exactly that. Trump's a sad pathetic man he knows his time is almost up. He's desperate

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nosungdeeptongs Mar 30, 2026 +35

it's that last sentiment that has me worried he'll press that button if he thinks he can claim a victory.

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Wretched_Gourd Mar 30, 2026 +1

He is the exact person who would love to deploy nuclear weapons

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Objective-Amount1379 Mar 30, 2026 +1

This is a real concern and I don’t think everyone gets that yet. He doesn’t care about consequences. Nothing will impact him. He doesn’t care about the country, his popularity, anything. He just acts. I can’t say what I pray for because I’ll get banned but I’m sure the rational world all wants the same thing.

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holdmyrichard Mar 30, 2026 +1

Didn’t a senator propose an amendment to the 22nd today to allow a third time as long as the two initial terms are not consecutive?

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Objective-Amount1379 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Of all the c*** we have to worry about I’m not worried about that. He’s mostly incoherent now, I don’t think he’ll be able to form a sentence in a couple of years. If he makes it that long.

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Paradoxjjw Mar 30, 2026 +1

Especially since 2021-2024 proved that even the people screaming he's the biggest threat to American democracy ever won't put in the effort to make him pay for his actions. He clearly learnt from that that he won't have to face consequences

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Locke66 Mar 30, 2026 +1

I don't really see what using a nuke gains him which is hopefully the off ramp for that idea. There is no single target that will win him the war and if he does use one it will lead to world shaking consequences on himself and the US.

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bravosarah Mar 30, 2026 +1

He just wants to. Thats all. He knows he's a dying man, and he just wants to hit that button. He doesn't give a shit about what happens next.

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Mmphska Mar 30, 2026 +1

It would be the last, most final and irreversible nail in the coffin of US legitimacy within our lifetimes. Im not saying that he or his advisors -specifically- are enemy operatives that are intent on destroying the US.. but let's say if they were, what else would they even need to be doing differently to achieve that than what they have been doing?

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Objective-Amount1379 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Stop thinking rationally. Trump doesn’t strategize. Truly, he just reacts to things. He knows his time on the planet is coming to an end and he sure as hell doesn’t care about what happens to the rest of us.

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CollatedThoughts Mar 30, 2026 +1

If it causes the Iranian regime to capitulate, it gains him a military victory that he can hold up to the world as proof of his strength. It doesn't actually matter whether it's likely to work, or whether that's how people are likely to see it see it. It matters whether he thinks it will work and how he thinks people will see it. So hopefully the remaining adults in the systen can talk him down if the idea starts getting thrown aroumd too much. Or rather, the remaining business interests and corporate lobbyists who would actually care if the global economy gets tanked.

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shemanese Mar 30, 2026 +9

Guess why Iraq under Saddam wanted WMD's..

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Orwells_Roses Mar 30, 2026 +1

US foreign policy over the past two decades has made it crystal clear that unless a state has wmd, they have no guarantee of their sovereignty.

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rooftopgoblin Mar 30, 2026 +1

Libya gave up their WMD program, Saddam gave up their WMD program, Ukraine gave up their nukes. North Korea kept theirs. Every single country on the planet that doesn't want to be bullied by great powers is seeing this and learning that they need nukes. Nonproliferation and the post ww2 order has utterly failed

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azdebiker Mar 30, 2026 +1

It did not fail, it was intentionally destroyed. Big difference

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HadronCollusion Mar 30, 2026 +1

I’m convinced that this is where this whole thing is headed. Trump wants to be the first leader in 80 years to use a nuke. He thinks it will make people respect him.

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lo_fi_ho Mar 30, 2026 +1

WMD’s are still not enough to change the regime tbh. Only a full invasion will do it, costing hundreds of thousands of US military deaths. And millions of Iranian civilians.

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nolongerbanned99 Mar 30, 2026 +1

How ironic. Trump attempts to stop Iran from developing a nuke and then may use one to end the conflict

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VanceKelley Mar 30, 2026 +1

By "WMDs" do you mean nukes? Or do you mean chemical and biological weapons?

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Diginic Mar 30, 2026 +1

Exactly - bomb a couple more schools and any goodwill towards Americans intervention will evaporate real quick.

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virrk Mar 30, 2026 +12

They might hate the regime, but likely hate Israel and any foreign occupation more. Most countries would. Unless there is an active rebellion, in which case provide material support to said rebellion is FAR cheaper and safer.

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Jaded-Moose983 Mar 30, 2026 +1

>which case provide material support to said rebellion is FAR cheaper and safer. Afghanistan would disagree. The US starting in 1979, provided money and weapons to rebel fighters to rebuff the Russian influence. That all came back to bite us when those arms to were turned on our troops.

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CheesypoofExtreme Mar 30, 2026 +1

>That all came back to bite us when those arms to were turned on our troops. Our troops never needed to be there in the first place, so the comparison doesn't really make sense. We invaded them.

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virrk Mar 30, 2026 +1

Funding rebellions isn't perfect and in that case those rebels just hated the US less than the Russian and other precious aggressors. But they still hated the US a lot.

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nosungdeeptongs Mar 30, 2026

i don't know if they had faulty intel or what, but it looks like at the beginning that's almost how they expected this to work? now they're going to do a ground invasion and iranians will be more united under their iranian identity and need to drive out the aggressors.

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Locke66 Mar 30, 2026 +1

>i don't know if they had faulty intel or what Imo you can fairly easily tell that Trump doesn't really pay attention to his intelligence agencies or military planners by the way he talks about this war. He seems ignorant of the detail down to the point he will try to shift the blame for the decision at some point and think that's normal for the President of the US. There have literally been loads of wargames done that identified what the issues would be with a US-Iran conflict and it's pretty much played out exactly as expected. He likely thought the US would flatten the Iranian military from the air and then there would be a rebellion he could take the credit for because he saw the protests on Fox News. It's a crazy way to run a country. In many ways it seems reminiscent of how many Conservatives reacted to the Covid epidemic. They were somehow completely caught by surprise by the consequences of an event that's been planned for by scientific experts down to the point that large parts of what needed to be done were already adapted into a Hollywood film.

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virrk Mar 30, 2026 +1

They likely ignored the good Intel. Much like previous administration who started a war in Iraq.

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godzillabobber Mar 30, 2026 +1

Trump got off to a good start by murdering a bunch of school kids. Hearts and minds.

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AaronPK123 Mar 30, 2026 +1

I can think of one other way they could take it down.

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Werftflammen Mar 30, 2026 +1

I didn't realise shooting up school was such a cultural thing?

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mok000 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Also, it helps the regime since now they can label everybody opposing it as an "enemy sympathiser".

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iyamwhatiyam8000 Mar 30, 2026 +53

Any US invasion to secure the Straits of Hormuz will prompt Iran to destroy what is left of the Gulf state's oil infrastructure. Iran can sit tight and let Trump stew in his own juices. His moronic, arrogant attack on Iran was doomed from the beginning. Brazen assassination of the Iranian leadership and their families, in the middle of negotiations, is unprecedented. Opening this door has painted a target on the back of everyone close to him and his administration.

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djwurm Mar 30, 2026 +18

He also gave them the power to impose tolls for vessels and my sources are saying up to 2MM per vessel..

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d_pyro Mar 30, 2026 +1

They are basically charging $1/gallon.

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HonoredPeople Mar 29, 2026 +34

I think stupid might’ve thought that. Another Venezuela. However. Bibi doesnt care. Chaos in Iran is the target.

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Background_Cycle2985 Mar 30, 2026 +10

chaos? i think what iran has shown is anything but.

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JayTNP Mar 30, 2026 +1

I think they mean Bibi wants chaos to reign in Iran making it a failed state.

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hamfinity Mar 30, 2026 +1

It's certainly working in the US

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HonoredPeople Mar 30, 2026 +1

Netanyahu wants Iran as chaotic as humanly possible. A massive civil war that kills tens of millions of Iranians is about the closest idea he would demand. The more broken Iran is, the easy it is to deal with. The problem is thus. Iran’s hardliners aren’t going to be easily removed. Plus, the Iranian people have almost no resources to fight a war.

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CT_Phipps-Author Mar 30, 2026 +16

George W. Bush had to make the spectacularly stupid decision of firing a million Iraqi soldiers and giving them no reason not to join Al-Qaeda when they hadn't been members before. Thus creating ISIS.

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Locke66 Mar 30, 2026 +1

What was worse was they imprisoned a lot of Sadam's former military who had lost their position in society with the Islamic extremists. It connected and organised the two disaffected groups into a cohesive force.

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lagniappe- Mar 30, 2026 +11

I doubt Israel really thought air strikes would topple this regime. Their goal is to force the US into a ground war with Iran. So far they’re almost at that goal.

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BrobaFett26 Mar 30, 2026 +1

When was the last time we invaded a country and were greeted as liberators? We tried in Vietnam, it didnt work We tried in Afghanistan, it didnt work We tried in Iraq, it didnt work Now we’re poised to repeat the exact same mistake in Iran

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ProfessionalFan4044 Mar 30, 2026 +23

Even if the regime falls, they can claim to have won this war. American's are not clueing into what they just lost. This was the nail in the coffin of American global dominance. Allies want nothing to do with you, your military has been exposed as vulnerable and this conflict will be the end of the petro dollar as an absolute. This will go down in history as the "official" end of the US empire.

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KinkyPaddling Mar 30, 2026 +8

If they really wanted to topple it for the best interests of the Iranian people, they would have attacked in December when the Iranian people themselves had almost ousted the government. Instead they wanted for the popular uprising to be quashed, waited for tens of thousands of Iranians to be murdered, just so that there’d be less organized popular resistance to the US/Israeli puppet. And don’t anyone come at me with “they weren’t ready.” You really think Israeli intelligence, which knew the location of Iranian leadership so accurately that missiles could kill half the leadership in 3 days, dint know the protests were coming? You really think that US intelligence assets didn’t send any warnings up the chain? You really think that Trump and Bibi were caught by surprise when the world watched as internal tensions simmered and flared up intermittently since 2022?

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Auer-rod Mar 30, 2026 +1

And now Russia and China both are looking at Iran with dollar signs for eyes .... It wouldn't surprise me if China now gives Iran nuclear weapons as a way to guarantee permanent passage through the strait of hormuz

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Objective-Amount1379 Mar 30, 2026 +1

So Trump is an imbecile. Netanyahu isn’t. Israel knew Iran wouldn’t fall easily. There’s a reason every other administration has mostly left Iran alone, it’s a fight we don’t want that will come at a huge cost of American lives. Netanyahu just waited for a useful idiot to do his bidding. As the daughter of a vet who thankfully isn’t alive to see this I want to cry. I know Trump doesn’t give a f*** about Americans but his supporters who like to waive the flag and say they’re patriots should be up in arms about this because our military shouldn’t be sacrificed to this BS

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Zaggnut Mar 30, 2026 +1

Almost like Trump never gave a damn about US interests.

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raerae1991 Mar 30, 2026 +1

I think they were hoping for a civil war, and eventual (maybe) regime change

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FunkyFenom Mar 30, 2026 +1

Trump is fucked. Either he pulls out via a "deal", and Iran has already showed it wants to tax passage of the Strait. So that deal would likely benefit Iran more than anyone. Or he goes all in and sends military, in which case he loses the public opinion at home (which he doesn't seem to care about anyways). And potential escalates this into a global financial and military crisis. Given his ego, and Hegseth's even bigger one, I'd say we are heading for the latter scenario. Or he gaslights us into thinking we got a good deal, like he did with the tariffs lol. Either way Trump got played and whoever is running the show for him is an idiot.

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tankerdudeucsc Mar 30, 2026 +1

Iran won’t stop. They will force concessions for sure. The status quo won’t be enough as that won’t be a deterrent from Israel and the US from attacking again. There’s no such guarantee that’s possible, especially if it’s just their “words” from Netanyahu and Trump. Iran has a lot of cards if they aren’t overthrown and tbh, the US is currently in a really rough position.

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BezisThings Mar 30, 2026 +1

Even more funny, because USA is the reason why this regime even got into power a few decades ago.

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Gooner_Riley Mar 30, 2026 +1

Ngl this is why I avoid comment sections, too many wild takes out here

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dwors025 Mar 29, 2026 +194

Only Trump’s dumb ass could make the Iranian regime right about stuff. F*** him for that.

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Actual__Wizard Mar 29, 2026 +70

Yep, Trump and his gang of goons has broken everything. Now we're involved in a totally illegal war, and the country we attacked, has the "pretty reasonable request" of the US leaving and paying for the damage that they caused. But, there's a bunch of troops being sent in on a suicide mission instead. Then the US can't leave, because Iran and basically everybody else in the region will attack Israel. Do people understand how wrong all of this actually is?

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0masterdebater0 Mar 30, 2026 +43

Forever war is preferable to Trump facing the Epstein files or Bibi facing his corruption charges from before the oct 7th attacks If tens of thousands have to die, that's a sacrifice they are willing to make.

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pornalt4altporn Mar 30, 2026 +1

>Bibi facing his corruption charges from before the oct 7th attacks I think we have already seen a couple of times the Israelis escalating to prevent any kind of ceasefire with Iran. There won't be peace on an American timeline. Iran will demand tolls for the strait, Israel will try to prolong the conflict; they are the ones who have to get bored.

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Actual__Wizard Mar 30, 2026 +1

>Forever war is preferable to Trump facing the Epstein files or Bibi facing his corruption charges from before the oct 7th attacks Yeah I'm pretty sure "the rapture" is coming. I want to be clear that it's a real event and not some sci movie nonsense. I'm just facepalming so hard right now. There's something really, really wierd going on... Note the video is old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ I'm being serious, I think it's going to happen because people are "making it real." They believe in it so badly that they're "creating it."

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0masterdebater0 Mar 30, 2026 +1

My friend people have been doing this shit for more than 1000 years It was just as true last time as it is this time [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions\_and\_claims\_for\_the\_Second\_Coming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming)

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Actual__Wizard Mar 30, 2026 +1

Right, so orange man is the second coming of Jesus? Oh boy dude.

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paulnuman Mar 30, 2026 +1

His followers will wear the mark of the beast on their foreheads in red.

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LynnHaven Mar 30, 2026 +3

that's exactly what it is, a suicide mission

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Legend_of_Moblin Mar 30, 2026 +9

This planet is run by evil people filled with hate, malice, and supported by gullible morons. The people have the power. They're just too divided to do anything.

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manniesalado Mar 30, 2026 +100

Trump lost by day 3. The plan was, drop a few bombs and take out the leadership and the Iranian people would dance in the streets, renounce Islam and make Trump their leader. When that failed to happen the war was lost, because there never was a plan B.

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lettheseatakeme Mar 30, 2026 +1

*with tears in their eyes

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spezial_ed Mar 30, 2026 +1

Salam alaikum Mr. Trump!

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HomoProfessionalis Mar 30, 2026 +1

Its almost like Trump has gotten everything hes ever had by having it handed to him, resulting in an inability to deal with real world consequences.

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alpharaptor1 Mar 30, 2026 +1

It's almost as if it makes for terrible leadership.

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MayIServeYouWell Mar 30, 2026 +1

You're exactly right. Though, I suppose they eventually did come up with a plan B - bomb more. But it hasn't worked of course. I hope plan C is "walk away and pretend you won". Because anything else is just going to make things worse.

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manniesalado Mar 30, 2026 +1

Trump cannot walk away until he sorts out the Hormuz dilemma.

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NextWeather7866 Mar 30, 2026 +1

To be honest, Trump will take the deal, but Israel won't stop, which presents a challenge. US pulls out, Israel left with Iran to deal with. So Israel will continue, and Iran will continue. He's literally fucked it.

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Solitaire20X6 Mar 30, 2026 +1

See: Pigs, Bay of See: Pig, Trump, Donald John

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Nearly_Pointless Mar 30, 2026 +56

This action has fundamentally changed the Straight and who controls it, which inadvertently has changed the global oil market forever. This administration genuinely cannot see cause and effect. They are the dumbest of administrations.

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DDHLeigh Mar 30, 2026 +23

Without even a concept of a plan it was doomed before the start.

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Disastrous-Abroad428 Mar 30, 2026 +1

To be fair, Kegbreath had the concept of an idea of a plan. He wrote it on the back of a bar napkin. Unfortunately, when he sobered up he couldn't read what it said.

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neutrino71 Mar 29, 2026 +51

Watch the man-child start blubbering about how those Iranians cheated by using strategy and not immediately bowing before his orange eminence when the first bomb exploded

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RecentDecision2329 Mar 29, 2026 +19

Lol, he will definitely say they cheated

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Money_Percentage_630 Mar 30, 2026 +12

I like the strategic genius and situational awareness of the military. No one could have predicted Iran would do what everyone knew they would do.

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neutrino71 Mar 30, 2026 +1

When you've replaced competence with sycophancy at the top ranks of the military surely nothing could go wrong

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Virtual-Squirrel-725 Mar 29, 2026 +69

They won the war by surviving. Now they keep winning by demonstrating they can hold the world economy hostage. No amount of marines can solve that, but they can make it worse.

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Theferael_me Mar 30, 2026 +21

Trump and Netanyahu have only succeeded in uniting the world against them, and after all that squawking and posturing about the US having the 'best military ever'.

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KiwDaWabbit2 Mar 30, 2026 +1

The U.S.’ last competent large scale military operation was almost forty years ago.

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Tribe303 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Americans are good at many things, but foreign policy is not one of them. They are ATROCIOUS at it, likely because they don't know much about the world outside of their border.

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Bigbanghead Mar 30, 2026 +1

They have never been good at winning wars. They only win when they join in late.

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

when education is lacking

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ToraToraTora1942 Mar 29, 2026 +31

This is Isreal war. No reason for the US to be in it. Trump's incompetence is going to turn it into a quagmire. And when you have a drunk Pete Hedgehog in charge of the military, lots of mistakes will happen. This war of choice will cost Trump even more votes in this years election and the GOP to lose the presidency in 28. Maybe this country starts to recover from this level of stupidity in 2029.

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SemichiSam Mar 30, 2026 +25

The elections this November and in November of 2028 will be the Democrats' to lose, and I have every confidence in their ability to lose them both. Every Democrat over 70 in office now needs to find a young up-and-comer to run for their positions. I am 86 years old, and I retired from politics 16 years ago. These old fools think they're indispensable, but the graveyards are full of men who thought that.

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backfacecull Mar 30, 2026 +1

Fascists do not give up power because of elections. Any Americans who think they can vote their way out of a dictatorship are in for a surprise. The Republicans are willing to break the law and kill their opponents to retain power. The Democrats, and ordinary decent Americans, are not prepared for this fight.

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dek-tep Mar 30, 2026 +1

dictators don’t relinquish power

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Bigbanghead Mar 30, 2026 +1

Traditionally the US don't win wars that they are in from the start

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Ohuigin Mar 30, 2026 +11

He was a total and complete f****** loser before he started the Epstein Wars. Why would anyone expect this to be any different?

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dpdxguy Mar 30, 2026 +15

>Will Putin bail him out? The author of the article is either a comedian or brain dead. Putin has been **helping** the Iranians by supplying them with intelligence needed to fight a war against the US and Israel. There's no way he's bailing Trump out!

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dek-tep Mar 30, 2026 +1

exactly, trump has to help putin due to kompromat but putin has no reason to help trump

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Let’s put it this way: we know that T is P’s lapdog, so P is T’s boss; I assume that by supporting Iran, P is trying to remind T who’s really in charge, because even P has noticed that T is out of his mind.

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PermaDerpFace Mar 30, 2026 +1

Russia is the biggest w***** in this war. Sanctions are being dropped, oil prices are up, weapons are being diverted from Ukraine to the Middle East.

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cameltoad42O Mar 30, 2026 +1

Pretty sure he doesn’t mind if America loses as long as he gets something for himself

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

It can be assumed that T acts solely in his own interest

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mike-deadmonton Mar 30, 2026 +8

Best description I heard, "comic book stupid"

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PermaDerpFace Mar 30, 2026 +1

Cartoonishly evil and stupid

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Opposite_Draw_8867 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Draft dodgers won’t win… anything. And he’s distracting from his ugly sexual desires. Are we great yet?

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Loki-L Mar 30, 2026 +1

The problem is that everyone involved has different end goals. Iran's regime wants for Iran to survive as a sovereign country with the IRCG staying as the ruling class. Israel wants Iran to no longer be s threat and ideally fall into chaos with different ethnic groups dieing for independence. Iran's neighbours ideally want Iran to be stable and for groups like the Kurds and the Baloch people to not get any ideas. India wants the opposite of whatever Pakistan wants, so an unstable Iran and a Baloch uprising sounds great to them, but they also want to keep oil. China wants stability and natural resources. Saudi Arabia and the UAE want to not be blown up and for Iran to stop being a problem so they can go back to building up for a conflict against each other. Russia would hate to lose an ally like Iran but is really happy about high oil prices, sanction relief and weapons being diverted from Ukraine. North Korea wants people to pay attention to them. Most of the rest of the world want lower oil prices and to not get dragged into this. What does the US and Trump want out of this? You can't declare victory without first defining what you wanted to achieve.

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PermaDerpFace Mar 30, 2026 +1

He said it himself, it's a distraction

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WYLFriesWthat Mar 30, 2026 +12

And in go the troops. The boomers had already stolen everything else from the young to feed their endless greed; it tracks that they would come for their lives too.

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OkMind2351 Mar 30, 2026 -12

what is this shit?

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snokegsxr Mar 30, 2026 +8

any boots on the ground will force huge mission creep. it's a trap for decades. Iraq was easy, flat desert, this is more like vietnam, but imagine was a mountain fortress... this war will become for the states what Egypt and the Suez crisis was to the brits, the downfall of its hegemony in the region

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Cute-Ad2879 Mar 30, 2026 +4

Suez toppled the British because the US held enough British debt that calling it in would have been a catastrophe. The US is in way more debt than the UK was, but at this point who will call in the debt, and will Trump even care if the economy collapses?

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snokegsxr Mar 30, 2026 +1

I’d be more concerned about a collapse of trust from Arab states in the US security umbrella in the region... Dubai currently getting shot although being big ally to the US or qatar saying it won’t back US strikes and instead pushing for diplomacy with Iran, or unrest in Bahrain, which gets especially volatile given the shia majority vs. sunni Khalif. That kind of tension could flip security perceptions 180° pretty quickly. But yeah economically there’s also more than enough downside... when oil is involved, everything follows, everything needs oil. Pair that inflation with domestic pressure and some bad timing (midterms, protests, ai bubble or whatever idk)... not hard to see multiple paths into disaster, less out. I am very worried about this conflict

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

The question is really more about who, not whether.

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GloriousDawn Mar 30, 2026 +1

That ship has sailed already. The US demonstrated it couldn't protect the GCC countries from Iran despite all their military bases and personnel in the Middle East. Fantastic return on investment for Qatar especially: gift a $400M plane in exchange for "protection", get 1/6 of your gas capacity wiped out, costing billions of infrastructure damage and tens of billions in lost revenue. The US is rapidly alienating all their former allies, and after the stupid tariff war, this real unprovoked hot war is showing they can't be trusted anymore. The worldwide economic collapse that's ahead if this war escalates or lingers would cement that betrayal for decades - whoever sits in the Oval Office.

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Big-Sea7726 Mar 30, 2026 +3

Yes he is a dope

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

What a brilliant insight! And so explosive!

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aule_maiar Mar 29, 2026 +8

Not sure its decided yet. USA killed top leader of Iran. USA must accept Iran's demands if they want peaceful resolution. Expecting Iran to end war on USA terms when USA killed their Supreme leader is very unlikely.

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ProfessionalFan4044 Mar 30, 2026 +8

You're thinking far too small for what defeat for the US means here. In reality, t's similar to defeat for Russia in Ukraine. Russia wanted to take full control of Ukraine and collapse the government into a vassal state. 4 years later thye've lost a million men and are waging an unwinnable war of attrition, despite controlling 20% of Ukraine territory. They lost most of their military force projection & might, they're respect & their global footprint. For the USA, this all but guarantees that their global hegemony is done. US bases abandoned & strikes across the middle east are the signal to the globe that their protection and strength means nothing. It's likely going to be the end of the petro dollar (US reserve currency) in it's absolute form and a final nail in the coffin for post WW2 alliances. It doesn't matter what the battlefield success looks like in Iran anymore. Nothing is changing the strategic defeat that already occurred. Its basically Vietnam repeat, except that the US is further decayed and can't recover.

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squidpodiatrist Mar 30, 2026 +1

I’m scared because what happens when you back this kind of man into a corner? He’s surrounded himself with drunk, high, and stupid yes men.

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TinyConfection7049 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Iranians will never ever be pro-US. Even the most liberal regime will never be a US ally. The Iranian people are not going to forget the sanctions and this war and the damage it has caused to civilian lives.

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HelloYesItsMeYourMom Mar 30, 2026 +1

Japan

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Wildpony03 Mar 30, 2026 +4

Trump doesn't have the support of those who matter which is those outside of his world. He also doesn't have the time or manpower to pull this off.

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DeliriousEdd Mar 30, 2026 +6

And he doesn’t have the cards.

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Technical_Living5104 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Here’s the problem. Presidents usually don’t pick a fight with an adversary that kinda has an unspoken immunity. It’s not a good idea to f*** with them. Sure, you know they are someone you keep an eye on but f****** with them would create a shitshow of the likes we have never seen. A nuclear deal was already in place. F*** Face cancelled that deal. It was already a deal. They’re not begging for a deal, like he says. They’re begging for soldiers to invade their country. Honestly, it’s impressive how they troll this idiot. Just remember, one day you’ll wake up and he will be gone.

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godzillabobber Mar 30, 2026 +1

Its not a war. Its not a police action. Maybe its a bunch of peaceful tourists like Jan 6.

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DrothReloaded Mar 30, 2026 +1

He is still going to send Marines to die just to keep the headlines away from Epstein.

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Boofcomics Mar 30, 2026 +1

This article is a tough read. The writing sounds like an aging millennial hipster who desperately wants to stay cool.

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Big-Sea7726 Mar 30, 2026 +2

He doesn’t like losing so he’ll probably do something horrible to make think he is winning!

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tducote13 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Totally agree!

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tidal_flux Mar 30, 2026 +1

The loser decides when a war is over.

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MithrandirMaia Mar 30, 2026 +1

At the End if Iran Uses Straight of Hormuz like a Troll under a bridge then Iran won

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conundri Mar 30, 2026 +1

He can still lose it better! Wait for him to escalate and more of the oil infrastructure will soon be destroyed!

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Wonderful-Pause1048 Mar 30, 2026 +1

Seen in this light, it accelerates the shift away from fossil fuels toward the technological use of renewable energy,

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thandrend Mar 30, 2026 +1

When presidents do what they say they won't... It's an interesting thing to look back at history and see what kind of ramifications it has.

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Accomplished_Hair488 Mar 30, 2026 +1

It is true, give him a first place in war prize and look at the time…

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BoredCapy Mar 30, 2026 +1

Iran gas been preparing for this war since 1979. The majority of the populace might be against the regime, but I strongly doubt they'll like American intervention when it looks like bombing schools and when they saw what happened to Iraq and Afghanistan. The more America intervenes, the further away from a successful regime change it gets. The more embargoes and airstrikes it does, more of the population starts to see the them as enemies. If the US just left Iran to its own devices, their regime would have fallen already.

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HormuzVengeance Mar 30, 2026 +1

This piece of media is literally islamist terrorist propaganda.

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TriggerHappyPermaBan Mar 30, 2026 +1

In the middle east, there is no a "losing in war" narrative. All wars against Israel which are globally considered won by Israel are reframed in Arab nations as subduing Israel. Even gazans today claim a win over Israel. Iranian regime as well are incapable of admitting that the war hurts them badly, so they instead boast a winning narrative. You may criticize this war, it definitely failed in many aspects, but you don't have to echo the terror regime's warped description of events.

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IXPhantomSeekerXI Mar 30, 2026 +1

This isn’t gonna age well I’ll come back to laugh at all the clowns going to downvote me

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TheCelestialDawn Mar 30, 2026 -8

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Iran is right: Trump has already lost this war

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