Source: trust me bro
To ensure the market opens green again
Nothing has changed and now there’s rumours they might close the Red Sea
Markets these days are just run by algos with no fundamentals
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NotTheBusDriver5 days ago
+88
No no no. I 100% believe that Iran is in talks with the USA. Even though the USA attacked Iran the last time they were having talks.
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tackle_bones5 days ago
+24
Didn’t you hear, dude? Trump gave the negotiators immunity from death.
Lmao, I would post /s, but the dipshit actually said that.
24
InterstellarReddit5 days ago
+32
I beleive they’re even having dinner right now, McDonald at the white house
/s
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goingfullretard-orig4 days ago
+3
McTreason with a side of Freedom Fries
3
hueythecat5 days ago
+6
And murdered the minister of foreign affairs wife.
6
[deleted]4 days ago
+1
[deleted]
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NotTheBusDriver4 days ago
+1
Netanyahu proving once more his willingness to bomb his way to peace.
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hiricinee5 days ago
-28
Well if you want to negotiate from strength you dont stop bombing them until they make concessions.
I dont think the regime can be negotiated with though, they need the gravy train from exploiting their people they arent going to give up power.
-28
Fluffy_Marionberry545 days ago
+32
I honestly can’t tell which side you’re talking about.
32
Calm-Zombie26785 days ago
+15
I was about to comment the same lol
15
Settra_Rulez5 days ago
-14
Multiple countries including Pakistan and Turkey say they’ve been mediating talks for a week or two at this point.
-14
Jurodan5 days ago
+23
Not true, Iran has damaged more Kuwaiti oil production and desalination plants.
23
RobaDubDub4 days ago
Hopefully, they won't be able to do that anymore.After tuesday , that would be the best
0
keepitfriend4 days ago
+3
It's ok, we're almost at the end of the market stability, whats being traded on paper is still based on theoretical shortages and mostly just in Oil/Gas. The final shipments of Oil, Gas, Fertiliser, Urea, Helium have pretty much all reached their destinations now and the real supply shock is going to hit the markets when people try to place orders for stock that simply isn't available any more.
Trumps games with the markets will come to a pretty swift end when the shipments just don't show up any more
3
rabidstoat5 days ago
+133
Witcoff at least has a title. In all these articles it's "and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner." Like that's his job title in this administration. Son-in-law.
Might as well be saying "and random bowling alley owner, Bob Schlepp" or something.
133
Shopworn_Soul5 days ago
+61
>Witcoff at least has a title.
Witkoff has absolutely no more qualification than Kushner.
Both of these dudes are useless tools, so far out of their depth that they don't even know where the deep end began.
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Ok_Complex88735 days ago
+22
he is going into history as one of the most absurd, comical, unqualified, incompetent emissaries. In the hindsight this Krugger Dunning specimen will be studied.
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Grow_away_4205 days ago
+3
At the rate we're going history books are gonna be written by AI and they'll just congregate news on the internet and spew out whatever it thinks actually happened.
3
Fusilero5 days ago
+1
Not if all the data centres get bombed.
1
Bored20015 days ago
+6
Yea but he's an actual employee of the government. Jared is just there for some reason.
6
SylvesterStapwn5 days ago
+8
Represent Saudi interests
8
sonofcrack5 days ago
+31
You can say the same thing about Witcoff. He was given a title because he’s Trumps friend.
Kushner said he wouldn’t even be involved in the administration before the election but I’m sure he and Witcoff saw they could help expand Israel and here we are. They are occupying Lebanon
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DimensioT5 days ago
+1
I would trust random bowling alley owner, Bob Schlepp, over Jared Kushner.
1
whatproblems5 days ago
+20
didn’t iran say they weren’t negotiating with these schmucks
20
Relative_Baseball1805 days ago
+5
They all say that, but clearly neither side wants to legitimately continue this. They are both hurting.
5
Robj25 days ago
+3
Welp, judging by the Dementia in Chief, "negotiating" is carrying a lot of water here. And Iran has Don by the Straits.
3
Downtown-Sell59495 days ago
+1
Oh Iran is negotiating. They currently have all the cards. America does not.
1
Robj25 days ago
+7
You mean the guy who was "negotiating" along with Jared while we bombed Iran?
I'm sure Iran really wants to "negotiate" with him.
7
beekeeper19815 days ago
+5
Also the guy who's in charge of negotiating an end to Russia's war. Who happens to always kiss Putin's ass.
5
thhvancouver5 days ago
+4
Seriously... couldn't Trump have at least found some competent yes-men?
4
Robj25 days ago
+9
Competence and Trump appointees do not co-exist. The gals get cashiered a lot quicker than the Kegdrinkers though.
9
AntitheistArchangel5 days ago
+9
What people don’t understand is that Trump chose Witkoff *because* Witkoff doesn’t know shit about diplomacy.
Trump views traditional diplomacy as ineffective, too rules-based, and overly bureaucratic. In his view, the only two things that matter in the world are money and power. Thus, Trump thinks diplomacy is like business dealings, which is why he thinks Witkoff and Kushner are the best men for the job.
9
standardtissue4 days ago
+1
Haven't we had enough of real-estate guys who get into politics ?
1
YouClaimToBeAPlayer5 days ago
+733
I can not believe they've done the "We're really close to a deal" thing to manipulate the markets and it's worked *every single time*. Incredible.
733
008Zulu5 days ago
+180
The markets are the easiest thing to play when you're in power.
180
immersive-matthew5 days ago
+34
Elon Musk agrees.
34
lastpassonright5 days ago
+57
The world doesn't need energy or fertilizer, just pure vibes baby.
57
TrinDiesel1235 days ago
+35
A lot of it is algorithms that are set react to key words.
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__MeatyClackers__5 days ago
+4
Shirley this isn’t true.
4
TrinDiesel1235 days ago
+24
It’s true and don’t call me Shirley.
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TheWolrdsonFire5 days ago
+1
Shirley you're lying right?
1
TrinDiesel1235 days ago
+4
No. You really think it’s a bunch of guys waiting at their desks with their phones waiting to buy and sell? It’s all high speed algorithms that are programmed by large firms to get an advantage.
Some of the insiders who know how Trump is manipulating the markets get in first but the rest is programmed to get the jump on everyone else. Thats why the the little guys are always one step behind.
4
Brambletail4 days ago
+1
That's part of the answer but not all of it. 90% of volume in trades is by HFT and that does move markets somewhat, but in dollars, it's a much lower amount. HFTs trade the same smallish trades thousands of times a day. You still have larger institutional market makers and traditional firms and funds trading by hand, and that is pretty common. However those guys are not trading in the day to day regime, more like month to month and year to year. They move markets a lot more though when they buy or sell, because they are typically unrolling or gobbling up billions (especially the firms that manage ETFs like BR, Vanguard, etc ).
Important to remember outside of hedgies and HFTs, most of the financial world is not trading to make money. They trade to buy or sell shares to bundle into products like ETFs and Mutual Funds to sell to retirement accounts and WSB degens. So they make money on the tiny fee they charge and are somewhat disconnected from the price they pay, because it is nearly entirely pass through.
1
TrinDiesel1234 days ago
+1
Exactly. Well put. I was just talking about the big sudden swings that happen when big news hits.
1
Seaweedminer5 days ago
+11
Or maybe, just maybe, the colluders were ready with cash in hand to manipulate the market in overnight trading, to make it look like people believed and dupe other investors to get in with an early morning sell off following the jump.
Maybe.
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civilPDX5 days ago
+4
Well the “markets” are self serving tools for the idiot rich at this point, so.
4
SkinEmbarrassed71295 days ago
+8
"last ditch Push " doesnt mean they're really close to a deal
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Obvious_Toe_30065 days ago
+4
Political equivalent to the NFL "tush push." ?
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floridabeach95 days ago
+3
yea its 4th and 1 and the administration lines up in the tush push telling the world “we’re doing it!” and they false start and go for it on 4th and 6 and false start again, 4th and 11, false start, 4th and 16, they punt to the next administration.
3
diligent_twerker5 days ago
+3
Futures are down as of 10:38 CST.
3
OkFix40745 days ago
+3
Taco Tuesday is just around the corner
3
cuntysometimes5 days ago
+1
Continues to work… they need to change the algo parameters
1
git0ffmylawnm85 days ago
+1
If you've seen the sorry state of American education, it makes a lot of sense
1
Inthehead355 days ago
+1
It sucks, but Trump is the president, no matter how many lies, the markets have to believe
1
conanap5 days ago
+1
Tbf it gave me a good point to exit the market as it nearly completely recovered (this is for my retirement savings, US equivalent of 401k); now I can wait for the dip to buy again.
1
Mans_Fury4 days ago
+1
The markets are fake
1
Jimmaplesong2 days ago
+1
People buy because they think other people believe Trump. It could be nobody trusts him, but dance the dance because it’s familiar at this point.
1
RightHamster5 days ago
Just shows you that the US don't want to keep this up
0
Other_Information_165 days ago
+41
So how many times now we are close to a deal? Meanwhile the Iranian has explicitly said they will not negotiate with Witkoff.
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SporksInjected5 days ago
+7
They also said no negotiations were happening
7
ResponsibleDesk25165 days ago
+161
Right before the markets open surprise! We might have a deal, for this time. Totally.
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HiIary4Prison5 days ago
+19
Imagine wanting a ceasefire with a country like Iran when you’re the United States with the 3 most strongest and technologically advanced militaries in the world.
What a colossal f*** up. It’s like the USA is running around like a chicken with its head cut off. What an embarrassment. And I was led to believe no administration could get in the way of the US military industrial complex. Boy, was I wrong.
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MommersHeart5 days ago
+26
LOL “according to four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.”
Good grief.
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nosfer824 days ago
+6
The people from pakistan who americans talks to , and will pass the "agreement" to the Iranian side to reject. they are the "Iranian mediators"
6
selfiecat5 days ago
+77
Market manipulation
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dontlooktothesky5 days ago
+76
isn't this blatant market manipulation against the law in some way? shouldn't our Congress and/or Supreme Court be looking into this?
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it_diedinhermouth5 days ago
+36
The one who makes the law can’t by definition break the law. So said the scrotus
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nickfavee5 days ago
+12
Gave me quite the chuckle there
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PoopyInThePeePeeHole4 days ago
+1
Ahahahahahaaa....
1
ux3l4 days ago
+1
I guess that's the SEC's job, which is probably led by a Trump loyalist.
1
Scholastic_nobody5 days ago
+47
These guys push the same garbage every Sunday to help manipulate the markets for the Trump admin.
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Horror-Layer-81785 days ago
+40
Does Axios know they are being manipulated to keep the market from crashing and oil from shooting up? What ever Trump peon made up this story is probably mad at Trump's Tweet saying they are going to blow up Iranian bridges
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Halbaras5 days ago
+5
Axios has been one of the biggest beneficiaries of favourable 'leaks' by the Trump administration whenever they want to gauge public opinion on an issue, control a narrative or make someone look like the 'adult in the room'.
They know exactly what they're doing.
5
UbiSububi85 days ago
+176
Sources are US and Israeli, so complete bullshit.
Our emperor has no clothes.
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OmNomSandvich5 days ago
+7
> The sources said the chances for reaching a partial deal over the next 48 hours are slim.
Axios is being pretty upfront about this
7
Robj25 days ago
+2
Who reads the article?
Axios gets paid by the headline.
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UbiSububi85 days ago
+2
It’s behind a paywall.
2
banditta825 days ago
+14
Depends highly on what the regional source is that is also claiming it.
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RightHamster5 days ago
+7
Oh right, let's wait for the reliable sources from Iran
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Nervous_Chemical75665 days ago
+9
Apparently the sources are “four U.S., Israeli and regional sources with knowledge of the talks.” So everybody is claiming knowledge, nobody said they had to be reliable lol.
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MrF_lawblog5 days ago
+1
Why can't they say who they are talking to in Iran? Like who has proven they are running the country
1
keithabarta5 days ago
+10
State of the world rn lk
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vdek5 days ago
-14
Only idiots on listnook believe the nonsense from the IRGC. Just because you're getting upvoted for it here doesn't mean the majority of the world believes it.
-14
sonkist325 days ago
+44
This Axios place seems to always release the news that a deal is close…stop reading their fake news.
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Zulmoka5315 days ago
+14
F****** market manipulation Monday already eh?
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blow_slogan5 days ago
+10
More market manipulation from Trump for Monday morning. It’s been back and forth like this since it began and the markets still fall for it.
10
DrPsyz95 days ago
+5
Who are "Iran mediators"? Hint: they aren't Iranians.
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Electrical-Staff7355 days ago
+6
Pretty sad I'm trusting Iran more than whatever TF this administration says. How fubar are we as a nation for that to happen.
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izcenine5 days ago
+6
Iranians have us on our heels. Why would they ask for a caesefire. If we start bombing civilian infrastructure, that aint winning the hearts and minds.
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Edward-Gentry5 days ago
+3
Weird way to spell “US” mediators.
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pirategirljess5 days ago
+3
$50 bucks says daddy trump will let it go for another 45 days.
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billleachmsw5 days ago
+3
Unreliable sources no doubt.
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Mindless-Peak-16874 days ago
+3
what a bullshit american exceptionalistic title. USA do not have the cards.
3
absat414 days ago
+3
Axios doing the heavy lifting for Trump and the Stock Market. What is this AI slop?
3
TheGodPePe5 days ago
+2
Right before Asian markets opened. Shameless
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BodybuilderUpbeat7865 days ago
+2
What happens after the 45 days?
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TK421missingfrompost5 days ago
+2
Good chance to get your puts in
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ElephantOk47154 days ago
+2
Only the most trust worthy journalists are former Israeli intelligence officers. /s
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ux3l4 days ago
+2
Who had this brilliant idea to bomb civilian infrastructure? Maybe it doesn't reduce the upset of Iranian civilians against their government, but it definitely doesn't increase it. And it increases the hate against USA and Israel.
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Pentaminymum5 days ago
+4
I dont understand tho, why ceasefire? Why not call it off entirely? Ceasefire meaning they are gonna come back to this down the road? If so whats the ceasefire purpose?
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D1rtyH1ppy5 days ago
+7
It's a middle ground for everyone. It's showing that neither side is backing down and that each party can begin talking. I think the real possibility of Iran not having clean water or electricity for months is a good point to call a timeout for everyone before this thing gets worse
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beekeeper19815 days ago
+1
I think it's more about the American side being desperate for a ceasefire so they don't have to TACO on the war crime threats again.
1
doolpicate5 days ago
+4
Witkoff, Kushner, Trump.
Never trust these aholes.
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NomadFH5 days ago
+6
When was the last time Israel obeyed a ceasefire
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Corny_Snickers5 days ago
+3
Id be surprised if Iran wants a ceasefire after how this week has gone, if civilian infrastructure is bombed like water or power plants maybe then, but at the moment they still hold the cards and the trump admin is losing their mind being shown to have 0 control or power without having to break international laws or commit war crimes.
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dafunkmunk5 days ago
+2
Why is the US pushing for a ceasefire with a country they aren't at war with, but the US has also completely destroyed all their military equipment and ability to launch missiles, and has already won the not war against them and can leave at any time because their objectives are completed? Surely there is no point to a ceasefire with a country that has no ability to fire anything
2
yo-chill5 days ago
+3
Until Israel kills the negotiators… again
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Snoo235335 days ago
+4
Idk why thisbis downvoted, it is exactly what happened. Israel wants the US to remain in this mess to help kill their enemies.
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r3dditr0x5 days ago
+1
>Israel kills the negotiators
I think they call that a "Kushner."
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fxbob5 days ago
+3
Isn't that what you call a silent shart?
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YourSpanishMomTaco5 days ago
+2
I wanna believe that it's the Iranian government wanting the ceasefire but the IRGC is wanting the opposite. Of course it could all be bullshit propaganda.
2
zimon855 days ago
+1
Imagine you are someone in the State Department. You have a PhD in international relations and you have spent at least a decade specializing in the geopolitics of the Middle East, working for multiple administrations and handling diplomatic talks at high level like the ones that yielded Obama's nuclear deal.
And now you watch in horror as the world crumbles and talks are done by the president's son-in-law and the president's golfing buddy while your boss, former senator Marco Rubio, strolls around in comically big shoes
1
ElectricalGene61465 days ago
IRGC doesn’t want a deal and Trump is too much of a p**** to send in Troops for a longer term incursion.
0
ExCap25 days ago
-1
I would actually agree with you that Trump has been a p****. He should've taken out the Oil and Electric from the beginning. They should have known Iran would never make a deal on anything. They've been funding Hezbollah/Hamas/Houthi for years, if not decades. And they'll continue to do so.
Just taking out military infrastructure isn't going to do anything. But that's my hot take. Iran is huge so they were never going to get 100% of all the launchers/military equipment/other stuff that's hidden underground/caves/etc. We don't need boots on the ground. No power, no oil would be tough for Iran to swallow.
-1
6597james5 days ago
+3
So you’re saying they should have carried out some w ar crimes already. Certainly a hot take
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AbbreviationsKnown245 days ago
+6
Sure, take out the electricity, who cares how many civilians die right? Not like the Iranian population is human anyway.
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6597james5 days ago
+1
They should have done some war crimes already. Certainly a hot take
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_grey_wall4 days ago
+1
Is it market manipulation Monday already?
1
genuineorc4 days ago
+1
Need to arrest and charge the fraudsters making up these stories.
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nosfer824 days ago
+1
The people from pakistan who americans talks to , and will pass the "agreement" to the Iranian side to reject. they are the "Iranian mediators"
1
LateralEntry4 days ago
+1
Another article here says the Iranians just refused a temporary ceasefire
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luckylukiec4 days ago
+1
Trump is chicken shit, no one believes you so say all the crazy shit you want then backtrack like a p****.
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SenseiKingPong4 days ago
+1
Breaking news:
Iranian diplomats are currently at the White House discussing ways to halt the war. Meetings are taking place underground, beneath the new ballroom.
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Electrifying20175 days ago
+1
I’m pretty sure they’ll still get bombed regardless, going by the other ceasefire agreements.
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edgeplayer5 days ago
Well, that's an obvious lie. Iran knows America has no intention of honouring any agreement. So who is coming out with this incredible rubbish masquerading as news ?
0
dumboldnoob5 days ago
+1
the americans just love putting out bs stories huh?
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motherseffinjones5 days ago
+1
Markets gonna pop 10% and Iran is gonna have the houthis close the Red Sea after Trump his their bridges and energy plants lol
1
Careful-Trade-96665 days ago
+1
“According to US, Israeli and regions sources”. So no direct confirmation from Iran that Iran is pushing for a ceasefire. Got it.
1
Wonderful-Air70485 days ago
Trump can now only bomb civilian facilities and commit war crimes. The Iranian bunkers are too deep for him to destroy the stored missiles, and he can only attack the entrances, which the Iranians reopen within days or weeks.
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