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Sad_Ghost_Noises 10 hr ago +173

So hold on… Is this an Iranian blockade, or an American blockade? Do they take alternate days? What the actual f*** is going on here?

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balooaroos 10 hr ago +126

Iranian blockade on anyone Iran doesn't like + American counter-blockade on anyone Iran *does* like = One complete blockade

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redyellowblue5031 9 hr ago +21

Part of this complete breakfast.

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musci12234 8 hr ago +1

Breakfast of recession.

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ShrimpToothpaste 9 hr ago +8

Team work!

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Clane_21 9 hr ago +1

maybe this will turn out fine coz two negatives make a positive right? right?

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grey_hat_uk 8 hr ago +1

Makes the nightmare demons work!

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Klutzy_Anybody_1487 9 hr ago +7

I mean did Iran really think they gonna close the strait for everyone but their ships will be let through?

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barbariccomplexity 9 hr ago +21

I mean, that is how it worked for the first few weeks.

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Romanizer 9 hr ago +1

Perfect symbiotic relationship.

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naliron 10 hr ago +10

Poor thing is gonna need a custody arrangement.

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JelliedHam 8 hr ago +1

Primarily an Iranian blockade, but America gets every other weekend and 6 weeks in the summer.

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Elses_pels 9 hr ago +2

Yes. They take alternate days to save fuel.

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kopisiutaidaily 9 hr ago +1

They are taking turns, sat sun it’s Iran on duty, mon till weds are the Americans, Thursday and Friday depends on what both leaders are negotiating. Friday evening is open for all till Saturday

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ThisIsGr8ThisIsGr8 8 hr ago +1

Epstein distraction

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chilladipa 8 hr ago +1

Schrödingers blockade. Both Iran and the USA blockades

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takesthebiscuit 9 hr ago

It’s really very simple, Iran removed the block for non USA affiliated vessels (subject to toll) USA removed the block for non Iran vessels Iran said we will lift the block if Iran vessels can pass USA said the similar

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Sad_Ghost_Noises 9 hr ago +1

Yeah that doesnt match with the headline. Still confused.

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AvailableSubstance53 10 hr ago -21

The blockade by the USA is an act of war. Iranians are trying to protect ships in their waters from getting involved in their defense against this act of war.

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isaacfisher 10 hr ago +8

Wait what? Blockade is blockade, the straights are not Iranian waters

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Scriefers 9 hr ago +2

You’re right! The established shipping channel is not in Iranian territorial waters, it is wholly within Omani territorial waters and has always been free (as it has to be) to travel through. But since the war Iran essentially seized control of the strait via threats, and is now diverting any traffic through their territorial waters. They are forcing ships under threats of attack to sail closely between two of their islands off Iran’s coast so that they can positively ID vessels, somehow arrange toll payment, and/or hold them under seizure.

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Idiot_Savant_13 10 hr ago -1

They are if Iran can maintain a steady threat to anyone attempting to navigate it without permission. The U.S. has blown up boats in international waters - while also targeting survivors illegally and bragging about it. That cost the U.S. the moral authority to question anyone else doing anything like it.

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isaacfisher 10 hr ago +6

Putting US morality aside for a moment, what does it means “they are”? If I declare that I’m gonna blow up anyone that dare to cross the road the road become mine?

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Sad_Ghost_Noises 9 hr ago +1

Pretty much. If noone can stop you. Its the definition of «might is right».

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Scriefers 9 hr ago +1

Yeah dude. That’s how life has always worked since the primordial soup. Violence is the ultimate power.

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ICEpear8472 8 hr ago +1

In a rule based society it does not. But international rules and laws get weakened everytime they get broken without any repercussions. The US did attack and sink various civilian ships in international waters killing their crew. That had zero repercussions. Now Iran is attacking other civilian ships in national waters which are protected by the UNCLOS right of innocent passage. We have entered an era where international law gets ignored by everyone who feels powerful enough to do so. And some of those are not only ignoring it but literally bragging about that fact. Why do you think should anyone still follow such laws when they become inconvenient?

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Idiot_Savant_13 9 hr ago

Setting aside U.S. morality, or all morality? Just want to be clear if you're trying to set aside ethics, or stop comparing what Iran does to what the U.S. does because... that doesn't look good for the U.S.? \[If I declare that I’m gonna blow up anyone that dare to cross the road the road become mine?\] No. If you can & do start blowing up anyone that dares to cross the road, however, people are not going to cross that road. If no one can stop you from blowing up those who cross the road, then regardless of what other people wrote down in other places, you're clearly in control of the road. The morality that was set aside is what determines whether this is "okay" or not - and since the U.S. has been completely ignoring the international laws itself, no one is going to listen if the U.S. complains that Iran is violating international law. Any questions?

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ICEpear8472 9 hr ago +1

The strait is Iranian water. At least half of it the other half is omanian waters. The passage through the strait was open because of the right of innocent passage defined in UNCLOS but that does not mean it suddenly becomes international waters it just means one is free to use it. But significantly Iran did never ratify that part of UNCLOS so it is questionable if they are actually subject to that part of international law. Considering that Oman hosts US bases it effectively is part of undeclared US war against Iran. So even if Iran attacks ships in the Omanian side it would just be attacking civilian targets in a warzone. Which is of course bad but by far not the only or first attack against civilian targets in this war. Blockading a nation in international waters on the other hand is without a question an act of war.

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rickymist1 10 hr ago +31

I skip two days of this war and now i am confused

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redyellowblue5031 9 hr ago +10

Strait open Friday in time for big market rally. Iran clarified stance post trading hours to say no actually it’s closed. Surprisingly, no civilization ending tweets yet from Trump. He’s been more focused on “rigged election” stuff Saturday. Regardless, that’s what stands out to me, Trump has largely kept his mouth shut. Must be hard on him. Edit: Could go either direction with that silence. Maybe negotiations, or maybe he’s fuming so hard he’s channeling it into a massive escalation effort.

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rickymist1 9 hr ago +1

It’s bizarre how tweets are controlling stock market movement of US and entire world for some time now.

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redyellowblue5031 9 hr ago +1

Yeah he’s been [blatant about it](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/trump-told-investors-to-buy-on-social-media-hours-before-his-tariff-pause-rose-stocks-raising-questions-about-manipulation), and yet no consequences.

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RedditAussie 12 hr ago +53

Bring on the aliens!

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Wsbkingretard 11 hr ago +10

salut! comment ça va?🛸👽🛸

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Sad_Ghost_Noises 10 hr ago +5

#Bien.

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Noy2222 8 hr ago +1

Merde.

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ChopperChange 12 hr ago +73

Prices in America are up thanks to Trump, his voters for this 34x convicted fraudster felon should be ashamed.

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Elegant_Tech 10 hr ago +6

Having the oil speculation market completely divorced from the spot price is also making people far too complacent for how bad things could become.

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DashingDino 10 hr ago +19

Prices are up in America? Mate the whole world is heading for economic recession thanks to this orange moron

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Shot-Discipline2026 11 hr ago +25

If they had any shame they wouldn't have voted for Pedo Diapershits.

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Ok_Lettuce_7939 10 hr ago +5

It's the MAGA way. Create a problem that didnt exist then lets Dems fix it, and then blame for the problem to begin with.

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Idiot_Savant_13 10 hr ago +2

Clearly these folks don't feel "shame", so... don't hold your breath.

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No_Character_5315 11 hr ago +1

I thought trump said they destroyed the Iranian navy

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JeanClaude-Randamme 10 hr ago +6

Missiles and drones can be launched from the coast. They don’t need a navy to close the strait.

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xcrestfallen 11 hr ago -15

Not American but this is on democrats just as much for being so weak and fielding pathetic candidates. Also on Americans in general for having the most corrupt executive office ever and not doing something about it. A general strike. Even reporters won’t ask tough questions, lol.

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Boneclockharmony 10 hr ago +8

Are the democrats to blame? Yes. Just as much, though? Come on.

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Regency9877 9 hr ago +1

Thats rich coming from someone who lives in a monarchy whose population is 85% foreign nationals that have few basic human rights.

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That__Guy__Bob 8 hr ago +1

So the democrats are to be blamed for 77 million people being f****** doughnuts lmao. That’s not even including the people who decided to not vote in that election as well

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HamasDaddyOnFire 11 hr ago -2

>most corrupt executive office ever Come on, more than a King? How about a Triumvir?

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KeyAny3800 11 hr ago +12

Atleast earlier they were letting friendly nations ship pass but this is disaster. And in a matter of few hours

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Current-Function-729 10 hr ago -7

It further isolates them. Hopefully cooler heads prevail and the IRGC gets pushed out.

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lemmerip 10 hr ago +9

Haha in what universe

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DEEP_HURTING 11 hr ago +7

I thought of a silver lining to all this: given enough time, people may learn the correct usage of the word 'strait.'

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planetarybum 10 hr ago +2

Bit of geography thrown in too.

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Suguha_chan 9 hr ago +1

Strait of Iran

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Engineer9 9 hr ago +1

Oil supply is in dire straits

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aardwolffe 8 hr ago +1

When the first taker gets sunk it will be doubly true.

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Noy2222 8 hr ago +1

How come no one talks about the Gay of Hormuz?

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MidLifeCrysis75 12 hr ago +18

But Donnie said their navy was completely destroyed? Are you telling me he LIED???? 🙄

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milnak 12 hr ago +19

And that the strait is permanently open. Are you telling me he LIED????

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HellBlazer_NQ 11 hr ago +5

We need more Pulp Fiction scripture from Pete Kegsbreath.

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Scypher_Tzu 11 hr ago +9

Ok tbf it is. Speedboats with people anad ak47s is not considered a navy.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova 11 hr ago +5

more like a DShK 12.7mm Machine gun and a 12-tube, 107mm rocket launcher.

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AvailableSubstance53 10 hr ago +1

It is now.

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Mac62961 10 hr ago +4

They’ve been saying it. Then its open! Then its not. I am not a fan of this war but they are continuing to play games like they have for decades. They have factions in their government saying different things. The IRGC is addicted to power and death while the lawmakers ( for all their pre approved propaganda) i think want peace. Then there is Mojtaba, who doesnt control anything and is probably looking like he made a visit to Mustafar (maybe he will auto tune the next lego ai video?) They want to hold the whole world hostage then give them hell. The world has put up with the IRGC for way too long anyway

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Lorenofing 11 hr ago +13

Once again, innocent sailors are the ones who suffer, despite having no part in any war… Do these people even understand that sailors on these ships are normal people at work? I don’t side with the US against Iran, this was a useless war started by the orange guy, but i stand with seafarers because i’m a seafarer myself and those are my colleagues. The life at sea it’s hard, why make it harder…

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kurizma 11 hr ago +7

Why do people still even question. These people don't care, or are just too dumb to understand.

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Lorenofing 11 hr ago +4

Well, you see how some people still try to defend Iran as if it’s 100% innocent and completely justified in defending itself just because it was attacked. Their “actions” are justified in the eyes of people thinking iran is defending but hitting merchant ships is like going after the cashier instead of the people who set the prices.

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Jealous_Response_492 9 hr ago +4

Iran is far from innocent, but that doesn't absolve the simple fact that the US/Israeli attacks were a colossal foreseeable strategic mistake. And yes Iran, whatever ones personal views maybe, does have a right to defend itself against a war of aggression.

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terragutti 8 hr ago +1

Yeah…. Nah, iran isnt the victim here. Theyve been stiking unprovoked for the longest time now.

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AvailableSubstance53 10 hr ago +4

The US blockade is an act of war.

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Current-Function-729 10 hr ago +5

I, uh, did you miss the part where the US killed the leader of the country and a bunch of their military assets?

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AvailableSubstance53 10 hr ago +4

No, I didn't miss that. The blockade in itself is an Act Of War.

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Elses_pels 9 hr ago +2

Please don’t ask me for a source but I read somewhere that since WWII civilian casualties were much higher than military ones. Ironically in WW III it will be safer to be a soldier. EDIT: I fount a source [WIKIPEDIA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio) The WW3 claim is speculation :)

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uglylilkid 10 hr ago +2

I'm curious. Can they not fly out from Qatar, UAE or Oman? Do some type of rotation? Or at the very least I hope they are paid extra for this time.

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Lorenofing 10 hr ago +2

They are paid extra, depends on the company, but does it worth being in a risk zone? Luckily i’m on a ship calling ports in Asia, but if i were there, i would do everything to get off because i see how less they care about humans and life is more important than a piece of steel..

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AllezVites 9 hr ago +2

Less than 3000 Americans were killed in 9/11. They recon between 4000-6000 Iranian sailors and soldiers have been killed. This was in peace time with no warning. Suffice it to say, I think they and their allies will have a bone to pick for a long time.

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RedIndianRobin 10 hr ago +3

Somebody tell IRGC, slapping a couple of guns in a dinghy boat doesn't make you a navy.

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AvailableSubstance53 10 hr ago +12

Apparently it does.

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superdupergasat 9 hr ago +1

I mean sure they might not have hugeass destroyers or carriers. But what difference does that make? Neither merchant ships nor US navy can safely pass their chokepoint without risking a drone strike/mine/rocket sinking them. They probably also dont have special forces and equipment specialized in arctic or jungle warfare, but that does not matter for the situation at hand.

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SMTTajWAR 10 hr ago +2

All they need is Dhows that can lay mines and gunboats that can intimidate merchant vessels.

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lekkerwafel 10 hr ago -3

Unrelated, but have you ever considered moving to the US?

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CannonAFB_unofficial 10 hr ago +1

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🫡

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Mysterious-Age-6247 9 hr ago +1

Mfs be playing battleship with the strait

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whatthesoms 9 hr ago +1

This is the stupidest chess game I've ever seen. Actually the intellectual level going on between leaders here is at about the checkers level.

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youngboylongstick 8 hr ago +1

It’s called a fools gambit

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ZasdfUnreal 9 hr ago +1

Last I read, Iran was targeting allied ships who tried to pass the strait. With friends like Iran….

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Winter_Body4794 9 hr ago +1

Can't stop punching ourselves in the balls, I see.

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sovietarmyfan 8 hr ago +1

He wants everyone on edge. Because he knows as soon as the conflict dies out people will refocus on the Epstein files.

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samplebeast 8 hr ago +1

It’s like say to toddlers you can’t do that and you can do that too. What a fvckin mess

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Khower 8 hr ago +1

What navy?

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ux3l 8 hr ago +1

We were so close to at least one week of oil shipments, but Trump had to f*** it up immediately...

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boomerangthrowaway 9 hr ago +1

The navy that is at the bottom of the ocean, right? Just making sure I have at least MY story straight. The straight of Hormuz is open and closed. Yes. 👏

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tombola201uk 9 hr ago +1

I thought the entire navy had been destroyed

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ChickenSoup131 10 hr ago -2

Whatever. Islamic regime cannot stay in power any longer . The longer it exists the more chaos it would bring into the world

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Apprehensive-Unit841 10 hr ago -1

Perhaps felon 47 should have honored the cease fire and not blockade Iranian ports? This was completely predictable

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crimedog58 11 hr ago +3

They just need to spook the insurance underwriters.

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CodeXploit1978 9 hr ago

Unless its Chinese. They don't dare touch those :D

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sausage4mash 9 hr ago

Trump brings people together we now have an Iranian American blockade,and to think they were at war last week.

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StatelyTree 9 hr ago +1

But Trump told me the war was over 27 days ago!!

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Heisenbergg55 11 hr ago -6

this is escalation by signaling not by full closure Iran knows it cannot sustainably stop all traffic but by threatening every ship ,it raises insurance costs disrupts flows and pressures global actors to push for a deal the goal is not total blockade it is maximum uncertainty at minimum cost Been tracking this kind of news (using Polymarket also), for more see my pinned post in my profile

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just_a_guy_named1681 10 hr ago -3

Iran trying to speed run the complete deterioration of it's international relations.

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Worth-Tank336 12 hr ago -8

Let's see if they do this to Indian and Chinese ships...

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Far_Addition1210 12 hr ago +19

They did yesterday.

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GreyGreenBrownOakova 11 hr ago +3

[Two Indian ships come under fire](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/iran/live-blog/live-updates-iran-says-strait-hormuz-reverted-strict-control-blames-us-rcna340767) in Strait of Hormuz after Iran reasserts control.

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lMFCKD 11 hr ago -8

Atp it seems Iran is just having mood swings

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Current-Function-729 10 hr ago -1

Kind of. The political leadership doesn’t control the IRGC.

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Iran navy says any ship trying to pass Strait of Hormuz will be targeted

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