So it sounds like this guy was the moderate on their team and was forced to stand down since he wanted to make concessions on the nuclear issue.
That's very bad for any negotiation prospects.
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HardlyW0rkingHard1 day ago
+55
There was a lot of chatter earlier this week about him being put on house arrest last week. This is something the irgc won’t ever announce because it would signal in-fighting.
However there have been multiple irgc commanders who have publicly ridiculed Ghalibaf and araghchi, namely commander vahidi, stating that after Khamenei’s death there is no acceptable amount of negotiations with the US.
Remember, the Islamic republic uses a decentralized command model in the event that the ayatollah is compromised. This leads to there because no actual chain of command. This has led to a large power vacuum.
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rubywpnmaster1 day ago
+18
A bunch of infighting, a leader who appears to be a puppet for the IRGC. Government appears to be making proclamations that are invalidated. Chaos
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smurfsundermybed22 hr ago
+2
Not a good look when that same chaos is on both sides. Different names, but thats about all.
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Blah_McBlah_1 day ago
+39
A competent American government would be leveraging Iran's decentralization to divide and conquer, playing each power player off of eachother. Then again, it's a moot point because a competent American government wouldn't have gotten into this mess.
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HardlyW0rkingHard23 hr ago
+29
I would argue that by pushing for more talks, that's exactly what is happening. The more they negotiate, the more a large portion of the IRGC is going to cause more in-fighting because they don't believe in negotiations with america.
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therealgreatness261 day ago
+75
As an Iranian, just want to point out that none of these people are moderates or as they like to call them “pragmatists.” They will continue to suppress the population in the favor of the regime. They will not die for the regime like the IRGC would, so in that case the needle moves a few centimeters to the left . Media loves claiming these killers as “moderates”
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[deleted]23 hr ago
+17
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Diamondangel8216 hr ago
-5
But Listnook does understand Iran?
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Dark_World_Blues1 day ago
+5
Yeah, I have read that he suggested to halt uranium enrichment for only 5 years instead of completely stopping it.
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ProteinFarts_1 day ago
+35
The IRGC "intervened" - which means the IRGC won the internal power struggle and is asserting itself as the new primary power in Iran. Which is bad, since they are religious extremists who believe in martyrdom and don't want to negotiate. There is either winning or dying for the cause, unfortunately. This is going to end up in a massive WW3 style ground invasion of Iran or Iran firmly in control of the middle east. If they win the middle east, expect more religious wars between Sunni and Shia
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FedBathroomInspector1 day ago
+37
lol, Iran controlling the Middle East is a funny joke. They can barely control Iran without violently putting down unarmed protesters.
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Slippery-ape22 hr ago
-8
They have terror groups in every country there damn near
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Unfair-Suggestion-3723 hr ago
-19
Sounds like Israel
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FedBathroomInspector22 hr ago
+10
If I pull your string do you have any other quirky catch phrases or is this the only one?
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moolymagic22 hr ago
-9
They would
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sjogren22 hr ago
+4
Prediction - there will be no ground invasion, just a continuation of the current mess for years.
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fec22451 day ago
+6
I’d be against your ground invasion prediction but even if it happened, who would join in to make it WW3?
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ProteinFarts_1 day ago
-13
China and Russia would likely aid Iran, and move in their own local interests when US military assets were reduced, maybe. But generally I was referring to a kind of war in Iran that would take 1 mil+ soldiers... which perhaps was incorrect.
Do you think there is another avenue to force the IRGC to open the strait? Allow them and the GCC to reach nuclear status?
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fec22451 day ago
+14
Russia has no excess capacity and China isn’t going to get directly involved in a conflict. I think the two sides flirt for another month and then reach a deal that both sides can call a victory
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Dauntless_Idiot23 hr ago
+8
>Do you think there is another avenue to force the IRGC to open the strait? Allow them and the GCC to reach nuclear status?
Once Iran's ability to produce drones/missiles/artillery is gone then the war is on a fixed timer. You need to bomb production of every step/component of production including dual use ones.
You are trying to stop Iran's ability to attack outside of the country which is significantly different from their ability to attack inside the country.
Iran is not Ukraine, they don't have the air defenses to protect large chunks of their drone factories. Most regional countries dislike Iran from being attacked so their external aid is going to be lower too.
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Far-Association543823 hr ago
-1
When will this be done? How will you ensure all underground facilities are destroyed? How will you ensure they don’t create new underground facilities? How will you ensure Chinese and Russian supplies don’t get in? All of this requires ground invasion.
If it were that easy, their nuclear enrichment capabilities would have been gone long ago and one of the us negotiation points wouldn’t be to hand over all of their enriched uranium.
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Dauntless_Idiot17 hr ago
+3
Did you just demand a hard timeline for a hypothetical discusssion?
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hurdurnotavailable20 hr ago
+3
It's already done. Their production capacity is effectively close to 0.
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Far-Association543816 hr ago
-1
Lol, just like how their entire military is effectively gone? Just like how their entire missile and drone supply is almost done? 😹
Maybe by close to 0 you mean 99% 😹 1% closer to 0.
I’m sure your dumb ass believes the US DESTROYED their nuclear supplies last year too, and somehow spawned them in again within a year.
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hurdurnotavailable16 hr ago
I follow what both parties military claim and osint. You?
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Far-Association543816 hr ago
-1
Looks like you’re doing a shit job
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hurdurnotavailable15 hr ago
+1
Lol. Predictable deflection. Looks like you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Tuco_sala17 hr ago
-1
Who told you that? Trump?
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Brief_Hospital_17661 day ago
+6
Hey! Waddya know! Trump got his 'regime change' 🤣
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steve_ample1 day ago
-6
I, too, would not want to talk to JD, all matters of internal discord aside. Though I would pass on my list of insulting one-liners of Vance to my successor, as all good professionals would want to do.
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arul201 day ago
-2
Who are the idiots downvoting this. JD, Witkoff and Vance are 3 turds.
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_KarsaOrlong1 day ago
-11
This is not true. Both CNN and the Wall Street Journal just reported the White House still regards Ghalibaf as head of the Iranian delegation.
[CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/24/world/live-news/iran-war-trump-israel-lebanon): "Vice President JD Vance is not currently planning to attend given Iran’s Speaker of the Parliament, Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, is not participating either, the officials said. Ghalibaf is viewed internally by White House officials as the head of the Iran delegation and Vance’s counterpart."
[WSJ](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-war-us-trump-2026/card/witkoff-kushner-to-travel-to-islamabad-vance-stay-in-washington-YIVMvchyYmvZwfcsMfBC): "Mohammad-Bagher Ghalibaf, whom the White House regards as the head of the Iranian delegation and Vance’s counterpart, isn’t expected to be there, a White House official said."
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KeepCalmCarryOnKY18 hr ago
+5
You lost everyone with a brain with the sentence "the White House says"...
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