Well it is almost Monday so gotta get the market to react positively.
256
BroccobilloApr 27, 2026
+35
Holy. It's now 18:30 on Monday for me.
35
Non_LinguistApr 27, 2026
+17
You in Middle Earth?
17
jh80891Apr 27, 2026
+11
Bro all you have to decide is what to do with the time that's given too you. Duh
11
Jest_out_for_a_RipApr 27, 2026
+3
Is the working theory that Iran is trying to cause the stock market to go up in the United States? Possibly in coordination with the Trump admin?
3
OpenDaClosetApr 27, 2026
+354
I hate Donald Trump, I hate the Iranian government. I’m tired. The End!
354
Aritter664Apr 27, 2026
+27
What do I do when everyone sucks?
27
manacharApr 27, 2026
+22
Figure out the causes and conditions of everyone sucking and work to solve them.
22
Black_MoonsApr 27, 2026
+16
Pretty sure someone tried that yesterday.
16
gamasApr 27, 2026
+3
Eh to be honest the US really needs to realise it's problems neither begin nor end at Trump. Trump didn't arise out of a vacuum, he came out of a deep seated rot in US society.
My biggest fear is that the US Democrat seriously think the problem goes away with Trump, and upon regaining power will just continue business as usual as if nothing happened. Then act shocked when next election a new Trump like figure appears and wins.
My worse fear is that the Democrats are complicit - as the tone of the main party is less shock at the US' actions but the manner Trump is carrying them out. Less concern about what the US is doing rather than the manner in which Trump talks about it. The silence has been deafening with regard to how the Democrats have responded to this war. The fact Biden kept the immigration internment camps was the first sign of that.
Edit: Like its the same naivety as the Venezuelans and Iranians who thought the US were liberating them. Toppling the head of the government is meaningless if the forces that put them there still exist.
Edit 2: Incidentally it's why i get so annoyed at how Israel handles the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Yes, Hamas are a terrorist group whose views are radicalised beyond the pale, but the basic root for extremism in the Palestinian community is a belief that Israel steals their homeland and murders their people. Trying to 'eliminate' Hamas by flattening and occupying half of Gaza is the most counterproductive approach ever - as you are just creating more Palestinians with a visceral hatred of Israel and want to see it burn. Like what Israel does is equivalent to if the UK tried to stop IRA attacks by nuking Ireland.
Everyone on this planet seems to always think the solution is violence when diplomacy and willingness to compromise would achieve better long term results.
3
jabba-thederpApr 27, 2026
+7
And it's actually not that hard to do the little things that add up to huge change over the long run. But the current day doomerism propaganda would have one believe *"it's not worth it and the change would be outpaced by evil blah blah blah chronically online slop*"
People need to realize coalition building in local politics is the clearest path to change.
7
nissen1502Apr 27, 2026
+5
You confuse realism with doomerism. Your naivety to think you can just get into politics and make any large scale change is unsettling. The issues stem from the politicians being corrupt and it all being a friends and family group. Good luck getting in there talking about stuff that will help the regular person and not the elite.
5
jabba-thederpApr 27, 2026
I know people doing the work and am witnessing it happen live. It's easy for you to say all that when the only thing you do is complain on social media, but maybe things aren't as bleak as these "friends and family" groups make them seem? Stop falling for their propaganda.
Obviously you don't just talk about stuff. It's about action. It's not like "hey guys I'm Karen I'm the new girl and let me lay out my personal agenda it includes lowering our own salaries as well as pushing for ranked choice voting, better worker protections, and unionizing the local government offices!✌️😁Hugs and kisses!" Like no what the f***??? Obviously not. Not sure why u strawman me as if I'm saying to just walk in and lay it all out. You go slow, finesse your way in. Talk to like minded people. Convince your candidate to answer the phone personally. Tell them what ads are cringe and turning away voters. Persuade people to stop purity testing and get together as a coalition. And of course, convince people to let go of the hopelessness and, instead, to act. The little things that turn YOU into a power player. You wouldn't know, evidently. What do you do come election season to make the country better? What accredited institutions have you donated to and volunteered for? What workers have you personally helped through crisis?
You just came here to argue a strawman in your head because I struck a nerve in you. You *do* understand that you feeling hopeless about making large scale local change is YOUR perspective right? And people can have different perspectives? This brainrot populist framing of "good luck it's all elite corruption in every level of politics in all 3,143 counties and every last one of the people in them is bad because the Internet told me so" is EXACTLY what got MAGA elected and appealed to them. It's EXACTLY what got them to blindly follow their own elected Republicans and trust that every last thing they do is the right thing.
Sure you're entitled to your depressing perspective unfortunately but I'm speaking on the actual reality that I've witnessed factually, while you just come and insult my intelligence, call me naive and confused, condescend to me, and then patronize me with a "good luck" without even explaining *why* you're right. You ok? I get it. Shit can feel dark. Don't take it out on your fellow citizen what the f***?
You can keep complaining while I first hand witness people making the country a better place. It's a thankless job after all. But don't spread the Elite's propaganda under the guise of "I'm just being realistic here and we're all fucked so let's just roll over and take it." I know people that will have made your life better personally in 6 years and you'll still be complaining and not even recognizing it. On their behalf, you're welcome.
0
Haru1stApr 27, 2026
+3
Vote against the worst option. Keep voting against the worst option until someone that matters actually gets a clue.
3
HoratioPornBlowerApr 27, 2026
+1
Become radical.
1
BlitzdriveApr 28, 2026
+1
Get drafted
1
sswihartApr 27, 2026
+32
This.
32
rednova2006Apr 27, 2026
+11
Is.
11
Zombie4141Apr 27, 2026
+8
The
8
RepubliconlineApr 27, 2026
+13
End
13
ZappyZaneApr 27, 2026
+9
Exclamation mark
9
SugarBallz_Apr 27, 2026
+4
Is it?
4
quasteApr 27, 2026
+4
Well, have a nap.
THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES
4
Shadow1787Apr 27, 2026
+2
I’m le tired.
Such a throw back. Can we go back to new grounds? When I didn’t hate myself and the world?
2
Haru1stApr 27, 2026
+3
That’s it, get nice and tired before the midterms, join the third of Americans who elected Trump through absenteeism.
3
National-Two2417Apr 27, 2026
+27
What's worse is Trumps making bank on this war, now he prolly thinks he can make more with another conflict.
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ZappyZaneApr 27, 2026
+14
Hmmm.... invade the Falkland Islands, look at all the wins:
- pick on small(er) country
- need to de-nuclearerise [sic] them
- split/leave NATO
- new place for a mighty biggle USA base
- or give to friend for bouns points (undisclosed billions into personal account)
- declare peace = ~~7~~ ~~12~~ ~~24~~ 30 places made peace-d = Nobel guaranteed!
Because the UK is so weak, it'll probably only take two weeks max to get teh win.
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taisuiApr 27, 2026
+30
And remember Trump created this shit because Obama had a nuclear deal
30
MikeisETApr 27, 2026
+15
And none of this would have happened if trump wasn’t a pedophile
15
TheNewGildedAgeApr 27, 2026
+7
No, it probably would have.
7
Amazing_Athlete_2265Apr 27, 2026
+9
Well he is, and the US still voted him in
9
ohhhbooyyApr 27, 2026
+1
That’s 24/7 news for you.
1
_GD5_Apr 27, 2026
+1
Well it has to drag out through the elections…
1
BusterOfCherryApr 27, 2026
+1
Well trump stuck his d*** in crazy.
1
Traditional-Oil-6891Apr 27, 2026
+181
It says in the article that Trump wants to continue the blockade until Iran caves to his demands. I would take this news with a grain of salt.
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aaazzzdeeeduuulaaaApr 27, 2026
+30
This timeline is too f****** stupid to make predictions...
30
uMunthuApr 27, 2026
+17
He obviously wants a grandiose capitulation from the Iranians so he aliment is permanent circus. Meanwhile, the Iranians are trying to establish long term deterrence and save face. The US has no more pressure levers, no allies to back them up and Iran is holding on. This is dead end and the shit show will drag on. I am positively furious that the world has to endure this d*ck head
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DemosthenesOrNahApr 27, 2026
+3
> Meanwhile, the Iranians are trying to establish long term deterrence
It reminds me of the scene in enders game (the book version) where Ender fights the bully at school in..such a way that he 'wins all future fights' too.
He basically horrified the onlookers to such an extent and did so much damage to the kid that Ender prevented those 'future fights' by treating that fight as the existential crisis that it was.
3
NetQvistApr 27, 2026
+4
Art of the Deal is at it again.... Blackmail, threats and if that doesn't work TACO time!
4
edm4unApr 27, 2026
+645
Ahh yes markets open tomorrow, just in time.
645
xmuskorxApr 27, 2026
+176
It's like IRAN learned to manipulate the markets....
176
shes_a_gdbApr 27, 2026
+61
At this point the market doesn't really react to this anymore. Everyone (on listnook) expected it to crash last Monday, yet it didn't. The algorithms don't care about Iran news anymore.
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UnknownHero2Apr 27, 2026
+16
I have a rule for listnook. Listnook never knows what the market did.
Not will do. Did.
Like they literally cannot be bothered to look up the change and just make shit up. Everyone should get in the habit of checking every stock price reference they see on listnook.
16
NecklaceDePerlasApr 27, 2026
+22
Sounds like it's time to find *new green lands.*
22
DouglasRatherApr 27, 2026
+2
I would disagree. Go look what happened to the futures market when this was announced. The SPY ran up around three dollars in the next two hours after the announcement.
2
Comfortable-Title720Apr 27, 2026
+30
They have the Trump cards lol. Possibly the largest stake on global evens right now. Massive leverage. Trump is too stupid to back down and is now dragging it out.
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Mac62961Apr 27, 2026
+4
I wouldnt say that, the closed straight is only going to piss the world off more and more
4
imperial1sApr 27, 2026
+14
True. But the world is blaming Trump.
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UnoriginalStangerApr 27, 2026
+3
The world is blaming Trump but eventually that might give way for more practical concerns. Though Trump spending years burning good will isn't helping him out now.
3
MEWilliamsApr 27, 2026
+5
The US is ALSO blockading the strait.
5
pepperino132Apr 27, 2026
+3
Yes but for Iran it's existential. The US are the ones who created the problem.
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sharp11flat13Apr 27, 2026
+2
Well, they certainly know how to manipulate Trump. They’ve put him in a no-win dilemma here. If he takes the deal gas prices come down (eventually) but he looks weak. If he doesn’t take the deal gas prices continue to rise, along with the price of everything else, and he has to continue a very unpopular, expensive war. The Art of the Deal guy is being played like a fiddle. Trump is in way over his head here.
2
xmuskorxApr 27, 2026
+6
Meh. Trump is not facing a re election
So what does he care.
Iran economy will collapse faster than US. Possibly. People say "midterms" - but trump does not care about the Republican party...
6
lazykid348Apr 27, 2026
+45
They too found the infinite money glitch lol
45
BleatmopApr 27, 2026
+8
It only works when the markets respond to the news. Which from what I've heard they don't anymore.
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llorTMasterFlexApr 27, 2026
+3
They still do. Especially in futures and options markets where small moves like .20% or more, move the derivatives up 100% or way more.
3
SpontaneousDreamApr 27, 2026
+2
Meh, it works until it doesn't.
2
sentrypetalApr 27, 2026
+230
Ahhh Axios again. Pumping the market.
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ignatious__reillyApr 27, 2026
+5
And what’s “open” mean?
Does that mean they still control it and charge tolls?
5
Not_Campo2Apr 27, 2026
+101
Axios article means it’s most likely straight from the White House, definitely doubting this a bit
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no_kids-and-3_moneyApr 27, 2026
+58
I’m going to have see a lot more than “according to a U.S. official” Axios.
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sroneApr 27, 2026
+71
Oh, look. The S&P jumped 2 points. I wonder how much Barron the vampire made.
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ChicagoAuPairApr 27, 2026
+8
He never drinks…wine… 🍷🧛♂️
8
Any-Interaction6066Apr 27, 2026
+44
Here come the reports to try and pump the markets. US official says... Think we've heard that one before, but can't be too certain...
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smitbretApr 27, 2026
+12
So, not a real offer then?
12
Groovychick1978Apr 27, 2026
+13
I'm going to rewrite the first sentence so as to not bury the lede.
"According to a U.S. official and two sources with knowledge, Iran gave the U.S. a new proposal to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and end the war, with nuclear negotiations postponed for a later stage."
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Totoques22Apr 27, 2026
+2
« Later stage »
As if they’ll ever do them
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hillswalker87Apr 27, 2026
+3
I'm sure Iran would love that but honestly I doubt this is over until they give the nukes up.
3
northdancerApr 27, 2026
+32
Barak Ravid, ignore
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hayjay2000Apr 27, 2026
+6
I was going to say the same thing. But I was going to preface my statement with that.
Because I find the entire 'offer' laughable. I mean, don't get me wrong, I want this war OVER. (I'm in the US.) But this is how this 'offer' comes across: Iran says 'We'll give you opening the strait--with the caveat that we get to control it, toll it and let who want through, oh, and no nuclear talks until later. You give us removing the blockade and ending the war. Like, how is that an 'offer?' it's basically EXACTLY what Iran has been saying for weeks now. The US gets nothing in return. There's no compromise.
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StuckinthesandboxApr 27, 2026
+14
Axios and Barak Ravid have 0 integrity. I’d trust TMZ as a news outlet more.
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WideCoconut2230Apr 27, 2026
+6
It's a blockade surrounded by another blockade.
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machopsychologistApr 27, 2026
+2
Caesar did this at Alesia I think?
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DateMasamusubiApr 27, 2026
+20
Expect to see more confusion from both sides per public remarks. But that is the nature of politics and diplomacy when both sides have differing objectives.
The US proposal is surprisingly generous to Iran and my understanding that the key objective is nuclear above proxies and regime and whatnot.
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ShipTheRiverApr 27, 2026
+12
On one side you have the most dishonest and corrupt US administration in history, and on the other side you have a half destroyed, totally fragmented mess of a leadership structure full of people who are either terrorists, terrified for themselves, or both. It’s an impossible situation information-wise. The only thing you can trust is whatever physically changes on the ground over there.
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faffc260Apr 27, 2026
+20
all trump wants to do is outdo obama's nuclear deal with his own. he doesn't care about the rest probably, just wants to claim he out did obama. even though we can all see he hasn't..
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Darkone539Apr 27, 2026
+5
It's so sad that this is true.
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NodivingallowedApr 27, 2026
+1
And Trump reportedly had a genuinely better deal before he got involved in this catastrophe. Now Iran can just wait the US out.
1
SY0123Apr 27, 2026
+1
I’m not an expert in this, but what is wrong with a JCPOA-like deal that allows surveillance of all their nuclear activities other than the fact that they will use the funds to further strengthen their grip in the region? The Iranian regime is the problem, not just its nuclear program.
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DateMasamusubiApr 27, 2026
+13
It had its flaws. Observers could not enter military sites and it was set to sunset after a decade or so. The idea was that lifting sanctions would increase funding for Iran's proxies and nuclear enrichment, increasing the cost of conflict in 2030.
In effect, this is what Iran did, bolstering Hizbullah and Houthis in Lebanon and Yemen + proxy militias in Iraq. It aggravated relations with the GCC, notably S.Arabia.
If the global community is committed to a nuclear free world, the idea is to have a zero tolerance, maximalist approach to show other countries what the price of enrichment and arms development would entail.
I can't say which school of thought is correct or not. We have seen Pakistan, India, and North Korea join the nuclear club and it is obvious that more countries with nukes would be a less safe world. Some believe that liberalisation through development is the way, others cite how China has become increasingly authoritarian since ascending to WTO in 2000.
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CryptoThroway8205Apr 27, 2026
+1
Pakistan and India never allowed IAEA inspectors, Israel banned them before getting nukes, North Korea dgaf and also banned inspectors betting neither China nor the US would invade to stop them. Fair point they weren't allowed to inspect military facilities.
JCPOA was set to sunset but Iran rejected Biden's efforts to renovate them because they wanted assurances 47th wouldn't just rip up the agreement again. It's easy to say screw it and go to war. Negotiations are hard.
1
idk78875Apr 27, 2026
+18
The problem is, we had that and then pulled out in less than a decade. We kinda made it hard to make long term deals with us
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getwhirleddotcomApr 27, 2026
+4
Not just that, we bombed the ever loving shit out of them, killing children and civilians, while in the middle of active re-negotiations.
4
ChrisFromITApr 27, 2026
+3
Yup, just because the re-negotiations were going no where and weren't done fast enough.
It feels like Trump thinks that deals like these are negotiation over a single day. They aren't.
3
kal14144Apr 27, 2026
+8
It’s now apparent we’re not getting regime change without a ground invasion. And we’re not willing to do a ground invasion.
That leaves you with 2 options:
1. Continue war indefinitely with all the associated costs (strait stays closed etc)
2. Accept that you’re not getting regime change and ask for basically the JCPOA.
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NoForm5443Apr 27, 2026
+2
I'm really amazed at how bombíng a country without provocation can be surprisingly generous, but ... ;)
2
ModeatelyIndependantApr 27, 2026
+15
Iran is gonna have to come to fact that no one on the planet outside of the shia militia they fund wants them to have a nuclear weapon. And no matter how much of pedophile rapist piece of shit Trump is, for starting this war. It's not gonna end with favorable conditions for Iran that allow them to continue their nuclear program. They are willing to kill thousands of their own people to stay in power, allowing them nuclear refinement is more idiotic than re-electing trump.
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iamstephen1128Apr 27, 2026
+7
And yet the stupidity of pulling out of the JCPOA and bombing them into oblivion multiple times while purporting to be negotiating is only supporting the hardliner position that Iran will continue to face existential threats from the US and Israel until it has a nuclear (or similarly effective) deterrent. Anybody who tells you that Iran doesn't come out of this mess in a stronger position relative to that under the JCPOA is delusional
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Davidx91Apr 27, 2026
+2
“according to a U.S. official and two sources with knowledge.”
2
Surfer_RickApr 27, 2026
+2
Barak Ravid - the chosen journalist for market manipulation and lies
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Solesky1Apr 27, 2026
+4
Right on schedule, market opens in about 11 hours
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hologeekApr 27, 2026
+4
"Can we just do the Obama thing" Someone in the trump admin asks...
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Explorer335Apr 27, 2026
+4
I seem to recall the strait being open before this idiotic war
4
viktor72Apr 27, 2026
+4
The price of gas in my area is actually down. I’m sort of surprised. Not to where it was before the war but it’s down to like 3.37 from a high of 4.15. Are others seeing this? What do you think could be contributing to this because it’s not like the blockade has ended and things are certain again.
I’m not complaining about it, but curious.
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ShamanSix01Apr 27, 2026
+6
It’s been reported that some States and localities have temporarily lifted their taxes on gas.
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DavidlikesPeaceApr 27, 2026
+4
No. I just saw it at $4.30
We will have to see. The market will eventually turn based on reality, not rumors
Market bias favors the president's optimistic statements, but can't outweigh the strait remaining closed.
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A_Nonny_MuseApr 27, 2026
+4
We already had a deal. Trump tore it up because it was made by a black man he hates. A black man wildly more popular than trump, btw. A black man wildly more respected than trump, btw. A black man massively more smooth and refined than trump, btw.
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Hemlock_PagodasApr 27, 2026
+2
Look up the JCPOA sunset clause. The vast majority of restrictions limiting Iran Nuclear capabilities would have expired in 2025. It did nothing to prevent the current situation.
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RaychaoApr 27, 2026
+2
Mission Accomplished.
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deepfinkerApr 27, 2026
-3
So basically back to before orange idiot started bombing Iran?
-3
External_Counter378Apr 27, 2026
+6
Not gonna bring khameni sr back to life
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SneakyFire23Apr 27, 2026
+4
Not exactly a net loss for the world here
4
StupendousMan1995Apr 27, 2026
+1
pump pump pump
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This_Acanthisitta_43Apr 27, 2026
+3
I’ve heard the US are planing more attacks in the next 48 hours.
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pm_me_yo_creditscoreApr 27, 2026
+2
*- Divar Karab*
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SiWeyNoWayApr 27, 2026
+1
I thought I saw a headline that araghchi was en route to moscow for a meeting
1
suicideking1121Apr 27, 2026
+1
This is purely for market manipulation.
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QuarterFlounderApr 27, 2026
+1
When is this temporary not-a-war going to be over and gas prices back to normal like MAGA said?
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Different_Victory_89Apr 27, 2026
+1
Boss, I'm tired
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Hot-Combination9130Apr 27, 2026
+1
Trump is so weak
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WeakTransportation37Apr 27, 2026
+1
I don’t believe this yet
1
duglarriApr 28, 2026
+1
You would have to be a fool of epic proportions to not take that deal.
Trump: we're not taking the deal.
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[deleted]Apr 27, 2026
-7
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-7
tubby_LULZApr 27, 2026
+7
Who’s gonna take them lmao
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Ill-Surprise-2644Apr 27, 2026
+2
The pedophilic geriatrics in Washington or Tehran? I'm confused - which group of pedos are we talking about here?
2
Several_Magician1541Apr 27, 2026
+1
Nobody lets the US have nukes, they invented them and built them when not a single entity in the world had the power to stop them. That's how the real world works champ. Who do you think is "allowing" it?
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