I didn’t see this mentioned anywhere but I took that tweet, and whoever wrote it, as a nod to Mike Tyson’s “going crazy/animalistic” famous rant
> Lennox is a conqueror? No, I'm Alexander, he's no Alexander. I'm the best ever. There's never been anybody as ruthless. I'm Sonny Liston,I'm Jack Dempsey. There's no one like me. I'm from their cloth. There's no one that can match me. My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah.
Tyson and Trump kind of speak the same in the hit on the side of the head repeatedly and convicted of sexual assault kind of way
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onarainyafternoon4 days ago
+11
I guess it's possible, since Trump is a fan of Tyson last I heard. I still don't think there is any context where that would have been appropriate for the POTUS to say, though.
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mrwadupwadup4 days ago
+5
Unverified but I saw a reel that said that there was a polymarket bet with 1% chance of him saying the word Allah before Easter. Go figure.
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CrewMemberNumber64 days ago
+103
This war would have never started if we just released the Epstein files back in December like the DOJ was required to do. Trump should be in prison, yet he’s in the Whitehouse in way over his head and is going to get our service men and women killed. All because our president is an *alleged* sexual predator. This is an absolute travesty.
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Stockengineer4 days ago
+56
Dude is a convicted felon… he shouldn’t even be president
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King_Fisher994 days ago
+12
The constitution doesn’t prohibit it. The idea was to let the voters decide. It’s time to amend that part.
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Prohydration4 days ago
+6
The idea was to discourage a potential tyrannical government from designing a law specifcally to prevent a political opponent from running for office. The voters were supposed to tell the difference between persecution or genuine criminal.
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Feligris4 days ago
+1
Which is decent reasoning, even though it led to the current result thanks to part of the US voter base being completely enamoured by the false strong man image Trump had projected of himself and possibly due to his MAGA base still being enraged over Barack Obama's two terms so they wanted to vote for someone who'd take "revenge" for them over that.
Since in turn I recall that it hasn't been long since Russia had its presidential elections, with the w***** being Putin after all of the even remotely threatening opposing candidates had been forced out of the race thanks to sudden convenient criminal charges being levied on them, something which can be quite easy for the incumbent president to do to debase their opponents.
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Stockengineer4 days ago
+3
They delayed his sentencing… and gave him special treatment.
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onarainyafternoon4 days ago
+5
Ehhhh, I still don't think being a felon should bar you from being elected. Would basically allow political prosecution of your opponent just to get them ineligible to win the office. It should be up to voters to decide whether we want a felon to inhabit the office. Unfortunately, we failed that decision. But it should still be up to us.
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porgy_tirebiter4 days ago
+3
Well, there’s one specific crime that does bar you from being elected, and if Garland had gotten on the f****** ball, that would have likely been taken care of.
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TuffGnarl4 days ago
+18
Yep, it’s a failure of American political structure, the fabled checks and balances, that turned out to be vaporous when someone truly shameless got into power.
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Melinoe20164 days ago
+9
Do you have to put alleged due to the rules here because it’s confirmed imo. 1-10 coincidences maybe. 38k+ coincidences? Not even counting the redacted ones.
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lollipop9994 days ago
+5
Or you know, a third of the country wasn't a bunch of evil, dumb scumbags
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HoustonHous4 days ago
+15
I feel like this comes up daily. The truth is that we don't really know what happens behind closed doors. Iran is posturing for its citizens, and Trump is doing the same. Iran keeps on saying no deal and no negotiations, but today they admitted to sending a response and counter. I guess we'll be smarter tomorrow at 8
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imanchats4 days ago
+15
The most unnecessary war. And it’s not a joke…people have died.
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Pseudanonymius4 days ago
+28
Unstoppable force vs Immovable Rock. IRGC is not going to change their position, they have been given literally no reason at all to listen to Trump. They don't care about civilian casualties or bridges burning. Trump has made a very grave mistake, he's learned his entire life that if he just keeps on escalating, eventually people will back down. Now, he's becoming increasingly unhinged and desperate as Iran is simply not backing down, and they got him by the balls.
The entire rescue mission is also a massive fiasco. Shooting down planes is bad enough, but trying to rescue the pilots is extremely desperate. They risked hundreds of lives and spent hundreds of millions just to get those 2 pilots back. That's a massive win, if it only cost 1 shoulder-fired rocket from an IRGC guy. They're in it for the long haul, and sooner or later Republicans in Congress are going to revolt. Mark my words.
Every week this continues, they get more letters from constituents. Every week, they know their position, in a safe R+20 district, becomes more untenable. It'll probably be the senators first, but I expect it won't take too long before this will lead to a complete breakdown of the Republican party. There is literally nothing Trump can do to stop this war from continuing or to open the strait of Hormuz, except back down. And he's not able to admit defeat.
Oh well, at least he will be forced to learn that before the midterms.
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Cautious_Goose_55684 days ago
+39
You have too much faith in Republicans doing the right thing.
Spoiler: they won't
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Pseudanonymius4 days ago
+15
They will not do the right thing. They will do it because at some point they become too scared. They will do it out of self-preservation.
The sentiment does not rise from any faith at all in Republicans, it comes from a sense of dread about what will happen to the US if this goes on for much longer. We're days/weeks away from the point where ships leaving Hormuz at the moment it closed would reach Europe/US. That's when the real pain will start. And it will escalate very quickly. This will not be a small recession brewing, if the markets lose faith this will just be a quick brawl.
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onarainyafternoon4 days ago
+7
I don't know, man. I have seen essentially zero evidence that the MAGA base is willing to give up their support for Trump under any circumstances. I feel like they would still support him even if they were starving. The cult is really that bad. The fact that Trump's approval rating is still 35-40% is completely unhinged.
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stillthrowinitallawa4 days ago
+3
Losing is their only fear.
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AlaskaStiletto4 days ago
+7
They will if only to save themselves.
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emily_strange4 days ago
+9
Do the type of voters that live in R+20 districts think critically? They fall in line
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Pseudanonymius4 days ago
+6
They will when they can't pay for gas, food or rent anymore. And if Hormuz isn't opened soon, _everything_ will become _a lot_ more expensive. Every 5 dollars the oil-price per barrel goes up, equates to 0.2% of inflation. Go ahead and calculate how long it'll take to become untenable.
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emily_strange4 days ago
+2
I can only hope you're right. These voters are so dishonest and easily conned. They just need to be told it's the 'Dems fault' and they'll buy it.
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Pseudanonymius4 days ago
+3
That's the scary part, I do not hope I'm right in some ways. Because for me to be right that means major pain through the US, and more accurately the world, for many many people who have already been struggling for years. I do not think it'll happen lightly.
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lattice_defect4 days ago
+2
he's learned if we ropes enough people into shit he'll get bailed out
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Pseudanonymius4 days ago
+5
Who's gonna bail him out? Who _can_ bail him out?
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porgy_tirebiter4 days ago
+7
Probably going to go like this:
Trump: We’re making good progress, so I’m extending the deadline for 48 more hours.
Iran: I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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LostRonin4 days ago
+4
You cant force religious zealots into a corner when they believe death is their greatest reward.
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Kimpak4 days ago
I think trump was expecting iran to have a shitty military like Iraq and Afghanistan. Iran has a real military that's scoring some big kills. Trump is still in denial.
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TiredOfDebates4 days ago
+3
IRGC is best at protecting the regime from internal threats.
Iran has an actual army for a military, but it blows.
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HarEr894 days ago
+3
Lol, you are talking bullshit. The IRGC were hyped over decades. Their forces are not that good. They needed 5 weeks to down a US warplane. They were unable to capture the pilots. They haven't downed a single Israeli warplane. They lost leader and dozens of commanders in the opening strike. They may continue to refuse to make a deal with Trump, but the IRGC are not good military forces.
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Seri0usJack4 days ago
-3
Hi, are you from pakistan? 🤣
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East-University-86404 days ago
-12
lol. 15 KIA (RIP) to 6k+. Cope
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Kimpak4 days ago
+5
Its not the body count, they've taken down multiple very expensive aircraft and can still take out more.
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di11deux4 days ago
+14
On a clean balance sheet, there's no comparison here - Iran has lost significantly more men and material than the US or Israel. The country has been bombed every day and night for a month and they've lost much of their leadership, their entire air force and navy, and significant stores of missiles, drones and ammunition. The US has lost expensive equipment, but it's not really a comparison.
But this is not a clean balance sheet, and the threshold for what Iran can absorb is exponentially higher than the US or Israel simply because there's no fallback plan for them. They'll absorb more losses because they have to absorb more losses - there's no alternative for them.
Because there's an asymmetry here, the strategic calculations will always remain in Iran's favor.
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goforbroke714 days ago
+4
The other thing to consider is how much the world economic engine will slow as gas prices rise. The oil price increase is 100% caused by Iran's response to the bombing. It may eclipse the damage sustained to Iran's infrastructure.
Unfortunately that damage is spread worldwide instead of just affecting USA/Israel.
Also if the USA doesn't get c**** oil out of this war, they are spending billions for nothing in return.
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di11deux4 days ago
+1
Somewhat paradoxically, I think both Trump and Iran have done more for the green energy movement than any other actors in human history.
Short term, Iran has an incentive to induce economic pain via energy crunches. Long term though, they're just incentivizing a true shift away from fossil fuels. Their leverage over the Straits won't matter if countries don't need the product that moves through the Straits.
So the economic toll is indeed a factor here. I think it's a bit of an outstanding question as to whether inducing so much economic pain ultimately ends up hurting Iran more in the long term.
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goforbroke714 days ago
+1
All good points.
With the sanctions they are already enduring I am not sure how much worse the world can make it for them economically (unless they lose their remaining trading partners which I think is doubtful).
Unfortunately I see a humanitarian crises as the result of no one backing down .
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edm4un4 days ago
+1
It’s a war, what are you expecting. These are real people and real machines fighting against each other. I don’t know about you but if the mainland of my country got bombed heavily, I wouldn’t call that win by any means.
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Kimpak4 days ago
+1
It's a war that had no point in even starting is what i am getting at. We could have had exactly zero losses.
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East-University-86404 days ago
-8
A single f15 and a couple of stratotankers doesn’t seem like much to me.
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Kimpak4 days ago
+8
You missed the point of my post. Iran has actual modern weapons. They have a whole industry devoted to it. I'm not saying they have the capability to defeat the whole U.S. military. The point is they can fight back a hell of a lot better than some guerillas using AK47's and IED's. Trump pulled a Putin...thinking he could resolve whatever this is in a week and oops, that didn't happen. Now what?
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Loose_Skill66414 days ago
+1
when this happened to Putin, he started having discussions about dropping tactical nukes on the front lines and only pulled out because the US was threatening them with NATO attacking Russia if they used nukes. Does that mean Trump will now think about nukes?
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Kimpak4 days ago
+7
> Does that mean Trump will now think about nukes?
It would not surprise me in the least if he has already thought about it.
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ClassicInvestor4 days ago
+3
I am surprised he has not rage tweeted it
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farhanadance4 days ago
-24
Typical lefty loser crying.. Trump is my president...eat that
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Kimpak4 days ago
+16
This is supposed to be an insult? I pity you.
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wgszpieg3 days ago
+1
You're getting screwed over by a con artist, you pay for the privilege, and then you ask for seconds.
Turns out there's one opinion of Trump's I agree with - his voters are morons
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farfanseaweevil4 days ago
+2
F*** this guy and his supporters!
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farfanseaweevil4 days ago
+1
F*** Hegseth…we have a weak military if they can’t stand up to this guy.
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badk11Z4 days ago
-17
The IRGC are not rational actors. I think Trump was counting on them being reasonable and capable of negotiating in good faith; they aren’t.
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DeKosterIsNietDom4 days ago
+4
It's irrational to reject negotiations when the counterparty murdered your leader during the previous negotiations?
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Regitnui4 days ago
+21
Neither is Trump, to be fair. Man can't keep his speeches on one topic to save his life.
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badk11Z4 days ago
-10
Trump is fairly predictable if you read his book. Aggressive threats, public pressure, walking away, and creating extreme leverage to force concessions or surrender.
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rnbwshrm4 days ago
+9
Yes, works with anyone without a spine or integrity. Playground bully diplomacy.
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badk11Z4 days ago
Playground bullies are predictable.
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rnbwshrm4 days ago
+1
Well could be, I was just calling him an unsustainable leech on society.
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Noughmad4 days ago
+3
>creating extreme leverage
Trump has never *created* leverage, he has only used it. Or rather, spent it, because you usually can't use the same leverage too many times.
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wgszpieg3 days ago
+1
No one takes him seroisly any more, no one negotates or talks with him. He's a joke. Just not a funny one
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badk11Z3 days ago
+1
They just negotiated with him.
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M3G4MIND4 days ago
+4
Trump tore up the previous agreement with Iran then have attacked them twice during negotiations. How exactly is trusting a word he says rational?
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+10
The Iranians are not rational? Trump just threatened to bomb all civil infrastructure of the country. The man has lost contact with reality.
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badk11Z4 days ago
-1
That’s my point. The IRGC doesn’t care if all the country’s infrastructure is destroyed. A reasonable actor would.
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+4
Your president threatened with war crimes mate! War crimes. Is that a rational position??
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HitEscForSex4 days ago
+1
He already committed them by double tapping that school.
Attacking a school is a warcrime, doing a second attack wiping out the people coming to help the victims is another one.
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+2
Sorry, should’ve said “threatened to continue the war crimes”.
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badk11Z4 days ago
+1
Where have you been for the last 25 years? World leaders don’t care about war crimes anymore. Putin has an arrest warrant issued by the ICC for war crimes-do you think he even cares?
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+2
How is that better for the US? There is no moral difference between the US and the fanatics running Iran at the moment. How the hell are you ok with that?
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badk11Z4 days ago
-1
Morality and war have nothing in common. There’s no moral way to kill people en masse. With that in mind countries act in their own interest and hopefully kill as few people as they have to in order to accomplish their objectives (in this case neutering Iran so the US can pivot to the western hemisphere and prepare for China’s invasion of Taiwan in 2 years)
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+2
Stop murdering people en masse or in any other way you lunatics.
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HarEr894 days ago
+2
But the Iranian regime killed 1000s of Iranian civilians in January, much more than Israel and the US in this war. They execute opposition figures every day.
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+3
How is bombing power plants gonna help civilians?
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badk11Z4 days ago
-1
Have you never taken a history class before? That’s what our species does.
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Additional-Can91844 days ago
+2
You’re supposed to learn from it not to take it as an example!
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HarEr894 days ago
+1
That's sadly true. The IRGC are Islamists who don't care about their own population. They killed 1000s of Iranians in January. The executions are ongoing. They don't care if the US or Israel kill civilians, they can use it for propaganda.
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Charizard35354 days ago
+4
Lol you think trump is a rational actor? He's a moron.
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abominable_prolapse4 days ago
+3
They declined terms because that allows USA and Israel breathing room to plan and most importantly produce and restock interceptor missiles and other measures. The United States most likely would not honor the full terms or time table and we all know Israel loves to bomb children and hospitals during ceasefire.
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badk11Z4 days ago
+2
Interceptor missiles are produced at a rate in which a 45 day period wouldn’t matter (it’s extremely slow). If anyone needs “room to breathe” it’s the IRGC…their leadership has been decimated. That said, they don’t want “room to breathe” the hardliners are in control and they’re perfectly willing to fight to the death without caring what the country looks like as a result.
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wgszpieg3 days ago
+1
Yes, why won't they negotate with a senile sociopath who changes his mind every hour and renegs on every agreement he's ever made...
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badk11Z3 days ago
+1
They just negotiated with him.
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pontiacfirebird924 days ago
+1
Trump has no idea where he is most days and I doubt he can even count anymore.
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HT_redux4 days ago
-1
Muricans are all trash! Terrorists! Led by a demented pedo! Spineless, unserious, amoral people!
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Ok-Spirit-40744 days ago
It's funny how they report "Iran rejects a U.S. ceasefire plan" but never mention "U.S. and Israel violated the last 5 ceasefires Iran agreed to"
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