Iran rejects ceasefire as deadline nears on Trump’s ‘hell’ ultimatum

This is why diplomatic deals continuing through presidents of different political parties has been extremely important. How can our enemies or allies trust our word when our word changes drastically every 4 or 8 years?

There wasn't such promises to protect. And only one that broke Budapest is Russia. Budapest Memorandum in large was just empty water with most of it basically same "obligations" countries have under UN anyway.

No, the Budapest memorandum guaranteed that the signatories would not attack Ukraine. It had no provisions for the US to *protect* Ukraine from Russia apart from raising the issue at the UN security council.

Please edit your comment. You are actively spreading decade old Russian misinformation points. > When Ukraine gave up the USSR nuclear arsenal, it was under the promise that they would be protected from Russia. This is a known years old Russian misinfo talking point that they spread that you are repeating (with +100 upvotes no less here). You can look up the Budapest Memorandum right now. What it promised is that neither the USA or Russia would invade Ukraine (which Russia obviously broke it), not that either would defend Ukraine from the other. Aka by simpler terms, it was a non-aggression pact, not a defensive pact or alliance. Russia used it as a misinfo point to gaslight attention away from the fact that they invaded Ukraine in 2014 when they took Crimes, despite promising to not attack, and put the blame on the USA to lead people into believing the USA chickened out and is not reliable. This exact point was used to convince ignorant people that Biden was weak and not really helping defend Ukraine (by lying about what the Budapest Memorandum was by telling them it said the US protects Ukraine despite it never saying that), and tell them Trump would be more "hard on Russia". Before the election, you could find people in this Listnook and pro-Ukraine Listnooks talking this exact point. Then Trump got elected and pulled all Ukraine aid he could, and has done far more continued damage to the concept of relying on Americans across the world.

It's almost like maybe this is the plan to address climate change. I hear Chernobyl is doing pretty well now.

I’ve often wondered if he’s secretly a Vogon.

He can’t read, so, that’s out.

Pete’s got a new rap song.

You mean Hegseth is gonna give us some more slam poetry? If so, I want hell rained down on me first.

just bomb me pls

There's an expression in Farsi that roughly means "bullshit" but translates as "p**** and poetry" so it works in this instance for anything Trump spouts.

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War of attrition. Most non-MAGA can outlast most MAGA, economically. Let it happen. Make those fuckers pay. I'm here for it...

I don’t think so this time. He can issue orders to kill and not worry about it. His base loves that he is hurting other people It will give him an excuse to use force to get the oil which he will say is making the US money, damn the lost lives it takes to get it

Well threat, bluff, who knows.. but 3 aircraft carrier strike groups is the magic number to go 24/7 Armageddon. You specifically need 3.

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I mean, Iran doesn't have them.

There will be a marginally increased bombing run that Trump will parade as “most intense bombardment yet”, followed by him saying talks are getting better thanks to his tough love approach. These so called talks will collapse and we will see this exact same headline shortly after

Food supply makes it worse. Chip supply (helium) makes our economy go boom. Done son.

“They’re not supposed to fight back when you r*** them!” 

“No one could have predicted they would do this, everyone was surprised!”

The technological advances will confer benefits upon Iran as well. They will defend favorable terrain with ideological fervor and the advantage of numbers. With new tactics made viable by advances in technology, cyber and electronic warfare, US troops will be facing kamikaze and FPV drones, unscrewed ground vehicles, sea drones (unamanned naval platforms), hypersonic missiles and all sorts of other nasty shit that the Iranians have stoved away.

Our air forces have taken losses not seen since Vietnam. Either our air campaign is being run poorly, or we grossly underestimated the Iranians. I think it's both...

The war itself is what the regime needed to avoid being toppled. There is no need to specify which regime.

This war will be remembered as America's Suez Crisis moment.

Still the only super power. China will be one soon but Russia and Europe are fading.  “Leaders of the free world” is over though. 

They may not be popular but that doesn't stop them from being a super power. I do like the way we in Europe are moving away from being US centric but we are still heavily reliant on them, especially there tech sector which is why the EU constantly bend over backwards and can't back up their words.

Nah, still a super power. You don’t lose it that easily. The weapons and money are all still there along with *some* influence. But definitely don’t lead the world anymore.

Stock market goes up.

What delusional fantasy fiction are you reading that makes you think the gulf states want to kick the U.S. out. The gulf states have wanted Iran taken out for decades.  It was about to happen a few years ago.  The Saudis and Israelis were going to normalize relations and this was going to happen then.  At a time when Iran had a lot smaller stockpile of missiles and drones. It's the entire reason Iran pushed Hamas to attack Israel.  They knew how Israel would respond and knew the gulf states had to distance themselves from Israel for a while.

When was the last time an american ground invasion went as expected?