Iran rejects second round of talks with US – IRNA

He literally took out Iran’s top leadership during the last round of negotiations.

Trumponomics 101: I win you lose, you beg i gloat. He just cant help himself, late stage psychopath manchild that has never faced any sort of consequences.

Absolutely. And we are talking about a really terrible regime. Total scum! (I'm talking about Iran) And yet THEY are sounding like the reasonable ones here.

The ceasefire required isreal to stop (they launched the biggest surprise attack like 6 hr later) Then they do a stupid blockade 😂, so they couldn’t even de-escalate during negotiations. Why would they till us capitulates something

To be fair they're not worth negotiating with anyway. Not that Trump is either, given his daily schizo behavior, but even if it weren't Trump and a more sane man, the Islamic Republic isn't worth negotiating with. Their words don't mean anything either. It's a battle of bullshit between Trump and them. They don't allow their people to vote for anything beyond a puppet president who has no power so it's all charades. All state media and news is controlled by the government. Their internet has been in blackout for 51 days and counting. They imprison and execute people daily. Meanwhile they supply the middle east terror groups and would continue to even if "negotiated with". They'd continue to do all these things even if negotiated with lol. They will not change even one of these behaviors for anything in return. Pretty sure their version of reasonable would be to exit Iran, leave their uranium alone, leave the strait alone and accept fees, repay damages, and make a public apology while spending years condoning for the US's mistakes. In return, they'd continue chanting "Death to America" in their mosques.

Because they’ve been militarily defeated and ostensibly value the lives and material wellbeing of their people. The same reason Japan surrendered unconditionally after two nuclear bombs were dropped. That’s the trick though, Iran’s leaders do not value the lives or wellbeing of their citizens, or even of themselves. Death by jihad is a far nobler calling to them, making them an irrational actor by our standards. Being an irrational actor is why they aren’t trusted to have a nuclear weapons program, but it is also why they can’t be defeated in anything less than a war of annihilation. The cost of which would be ruinous to the US, the region, and the world. Whatever decision Trump makes now will be the wrong one. He simply bit off more than he could chew.

Phil Stewart from Reuters reporting on his X.

Hold up he's going to end 52 wars in one year that certainly will win him the peace prize

i’m starting to think this Trump guy might not be entirely honest.

The strait being closed indefinitely would cause a worldwide recession that would definitely include the US. We're not far from that happening even if the strait reopens very soon.

Oil price is global unless Trump wants to force US oil companies to sell c**** into the domestic market instead of exporting (nationalization? Little bit of communism in the US?) So for now the world sits in the same boat and we all saw, who poked holes into it to distract from the US Gov being run by pedophiles.

What makes you think the intervention would be directed militarily vs. Iran and not plitically vs. the US? The Europeans would get a massive lashback from their population if they were to start a war not to mention that most countries don't have a navy that would be able to do anything significant in the Gulf of Oman. Some would also argue that going to war with Iran would create security risks as the tentions with Russia rise.

no he isn't. it's just annoying for him

>We have practically killed so many of the leadership there isn't a clear sense of who is able to fully represent that nation anymore Well we know who is in charge now. the IRGC. We put the hardliners of Iran into power and basically killed anyone who was close to being a moderate who might want to actually work with us. 400IQ move according to the MAGA morons.

> We murdered solemani under pretense of peace talks Is that what people are going with now? FYI he was there ostensibly for Saudi-Iranian talks, not US-Iranian talks as i've seen mentioned elsewhere, the only person claiming that was the Iraqi PM a staunch Iranian supporter. Most countries also send you know, diplomats on a diplomatic mission, not the guy who's job it is to set up foreign backed militias in the sovereign territory of other countries, but hey! What do I know, peace mission it is! > We sank a boat immediately after a peaceful international training exercise C'mon, people are still going on with this one too? The war was already started (please no comments about usage of "war" no one likes arguing semantics) It had any opportunity to go to port in India, there is no indication that it was unarmed and it was traveling back towards the conflict zone where US ships were situated. This is cut and dry. > We have practically killed so many of the leadership there isn't a clear sense of who is able to fully represent that nation anymore It's funny, usually people talk about how it's the leaders who get off easy in war, and civilians pay the price, here it is the opposite and people still find faults with it. The leaders of Iran, especially the IRGC are terrible Human beings, at the top of a Terrible organization, if there is infighting happening all this serves is to weaken the regime. I don't know what people here expect. It took 3 years to sign the JCPOA, this conflict isn't going to end over a weekend. Reactionary listnookors just love jumping headline to headline and providing the most doomer outlook on each one. It is more than likely going to go kinetic again before resolution and we are still weeks away from the blockade starting to apply serious pressure. Buckle in folks, and stop reacting to headlines.

I don't understand why Leftists are so quick to let Republicans scapegoat Israel for the war. Obviously Netanyahu wanted this, but he has wanted this for several administration. Trump and the Republicans had all the power and responsibility to say no, and they chose this. They need to own that. Preferably by losing midterms.

With the US blockade it will get hard for Iran to hold out quickly. They'll run out of cash and their economy will tank.

> which is mostly a problem because it’s humiliating for Iran’s government The other problem is that at this point, it is unclear if anything other than a nuclear bomb and delivery mechanism provides any security mechanism for Iran to not be bombed/struck again.

This, and this has been happening since the outset of hostilities. It is so funny watching people on this site jump headline to headline taking it completely at face value. Like the idea of posturing is a foreign concept here. The Hormuz situation is good example. Like stop reading tweets, and start watching ship tracking. Are there no boats going through? Then ignore whatever the headline stated.

Direct policy infrastructure . Basically, we have to figure out ways to make sure the pain isn't felt in logistics. Pretty much, the best way to digest this in the everyday - the reason why prices aren't over 10 dollars at the pump, and a total fracture hasn't occurred, is because there are groups working around the clock so that doesn't happen. I really wish I could say that people can keep going. But this has hit my org super hard. We already had stay over the weekend - again - and it's hitting us we have to work even harder now.

Just off the cuff - Ten of thousands of people on combat pay, Boats moving around on patrols (not in port). Launching crazy expensive flights 24/7 from 3 carriers and land. Astronomical fuel bills and wear on all of the equipment… etc.

Are the troops not getting paid for combat zone deployment?

Ships dock at Navy Yards for very long periods.

True the CSG would be somewhere but it damn sure wouldn't be costing a this much. You should know that

Not just operating costs. Lost assets. Lost bases. This is catastrophic for the US.