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specqq Mar 25, 2026 +148

You mean the 15 point plan that only had 15 points because the President randomly pulled the number 15 out of thin air in an answer to a reporter’s question and they needed to pretend that was a real thing?

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justinanimate Mar 25, 2026 +48

The one that had the first three points being an identical "no nuclear weapons?"

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OtherBluesBrother Mar 25, 2026 +7

I think he wanted to repeat it for emphasis. Like he was writing the rules to Fight Club.

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justinanimate Mar 25, 2026 +5

Oh absolutely. He says "Points 1-3, they're not building the nuke," and realistically in and of itself there's nothing wrong with him saying just that. But then adding that they have a fifteen point plan... It begs the question of how many actual points are in this thing, if it exists at all

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OtherBluesBrother Mar 25, 2026 +3

I have seen several news sources report that it exists, but the plan itself has not been made public. My guess is, as we have seen before, the administration probably scrambled to turn Trump's verbal diarrhea into an actual 15-point plan to save face. Whatever is in the plan, Iran has already refused it. [https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-talks-trump-peace-plan-troops-hormuz-rcna265051](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/live-blog/live-updates-iran-war-talks-trump-peace-plan-troops-hormuz-rcna265051)

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MaxRD Mar 25, 2026 +2

They wanted to make sure those pesky Iranians didn’t find a loophole in the wording of the conditions

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PageGroundbreaking26 Mar 25, 2026 +16

The first 3 were no nukes! lolol

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illogical_mindset Mar 25, 2026 +9

Thou shalt not have nukes Thou shalt not have weapons in the likeness of nukes Honor thy nuke agreement

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MadRaymer Mar 25, 2026 +4

Sounds like the holy hand grenade bit from Monty Python. Nukes are right out!

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Zomunieo Mar 25, 2026 +1

Worship the lord your trump and serve him only That one was probably too much.

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porkbellies37 Mar 25, 2026 +1

You shall pull the pin and count to three. No more, and no less.

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NatalieVonCatte Mar 25, 2026 +1

If you walk without rhythm you won’t attract the pedo

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SlurmDreams Mar 25, 2026 +11

The 15 point plan that was already in place, just had a black man's signature instead.

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Ridry Mar 25, 2026 +3

I've never read it, but I would bet Obama's only had 14 points.

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okiedokie2468 Mar 25, 2026 +2

Exactly this!!! Take my upvote!

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porkbellies37 Mar 25, 2026 +5

You mean the 15 point SURRENDER. Trump was rejecting anything less than a "total surrender" and declared that people on the streets could take over their government. The Ayatollah's son is now in charge and the minute they take over the Strait of Hormuth and the price of oil skyrockets, Trump is giving them a means to end the war. I hate to say it, but Trump is trying to surrender, but spinning it as a generous gesture. We never had a mission to accomplish. We're just trying to end the war because it is becoming politically difficult.

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W1nt3rmu4e Mar 26, 2026 +1

Iran has all the power here, and they know it. The USS Ford had to retreat, and Iran is now letting traffic through for select tankers. The don’t have to end anything, and why would they after the last two “peace talks” were just a way to get central command on one point for the US to strike the peace talk location. I wouldn’t end the conflict were I Iran.

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Teigh99 Mar 25, 2026 +3

I'm convinced that the only reason why we did this military operation 😒 is because I keep hearing the number 47 years and Iran.

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25point4cm Mar 25, 2026 +4

With Distraction Don, I believe the reason was to take the Epstein files out of the news cycle. All you hear about is the war, the .gov shutdown and voter suppression. What do they have in common? They’re all Trump’s doings and are all within his control.

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nanopicofared Mar 25, 2026 +3

its 15 points because he doesn't like anything more than that

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sharkbandit Mar 25, 2026 +3

Wasn't this literally a plot point of an episode of The Office?

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gravybang Mar 25, 2026 +2

Actually, it was 15 points when it was proposed in May of 2025 and Iran rejected it. He's probably just confused.

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pbrandpearls Mar 25, 2026 +2

I don’t think he could count to 15 let alone have coherent enough thoughts to name 15 things.

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Ya_Got_GOT Mar 25, 2026 +1

“This sounds like something a real statesman would say.”

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Significant_Cup_238 Mar 25, 2026 +131

The funny thing about war. Takes one party to start it. Takes all parties agreeing to end it.

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acornvale_squirrel Mar 25, 2026 +39

Exactly, That’s a hard truth a lot of people overlook. Starting conflict is easy compared to the patience, compromise, and accountability it takes to actually end one. It really shows how much more strength peace requires than war.

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Significant_Cup_238 Mar 25, 2026 +36

Especially once you gain a reputation for going back on your commitments. No one has any reason to believe Trump will keep his word.

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azflatlander Mar 25, 2026 +9

Um, when did he keep his word. I’ll wait.

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Defti159 Mar 25, 2026 +25

He was honest when he said he would run the country like one of his businesses. Wish more people listened to that and understood what that would mean.

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pontiacfirebird92 Mar 25, 2026 +11

Here's an open secret: They didn't care. They voted for him for his anti-immigrant rhetoric and white supremacist tendencies. They voted him to attack LGBT people. They did not vote for him for any economic or foreign policy. They will argue it but they knew what they were voting for. The anti-Democrat, anti-Liberal, anti-immigrant, anti-Christ.

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Defti159 Mar 25, 2026 +2

I agree with you that they backed his rhetoric mostly due to the fact it targetted people his base did not like. I dont think they would have fully backed him if they knew they would be impacted negatively in the end by the policies they supported. To me that makes his base even more craven and servile/stupid. They are willing to support causing pain to others while lacking the conviction required to follow through on their hateful rhetoric; As well as failing to imagine how their actions would affect them if followed through on. I would look take a measure of pity for them if they weren't trying to hurt my friends and family because his base seems to willing to be led by the nose into their own financial ruin. Screw them all, i am going to make sure i remind them of how stupid our country is/was until the day i pass on.

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pontiacfirebird92 Mar 25, 2026 +3

You're talking about a group of people who honestly believe empathy is a sin and that critical thinking is an evil act.

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Defti159 Mar 25, 2026 +1

I dont disagree with you and actively say and think the same. That will not affect my values for how i treat others. Yes, I acknowledge the complexity of carrying that perspective. Yes i understand that empathy can be used against me.

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Voodoo_Masta Mar 25, 2026 +2

By “run the country like a business” what he really meant was bankrupt it, since that’s all he knows how to do with a business.

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Defti159 Mar 25, 2026 +2

Yes that was what I implied.

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TroutandHoover Mar 25, 2026 +1

>No one has any reason to believe Trump will keep his word Right now Trump speaks for America. It's going to take a lot of time for the rest of the World to regain that trust. America will always be 4 years away from another potential Trump.

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OtherBluesBrother Mar 25, 2026 +1

Trump is lacking in patience, compromise, and accountability.

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No-Lion-4734 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Yep. Diplomacy is a thing..and Kushner and Witkoff are no diplomats.

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Zogtee Mar 25, 2026 +12

How many times has the US won this war now? How many times has Iran been "completely obliterated"? All their leaders killed?

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XSinTrick6666 Mar 25, 2026 +2

Don't forget the Navy. We sunk all their boats. Victory in 1 hour.

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Bronsonkills Mar 25, 2026 +7

Man, the hubris of the United States in this affair has been comical. And not only will we lose, our leaders will try to pretend it was a victory

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belisario262 Mar 25, 2026 +42

they said Trump is "negotiating" with himself lol the trolling is strong with these ones

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ForsakenKrios Mar 25, 2026 +18

They’re supposedly going to start letting non USA and Israeli aligned ships through the strait at 1 million a piece - to be paid in yuan. Gotta hand it to them for the trolling in this particular case.

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OldSchoolBubba Mar 25, 2026 +10

China openly entered the frey trying to change the world monetary system from dollars to yuan right on cue. RIC (Russia-Iran-China) formed a strong tripartite twelve years ago and they're playing Trump and his yes men like a piano. This is what happens when incompetent amatures and criminals cosplay running America.

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WasabiPete Mar 25, 2026 +3

No one is playing trump. He is in on it.

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OldSchoolBubba Mar 25, 2026 +3

He obviously thinks he is. Putin, Xi and Khomeini are of a different opinion. He represents everything they hate about America so they're basking in their control over him. They're literally laughing at him given he doesn't know how much. Cold War II in full display.

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W1nt3rmu4e Mar 26, 2026 +1

This isn’t a second Cold War, it’s the final victory of the original one. We *lost*.

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OldSchoolBubba Mar 26, 2026 +1

Cold War ended back in December 1991. USSR was so kaput their ships settled at their piers and their sailors were stealing parts because they weren't getting paid. Their Air Forces were most probably the same while their Army was putting band aids on everything to keep their stuff working. KGB and their security services went private sector or Russian mob. I was over alright. Putin started bringing II back in the later 2000's and then went full blown in the early 2010's. II is still very much in play only this time Putin aligned with China's Xi and Iran's Khomeini because he knows Russia doesn't have what it takes to beat America by themselves. Once the Dems retake control of Congress massive investigations will reveal the real truths Kevin McCarthy and Mike Johnson are trying to hide from All America. Putin's true "meddling" and blackmailing will come out and he'll be slapped with such severe sanctions all Mother Russia will be brought to their knees worse than before. No one can rewrite history to those who actually lived it or stop the inevitable blowback when criminals are caught for years of screwing with the wrong Country. Word.

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XSinTrick6666 Mar 26, 2026 +1

If by "in on it" you mean "distracting from 3mill+ Epstein documents" then .. I agree

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smurfsundermybed Mar 25, 2026 +2

It's not even trolling. It's just the truth. Think about how many conversations he told us about during his last term that never happened. He's having a lot more of them this time, and now they include heads of state. Perfectly normal. Nothing to worry about. /s

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Colonel-Mooseknuckle Mar 25, 2026 +26

Funny that you can't even find this mystical "15 point plan" anywhere.

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CrunkleStan Mar 25, 2026 +16

it’s the concept of a 15 point plan, he’ll release it in full in two weeks

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Bad_breath Mar 25, 2026 +2

After the audit, mind you..

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pwolter0 Mar 25, 2026 +2

We can't! That's interesting week!

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OtherBluesBrother Mar 25, 2026 +2

After Shark Week.

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GG1817 Mar 25, 2026 +3

It includes Trump Tower Tehran. Iran converting their power supply to "beautiful clean coal", Iranians agreeing not vaccinating their kids...

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Richard_Sauce Mar 25, 2026 +1

The markets have been eating this up. "Trump is going to end the war! Lower the price of oil! Stocks go up!" Markets are f****** stupid.

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Dreamtrain Mar 25, 2026 +1

wouldn't surprise me if he heard somewhere or by one of his idiot aides that the deal Obama made with them had 15 points and he's decided to roll with that with no further detail beyond the bogus number they made up on the spot

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thedrmadhatter Mar 25, 2026 +19

It’s a 45 day plan, 45 days, 45 points, 1 point per day. We get the points and we are back in business.

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fence_sitter Mar 25, 2026 +3

"90 deals in 90 days!" -Don Snorleone.

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Im_hi_rite_now Mar 25, 2026 +2

Exactly what I thought of haha.

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-Mage-Knight- Mar 25, 2026 +1

It is the advent calender of plans.

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-Tayne- Mar 25, 2026 +1

Let me get 55 points, 55 plans...

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jc83po Mar 25, 2026 +1

I'm not going to do, the twirl. Alright? It's not even a twirl, it's a spin.

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DLun203 Mar 25, 2026 +11

Crazy that we had the ability to inspect Iranian nuclear facilities but Trump withdrew from the deal in 2018 without reason. Now, out of concern around their nuclear capabilities, he’s started a war that resulted in the deaths of hundreds of civilians/children and hundreds of US military casualties.

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Late-Dingo-8567 Mar 25, 2026 +6

What do you mean without reason? He withdrew for a very good reason.. Obama signed the deal!

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cycling-expat Mar 25, 2026 +10

Trump is asking for them to give up their territorial rights. No country is going to do that. Iran is willing to reopen the straits, but that doesn't mean it can reasonably be asked to let a foreign country control its waters. The rights to passage through the straits is due to intl norms and traditions that back up laws and treaties, but none of that actually gives control or ownership of that to another country.

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teamdiabetes11 Mar 25, 2026 +7

Exactly. It was the same before America and Israel attacked as well. Iran’s only lever was their nuclear program. They tried to leverage it for reduced sanctions, which would have helped them. Trump and Bibi laughed and bombed away. America and Israel demand all concessions from Iran. They don’t actually negotiate. And here we are, again, with the same failed playbook.

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AcanthisittaNo6653 Mar 25, 2026 +10

Typical for republicans to start a war and then hand it off to the Dems. Here we go again.

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npsage Mar 25, 2026 +5

To quote the single competent person ever hired in either Trump administration; “In my line of work, the enemy gets a vote.” - Jim Mattis

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audiate Mar 25, 2026 +4

Trump had led us to the FO phase

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Tough_Violinist_9594 Mar 25, 2026 +3

They have leverage over Trump via Russia Putin is dictating everything because he could end Trump at anytime

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aradraugfea Mar 25, 2026 +3

But Israel has the bits of the Epstein files the DOJ won’t release.

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Agent-Adept Mar 25, 2026 +3

Trump still believes he is in control. He’s never been in control since he attacked Iran. It was a stupid decision.

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19-FAAB Mar 25, 2026 +3

I can't just hand you my plan. I mean, if you guys hire me, then, then you'll get the plan. I'll give you part 3 of part 2. Not gonna give you a whole part.

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TripleJ80 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Great post, though it makes me sad that this could be life imitating art.

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therealvladimir_0 Mar 25, 2026 +2

15 point? Impressive. Never knew he could count that high or understand beyond 3 points.

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middlebird Mar 25, 2026 +2

They have the upper hand.

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Spamgrenade Mar 25, 2026 +2

If it wasn't so serious I would be laughing at Trumps failure to find an off ramp.

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oldgreymutt Mar 25, 2026 +2

At some point, just like Covid, Trump will just stop talking about the war and pretend it doesn’t exist

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Then_Journalist_317 Mar 25, 2026 +1

If he would just put on a flight suit, stand on the deck of a mothballed aircraft carrier, and declare, "Mission Accomplished," the war will be over.

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crimsonjester Mar 25, 2026 +2

some admin had to quickly write up 15 points after Trump pulled that number out of his ass.

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Then_Journalist_317 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Point 1. Give up all your nuclear material, and the U.S. will guarantee your security. See the Geneva Accords as an example of how the U.S. guaranteed the security of Ukraine. Points 2-15. Bong bong boing boing x 14.

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AlexRescueDotCom Mar 25, 2026 +2

did he copy/paste the text that russia gave ukraine? is one of the 15-point plans for russia to have donbas?

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FlyFisherman4Life Mar 25, 2026 +2

Diaper Don is going to be mad! Per Iranian Lt: "The one claiming to be a global superpower would have already gotten out of this mess if it could. Don't dress up your defeat as an agreement. Your era of empty promises has come to an end."

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gravybang Mar 25, 2026 +2

Is this from this year, or from when the rejected it in 2025 before they got bombed?

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joe_dirty365 Mar 25, 2026 +2

Lies, Trump can't count to 15.

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bubbafatok Mar 25, 2026 +2

I was gonna say "not with his shoes on at least" but then I realized that fat f*** probably hasn't seen his toes in 20 years.

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BritTheBret Mar 25, 2026 +2

I heard from a reliable source it was only really a 12 point plan.

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hairymoot Mar 25, 2026 +2

State TV? Is that Fox News?

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jarious Mar 25, 2026 +2

1- give US free oil 2- turn to Christianity 3- send 1500 virgins to mar a lago 4- send new plane 5- take JD Vance 6- take Eric 7- make English the official language 8- adopt the imperial system of measurement 9- build trumps golf clubs all over the country 10- give half the land to Israel 11- produce child p********** for republicans 12- create MAGAland theme park send profits to dear leader's swiss account 13- invest in stealing water from Mexico projects 14- give us all army able men to invade other middle east countries 15- buy the Melania movie

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i-read-it-again Mar 25, 2026 +2

15 is just a step to far.

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LimpyDan Mar 25, 2026 +1

We know the first 3 are "no more nukes" cause he totally knows how lists work.

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zaparthes Mar 25, 2026 +1

No one knows more about lists than Trump. He is the greatest expert on how lists work in history. A man came to him, with tears in his eyes. "Sir," the man said, "you have the most beautiful lists." The man wept. "Your lists saved my family from the transverts and cured my gout and pedophilia!"

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LimpyDan Mar 25, 2026 +2

I didn't even know that happened!! *claps*

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sxyaustincpl Mar 25, 2026 +1

Seemed reasonable until that last one...

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xicor Mar 25, 2026 +1

They have too much power over the price of oil and therefore the opinion in the us for them to give up

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p0rty-Boi Mar 25, 2026 +1

We will nuke them and Saudi Arabia before anyone starts selling oil in Yuan.

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Anxious_Claim_5817 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Anyone know what the 15 point plan is, sounds like Kushner Russian 20 point plan. I Guess more points is supposed to impress us. Reminds me of Spinal Tap “but this one goes to 11”!

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TripleJ80 Mar 25, 2026 +1

15 pts - I’d love to see those in writing considering the first three were “no more nukes” to which Trump said they already agreed to. What can they do next to manipulate the markets, since Iran called them out on bullshit again?

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Glum-Estate-1088 Mar 25, 2026 +1

This shit is so f****** funny in a “we’re all f****** doomed” sort of way.

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jayfeather31 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Iran's got all the leverage here. They have zero reason to accede to our demands, and it should be the other way around.

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Avoidtolls Mar 25, 2026 +1

Shhhh. Don't tell the Stonk Market.

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drbart Mar 25, 2026 +1

So much winning!

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SpakenBacon Mar 25, 2026 +1

Trump doesn't understand compromise and it shows in Congress too.

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SarahArabic2 Mar 25, 2026 +1

13

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Ecstatic-Plantain234 Mar 25, 2026 +1

Iran had almost 50 years to prepare for this. Donald Trump 50 minutes.

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ChefCurryYumYum Mar 25, 2026 +1

Steve Witkoff is not a credible source for anything except perhaps for what Putin wants Trump to do and how to make Trump do it. Same with moron-in-law Jared Kushner.

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karenskygreen Mar 25, 2026 +1

I love this, if its true. Trump and Iran are all liars but rejecting the plan is a truth.

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Captain_Tooth Mar 25, 2026 +1

Shocker there. I think he knows Trump's motives and the fact the whole world knows troops are being deployed. This is a real shit show folks.

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Catspaw129 Mar 25, 2026 +1

It was points 14 & 15 that put the demands over the edge for Iran: 14. Iran shall cede the coastline of the Persian Gulf to The Trump Orgaization for resort development. 15. I want a pony, with a cherry on top.

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IllustriousRange226 Mar 25, 2026 -5

Well duh. The Islamic Republic thirsts for mass death so no way they would accept any peace.

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Iran rejects Trump's 15-point plan to end war: State TV

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