Jerusalem Post said he was going to call Netanyahu this afternoon. I could absolutely be wrong, but why do I have a feeling they discussed resuming the war?
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jpharber2 days ago
+767
Because it’s pretty clear that’s what ~~BB~~ Bibi wants to do.
767
TheTeflonDude2 days ago
+268
BB said today he wants boots on the ground to snatch up all the Uranium
268
AllLiquid42 days ago
+110
American or Israeli?
110
Kaplaw2 days ago
+597
Israel will fight to the last American
597
OopsWeKilledGod2 days ago
+132
>"No b****** ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb b****** die for his country."
Except the bastards are on the same team.
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redneckrockuhtree2 days ago
+95
No, Israel is on Israel's team. But they're sure as shit not on anyone else's.
95
crowmagnuman2 days ago
+37
This ^
If, say, China and Russia decided they felt froggy one day and decided to jump on US, and we asked Israel for help: all of a sudden it'd be, "You mean.. little ol *me?* Were just a tiny little country in a.. well, we're in a tough neighborhood you guys. Cmon. But one thing for sure- we're rooting for ya. Go get em big guy!"
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DragoonDart2 days ago
+23
If I could upvote this more I would because I think it’s something most people don’t realize about US-Israel relationships. It’s not a conventional alliance like most of the NATO nations.
The whole “our most dependable ally in the Middle East shtick” isn’t really true. That’s a line for the Christian voters of the US who think Israel has more in common with them then they do the rest of the Middle East (hint: they don’t, talk to an Israeli or visit and you’ll find more similarities between them and a Jordanian then you would them and a New Yorker). Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait… the US has a lot of really good relationships in the Middle East and in many ways most of them offer MORE to the US than Israel. Look at both GWOT and the Gulf War for an example.
This part without judgment, because I think it’s a complicated thing to pass judgment on: Israel, likewise, has never given a shit what anyone thinks of it and what it does. The above nations would never act without US weigh in. Israel does whatever the f*** it wants.
The US role there has, historically, largely been more of a containment and pacifying voice. No one in the Middle East liked them and they didn’t like anyone else, like the outcast kid in the classroom. The US has been the teacher in the room keeping all parties from just straight fighting each other over the smallest things because that benefits the US too.
That’s what’s the most troubling about this war, is that it now appears like the US Administration is buying into what they’ve been selling voters and are just following whatever Israel wants to do. That’s a marked difference in how we’ve handled that relationship previously
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TraceSpazer2 days ago
+52
Israel has never been on America's team.
52
Remmon2 days ago
+86
American of course, the Israeli boots are busy genociding and annexing the region around them.
86
TrumpDesWillens2 days ago
+6
Israeli, by which that means Israeli assets. So, US.
6
chamrockblarneystone2 days ago
+4
“They will no longer be laughing.” His threats are getting weaker and weaker.
4
Stokesmyfire2 days ago
+58
I hope Israel realizes the Iran doesn’t import uranium, they have their own mines. At some point Iran will have a nuclear weapon, the agreement to prevent it was negotiated and signed by a black man who wore a tan suit…
58
Settra_Rulez2 days ago
+23
They’re referring to the enriched uranium buried in fordow.
23
Stokesmyfire2 days ago
+9
Of course but if they have their own reserves they can keep enriching….that is all I am saying. Israel will probably drop the bomb in Iran…
9
HoneyBadger5522 days ago
+7
american boots. not israeli
7
charlizerox2 days ago
+6
Imagine all that enriched uranium Iran has just sitting there waiting to be stolen?
6
DubiousAdviceGiver2 days ago
+7
I met an Israeli dude in Honduras last week. I straight up asked, “what do you think of Bibi?” He spit on the ground and said, “we hate that m***********! That’s why I live here! In HONDURAS!”
7
Kevin-W2 days ago
+9
Anything to keep him from returning to trial
9
FatherOften2 days ago
+137
If you've been watching, its been non stop supply chain building, moving forces to the region, and repositioning. There was never going to be a deal. The world economy is going to see a depression just from what's already been damaged in the markets. They can prop up the numbers per barrel for awhile longer, but it will correct.
137
pagerussell2 days ago
+11
>They can prop up the numbers per barrel for awhile longer, but it will correct.
Drawdown on oil reserves has been very high, and for obvious reasons cannot go on indefinitely. This is what the CEO of JP Morgan was basically saying at a week ago. If this goes on much longer we will get price increases until demand destruction.
11
synthdrunk2 days ago
+26
Oligarchs had decided to kill the petrodollar a while ago, they’re getting their wish. Digital scrip in corpo-states here we come.
26
denNISI2 days ago
+4
So much truth!
4
4uk4ata2 days ago
+2
Prop it until the midterms, then blame democrats.
2
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+32
They both want to resume.the war. But some angel close to Trump is managing to make him fear the likely consequences of doing so.
I wonder for how long...
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xterminatr2 days ago
+83
It's not some angel whispering in his ear, it's the fact that we were running out of munitions to keep bombing them with while also protecting our assets. Trump jumped head first into this conflict completely unprepared because the whole administration is blatantly incompetent.
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+25
I'll believe a lot of things before I believe Trump changed his mind based on facts.
Someone at some point convinced him things would not go as he wished. To me that's an angel.
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xterminatr2 days ago
+33
I don't think he's changed his mind, I think we're logistically unable to continue attacking or we would be. Wars aren't won by just blowing stuff up, they are won by supply chains, and we have nothing remotely capable of supplying a consistent stream of weapons, diesel, food, troops, etc. across the world when no allies will help us. Many empires have learned this the hard way..
33
ceelogreenicanth2 days ago
+17
How could that be true? Whiskey Pete said wars are won by maximum lethality?
17
billzybop2 days ago
+12
The German's were super lethal in WW2. American logistics beat them.
12
ceelogreenicanth2 days ago
+11
We killed a lot of Vietnamese, but it cost them less to supply, and it cost us too much to try and stop them. It turns out killing people doesn't end wars and the wrong lessons were learned from WWII. The military did do it's best to adapt but it never learned how to fight ideology. Now we have idiots that think the issue is we didn't go medieval.
11
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+9
You make a great point. Trump's last gambit, codenamed Project Freedom, lasted less than 24h.
It was leaked that the reason was UAE dennying use of their air space for said operation.
9
chamrockblarneystone2 days ago
+8
Well this Angel, could just explain to him like he’s five, that none of this is going as he expected.
It must be very satisfying watching Trump becoming more and more frustrated every day. Up close I mean.
8
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+3
It's an angel not a god.
3
PoliticsIsDepressing2 days ago
+5
Nah. I believe he’s not jumping back into it due to oil skyrocketing and the market in general tanking.
5
sisyphus_of_dishes2 days ago
+3
I'd add that we likely ran out of obvious things to blow up. THe administration couldn't stop talking about how they achieved all their "military objectives" and started talking about attacking civilian infrastructure right before the cease fire. The bully ran out of kids to steal lunch money from and is afraid to look for bigger kids to bully
3
Paetolus2 days ago
+25
Probably Rubio. He strikes me as the only somewhat competent member of the admin. Not that it means much considering how low the bar is. But he's probably scared that this'll kill his chances in 2028.
25
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+16
We can only guess, but that's a good one. Rubio is more of a LATAM hawk not a Middle East Hawk.
The other option is Vance but I doubt Trump listens to him.
My guess is that some high ranking general is the angel here.
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Sea-Maybe-99792 days ago
+13
Vance may be incompetent, but he's bought and paid for by Peter Thiel, and he didn't spend all that time and effort for Vance to he a half term senator and 1-and-done VP. Vance has always been against the war and so maybe he's affective as backing vocals to Rubio.
13
LightDarkBeing2 days ago
+6
Towards the end of 2026, I bet dollars to donuts, that JDV will start talking about 25th’ng Trump out because if this war. Especially if the republicans lose both houses in the midterms.
6
Naktura2 days ago
+12
Ya but the hope for republicans getting swept is getting dimmer and dimmer with every SC decision throwing out Democrat redistricting.
12
ylfcm2 days ago
+5
His chanced were ruined the day he agreed to join team trump
5
Plastic-Fox02932 days ago
+5
They gonna do whatever will make his oligarchy cronies richest.
5
Leading-Onion46592 days ago
+40
Netanyahu would’ve ordered Trump to reject the deal so that they can resume the war.
40
BOPSurfcasting2 days ago
+23
Netanyahu managed to con Trump into attacking Iran, left Trump holding the bag and dipped.
Well played Netanyahu, well played indeed.
23
Libinky2 days ago
+21
It does not take much to play our fool!
21
Little_View_66592 days ago
+2
That can’t be true! A guy last night told me Trump isnt an idiot at all but a total genius and that “you people” just don’t understand.
2
BestFriendWatermelon2 days ago
+2
As if Trump or the apocalypse-cult hawks on his team needed much convincing...
2
FragrantExcitement2 days ago
+3
The war is already over. This is the sequel.
3
KuivaPorkkana2 days ago
+2
I read from the internet: "They've abandoned numbered releases and switched to live service model with seasonal events."
2
Some_Drummer_Guy2 days ago
+2
He's gotta check in with his other dad to ask if it's ok.
2
peffer322 days ago
+762
It's Sunday. Time to rig the market again.
762
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+300
1. WE WILL DESTROY A CIVILIZATION!
2. Buy, buy, buy.
3. WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO A DEAL
4. Sell, sell, sell.
5. WE WILL DESTROY A CIVILIZATION
Week after week, and it works. Every. Single. Time.
300
tonycomputerguy2 days ago
+126
Those of us who learn from history are doomed to watch f****** idiots repeat it anyway.
126
rockmasterflex2 days ago
+19
In this case the idiots are the people who keep believing that these statements are real and selling. Like when I buy up all these dips? That means some other clown is out there who believes this is “real” and selling it to me at that dip
19
RoundishWaterfall2 days ago
+10
Thing is, even if you know that he’s bullshitting - it doesn’t even matter. You act based on how you think other people will react. But those other people are doing the same thing you are. Over time the volatility decreases but you still see the same fluctuations.
10
rockmasterflex2 days ago
+1
You're describing prediction markets, which have no basis in reality, vs the stock market, which has at least SOME basis in economic reality. If the underlying economies are not actually impacted by Trump's stupid lies, then there's no reason to sell at the dip.
1
RoundishWaterfall2 days ago
+5
If you believe that a lie will cause other people to sell or buy, of course that impacts you.
5
Infamous-Introverts2 days ago
+2
Could not have said it better. 80 plus years to learn from, with the almost identical descent in madness and still people are "shocked".. Kills me
2
jpharber2 days ago
+4
Ehh it’s been pretty much a straight line up since the “ceasefire” deal was announced.
4
jockfist50002 days ago
+3
It’s like balancing a very tall jenga tower at this point, and we know how that usually ends up.
3
Ecureuil022 days ago
+3
Why was this removed?
3
ignatious__reilly2 days ago
+134
Iran is never giving back the Strait or giving up their nuclear enrichment and centrifuges
This isn’t happening. Trump will be lucky to even get back a percentage of Obama’s original deal.
He’s a moron
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iFlashings2 days ago
+63
Trump doesn't give a shit about reaching a deal with Iran or stopping this war. This is just an excuse to make bank illegally from stock market manipulation.
63
rabidstoat2 days ago
+11
I think he cares about the deal, in that he'd love to be able to trumpet about getting a better deal than Obama.
11
fiction82 days ago
+2
If he keeps this war going through to November the Republicans might be facing a Democratic supermajority come next year.
No shot he's willing to risk that, even for personal gain.
2
Jerri_man2 days ago
+3
Has this been alienating his voter base? Asking genuinely I am not American and all I see online is the occasional news post here, or on instagram with some cultish supporting comments.
3
fiction82 days ago
+2
High gas prices are pretty much the only thing that will actually upset the average American. Particularly the disengaged middle.
If gas prices are high during an election then there is a near 0% chance of whoever is in charge doing well.
2
Plastic-Fox02932 days ago
+14
Well the US proved to Iran that it needs nukes to stop the US from invading it.
So yeah so much for 40 years of delicate talks.
14
MaybeTheDoctor2 days ago
+4
My reading of the market over the past week is that it doesn’t care anymore.
4
Yelworc02422 days ago
+185
Who could have foreseen this apart from every single person on the planet...
185
propergreased2 days ago
+27
We’re all looking for the guy who did this
27
KristinnK2 days ago
+16
To be fair to Trump Iran wants sanctions to be lifted without quitting their nuclear program, war reparations when they've themselves been bombing random non-aggressor countries, and "full sovereignty" over the strait, basically the ability to blackmail international shipping, which is very explicitly banned by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea.
This one has got to be on Iran, doesn't matter who is on the other side, these aren't even remotely reasonable demands.
16
gw2master2 days ago
+2
(1) They'd be fools to give up their nuclear weapons program: it's the only way to stop bullies like Russia, Israel, and the US.
(2) Reparations is 100% reasonable. We attacked them for no valid reason. We should pay.
(3) They've bombed countries who have US bases in them: totally fair game. Plus, without the nukes version of MAD, their only way to defend themselves from bullies is the economy version of MAD.
(4) There shouldn't be a toll, but realistically, at this point, there's going to be one. Israel and US should pay that toll for everyone who goes through the strait.
Apart from #4, hese are all very reasonable demands.
2
Hextopia2 days ago
+8
* 1 Their constant drive for nuclear weapons is most of the reason they're an international pariah, and it will only *increase* the likelihood they get attacked again, not lessen it.
* 2 They haven't paid reparations to anyone they've been unprovoked attacking for decades through terrorist intermediaries, why would anyone pay them for returning the favor?
* 3 They've bombed random civilian targets throughout those countries. Your point here would only be valid if they actually made a remote attempt to target actual military targets.
* 4 We agree that a toll is a wild idea.
8
whatsgoingon3502 days ago
+108
Wonder how Tuesday will go?
108
gjiorkiie2 days ago
+75
threaten Armageddon on Monday. peace deal on Tuesday i believe is the gist of it.
75
IncomingAxofKindness2 days ago
+29
Not a peace deal.
Concepts of a peace deal and 72 hour pause on Armageddon.
29
What-a-Crock2 days ago
+8
Anything to distract from Epstein
8
runner_tri2 days ago
+20
TACO of course. Add a side dish of NACHO
20
Grow_away_4202 days ago
+5
They'll refine that 1 page plan down to a couple sentences. We're so close, dont you feel it?!?! Get your trades in
5
IncomingAxofKindness2 days ago
+2
“We’ve sent Iran a tweeted meme of Trump carrying all their nuclear dust back to America. We expect them to like or retweet it any moment now.”
2
ProfessionalNo59322 days ago
+197
If you go back and look at articles posted since the cease fire, it’s always toward end of week/ weekend when this shit U.S. published. The whole thing is a f****** game for president Narrcy. Fulfilling his deep, narcissistic feelings toward others.
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RedPepperWhore2 days ago
+24
Every friday: Maybe peace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Every monday: Definitely angry war! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
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HuanFranThe1st2 days ago
+2
Sometimes maybe peace, sometimes maybe war
2
No_Flounder_78742 days ago
+33
Mar 3: War won.
Mar 7: Iran defeated.
Mar 9: Must attack Iran; war is ending beautifully.
Mar 12: Won, but not completely.
Mar 13: War won (again).
Mar 14: Please help us.
Mar 15: Help us or I’ll hold a grudge.
Mar 16: Don't need help; NATO will suffer for not helping.
Mar 17: Don't want NATO; leaving NATO.
Mar 18: Allies must open the Strait.
Mar 19: Allies need to get a grip.
Mar 20: NATO are cowards.
Mar 21: Don't need the Strait; let it stay closed.
Mar 22: 48 hours left; Iran is dead.
Mar 23: Giving them more time.
Mar 24: Nearing the end.
Mar 25: Negotiating.
Mar 26: Iran gave us a gift; giving them more time.
Mar 27: Talks going great.
Mar 28: War over soon.
Mar 29: Maybe we take Kharg Island, maybe we don’t.
Mar 30: Open the Strait or we obliterate everything.
Mar 31: We have plenty of oil; get your own, UK.
April 1: Iran wants peace / Leaving NATO / No deal.
April 2: US destroyers flatten the B1 Bridge; "It came tumbling down... much more to follow!"
April 3: Let’s just take their oil and make a fortune.
April 5: Open the damn Strait or you're living in hell.
April 6: We should charge a toll for the Strait.
April 7: A civilization dies tonight.
April 8: Ceasefire! Strait open! (Strait immediately closes)
April 9: NATO has days to fix this.
April 10: Iran has no cards.
April 11: We’re opening it ourselves.
April 12: We’re blockading it ourselves.
April 12: The president posts an AI image of himself as Jesus healing the sick; deletes it hours later.
April 13: The president claims he thought the AI image was a Red Cross doctor.
April 15: The president reposts a new AI image of Jesus hugging him; calls it "quite nice."
April 16: Told NATO to stay away; they were useless.
April 17: Iran promised to stay open. (Iran closes it)
April 18: Might start dropping bombs again.
April 19: Sign the deal or get blown up.
April 20: Blockade stays until their nukes are gone.
April 23: Strait is closed because NATO is weak.
April 26: 14-point deal offered; it’s a bad deal.
April 29: Blockade stays until I say so.
April 30: Their economy is toast; might take more islands.
May 1: Get your own oil; I’m fine.
May 3: "Project Freedom" announced on Truth Social.
May 4: Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are "furious"; they block US airspace and ground "Project Freedom."
May 5: A direct call with MBS fails; "Project Freedom" collapses.
May 5: President says it is "paused" due to "Great Progress."
May 6: 16 US bases "severely damaged" (Leak); "Operation Trust Me Bro" (Iran mockery).
May 7: Remove mines IMMEDIATELY or suffer "unseen" consequences.
May 7: US strikes two locations; president calls it a "love tap" and insists ceasefire is still in effect.
May 8: President announces "Project Freedom Plus" (the sequel); strikes Iranian tankers to "protect the ceasefire."
May 9: President leaves for China to meet with Xi; declares the war "stalled" but totally under control.
May 10: Iran sends response to peace deal; president says we are "closer than ever" while drone strikes hit three neighboring countries.
May 10: President threatens Iran with "the heaviest bombing anyone has ever seen," then predicts "it'll all work out."
May 10: President rejects Iranian response; accuses Tehran of "playing games" for 50 years and adds, "They will be laughing no longer!"
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Educational_Cut73792 days ago
+72
He claims he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize, which is ridiculous.
72
Kevadu2 days ago
+44
But he has declared more ceasefires (that all failed, but let's ignore that part) than anyone in history!
44
Educational_Cut73792 days ago
+8
I don't know, but isn't trying to provoke someone and calm them down again an act?
8
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+13
Can't believe a FIFA Peace Prize w***** would do such a thing.
13
Raintitan2 days ago
+12
I wish the Nobel Committee would create a Loser prize and award it to him. I can only dream.
12
TenchuReddit2 days ago
+15
The Nobel Prize in Narcissism.
The medal will feature a shot of himself giving a medal to himself.
15
Plastic-Fox02932 days ago
+3
He says the opposite of what's true. It's his main strategy.
3
Raspberries-Are-Evil2 days ago
+179
The BEST case is Trump gets back into the same deal as the JCPOA and takes credit for it, but it will never happen. Iran has zero reason to trust the US and Trump least of all.
Its UNREAL that Republicans allowed this to happen. They should have impeached and convicted his ass the moment the first bomb dropped.
179
imacyco2 days ago
+135
They have all 3 branches of government and are actively working to swing the mid-terms their way. Almost every major company and big political donor has bent the knee.
They didn't allow it, this is the plan.
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RiPPeR694202 days ago
+33
That's the great thing about having someone in power who only cares about maximizing next quarter's profits and isn't afraid to cheat in power. If you have the system rigged, YOU will make money. Alot of it. Even if the market crashes. The US economy is operating on the same logic as KKR or Bain Capital. There is a lot of money in a bankruptcy if you know how to manage one. And Trump made alot of money on the way down on all of his bankruptcies.
33
doc_daneeka2 days ago
+19
>Its UNREAL that Republicans allowed this to happen. They should have impeached and convicted his ass the moment the first bomb dropped.
How is it unreal? When has the Republican party ever, ever taken any real step to reign in a Republican President's warmongering ambition? Even with Nixon they didn't give a shit about that, and only got skittish when domestic scandal reared it's head
19
peon22 days ago
+33
Can we stop with this impeachment bullshit? He's already been impeached twice, it does nothing. He should be removed from office.
33
ary314152 days ago
+18
> impeached and convicted
The conviction is the part that removes him from office
18
SomeBaldDude20132 days ago
+11
It takes up his time and draws attention to his fuckery
11
spez_eats_nazi_ass2 days ago
+28
And it stresses him which helps rally the clot.
28
rabidstoat2 days ago
+4
Rally 'round the clot?
4
needlestack2 days ago
+2
And every one of his supporters see the impeachment, arrest, conviction, and attempts on his life as proof positive he is the chosen one. They take persecution as holy light. It’s the foundation of their religion after all.
2
peon22 days ago
+4
It takes up his time how? He didn't attend either of his impeachment hearings.
4
SomeBaldDude20132 days ago
+7
It ties Congress' hands and prevents them from doing shit like trying to pass the SAVE Act.
7
needlestack2 days ago
+5
They should have convicted him for J6. Absolute and complete failure of America that he didn’t and up in prison for that. And he has successfully led the Republican Party to be complete election denialists. Therefore any amount of cheating is OK with them. Most Americans haven’t faced it yet. The flywheel keeps things going. But America is a failed state.
5
cool_lemons2 days ago
+4
The unreal part is that Americans keep reelecting Republicans when they keep doing the same shi*t.
4
Honourable_hank2 days ago
Sorry, they're all too busy making insider trades to be bothered with stupid things like.. morals and honour. Please just leave your comment in the over stuffed suggestion box and be on your way so they can go back to making all that sweet, sweet dollar off your backs.
0
ProjectNo40902 days ago
+10
Iran's never going to accept what Trump wants and Trump is never going to accept what Iran wants.
10
tun3man2 days ago
+238
Trump raped children!
Release the Epstein files!
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Colmd19972 days ago
+27
1.) Announce negotiations to drive the price of oil down
2.) Both sides risk the ceasefire by having small skirmishes
3.) Make social media post rejecting the negotiations in a grandiose way to drive the price of oil back up
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Clovis422 days ago
+5
Anyone who falls for the first one kinda' deserves the rug pull.
5
yeungx2 days ago
+31
This is not surprising at all. We are not even close to the amount of negotiation that needs to happen for anything resembling a cease fire. Realistically these negotiation happen on the time span of years. not weeks. The Obama deal, the deal trump tore up like it was nothing, took 30 month to negotiate. So the idea that we can have a cease fire, even if both side wants one, in weeks is nonsensical.
They can't even figure out how to agree on a 1 page memorandum on what to talk about in the future.
Iran is not stupid. They see the poll numbers, Republican is gonna lose the midterms, or they would have to rig it so egregiously, it would trigger mass unrest if not a civil war. Either way, US is gonna have way bigger things to worry about in a couple of month. In fact keeping oil prices high is a key factor in that unravelling of American democracy. So they have no incentive to go to the table. Iran think it might actually out last America itself, and they might be right.
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wocka-jocka-blocka2 days ago
+15
Iran is gonna drag any kind of real agreement WAY out past the midterm elections ... because Trump is the person responsible for decapitating the leadership of their country. And we shouldn't forget it. Iran is making him--and by extension, US--take it in the shorts economically, and they have no reason to let up until Trump suffers a real defeat in November. Iran knows he just can't start dropping bombs again (though he'll continually threaten to do so), he just doesn't have any popular support. And every bomb he drops just reminds Americans that he has no control over this thing HE STARTED.
15
cruelsensei2 days ago
+19
>Iran think it might actually out last America itself, and they might be right.
The CIA agrees. They reported to Congress that they estimate Iran can hold out for at least another 4-5 months. The massive price increases for fuel, food, and just about everything else, will hit the US in about 2 months. How long will Americans tolerate gas prices over $8 and food prices up 50% or more?
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traitorgiraffe2 days ago
+6
americans cant even handle a f****** donut being out of stock before they start swinging at minimum wage workers
6
Plastic-Fox02932 days ago
+5
As long as their maga leaders tell them to because oil comes from dr Donald Christs miraculous ass
Like, does it matter? They're a cult. they will be fine with everything they're told to be fine with and all the pain they'll just happily blame on everyone else.
5
surg3on2 days ago
+2
He doesnt have years left. He knows it, we know it, Iran knows it. Everyone just keeps pretending though.
2
JohnBPrettyGood2 days ago
+5
Trump strongly supported Ukraine giving up land to Russia in his 28 point peace proposal.
How much of Manhattan will Trump be willing to cede to Iran to ensure a lasting peace?
5
brokeboipobre2 days ago
+6
We already won the war. Trump said it like 20 times now. Thank you for your attention on this matter.
6
Powerful_Company_6822 days ago
+5
So this is like the GOP sponsored border bill that got bipartisan support and then they killed it themselves when Trump was upset because it wouldn't help him get any credit?
5
bored_ryan22 days ago
+3
Ultimately, if they make a deal, yes. It’s the “Barack Hussein Obama’s Iran deal was bad. Mine is the best ever.” But it will be objectively and significantly worse.
But currently, its about market manipulation and shoveling government money into the pockets of his cronies, be it defense contractors, or the developers of the now proposed $1 billion in funding for the “East Wing Security Projects” aka the Ball Room.
3
singed_hearth2 days ago
+12
Bruh, I’m tired. Please, please stop making my life worse by making these terrible decisions. Please.
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No_Plenty55262 days ago
+2
right. like there goes my hope of ever affording a vacation in my adult life
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BOPSurfcasting2 days ago
+12
Trump keeps trash talking the 2015 Obama nuclear deal which called for Iran to stop uranium enrichment for 15 years, but then offers a deal where Iran has to stop enrichment for 20 years. He basically offered Iran the same deal.
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Sp0rk3122 days ago
+4
Iran should just say sure, but it has to be the original JCOPA, and you have to call it Obamas nuclear deal.
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iAMguppy2 days ago
+11
The public deserves to understand what ARE acceptable conditions for a war we didn’t want, promised wouldn’t happen, and has made day-to-day economic conditions worse and less predictable.
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redgrandam2 days ago
+12
Feels like we are stuck in a loop of stupidity. Groundhog Day style.
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redbackground12 days ago
+13
Well…f***.
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Not_Cleaver2 days ago
+21
Don’t worry there will be a ceasefire sometime next week. And then we’ll bomb then again over the weekend, just love taps. And rinse and repeat until $10/gallon.
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redbackground12 days ago
+3
I don’t like this back and forth..I can’t take much more boss😭
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Orposer2 days ago
+31
Did we expect anything else? Trump's boss announced that he the war can not end until the uranium is removed. So war will continue.
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teebird_phreak2 days ago
+4
On Friday they will claim they have a deal and by the following Sunday the war is back on
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DukeOfMaple2 days ago
+4
Let me guess. He didn't read this one either?
4
ThinkItThrough482 days ago
+11
Maybe just send Iran the old Obama deal and see if they will go for it
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PM_Your_Best_Ideas2 days ago
+4
It's too late for that, Iran has been activated. You don't just bomb a school with 150 children then get to say sorry and walk away. This is costing the USA millions everyday until they remove Trump.
4
No_Rain85122 days ago
+4
Well let's try again next week, preferably after all the insiders have taken good positions in the market!
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supercali452 days ago
+5
What’s the stock market doing tomorrow? Pumped all week last week
5
Pardot422 days ago
+5
What the f*** ever. Release the Epstein files, arrest Epsteins best friend
5
Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+3
Don't worry, the next proposal will end up in the exact same way.
3
Raspberries-Are-Evil2 days ago
+3
Trump can't articulate what IS acceptable.
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Wiggles692 days ago
+3
Setting aside the blatant market manipulation - it's pretty clear that Trumps 'Art of the deal' is, and always has been, just belligerently applying maximum pressure until the other side folds (which is why any time the negotiations get some sort of traction with compromise trump just smacks it down with a tweet) or he gets bored and wanders off.
Well this time, he can't just wander off and the other side is very much prepared to endure a whole heap more pain than he is.
This is going to be very painful exercise for all of us as Trump either comes up with a way to drop the whole thing without looking like moron (difficult), or is forced to accept a ball crushingly embarrassing deal when the US actually starts to feel the results of the oil crisis (i.e. fuel shortages and the economy slowing) as both his base and billionaire supports all start screaming at him to do something, anything to stop the economy falling into recession.
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redmambo_no62 days ago
+8
Of course he will because it doesn’t benefit him
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Leading-Onion46592 days ago
+10
The only country on this planet benefitting from Iran war is Israel.
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Kevadu2 days ago
+11
Hey, don't forget Russia
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urbanhawk12 days ago
+8
China benifits from US weakening global power and being the world leader in renewable tech while oil tanks.
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Annual-Reason29702 days ago
+2
they denied the 1b deposit into his personal account..
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Grow_away_4202 days ago
+5
Wow it wasn't even a 5 days ago we were closing in on a 1 page peace plan. Almost like everything coming out of the US and Pakistan is utter bullshit
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+11
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Powerful_Rub_40512 days ago
+4
Oh great so markets are fucked tomorrow again
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CyroSwitchBlade2 days ago
+2
but we already have a ceasefire tho..
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Hold_My_Cheese2 days ago
+2
How can he manipulate the market if they comply?
2
Shirolicious2 days ago
+2
Rejection upon rejection. Endless cycle?
2
Bouldur2 days ago
+2
The proposal probably contains very difficult words.
2
Dependent_Guard9032 days ago
+2
Yeah this guy needs to be ousted immediately. He is a threat to humanity
2
Sir-Spazzal2 days ago
+2
Maybe trump should have led with negotiations since his art of the deal seems to be failing, again.
2
GodOfBoy82 days ago
+2
Unites sates of Israel. Bibi wants him to continue fighting Israel's war
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locomocotive2 days ago
+7
I think the Iranian response should be made public. It’s probably totally reasonable. And now back to war for no reason. There is no reason not to make it public.
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BoneZone052 days ago
+1
Trump should speak with them in person if he’s so tough… actually, they should organize that immediately!
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Bouldur2 days ago
+3
Preferably in Teheran…
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epanek2 days ago
+3
Trump avoids giving details so he safely settle on the Obama deal
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hartbeast2 days ago
+4
All for show here folks while our rights are stripped away. Big business racks in gourds of money. Now they are just stealing our tax dollars and social security.
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Curmudgeonadjacent2 days ago
+3
The most dangerous clown show on earth.
3
analyticaljoe2 days ago
+3
This is why you listen to people who tell you things that you don't want to hear.
The Iranian regime is an evil regime; but that does not mean that a few months of an air and naval campaign is going to change that? Nope.
You know that someone tried to tell this administration that. You know they did not listen.
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KMRcanada2 days ago
+4
F**K him - soooo f****** tired of the bullshit
4
thenelil2 days ago
+3
Sadly this puts the world in a really bad place because Trump does not want to surrender, Iran doesn’t want to surrender and will world bleeds because of it. The only way US will take a surrender deal if Congress forces him to, and that leaves, Congress or the people voted for it holding the bag. I don’t think no congressman is willing to take that risk/liability because their opponent will use that agains them in the next election.
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pornAndMusicAccount2 days ago
+5
\>Congress forces him to
Hahahahahahahahhaaaaaahhhaaaaa…. \[breathes\] ….hahahahhahahahhahahahhhahahahahahhahah
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thenelil2 days ago
+5
That was my point. They’re not going to because they will risk everything to do it. They’re gonna let him bleed himself and destroy his reputation with his base and the world is gonna be worse all for it.
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CORRUPT272 days ago
+2
Please.please please. Whatever they agree on please let one of the requirements be a pallet of cash dropped in iran. Embarrassing the shit out of the yellow turd
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Jibber_Fight2 days ago
+2
“Blah blah blah blah!!!! I’m not listening!!!!”
— Art of the Deal.
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Inevitable_Butthole2 days ago
+2
US is Isreals b****, how embarrassing
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Hayseussforever2 days ago
+2
How about reinstating the agreement that the Obama administration negotiated with Iran. This is something to which Iran already agreed, it made it clear that Iran was not seeking a nuclear weapon, allowed peaceful use of nuclear energy with inspections, and allowed free access to shipping. If not for the unimaginable stupidity of Trump, we would have been operating under the Obama-era agreement and a few fewer deaths would have occurred. US expenditures and the upheaval to the US economy would have been avoided. There might actually have been enough money saved to allow President Stupid to build a ballroom somewhere. While I know President Stupid never would agree to it, it would be perhaps a way to settle things to appoint (if he would accept it) President Obama as special envoy (instead of a couple of out-of- their-league real estate investors) to negotiate a reinstatement of the original agreement. Wishful thinking?
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crazy_akes2 days ago
+2
I told my daughter she had to eat 3 pieces of broccoli if she wanted dessert. She slammed my proposal as totally unacceptable.
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BrainRobotron2 days ago
+2
Obviously going to reject it. The market is closed.
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