If it was full capitulation to American demands that would have been the headline. A response is almost certainly them reiterating the same points they've been making, including no nuclear transfer and control of the strait
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Mr_Doubtful3 days ago
+93
Doesn’t mean it won’t be spun for a nice market open on Monday.
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claimstoknowpeople3 days ago
+37
Oh it absolutely will be. In just about any other context though people would understand the response wasn't positive. "My crush *responded* to my request for a date."
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EanBvasion3 days ago
+17
“Iran and United States MINUTES away from deal”
\-Axios probably.
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BendicantMias2 days ago
+6
The Barak Ravid special!
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ianjm3 days ago
+2
Iranians betting all that crypto they've been charging for passage on Polymarket right now
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+5
Maximalist demands on both sides. Soon it will be June.
This is not going well.
Negotiated peace is better than unconditional surrender. But huge egos would be hurt in the process.
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whiterice_3433 days ago
+13
This will be a continued eternal loop for the next few months.
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limevince2 days ago
+2
Awesome, literally only costs over $1billion/day
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Romantic_Klingon3 days ago
+69
US Proposal: Give us what we want
Iran's response: No! Here's our counter-proposal, give us what we want
And thus, another week until the next round of dance
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supercyberlurker3 days ago
+134
According to the article, the ceasefire has been for over a month now.
I don’t think “ceasefire” has any value anymore.
The word “ceasefire” has been enshittified.
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fromkatain3 days ago
+32
In korea there is also a ceasefire
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Several-Opposite-7463 days ago
+15
In the Koreas, the did cease firing.
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CarRamRob3 days ago
+6
Yeah but they aren’t blowing up ships and sending missles against each other every other day
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Responsible-Crew-3543 days ago
+3
How do the daily rates of fire in these two
“ceasefires” compare?
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Wheres_my_wank_sock3 days ago
+9
More like cessation of all out hostilities. Now it's more of a d*** measuring tit for tat.
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ADP_God3 days ago
+5
I mean they're still attacking the gulf states. Kinda hostile...
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EnderDragoon3 days ago
+5
If any firing is happening, then it is not a ceasefire. It is now just another word to manipulate markets.
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BendicantMias2 days ago
+3
They attack when the US does something, like 'Operation Freedom', to break the status quo. Hell from their perspective the US blockade is itself a violation. And they'd be right, since a blockade is an act of war. Nevertheless they let that slide, but it'd be silly to let even more slide.
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Local-Friendship81663 days ago
+8
You keep saying this word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
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MetalBawx3 days ago
+3
[Here's a leaked copy of the Iranian response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOYBWwmcXeg).
I suspect this ceasefire will be as meaningful as the last 20.
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ismynamedan2 days ago
+3
God dammit Listnook got me again. At least it wasn’t Rick Astley
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brutaljackmccormick2 days ago
+1
One man's ceasefire is another man's stalemate.
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xeyedcomrade2 days ago
+1
About as much as freedom and liberty means.
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limevince2 days ago
+1
trump believed he could force a one-way cease fire (By killing them all) but underestimated their ability to fire back.
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Mana_Seeker3 days ago
+29
Excerpt
DUBAI/WASHINGTON, May 10 (Reuters) - Iran has sent its response to a U.S. proposal to begin peace talks to end the war, Iranian state media reported on Sunday, as two carriers were allowed to pass through the blockaded Strait of Hormuz.
The response, sent to mediator Pakistan, focused on ending the war on all fronts, especially Lebanon, and on the safety of shipping through the strait, Iranian state TV said, without indicating how or when the vital waterway might reopen.
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zombiekoalas3 days ago
+38
"Especially Lebanon" aaaaand Israel has their way to keep the US locked into the war.
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jews4beer3 days ago
-49
Makes you wonder why Iran would insist an end to the fight against Hezbollah? It's almost like they are an Iranian proxy who has been attacking Israel since the weeks after October 7th, and are actively breaking the ceasefire they signed to by not disengaging behind the Litani river.
But sure, it's Israel who is solely responsible and locking America in.
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exotrader50003 days ago
+37
Yeah whatever, it's not our problem. We don't want to fight your war anymore. You act like we give a f*** for some reason but those victim days are over.
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jews4beer3 days ago
-38
Ok fine, you can think that. But that's a very different thing from saying "It's all Israel's fault". Say you don't give a shit about us, fine. Talk bullshit, and that's when you just piss people off more.
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IAmSpartacustard3 days ago
+33
No one gives a f*** if youre mad, just so you know
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jews4beer3 days ago
-32
Sure. But it's funny all the talk about how Israel radicalizes other populations by their actions. Ya know, the excuse used to say "why Gazans trust Hamas, etc, etc."
Well it cuts both ways. The constant rocket attacks and braindead Iranian soundbites getting regurgitated in the west produce the same effect in Israel. You need both sides to change to see peace.
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Loleczekkk3 days ago
+19
Well especially the stronger side here which is Israel.. maybe at least stop all the disgusting settler stuff in the west bank that would be nice
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messenger183 days ago
-9
Israel will stop doing that when Iran stops funding Proxies in most Middle east countries or when Trump starts telling the truth.
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+7
No they won't. Those 'Greater Israel' patches used by your soldiers are not fashion statements.
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distinctidiot2 days ago
+1
Israel will find another excuse, really wish the West just sanctioned both sides and let the religious nut cases in that region fight it out, it really does not feels like America's job to police that region anymore.
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Infinitedeveloper2 days ago
If it was about hezbollah why shell villages that were strongly anti hezbollah?
I say were, because lord knows how being displaced from your home will radicalized people.
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
-1
Every Hezbollah fighter today was once a Palestinian child being terrorized by Israel.
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lolofaf3 days ago
+9
Wait they sent the actual aircraft carriers through the straight? I thought (assumed) it was just destroyers (that may have been part of the carrier strike group). Sending the carriers through sounds like a great way to lose a few billions dollars very quickly lol
Edit: it was two destroyers, not carriers, that went through. Assuming you're referencing this from a couple days ago: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/2-us-navy-destroyers-transit-strait-of-hormuz-after-dodging-iranian-onslaught/
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MockTurt133 days ago
+5
...cargo/oil/fish/lng carriers perhaps. who the eff knows...
...basically just another groundhog day in the strait "blockade"
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
>response to a U.S. proposal to begin peace talks
This will take forever.
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JarvisModeOn3 days ago
+7
Feels like both sides are trying to avoid looking weak while also trying to avoid a wider disaster. That's usually how conflicts drag on way longer than anyone expected.
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Unethical_PI3 days ago
+13
Wouldn’t it be funny if Iran demanded that Trump release the Epstein files?
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JellyButterPeanu12 days ago
+5
We'd personally deliver Iran nukes before that'd happened
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abraxasnl3 days ago
+11
Nuts!
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Wentil2 days ago
+4
Since there was no “GOT EEM” from the US side, it seems to have been another set of clear instructions on how to insert a grenade up the rectum. 🤔
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Boognish843 days ago
+13
Hopefully another Lego video
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Jinm4093 days ago
+17
If their response was “NUTS!” I would literally die from laughter.
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IrememberXenogears3 days ago
+1
This is what i came to comment
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tmotytmoty3 days ago
+4
Just in case everyone is wondering **June** is the deadline before things change dramatically for everyone
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TheEagleDied3 days ago
+21
Every month the date keeps on getting pushed back. Are you as sick of these analysts as I am?
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Glanzick_Reborn3 days ago
+7
I've been hearing "in two weeks" from everyone. It's like they're learning from Trump.
Not saying that shit won't break, but shit will hit the fan when it hits the fan. I don't own a car, so I guess I'll settle for everything getting more expensive; which it does anyways.
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Bluemanze3 days ago
+9
June is when global reserves start hitting state mandated and/or operational minimums at the current draw rate (they are lawfully required to keep X in reserve, or they can't pump anymore out of the reserve without damaging it).
When the planet is introduced to a scenario that has never happened before, you should expect experts to be wrong in the beginning and projections to get more refined and accurate over time as we get real data vs whatever models were made beforehand.
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TheEagleDied2 days ago
+2
The only thing I expect with oil is for everyone to be wrong as it’s one of the most manipulated markets out there.
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Bleatmop2 days ago
+1
That just speaks to me as to when the free market shuts down. Oil producing nations will be fine, everyone else will suffer.
The USA is an oil producing nation.
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Bluemanze2 days ago
+1
Its not that simple. We import heavy crude from outside the US to refine and export the light crude we get from fracking, since our refineries are mostly still set up for heavy crude. So we will need to engage with the global energy market regardless.
The west coast in particular is highly exposed because that side of the US is almost as dependent on middle eastern crude as Asian countries.
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OPmeansopeningposter3 days ago
+2
They said no
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Feisty_System_47512 days ago
+2
Is the response a drawing of a middle finger?
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ArmNo74632 days ago
+2
"How about no, you crazy yank b******."
As an AI altered Austin Powers meme.
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Cav8293 days ago
+5
I wonder if it was just an Ascii middle finger.
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swizzcheez3 days ago
+5
Dont be silly. UTF8 has that in four bytes.
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air_gopher2 days ago
+1
Two words
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traveltimecar3 days ago
+3
What are the odds Israel would let a ceasefire even last if one got through?
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nitsuj172 days ago
+1
If Iran holds out for control of the strait, the us might as well drag it out longer.
I think anything else is worth compromising on
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AnomalyNexus2 days ago
+1
Is it a lego video?
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d1andonly2 days ago
+1
Meaning they sent a reply.
Not that they agreed to anything, nor that they are seeking peace or otherwise. Response might have as well been “up yours”.
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limevince2 days ago
+1
Do Republican voters/MAGA even know that Obama had already signed the "Iran Nuclear deal" in which they agreed to halt their nuclear program? Things were going great until trump pulled America out of the deal, probably so he could start another war to "solve"
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