I am so confused - surely Vance isn't gonna fly 16 hours to Pakistan if the Iranians aren't gonna show up. And even if Vance doesnt go im sure Witkoff/Kushner ouldn't fly either.
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Kjata_5 days ago
+4
“*begging* for a deal”
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kananishino5 days ago
+5
This sounds just like last time when they said there was no talks going on.
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sentrypetal5 days ago
+2
Dude there are no talks, they are going back to war. Oil shortages will occur and food prices will soar. Time to face reality instead of living on hopium and copium. The stock market ran up hard on delusions any sane person could have seen.
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kananishino4 days ago
+1
So it looks like the talks are happening on Wednesday. Axios reported that "Khamanei" is allowing it.
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No_Country89225 days ago
+4
ok let me get this straight, we couldve achieved a good progress during weekend but Iraq violated the ceasefire by firing from a ship in hormuz because they blocked it again... in response to US blockade?
so it all boils down to, Iran already is ok to compromise their nuclear program and all this shit is still ongoing because Trump wants a peace of the Strait income?
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hayjay20005 days ago
+7
Not really. It's because Trump can't keep his mouth shut and has to embarrass people when they're actually TRYING to give him his off-ramp he (allegedly, which I DO NOT actually believe) wants. Aragchi tweeted the Strait was open, so what does Trump do? Claim victory and mock Iran which pissed them off so they closed it again. So then the US decided on a navel blockade, which Iran sees as a violation of the ceasefire, so now they see no reason to negotiate unless the US releases the blockade and unfreezes Iranian money. Which the US won't do because the US still thinks they won and wants Iran to just capitulate to Trump's demands.
And Iran sees they have leverage and they won and they also refuse to compromise on their demands which the US sees as non-starters too. So there's no reason to negotiate, unfortunately. Neither side is willing to compromise.
EDIT: I should point out I am from the US. Just looking at it objectively and going off what experts like Trita Parsi have said.
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L00koutQc5 days ago
+2
Did trump pass the whole month trying to get the hormuz strait opened to get it closed again by not removing his blockade!?
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Spainiswhite5 days ago
+1
do they have a concept of a plan yet?
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just_a_guy_named16815 days ago
+1
Breaking news: Attacking a country in between negotiations cause them to not negotiate further
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ScandiSom5 days ago
-2
Iran is taking big risks, Trump is likely willing to completely cripple Iran by destroying their critical infrastructure which would set them back decades in addition to permanently destabilizing the country indefinitely (aka the Lybian style), just because they don't want to make reasonable compromises.
Iran is mistaken that Trump is willing to cede some grounds because of the rising oil price. Thats not a guarantee. US oil producers have taken market share from the gulf countries and Trump isnt running for a reelection, so he's not likely to suffer in any capasity. Yes it will impact the midterms and what he can do for the remaining term as president, but this is also something that distracts from the Epstein files.
Iran is delaying negotiations to see what else they can get away with, but this is also what lead to this war, namely their inability to compromise, and its also what will further escalate the war to a point of no return.
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johnlocke3575 days ago
+1
“Trump isn’t running for reelection, so he’s not likely to suffer in any capacity”
This rule unfortunately applies to almost every action he takes.
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