Iran says talks with US will begin in Pakistan’s Islamabad on Friday

But he Truth Social’d “praise be to Allah” on Easter morning. He’s an ally to the Islamic world!

It'll be kushner most likely, the tv host president is sending his son-in-law

Kushner doesn't start with "D".

Or he will go because he agrees that Islam is bad

There’s no way he’s medically cleared to go. My guess is it’s Rubio’s turn to pretend there’s a path to a deal with what each side is bringing to the table.

You see the clip from the other day of Junior Varsity trying to call Trump??

Wdym? It's called Islam Bad, he probably thinks it's a voter meetup.

Muslim nation with a history of close ties to the US because of their strategic role in resisting the spread of Soviet communism in Central Asia during the Cold War. Lebanon and Bahrain weren’t exactly going to broker this thing because they’re too closely affiliated with the Shia Axis. The same thing could be said about the Gulf States and their general hostility towards Iran. Pakistan fit the bill as an *adequately* neutral party that both sides could accept as a mediator.

If they stop picking fights with India and Afghanistan for a bit, they'll be strong contenders for next year's FIFA peace prize.

No it actually makes sense. They are friendly with Iran but also have a defense pact with Saudi Arabia. They have credibility with both the Gulf states and Iran.

Not for no reason/USA only. Pakistan is a pretty poor nation, but it has nukes and a strong military. It also has decent ties with both the US and China. China is backing Iran less overtly than the US is backing Israel but this is still very much a US-China conflict. Pakistan is the mediator because it has a strong military and good ties with both those countries. They are also friendly with Iran so they can play the middleman better than anyone. Well Russia could probably do better but Russia's status is above that of messenger.

Pakistan, a neighbor of Iran, has nukes, has a defense pact with Saudi Arabia, has an actual modern army and population more than double of Iran but surely not that important.

They basically bankrolled his crypto stuff, and they also spent alot on lobbying in US Congress, last year they spent millions of dollars in lobbying through firms run by allies of Trump. Honestly that was a great move by Pakistan, they got significant ROI and international clout from essentially paying the US with their own money (from the IMF)

Pakistan is one of the few countries in the neighborhood that's not part of the conflict.

Don Jr. doing shady deals with them since the election

Whats crazy about it? With the history of everyone directly and indirectly involved, it makes sense. Again, explain the crazy part.

you slept through the taco doing another round of insider trading

You slept through Iran saying that ceasefires are not acceptable and they will fight until permanent peace is achieved and there are no talks with the US, to them agreeing to a ceasefire and begin talks moments before the deadline they had been given.

They have a lot of lives lost already. Also there is the economical cost plus stuff they need to rebuild.

IRGC's struggles will grow larger after ceasefire. They face a shattered economy, wrecked infrastructure, and a deeply polarised population still reeling from the January massacres. Their leadership is decimated, they are splintered, and they are infiltrated by foreign agencies. Expect power struggles and conflict inside.

If these talks go anywhere. They were in talks right before the strikes began too.

Israel isn't gonna like that.

Honest question here. Im all for hating Trump, and I do, but in this instance isnt it better that he TACOd? Otherwise the alternative was he would order severe war crimes on Iran

they don't have a navy or airforce, lost most of their land forces too militaristically and thus economically, they are FUCKED. doesn't matter what they get out of the deal ETA: can't believe I need to add this clarification For Iran, ground forces includes the IRGC members (hiding in bunkers), pro-regime Militias (are scattered), Police Forces (are joining the people against the regime) and other groups, not just the army (which doesn't work with the current "rulers" the IRGC)

Probably why the negotiating table has been set in a country outside of Iran now.

How could the US possibly trust any ceasefire or peace Iran proposes when they will have the Houthis or Hezbollah or Iraqi militias begin attacks within a week after

They didn't surrender. Their position now is a lot stronger than before.

They haven't stopped anything! Even their request tweet was a directive from the White House (check tweet history).

🤔  Their terms are hilarious. No way the US accepts them. It's an Iranian wet dream, not based in reality. 

The original offer was for them to give up the material and in exchange we would provide them with the material needed for their power needs for 10 years.

I don’t see how the US can agree to both tolls and sanctions lifted, middle ground would be either not both. IRGC knows their list is ambitious, but then again, Trump is too stupid and unreliable so who knows.

Mar 3: "We won the war." Mar 7: "We defeated Iran." Mar 9: "We must attack Iran." Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully." Mar 11: “You never like to say too ⁠early you won. We won. In the first hour it was over.” Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet." Mar 13: "We won the war." Mar 14: "Please help us." Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it." Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all." Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me." Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad." Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help." Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO." Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz." Mar 20: "NATO are cowards." Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it." Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait" Mar 22: "Iran is Dead" Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran." Mar 24: "We’re making progress." Mar 25: “They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I’m not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.” Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we’ll just keep blowing them away." Mar 27: "We don’t have to be there for NATO." Mar 28: No major quote Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences." Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing" Apr 1: "We’ll see what happens very soon." Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen." Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences. Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah." Apr 7: TACO

>turns out 'big stick' still works in the modern age. Does it? Have you actually read the Iranian demands on which negotiations will be based on? * The lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions on Iran. * Continued Iranian control over the strait of Hormuz. * US military withdrawal from the Middle East. * An end to attacks on Iran and its allies. * The release of frozen Iranian assets. * A UN security council resolution making any deal binding. This does not sound like a US victory to me, at least not yet.

We were always talking with them. That Listnook ate up Iranian propaganda is hilarious

Yeah the rhetoric here has been interesting to say the least. Commenters don’t seem to appreciate that behind the Iranian regime there are individuals who no matter how much they might believe in the cause also would probably not want to die for it. So both sides had leverage. Trump then amplified his leverage by threatening to do something so appalling but also something that would have utterly wrecked Iran. Don’t get me wrong. The actions of the US and Israel in starting this war were disgraceful. Trump as per usual is a horrible person who you can’t trust anything he says. This whole thing has been utterly devastating for millions, perhaps billions of people. There will be thousands if not millions of unattributed deaths due to the ramifications of petrochemical products being halted in the gulf. But to come back to my original point, it’s not clear that Iran even with closing the strait had the better negotiating position. Will be interesting to see what the final diplomatic outcome looks like… assuming there’s not a resumption of conflict if talks break down.

Finally a sane comment. Lots of bluster out of Tehran when one missile into Kharg Island oil infrastructure would cripple 90% of their oil exports and immediately drop their economy into the world's bottom quartile 

Indian waters, not Pakistani waters. Pakistan borders Iran, travelling should be possible without entering international waters or international airspace 

If I was Iran, I’d be asking for a series of progressively highly ranked Americans to show up at the meeting location and come hold hands with equally important Iranians before sending the next guy. Some diplomats gonna be earning their hazard pay on this one!