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Iran says US violated deal framework, calls talks unreasonable

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Iran says US violated deal framework, calls talks unreasonable
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Iran says US violated deal framework, calls talks unreasonable
Iran on Wednesday accused the U.S. of violating three clauses of its framework for a deal.
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Durzel Apr 8, 2026 +4881
12 hours is a long time in politics.
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manbeardawg Apr 8, 2026 +487
“There are decades where nothing happens and hours where decades happen” or something to that effect.
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GraduallyCthulhu Apr 9, 2026 +109
Moreover, Trump can’t tell the difference.
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overlyambitiousgoat Apr 9, 2026 +46
Sure are having a lot of those hours lately.
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Tyranis_Hex Apr 9, 2026 +40
I’m tired of living in interesting times
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ManWhoSoldTheWorld01 Apr 8, 2026 +709
It's a pretty long time for Donald to remember what he previously committed to before the alter ego steps in.
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saulsa_ Apr 8, 2026 +75
He can switch it around in 12 seconds.
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littlevai Apr 8, 2026 +103
It’s called dementia
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skildert Apr 8, 2026 +22
He should write it down. I bet there are ample crayons in the White House.
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WolfsBaneViking Apr 8, 2026 +11
He's not fit for crayons either.
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kl7aw220 Apr 8, 2026 +537
Upside world when I believe Iran over Trump.
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jamieT97 Apr 8, 2026 +264
Considering how much trump lies and misleads yeah somehow Iran is slightly more trustworthy. Still the bottom of the barrel don't get me wrong
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Accidental_Ballyhoo Apr 8, 2026 +81
At this point if you don’t understand he will do the exact opposite of what he says I don’t know what to tell you.
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ZampanoGuy Apr 8, 2026 +24
Literally this. He keeps proving this assertion. I feel like everyone else is blind and can’t see this.
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icematt12 Apr 8, 2026 +12
My only argument is if it sounds bad or benefits him then he might have a record of results. See campaign comments and actual policies to do with LGBTQ and women's health/choices. He's made comments about going after postal voting and I believe him. Even though he used it recently.
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Bleatmop Apr 8, 2026 +7
I don't trust either of them to tell me the truth. Both sides are trying to control the narrative. That said, I hope these two sides can work it out and stop unnecessary suffering of innocent people.
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wildfirestopper Apr 8, 2026 +16
Literally 1/4 sentences he says is a lie.
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takeda64 Apr 8, 2026 +5
Iran at least puts some effort when they lie.
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cogit2 Apr 8, 2026 +83
The art of the 12-hour deal.
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guywhiteycorngoodEsq Apr 8, 2026 +36
Quick someone math it in Scaramucci units
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cogit2 Apr 8, 2026 +29
A farmer is carrying 6 jars of Santorum to market. Bandits steal 3 jars, but the farmer later discovers two of the jars, one is broken, the other sealed. How much Santorum can the farmer sell at the market?
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SomeGalNamedAshley Apr 8, 2026 +22
I'm trying to figure out how important freshness is with Santorum.
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C0rona Apr 8, 2026 +4
You gotta let it ferment and ripen. If you open a jar and nearby birds don't fall from the sky, it's not done yet.
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Terrible_Use7872 Apr 8, 2026 +8
Who the hell wants a single Santorum, let alone a whole jar.
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cogit2 Apr 8, 2026 +3
Natural harvest bakers
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biscuitarse Apr 8, 2026 +21
0.04545 Scaramuccis
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theSchrodingerHat Apr 8, 2026 +13
That feels like it should be a natural constant. *e*^S IR (Iranians Killed) = *e*^S • sqrt(SA^bribes + Netanyahu^calls )
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AppleTree98 Apr 8, 2026 +10
Scaramucci actually does some really good YouTube videos. He will say things like I know Trump and here is how I understand this or that. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCHTWMm44zo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCHTWMm44zo)
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twitch_Mes Apr 8, 2026 +20
Trump has violated his marriages faster than that
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THEPIGWHODIDIT Apr 8, 2026 +1950
I wonder if such a framework was written down on some kind of documenting implement. Maybe a piece of paper? That would help resolve ambiguities around this situation The world should see the paper and know who is telling the truth
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improvthismoment Apr 8, 2026 +1200
I think we are already in a post-truth world unfortunately
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KingoftheMongoose Apr 8, 2026 +321
The MisInformation Age I call dibs on coining the term for books or whatever!
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DE4DM4NSH4ND Apr 8, 2026 +47
Disinformation age would b e more accurate. Misinformation is information you think is right but is wrong. Disinformation is information you know is wrong but spread it like its right
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THEPIGWHODIDIT Apr 8, 2026 +140
Book Title: 'We said, they said: Post truths and how to get your way in every situation'
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Boniuz Apr 8, 2026 +31
Hey! You can’t just steal the title of my book like that!!!
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THEPIGWHODIDIT Apr 8, 2026 +42
Lesson 1 It was always my book. You stole it from me.
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KingoftheMongoose Apr 8, 2026 +19
Lesson 2. Nuh Uh!!
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Binksyboo Apr 9, 2026 +5
Why are you both fighting about my book?
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KingoftheMongoose Apr 9, 2026 +3
Because it’s ruining the tour!!
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AntitheistArchangel Apr 8, 2026 +15
There’s already a book called that.
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KingoftheMongoose Apr 8, 2026 +28
Don’t let that distract you from the fact that I don’t read!!!
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Specific-Okra4059 Apr 8, 2026 +7
Just call it "The Age of Misinformation", sold.
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DogWithaFAL Apr 8, 2026 +10
This is going to be a headfuck for the AI podcast presenters in 40 years.
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AnteaterFormal7291 Apr 8, 2026 +6
What sort of king only has the one mongoose
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schlitz91 Apr 8, 2026 +14
But we have Truth Social - its right there in the name
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MooseTots Apr 8, 2026 +8
You should check out Truth Social. You can only post truths on there so nobody lies! /s
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emack2232 Apr 8, 2026 +77
There is no paper it’s all tweets
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wggn Apr 8, 2026 +14
or even better, truth social posts
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DefinitelyNotEmu Apr 8, 2026 +54
"ChatGPT, create a ceasefire agreement between the US and Iran"
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Buttonskill Apr 9, 2026 +9
[I think we can expect something more like this..](https://i.imgur.com/lkCiX2w.jpeg) Pretty sure that's an iPhone XL
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RedWeasel2000 Apr 8, 2026 +15
Clearly done on a collaborative Google docs and they all kept editing it 
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THEPIGWHODIDIT Apr 8, 2026 +6
Modern solutions require modern problems
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ahditeacha Apr 8, 2026 +47
By the time the paper is revealed, memed and doctored a million times over, gets featured on SNL and then has its own X account called WarPapi, the news cycle and everyone’s attention will have moved onto next week’s gong show episode.
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b0sanac Apr 8, 2026 +189
According to the mediator(Pakistan) there was a clause that included immediate cease of operations in Lebanon. And them being a neutral party in this, I'm more inclined to believe them more than anything trump/netanyahu say.
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Soft_Disaster9269 Apr 8, 2026 +66
Wouldn't exactly say neutral, but the closest we've got. Crazy that I believe Pakistan over the US.  Let's get a real neutral party involved. 
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greyl Apr 8, 2026 +32
It'd be hilarious to drag Switzerland into this mess
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SaintsNoah14 Apr 8, 2026 +18
In the context of conflict, they're as neutral as it gets, barring their partiality to Saudi Arabia
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wggn Apr 8, 2026 +17
well, they don't recognize Israel which is a major party in the conflict, so i wouldn't say that
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DogeGroomer Apr 9, 2026 +11
if they recognised israel that would make them biased the other way, which way do you want to slice it
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HarEr89 Apr 8, 2026 +17
And the White House and Vance say the original Iranian proposal was refused.
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MoneyManx10 Apr 8, 2026 +91
The PM from Pakistan who brokered the deal tweeted out that Lebanon was included in the ceasefire. So Israel and the US have definitely violated the agreement.
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HarEr89 Apr 8, 2026 +48
He may claim it in a tweet but nobody really knows what was agreed. There are completely different versions what US and Iran agreed on. Israel is saying since weeks and they even told Trump last night that they will not stop the offensive against Hezbollah and Trump agreed to that (Trump confirmed that a few hours ago).
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Limp-Nail-1265 Apr 8, 2026 +41
How Israel can definitely violate the agreement if it was not part of it and didn't sign it?
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HarEr89 Apr 8, 2026 +17
They can't.
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longshot Apr 9, 2026 +3
Vibes diplomacy is real and it is here.
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Notsohiddenfox Apr 8, 2026 +384
Am I the only one bothered by the fact we now do global politics on social media? The servers and infrastructure are (are?) owned by private entities.
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montarion Apr 9, 2026 +75
I hate it so so much
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mkosmo Apr 9, 2026 +17
It’s not much different than on the airwaves, broadcast from privately held television and radio stations. Just more modern.
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the_walking_kiwi Apr 9, 2026 +9
Perhaps in theory but not at all in practice, the whole nature of social media posts is far removed from official TV and radio broadcasts. Not only the posts themselves but the toxic emotive, algorithm-driven and dopamine-driven environment that they are presented and read in. It is a terrible environment for reading, composing and presenting statements which have significant repercussions for the world.
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ADunningKrugerEffect Apr 9, 2026 +8
This. Mainstream news broadcasters are privately owned entities. The point still stands, with the inclusion of traditional channels of information broadcasting.
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Days_End Apr 9, 2026 +7
Now? What do you mean now? Obama popularized it. He's credited with revolutionizing social media use in politics and people widely view it as a large part of his commanding victory. He took those campaign lessons straight into the White House. It's certainly devolved since then but this isn't "new".
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Figshitter Apr 9, 2026 +7
How many times did Obama make statements on social media where there was ambiguity as to whether he was speaking in an official capacity? How many times were policy positions announced via social media prior to any official channels?
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fuckyou_redditmods Apr 9, 2026 +7
If you compare Obama's use of social media with Trump's with a straight face, I can't take you seriously as a person.
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Wanna_make_cash Apr 8, 2026 +910
> "This is a victory for the United States that President Trump and our incredible military made happen," White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt wrote on X, as well as said during a news briefing earlier on Wednesday. > Leavitt also commented on reports that the Strait of Hormuz was closed. > "This is a case of what they are saying publicly is different privately. We have seen an uptick of traffic in the Strait today and I will reiterate the president’s expectation and demand that the Strait of Hormuz is reopened immediately, quickly, and safely," she said. "That is his expectation that has been relayed to him privately and that that is what’s taking place and these reports publicity are false.” This lady needs a serious dose of reality and could not be trying to slurp the presidents knob harder if they tried. Get a grip, geez.
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IPissExcellentThrows Apr 8, 2026 +518
I think she's well aware of the reality. Her job is to spin it to gullible idiots. Considering his approval rating is around 37% instead of 1%, she's doing a pretty damn good job.
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Soft_Disaster9269 Apr 8, 2026 +227
It will never drop that low. It's a cult, there's a good 15-20% that are willing to overlook every single lie he tells. 
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Mikeytruant850 Apr 8, 2026 +162
This except closer to 37%
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SomeRandomGuydotdot Apr 8, 2026 +37
Gas isn't $5 dollars a gallon nationally yet. We're not doing fuel rationing yet. Flights aren't grounded en masse yet. I think we'll see lower approval ratings before this is all over.
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ViolenceIsNecessary Apr 9, 2026 +19
Who gives a f*** about some approval ratings?
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UnlikelyKaiju Apr 9, 2026 +15
Fox News and their watchers, since they're the ones who keep harping about them. Especially when it's a Democrat president.
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Zlatan_Ibrahimovic Apr 8, 2026 +49
We're almost a year and a half into his shitshow (this particular instance of it at least). At this point if his approval rating is still 37%, then that's your number, not 15-20.
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scuzzy987 Apr 8, 2026 +16
He has a way to go before he hits rock bottom. Truman, Nixon, George W Bush, Jimmy Carter dipped into the mid 20s approval rating. Trump dipped to 34% right after Jan 6
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Visual_Collar_8893 Apr 9, 2026 +27
The fact that his ratings are still above 5% tell you how delusional we as a population are.
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Positive_Total_8651 Apr 8, 2026 +29
Seriously i dont understand how people dont get this. What the f*** do they think a press secretary IS!?!? They arent some rando off the street ffs. They are paid to specifically stand in front of the press, and answer questions about the white house. They arent paid to have or share a personal opinion, they have a job. There is fundamentally no point in listening to anything Leavitt says because she is solely a mouthpiece for the fascists. Ignore her ass and remove these fucks from office.
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Chemfreak Apr 8, 2026 +8
It definitely should be lower than 37%, but at a certain point nothing will force it lower, and certainly that limit is higher than 1%; you could poll a bunch people whether they would rather have $1 or $100 and some will say $1. Whether because they are that mentally incompetent to understand $100 is better than $1, or because they just filled in the wrong bubble or misinterpreted the question ect, but I've seen some extremely clear "right answer" polls that had a surprisingly large "wrong" respondents. All this to say 37% is crazy and not what I'm experiencing in real life (live in MAGA country here, they all still support him it seems to me).
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gnutrino Apr 9, 2026 +3
It's called the [Lizardman constant](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Lizardman%27s_Constant) and it's about 4%.
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LesCousinsDangereux1 Apr 8, 2026 +24
60% of Americans are not listening to a word of real news. certainly not press briefings. 37% is abysmal. 30 or so is probably the floor where you find completely irredeemable klan voters
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SadZealot Apr 8, 2026 +75
She does realise that every ship in the ocean has a transponder and anyone on earth can just look at the map and see ships aren't going through it.
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juno_phoenix Apr 8, 2026 +42
a huge number of people are happy to just believe what the admin says and feel like theyre #winning the lies, though stupid and transparent, are effective enough
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__Yakovlev__ Apr 8, 2026 +12
The maga crowd is too stupid to think of that
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eeyore134 Apr 8, 2026 +5
The 5G might get them if they try to venture too close to the truth online.
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Outrageous_Act_3016 Apr 9, 2026 +4
She knows it. But the dude in Iowa she is selling this to war to doesn't care
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Groovychick1978 Apr 8, 2026 +229
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984
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Serpentongue Apr 8, 2026 +19
Anyone can literally go to marinetraffic.com and watch the ships not passing thru
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wggn Apr 8, 2026 +5
how likely is that trumpists will go verify the truth of trump's claims on a website they don't know?
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Araminal Apr 8, 2026 +36
They are using *1984* like an instruction manual.
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StockholmSyndrome85 Apr 8, 2026 +11
Have been for years.
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Im_ur_Uncle_ Apr 8, 2026 +4
Well of course. This stuff has happened time and time again throughout history. You think anything thats happening now is new? Propaganda has existed since humans started to form the most basic of governemnts.
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DrSpaceman575 Apr 8, 2026 +10
“The president is privately being told that the sky is green and water is dry.”
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Subliminal87 Apr 8, 2026 +13
A victory for who? Us tax payers? Wrong. What did we win? We paid for the bombs they used. Now we’ll get to pay to repair their stuff. What a waste of money. What about school lunches??
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doctorlongghost Apr 8, 2026 +5
When it comes to captains and crews willing to risk their lives by attempting to sail across the strait, I think that only happens if the public message matches the private one.
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Fanfics Apr 8, 2026 +370
if only there were some way to hash out agreements between countries such that there's no confusion over what the agreement is or means. Ah well. Twitter it is.
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MiserableTennis6546 Apr 8, 2026 +117
Kind of difficult to do when you interrupt that process by bombing the other side twice.
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tea_snob10 Apr 8, 2026 +13
Twitter is more concrete than what either party had laid out……the most optimistic of optimists, saw this shit coming from a mile, or rather, hours away.
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The_lewolf Apr 8, 2026 +118
F****** Karoline Leavitt. “ I will reiterate the president’s expectation and demand that the Strait of Hormuz is reopened immediately, quickly, and safely," she said. "That is his expectation that has been relayed to him privately and that that is what’s taking place and these reports publicity are false.” Don’t believe your lying eyes. The president says the straight is open so the straight is open.
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No-Spoilers Apr 9, 2026 +11
Some day I'll be happy when this is her Wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Dietrich
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CisFishstick Apr 8, 2026 +180
Uh oh, Trump is going to have to threaten to destroy the sun or something for his next TACO.
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[deleted] Apr 8, 2026 +36
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fafnir01 Apr 8, 2026 +11
…so he is going to fix global warming next? Cool cool 
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Lumbergh7 Apr 8, 2026 +64
So you’re saying the stock and oil markets might swing again so that those close to trump can make inside trades? I’m so shocked
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MemnocOTG Apr 8, 2026 +34
So back to threats of erasing a civilization in how long do you think ?
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Mouthpiecenomnom Apr 9, 2026 +8
Friday after market close.
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Ok_Expert_4283 Apr 8, 2026 +84
https://x.com/Ibrahim_alFiqar/status/2041985262193156251 Ceasefire officially gone. US striking Iran again tonight 
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jazir55 Apr 8, 2026 +36
Who could have foreseen this inevitable turn of events?
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Grand-Argument5674 Apr 9, 2026 +23
What’s the source? Just seems like a dude saying that on X
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Feisty_Buddy2869 Apr 9, 2026 +19
> What’s the source? Just seems like a dude saying that on X I mean... "Some random dude said it on twitter" ***IS*** statistically more reliable than anything from this administration.
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sky_concept Apr 9, 2026 +14
Quote the link, dont send people to twitter of all sites.
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macross1984 Apr 8, 2026 +589
Iran is in no hurry to stop fight US started when it know it has upper hand in choking the strait.
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ghoulthebraineater Apr 8, 2026 +187
They have every reason to keep this going until November. Then after the Republicans get stomped in the midterms Trump gets impeached and they don't have to deal with him.
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hikingidaho Apr 8, 2026 +441
Dems would need 67% of the senate. I think they take both houses but not by that much. I also try not to underestimate the ability of the American left to snatch defeat from the hands of victory.
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flynno96 Apr 8, 2026 +39
Even in the best case scenario they would need 16 Republicans to defect which would pretty much never happen
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War_machine77 Apr 8, 2026 +12
I feel you, republicans certainly aren't going to suddenly grow a conscience, but a part of me thinks they may be a lot more willing to cut bait if they get stomped in November. It'd be purely out of self preservation, but I'm not ruling it out.
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mybfVreddithandle Apr 8, 2026 +123
Unfortunately, I concur. Especially with your last statement.
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hikingidaho Apr 8, 2026 +18
I hope I'm wrong. But I also hope the Republicans grow a backbone and remove him and his vp.
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joelfarris Apr 8, 2026 +22
How would they remove the US vice president?
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WatRedditHathWrought Apr 8, 2026 +16
Impeachment, but then we’re left with Mikey Johnson as president Edit: Nevermind, I am an idiot.
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PerfectAstronaut Apr 8, 2026 +26
Well, no because it would be a Democratic speaker in that scenario
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Thugosaurus_Rex Apr 8, 2026 +13
Which is why it's a fantasy. Even presuming they'd impeach Trump or even privately support impeaching Vance subsequently, there's no world in which they'd impeach and put a Democrat in office. At best they'd confirm a VP and then impeach, but then they'd have to get the VP choice through confirmation.
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InsanityRoach Apr 8, 2026 +14
I think it is more likely for aliens to show up and create an unified world government than for the average Rep to grow a single vertebrae, never mind a full backbone.
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karsh36 Apr 8, 2026 +10
Yeah, we'd be not only counting on a fair election after Trump has already made attempts to prevent that (executive orders over mail in ballots + that leaked memo from awhile ago) AND some republicans seeing such an upset voter base they turn on Trump. On the back half: A lot of voters are upset with Trump's war. May not have pierced MAGA, but definitely got the non-cult side of the GOP upset.
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The_Bitter_Bear Apr 8, 2026 +7
Agreed. It's frustrating as hell, not a single Republican should have a chance this election but I'm sure they'll hold enough seats to prevent impeachment let alone a successful one.  I can't wait to see what ridiculous arguments the "both sides are bad" folks trot out this election. Also certain there will be some amount of progressives who will still say no one is left enough so why make any progress at all. 
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wggn Apr 8, 2026 +6
America has a left?
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Jesus_on_a_biscuit Apr 8, 2026 +11
When did the Dems become a left wing party?
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SusAdmin42 Apr 8, 2026 +8
The Democrats aren’t leftists, but otherwise you’re right. Plus lots of Dems are warmongers so…
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CrankHogger572 Apr 8, 2026 +45
Lol Trump gets impeached? Never going to happen. If you still have any hope of that POS ever being held accountable for anything he's ever done, you're delusional. The man literally started an insurrection against our country and incited a violent mob to attack Congress while it was in session, and that wasn't enough to convict him.
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rickeyspanish Apr 8, 2026 +27
Not only that but the American people saw fit to elect him again.
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livefreeordont Apr 8, 2026 +11
He’ll get impeached again. Convicted in the Senate and removed? It would take something crazy like breaking ties with Israel
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GodsBicep Apr 8, 2026 +8
Trump is going to pull the "Zelenski hasn't done elections in wartime," card.
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zachxyz Apr 8, 2026 +29
Thats not happening. 
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namastayhom33 Apr 8, 2026 +11
Keeping the Strait closed until November is geopolitical suicide for them because it won't just be the US and Israel intervening lol
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666666Satanislife Apr 8, 2026 +16
Not if countries just pay the toll, then it’ll only be a problem for US-Israeli allies
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DABOSSROSS9 Apr 8, 2026 +41
There is a point though, where Iran may over play its hand. If everyone is noticing that Iran will close the straight whenever it chooses that’s when a coalition forms
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redfoobar Apr 8, 2026 +52
With the main route mined and the new route within throwing distance not sure if any coalition can realistically force an opening. The terrain so heavily favors Iran that it will also need a full ground invasion to secure big parts of the coastline. Setting that up needs weeks if not months and I don’t see any coalition partner signing up for that. Asia is bearing the brunt of the oil blockade but I think they rather pay a toll than sticking their hand in that hornets nest, especially with a “partner” as unreliable as the US….
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Karavusk Apr 8, 2026 +19
Even with a full ground invasion you only need one drone to blow up a ship at the right/wrong time in order to make the strait impossible to cross. It is simply undefendable against Iran. I doubt anyone will ever cross the strait without the Iranian government approving it.
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BestFriendWatermelon Apr 8, 2026 +22
There will never be a coalition that sees Europeans fight and die for Trump and his war.
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machopsychologist Apr 8, 2026 +19
Especially when there's a super high risk Trump just goes home and Europe is left to clean up the mess.
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TommaClock Apr 9, 2026 +4
Name one country that would be willing to join an invasion coalition to reopen the strait of Hormuz in the next 2 years.
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CryHavocAU Apr 8, 2026 +28
You seem to be ignoring the explosive ordinance that was being dropped on their heads on a daily basis. If it wasn’t some sort of compelling leverage then Iran wouldn’t have agreed to any ceasefire until it got exactly what it wanted. What we have now is the public face saving posturing (by all sides) that will occur alongside the negotiations. Both sides are claiming victory when really they both lost. It’s just a question of who is the biggest loser when everything is said and done… actually scratch that, Trump is always the biggest loser.
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flyingflail Apr 8, 2026 +18
Yeah, idk how anyone thinks Iran Has THAT much leverage here. They have some with the Strait, but their infrastructure (including oil) can be bombed into oblivion and they don't want to be forever poor
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Flouid Apr 8, 2026 +7
Yes and no. Obviously they could be seriously hurt by bombing thwir oil infra but doing so would only further constrict the supply, and they’d have no real reason to stop pressuring the strait. That’s a piece of leverage yes, but caching it in would only f*** up the global oil market more, and make recovery that much harder. Iran stands to lose a lot, but their leverage comes from the fact they can take a significant chunk of the global economy with them
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PrestondeTipp Apr 8, 2026 +19
They will when China, who buys most of their oil from the Gulf states, starts knocking
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SgtKeeneye Apr 8, 2026 +33
Wouldn't surprise me if they just work out something separately for them
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inquisitorthreefive Apr 8, 2026 +36
Aren't Chinese ships buying Iranian oil being allowed through?
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AccomplishedAd3484 Apr 8, 2026 +25
Yeah China is only worried that the war escalates to targeting oil infrastructure.
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Rapph Apr 8, 2026 +8
The US strategically could also blockade the strait and not let iran have an income from exports. It’s a stupid idea that pisses off US allies but so is everything else the US has done so far.
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Wankstain8 Apr 8, 2026 +10
And what will the US do when Chinese ships attempt to pass the blockade? Sink them?
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MistahFinch Apr 8, 2026 +9
The US can't block the strait physically,they can't get their boats that close. If the US wants to bomb ships passing the strait from a distance they'll find themselves to be an actual pariah state rather than just headed in that direction
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Ixziga Apr 8, 2026 +7
I think it's more that the US wiped out all their valid military targets too quickly and have no leverage left (short of threatening war crimes) to negotiate with. Like if Iran keeps the strait closed, what is the US going to do, assassinate the supreme leader? Bomb their nuclear research sites? Apply sanctions? The US already did everything short of war crimes so what's there to lose if Iran keeps the strait closed. Not like the irgc cares if the US commits war crimes, they're literally encouraging their citizens to stand next to targets. They just see it as a golden opportunity to appeal to the international court of law for reparations.
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Man_under_Bridge420 Apr 8, 2026 +19
This is just delusional. Iran is hurting way more from all the strikes 
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HarEr89 Apr 8, 2026 +18
The 2-3 weeks forever war.
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snoopingforpooping Apr 8, 2026 +11
Talks will be cancelled on Friday
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CeleryApple Apr 8, 2026 +92
Both sides want to talk. Iran sees this as an opportunity to get sanctions lifted, Trump needs to make his deals for the midterms. The only one who does not want to see this end is Netanyahu. He needs a complete victory in order to justify starting the war. Right now Netanyahu's opposition is already grilling him on what the purpose was for this war. Trump will call Netanyahu and probably tell him that a deal is being made with or without him. It is also not in Netanyahu's interest to have Dems back in control in Washington.
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JackC1126 Apr 8, 2026 +79
The midterms ship has said regardless. If the war ends tomorrow shits still gonna be expensive for at least a few months more. Trump gambled because Venezuela went off without a hitch and lost.
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Glad-Veterinarian365 Apr 8, 2026 +14
I think he thought, take Venezuela’s oil and then it will prevent the bad consequences of warring with Iran. Hasty & poorly thought out!
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TheBurningEmu Apr 8, 2026 +5
Maybe his base will believe him if a deal is signed and Trump says the US came out on top, but I don't see how there is any way to spin any of this as a "win" for the midterms to the rest of the country without (democratic) regime change. Otherwise any deal made is more or less just a return to status queue with billions spent and hundreds or thousands of people dead, and the global economy will still be feeling the reverberations for months at least.
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-rwsr-xr-x Apr 9, 2026 +13
Trump has an over 50 year track record of *breaking every single deal he's ever made*, without exception. In fact, he has [over 4,095 lawsuits going back decades](https://www.usatoday.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/) for many of them. Why would this be any different?
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SelfSufficientHub Apr 8, 2026 +402
Just how f****** awful do you have to be, to make the western populace start sympathising with the f****** Iranian leadership?
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JackC1126 Apr 8, 2026 +239
I don’t think anyone is sympathetic to Iran’s *leadership*. It’s the Iranian people I sympathize with. They had the opportunity to get rid of the regime a few months ago and nobody came to help. Only now to be subject to bombs by the same guy who promised help. The regime can get fucked. The citizens are paying for sins they didn’t commit.
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zoobrix Apr 8, 2026 +57
> They had the opportunity to get rid of the regime a few months ago and nobody came to help. I think it's difficult from the outside to know how close the protests came to seriously threatening the regime. Yes there was some prolonged demonstrations but the government came down on them so hard they stamped them out. Their control never really seemed all that threatened unfortunately. And the guy in the Iranian army launching missiles at the UAE is not the same as the person arresting protestors in the street. So it's far from certain a bombing campaign would have been enough to overthrow the regime even if it happened during the protests. 
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helm Apr 9, 2026 +5
From an European perspective I loathe the murderers in Teheran while extending my sympathies to everyone who has to deal with that volatile toddle backed by nukes.
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Playful_Leg7143 Apr 8, 2026 +59
Apparently only the Trump Administration is able to do that. Also I sympathize with the Iranian people, not the Iranian government. I do not support any government that deliberately targets its own citizens.
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NutsyFlamingo Apr 8, 2026 +28
Well as we saw in last US election, Listnook or media is not a good gauge on what actual humans in real life think. Id venture to say most people arent even paging attention to be passionate either way
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JackC1126 Apr 8, 2026 +37
“Listnook is not reality” is a lesson this site needs to learn but never will
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TheColourOfHeartache Apr 8, 2026 +14
Not very hard. There were people siding with Bin Laden immediately after 9/11. There are Americans who consider the other American political party to be their enemy, and do "enemy of my enemy" on anyone who opposes it. After all, they're not in personal danger.
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haloweenek Apr 8, 2026 +68
I think all that will be bullshit. The Hormuz will stay closed, Iran will keep tool booth system. US can’t do anything, bomb Iran - same thing happens to gulf states in 30 minutes. Even if US and Iran come to any sort of understanding Israel will torpedo the thing…
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donniedarko5555 Apr 8, 2026 +50
Until Trump gets mad that he cant win so he destroys all Iranian oil, water, power supplies and Iran responds in kind for the gulf states and millions of people die. Then everywhere else gets an extreme oil shock and Trump tries to monopolize American, Canadian, Venezuelan oil. This guy is a nightmare
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pfire777 Apr 8, 2026 +14
It sounds more like the admin is lying to the president so that he can live in his own separate reality
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Snakekekek Apr 8, 2026 +28
Iran also said no ceasefire talks were happening…. It’s all posturing to look strong. Things will progress, it’s clear that the US wants out and Irans willing to play ball.
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iumesh Apr 8, 2026 +5
Is Vance walking into a trap? 👀
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DoggedStooge Apr 8, 2026 +3
Part of me feels like Pakistan told Iran the US agreed to work from Iran's 10 points and told the US that Iran was willing to work from the US's 15 points. Which, if true, would be a pretty saavy move by Pakistan to get everyone past the doomsday deadline.
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PolyesterPantsuit Apr 9, 2026 +4
Wars being negotiated and fought over on Twitter (X) is absolutely bonkers.
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faffc260 Apr 8, 2026 +28
there are 3 options: negotiate, try to talk them down, or put boots on the ground either to seize all of southern iran to force the straight open (and at that point, might as well commit to full regime change...would require almost the same amount of effort..), or commit 15-30+ ships to e***** ships in the area constantly against drones, all are bad options.
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RedWeasel2000 Apr 8, 2026 +10
Don't know if escorting ships would help much. I'm sure they could reliably get ships through but Iran only need to very occasionally manage to get through defenses to put off companies and insurance providers. Some would maybe take the risk to leave but are they gonna come back in knowing they could be stuck there for months? Even if the ceasefire had actually held for more than 12 hours I think it would have been surprising to see traffic going back into the gulf when it could have fallen apart any time.
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DoctorSmall1905 Apr 8, 2026 +54
oh you know if trump hadn't started the war there would be no need for options
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faffc260 Apr 8, 2026 +34
trumps an idiot, I think we all agree.
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soulstormfire Apr 8, 2026 +21
Not just Trump. All your military who went with it, too.
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DozingUnderTheSun Apr 8, 2026 +17
Not all the military -- they keep firing generals so I'm guessing there have been waves of people who have tried to push back and then got pushed out for the next helpful idiot.
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Representative-End60 Apr 8, 2026 +12
Not just Trump and military, but all the morns who voted for Trump. They chose this idiot
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StickAFork Apr 9, 2026 +8
From what I'm hearing, Pakistan was working on two different ceasefire drafts: one the US side agreed to and one the IRGC side agreed to. It was never just one agreement. This resulted in an "agreement" without an actual consensus. I'm sure this will go well...
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IceMysterious3056 Apr 8, 2026 +3
World is allergic to ✌ It's not even half day in, sigh
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fallingdowndizzyvr Apr 8, 2026 +3
I'm surprised the ceasefire in name lasted that long.
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saucygit Apr 8, 2026 +5
Clearly they have not read Art of the Deal.
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mindovermatter421 Apr 9, 2026 +10
They want Israel to stop bombing Lebanon. Seems like a reasonable add to the deal.
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fitzgoldy Apr 8, 2026 +7
Iran itself happy to bomb Gulf countries though?
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theguy1336 Apr 8, 2026 +7
America's word is worth less than garbage
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Fit-Significance-436 Apr 9, 2026 +3
Well trump got what he needed, 1 day market bump to buy time , and spin more lies
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Introverted-headcase Apr 9, 2026 +3
Is congress going to let the country continue to burn 🔥 WTF 🤬
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Fantastic_Piece5869 Apr 9, 2026 +6
congress is run by the gop - who have ZERO opinions. They think what they are told to. Tarifs are good, now bad, now good again. War bad, war good. It literally doesn't matter. They have no beliefs or thoughts, just what fox news says. Which is to worship trump
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Venat14 Apr 9, 2026 +4
Yes. Republicans are openly treasonous. They want the US to collapse.
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