Iran sends "maximalist" peace plan response as Trump deadline looms

Tomahawk -tuah'ed I'm against all this shit just wanted to hop on the band wagon.

Yeah, thanks for this. OP didn't think too much about posting this

Per the [Kobeissi Letter](https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/2041292793063121380) (Sorry for the twitter link, but it’s not up on xcancel yet) Iran's 10-point plan includes: 1. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again 2. Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire 3. End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon 4. Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran 5. End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies 6. In return, Iran would open the Strait of Hormuz 7. Iran would impose a Hormuz fee of $2 million per ship 8. Iran would split these fees with Oman 9. Iran to provide rules for safe passage through Hormuz 10. Iran to use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations

Exactly. Extremely frustrating.

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No, Iran is old news, all my homies are into Cuba now.

Yeah what f****** bullshit. Bibi says no ceasefire so now that’s what Trump is going to do

Freedom is slavery

We were never at war with Iran! We were always at war with Iran!

De-escalation through escalation

Bro he said it so himself today. Really i would love to have the oil but American people don't get it.

Iran's regime: Ensures they have enough time to build up their nuclear program and reduce it's breakout time so next time someone attacks them they can stop it\* The US and Israel striking Iran's regime first in a conventional war, is really a function of Iran's regime being incapable for striking first. The regime knows if it kicked off a conventional war with ballistic missile strikes on US bases or Israel, they would get pummeled military, and they would be on the back-foot for diplomacy. So instead Iran's regime resorts to a shadow war as it's primary method. Fund militia proxy groups all over the region to destabilize your enemies, and keep them in a constant state of paranoia and wasting their resources combating them. All while the regime can "officially" keep its hands off and not let any of it's own soldiers die. Sure, the US and Israel fired the first "official" shots each time... But is it really that different than Iran's regime funding a 100,000 strong insurgent group in a foreign country, who routinely fires rockets into civilian centers- on their command?

Generally I understand your realpolitik point here but, Iran knows its friends were few and now ever further limited. This mainly stems from their nuclear program. Their regime wants to eradicate Israel as a nation and pursuing nuclear options on the side is rightfully looked with skepticism. I’m no huge fan of Israel or of the settlers in the West Bank. However, the fact is Israel isn’t going anywhere outside of nuclear holocaust anytime soon and the world has a vested interest in not allowing nuclear holocausts.

Too bad u still got hosed

and sounds like they’re firing all the competent people saying this is a terrible idea

Iran leaders have plenty to lose yet. It's a test now who thinks can endure more comparative pain.

>Iran has nothing to lose You people keep saying this and it has never been accurate.

With the new drones at mass warfare your aircraft carriers are basically sitting ducks, and ideal targets to severely humiliate the US.

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After market close.

What you’re missing is most eastern Asian nations are already rationing oil, entire supply chains don’t exist without it. Many industries are paused, costs are skyrocketing world wide and once inventory is gone Covid inflation will likely return. It takes some time for this to truly hurt the world and US. But if this continued say for another few months, Iran could bring the world economy tumbling down. Oil isn’t just for powering cars, it’s absolutely vital in a TON of manufacturing and there isn’t an alternative. US and Allie’s cannot ramp up production to meet the 20% of the worlds supply being cut off.

Yeah, it was like that the week before COVID blew up too. And the month before the 2008 collapse before that. Bear Stearns was literally overnight. The wild thing about the US vibes based economy is that it keeps trucking out over the cliff like Wiley Coyote, and then collapses immediately once it looks down.

If the Iranian regime falls, its current leaders will almost certainly wind up dead or broke and in exile. This war is an existentialist threat to the Iranian regime. The stakes are fundamentally lower for the Americans, so the political willpower just isn't there in the USA.

Yeah. But Iran can simply disappear any dissidents. So, in Iran, there is no hardship.

A lot of those vacations are booked months in advance

> Airports were as packed as any time in history this spring break Most people book spring break trips months in advance.

There are elections in the US. What about Iran? Who has control?

Cause listnook are idiots

Because the last of the shipments from the Gulf has not arrived to the US, yet. Also, some oil has been authorized for release from the strategic oil reserve. Once both those are finished, the US will be dealing with a shortage until demand goes down (via inflation) or supply is restored which will take months after the strait is opened. Even then, don’t expect prices to go down because the cost of reconstruction will be passed down to the consumer.

That is not going to be changed by “surrendering “

The question: who is going to fold first?

Attrition. Deploying 150 aircraft every time the US needs to rescue a single downed airman is not a sustainable strategy.

I think they are pretty prepared seeing as they have been preparing for this for 40 years. They have also been bombed a lot lately and had many leaders killed. Iran's plan of world economic pain except for those who aid Iran seems to be working. I know who I am upset with over the increase in petrol and food costs. It's not Iran. It's the Tangerine TACO and Netanyahu.