the US ~~spent~~ wasted 20 years in afghanistan with nothing to show for it lmao
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BulbasaurusesMar 29, 2026
+44
Don’t say nothing. We managed to kill a lot of civilians and spend billions of dollars. That takes enormous effort on behalf of the entire government.
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kia75Mar 29, 2026
+28
Don't forget betraying, deporting, abandoning, and basically treat badly any Afghanistan that helped the US. After seeing how Afghanistan allies have been treated for 20 years, it'll be that much harder to gain allies in other invasions.
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BulawayolandMar 29, 2026
+4
you would think so... but in fact, people are crazy
there are no exceptions
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Dry-Lab-6256Mar 29, 2026
+9
And create the largest drug traffickers this planet has ever seen.
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isekai_cheeseMar 29, 2026
+14
its no secret of the incredible L the US took on afghanistan. i merely kept it short for the memes but i do encourage people to look into it more bc its really bad. like ditching a bunch of expensive military equipment that was basically giving it to the taliban lmaoooo
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Additional-Signal327Mar 29, 2026
+11
That’s okay. Who needs social security, Medicare, infrastructure, or any other public benefits. The rich will be fine.
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darksunshamanMar 29, 2026
+1
>The rich will be fine.
Guarantees just aren't what they used to be.
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_bits_and_bytesMar 29, 2026
+3
>like ditching a bunch of expensive military equipment that was basically giving it to the taliban lmaoooo
This happens every time any military pulls out of anywhere. The US' time in Afghanistan was a waste but this isn't one of the reasons why.
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WorldofNailsMar 29, 2026
+2
Wait til you find out what's at the bottom of the Vietmanese Sea and who dumped it there.
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pinkfartlekMar 29, 2026
+1
Looks like they as a country don't even care about pollution in general when I tried to read more about it.
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Beginning_Cream498Mar 29, 2026
It's only an L if you don't understand the objective.
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bawbnessMar 29, 2026
+3
We were responsible for more innocent deaths in a couple months than terrorists in … probably all of history. Source my butt but I still think I’m correct.
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J-A-S-08Mar 29, 2026
+2
Billions? Try TRILLIONS. And 2400 dead service members, 24,000 wounded and countless suicides and mental health issues after.
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Sad_CummeMar 29, 2026
+2
Trillions actually
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jimmy_talentMar 29, 2026
+1
Your underestimating the cost, we spent trillions.
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JasonVorheheesMar 29, 2026
+4
This will be so much worse
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Falling_Down_FlatMar 29, 2026
+5
lol this is not going to go well for the US.
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hop_mantisMar 29, 2026
+2
Unless you're certain stockholders
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Jaded-Moose983Mar 29, 2026
+1
20 years? Operation Cyclone started in in 1979. And begot 9/11.
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ExplosiveDisassemblyMar 29, 2026
+1
We walked in Afghanistan so we could jog in Iraq and sprint in Iran.
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SminahinMar 29, 2026
+1
Haliburton profits aren't nothing, but they are worse than nothing.
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landomakesatableMar 29, 2026
+1
Oh some folks got super rich off it guaranteed
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Senior-budMar 29, 2026
+1
Not my field of expertise but I would assume the level of intelligent politicians was a few notches higher than the current administration.
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MrBoss6Mar 30, 2026
+1
I think people don’t realize that war and the war in Iraq wasn’t about winning, it was about the defense industry creating a new source of revenue. It’s going to bankrupt us
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gorgon__gorgonMar 29, 2026
+1
We destroyed neoconservativism as an ideology and got Trump which i guess is technically something
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martinsuchanMar 29, 2026
+16
America is not ready for FPV drone videos killing US marines, just like we see from Ukraine.
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Chemical-Fault-7331Mar 29, 2026
-4
I think if this were to happen, Congress would collapse. Every single Republican rep would start resigning en masse out of literal shame. When your constituents are coming to you with footage of their sons and daughters being slaughtered from drones, from a war your party started, that can’t be easily shrugged off. You’d literally start seeing their constituents going after their families and homes. Reps would have to be evacuated to military installations. And I’m not sure how effective that would even be if it’s the same military whose members are being slaughtered.
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mishma2005Mar 29, 2026
+18
You’re assuming Republicans are capable of “shame”
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Parking-Complex-3887Mar 29, 2026
+15
literally laughed out loud seeing "Republicans resigning out of shame"
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PsychLegalMindMar 29, 2026
+26
There is no indication that Iran will stop fighting or there will be internal strife sufficient to overthrow the government. Iran has been doing exactly what it said it would do and there is a better chance presently for escalation. U.S. may be willing to seek a respectable off ramp, but Netanyahu is not.
Iran is certainly suffering immense losses, but it can absorb it and is willing to. The Gulf states and the rest of the world is not. The pressure is on the U.S. to pursue peace and a settlement that Iran can live with.
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kia75Mar 29, 2026
+25
>Iran is certainly suffering immense losses, but it can absorb it and is willing to.
Iran has no choice but to absorb any losses, in the same way that Ukraine has no choice but to absorb any losses. When you're being invaded, your only choice is to resist or die, and very few people choose death.
The right-wing gets this when it comes to the US, asked what we would do if China\Russia\whatever big bad invaded the US they'd brag about their guns and insist America would fight to the last man. Yet when speaking about any other nation, they think the nation would just roll over.
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Homeless-Coward-2143Mar 29, 2026
+12
And for fucks sake why do we think that USA bombing them is going to cause anything pro-USA? Did the USA have a moment of introspection about the plight of middle eastern countries and our involvement in that plight after 9/11? Why do we think Iranians would be any different?
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barryvmMar 29, 2026
+3
Nobody thinks that. It just sounds better than supporting a war because you want violence, because you hate people who are different, because you think you can get rich through it, because "your" party started it, or for any of the other reasons they actually want it.
Everything these people say about themselves or their motivations is a lie.
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Beginning_Cream498Mar 29, 2026
+1
That's just political theater. No one gives a shit what Iranians think or chant in the street lol
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PsychLegalMindMar 29, 2026
+7
It has plenty of capacity and has responded to every single attack. We also know what happened in Vietnam and Afghanistan. Iran has been preparing for this the last 4 decades for this.
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Beginning_Cream498Mar 29, 2026
-2
The difference is we can recover much faster than they can
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PsychLegalMindMar 29, 2026
+8
With what, gas prices, losing clout in the gulf states and the world. When infrastructures are damaged it can take years and or decades in areas we depend on as does the world.. Not just oil and gas, all sorts of shipments.
We need to focus on the American needs here at home and the wars that are worth fighting.
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thecoastertoasterMar 29, 2026
+2
lol, in what galaxy?
we never recovered from the dot com crash - the wealthy found more loopholes to run their backwards trades through. covid gave the green light to corporations to inflate all prices and never bring them back to earth. COL is astronomical everywhere, and the “american dream” of single income supporting a family is but a distant memory.
the usa is completely fucked generationally at this point.
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WormsEatShitMar 29, 2026
+6
Exactly this, as you say the US needs an off ramp, by de facto that off ramp won’t exist until the US reigns in that genocidal maniac Netanyahu. Each and every time the US wants to walk away Bibi will up the ante with some outrageous attack to draw the US in further.
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thecoastertoasterMar 29, 2026
+5
lol who the f*** would take a deal with the US right now?
president doesn’t pay his bills or keep his word on ANYTHING. Iran is smart enough to know this and will never make a deal with this clown.
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Beginning_Cream498Mar 29, 2026
+1
And many people will get rich, which is the point so it's going perfectly according to plan. The United States and Israel can recover much quicker than Iran can.
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nutritionveganMar 29, 2026
+8
Non-paywall version here: https://archive.ph/hHMM8
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colondollarcolonMar 29, 2026
+6
I wonder who Donald Trump and the Trump Administration will blame for the deaths of these US ground troops, that he ordered into that theatre of combat? Joe Biden? Kamala Harris? Hillary Clinton? Barack Obama? Gavin Newsom? Tim Walz? Zohran Mamdani?
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VanguardAvengerMar 29, 2026
+3
>I wonder who Donald Trump and the Trump Administration will blame for the deaths of these US ground troops, that he ordered into that theatre of combat?
First a few Generals. Probably all the Black and Female ones. Then when that doesn't work, General Dan Caine the chairman of the joint chiefs.
Next up will probably be Daniel P. Driscoll, Secretary of the Army & Troy E. Meink Secretary of the airforce.
Then probably SecWarCrimes Kegsbreath.
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WormsEatShitMar 29, 2026
+2
NATO most likely
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ye_olde_green_eyesMar 30, 2026
+1
If Obama wouldn't have made that deal with Iran before Trump took office, Trump wouldn't have had to tear that deal up during his first term in the hopes of making a new one with his name on it, and we'd probably have done this sooner, meaning that the US would be about 10 years into the special military operation in Iran by now. Jeez. Thanks, Obama.
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IguaneRougeMar 29, 2026
+5
I like how Israel is not sending anyone lol
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Slippery-apeMar 29, 2026
+3
How much blood is Trump willing to gamble with I wonder
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spiraleyes78Mar 29, 2026
+21
If it isn't his, there's no limit.
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btspman1Mar 29, 2026
+1
Pretty sure everyone’s blood around the world.
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Beginning_Cream498Mar 29, 2026
-2
It's not a gamble. Blood loss means nothing. We can recooperate everything we lose dude.
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badbrothaMar 29, 2026
+2
Says the guy not on the front line getting blown up by drones, dude. What's the point again?
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HearYourTuneMar 29, 2026
+19
The entire world hate Israel and Trump so much for their deeds, including the USA, that they want Iran to win.
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No_Celery_5373Mar 29, 2026
+17
Not so much want Iran to win as simply
The US could literally just end this by withdrawing and surrendering, and that would be the best option for just about everyone else in the world right now. It's actually probably the best option for everyone in the United States excepting Donald Trump and the republican party as well.
If America loses out due to this absolute screw up, I am not sure why that's my job to care after the last year of America not caring about anything itself.
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fart_marblesMar 29, 2026
+8
Just as putin could end the whole thing in Ukraine by leaving. If you're the aggressor, you deserve your buttocks served to you on a shit platter.
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DawglvnDrMar 29, 2026
+6
The US government needs inflation to maintain solvency and the billionaires need distraction from the pedo files. This is not about the American people
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pymjohnilMar 29, 2026
-1
It’s not that simple. If the US pulls out now it strengthens Iran and their allies. Which is ultimately bad for the US.
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No_Celery_5373Mar 29, 2026
+4
And?.. The US does nothing except threaten my country's sovereignty and ruin the stability of the world.
I don't care if the United States gets a black eye over their irresponsible decisions. It may in fact be a good learning opportunity for America to re assess the costs of being hostile towards pretty much the rest of the world.
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pymjohnilMar 29, 2026
-1
I’m just pointing out that it’s not so simple. Has Iran not contributed to ruining the stability of the world? Or their allies and proxies?
I’m Canadian too. IMO it was an inevitability that at some point we’d have to snap out of our naive worldview that we could just rely on our geography and the US, while at the same time de-industrializing in the name of saving 2% of global emissions.
We’ve been stupid. Maybe we need to smarten up. The world is a dangerous place and we’re just realizing that it seems.
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know-your-onionsMar 29, 2026
+1
Aw, poor ickle US.
And do you seriously believe that if the US *doesn’t* pull out, it’ll somehow *not* be bad for the US?
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pymjohnilMar 29, 2026
-1
Do you believe that a theocratic dictatorship who thinks martyrdom is great, hates the West, chants death to the US, and funds terrorism around the globe should be allowed to build up long range weaponry and work towards a nuclear weapons capability?
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No_Celery_5373Mar 29, 2026
+4
The diplomatic plan that was in place was shown to be working.
Comparatively, this absolute clown show has currently only achieved the result of giving Iran a reason to put a stranglehold on the strait, and to resolve that the US is now looking at having to put boots on the ground in a country with 3x the population and 4x the size of Iraq, all while infrastructure in the gulf gets pounded, civilians get killed and nothing gets accomplished
You can believe Iran should be prevented from acquiring nuclear weaponry without going about it like a toddler. At least, the Americans could have. Past tense now. Now there's a price to be paid one way or another that makes diplomacy look c****.
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pymjohnilMar 29, 2026
-1
The diplomatic plan was working? Past weak US/UN policy that allowed Iran a pathway to Nukes?
I guess we’ll see how this plays out then. Seems to me like they pounced on a weakened Iran coupled with the White House, Senate and House and decided to strike before Iran was able to build up enough of a missile deterrent to realize their nuclear ambitions.
Does that make it not an absolute shit show? No.
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VR_RaccoonteurMar 30, 2026
+1
Prove the diplomatic plan was not working. No, I won't take Trump at his word. Dude claimed the British took over our airports 100 years before the invention of the airplane.
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MistvesselMar 30, 2026
+1
Who are you to forbid sovereign country to do what they want? Today we all know developing "Nukes" is the only way to be safe from either Russian or American invasion who are exploiting the NPT.
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VR_RaccoonteurMar 30, 2026
+1
No. But they weren't. Trump "obliterated" all their nuclear facilities. It ought to take ten years to rebuild if they ever had anything, assuming he wasn't lying!
Also before Trump we had a treaty to allow us to inspect their facilities. Trump tore it up cause Obama signed it.
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MistvesselMar 30, 2026
+1
If you replace West with East and US with any other country, then it is no obvious anymore you are speaking about Americans or who?
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WormsEatShitMar 29, 2026
+3
It’s not so much wanting Iran to win, it’s the whole world wants to see Trump lose, not the US lose but for Trump to be absolutely floored once and for all.
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Theferael_meMar 29, 2026
+1
I'm not sure which is worse. The US winning or Iran winning. A 'win' for the US emboldens Trump and MAGA, makes it more likely that he'll invade other places and weakens international law even further.
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ilevelconcreteMar 29, 2026
-3
Unfortunately, that’s not true. America still has a large collection of vassal states in Europe and Asia that have been quietly supporting the war effort, like the UK and France.
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HearYourTuneMar 29, 2026
+3
"the state" supports the war, the people do not.
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ToadfingerMar 29, 2026
+3
A warning? Trump and Hegseth are counting on the repercussions. They need the American taxpayer to fund a long war.
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TheGOPisTheDeepStateMar 29, 2026
+3
The Republican Party doesn’t care how many people have to die for the Epstein class and absolutely don’t give a f*** about our solders. Trump calls them suckers and losers.
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sunshinevibes16Mar 29, 2026
+4
Please heed these warnings and don’t allow pride to overrun good sense. Iran doesn’t WANT to be taken over, nor does Greenland, Canada, etc. it isn’t the US’ place to decide how other countries operate and make it their “mission” to just take over. Of course they’re going to defend their country and ways of life against threats.
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lingeringneutrophilMar 29, 2026
+2
Bro not this $hit again… I don’t know whose interest is involved but it sure AF ain’t the people
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Solomon_GrungyMar 29, 2026
+2
Yes, many Americans died during the Afghan war but billions of Taxpayer dollars went to private companies who profited from the war. Who wouldn’t want to repeat that?? /s
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mishma2005Mar 29, 2026
+2
Trump doesn’t care we’re just NPCs in his reality show world
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AsiaticOneMar 29, 2026
+1
Narcissists only respond to force or shame. Sometimes you have to teach them lessons.
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DocMedCattyMar 29, 2026
+1
Dear Mr. President, ...
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Weird_Rooster_4307Mar 29, 2026
+1
So I wonder how many Iranian soldiers from the age of 12 and up have been recruited this far to be in the first wave against the US if American troops actually make it on to Iranian territory. This is the same tactic used against the Iraqis during the Iran/Iraq war that ended in 1988.
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Delicious_Can_2518Mar 29, 2026
I’ve seen this episode before. Iran sends a 'stern warning,' Washington says 'all options are on the table,' and Raytheon’s stock price miraculously jumps 4% by Monday morning. It’s the geopolitical equivalent of two guys holding each other back in a parking lot shouting 'hold me back, bro!' while neither actually wants to throw a punch. Same script, different year, same taxpayers footing the bill for the theater.
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ilevelconcreteMar 29, 2026
+3
It’s not “theater”, Iranian civilians are dying by the hundreds daily
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brunebarol1Mar 29, 2026
-4
No one is scared of Iran
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crispywonkaMar 29, 2026
+3
Uninformed opinion. There’s no win or lose here. How many of are men and women are you prepared to send to their death in another Middle East conflict
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