Iran threatens to block Red Sea if US naval blockade persists

It's not the same goal. Iran isn't trying to keep the US out of "their" territory by force (because they can't). They are blocking access to civilian vessels, which are also weaker than the Russian Navy.

if you think about this for more than about half a second you'd see that the wider point is that drones act as a massive force multiplier and can allow a country without many boats to still expose ships to risk.

Doesn’t take much to make insurance prohibitively expensive for commercial traffic.

They are talking about blocking commercial vessels from the strait. Not comparing US and Russian navy. They are saying if Ukraine without a navy can block Russian navy from the much larger Black Sea, it is feasible that Iran without a navy can block commercial vessels from the narrow Strait of Hormuz using similar tactics.

if anybody could figure out how to look like a b**** with the world's most powerful navy...it is definitely trump and company.

A couple anti-ship missiles get through though and that’s enough

I don't think he was saying Ukraine = Iran and Russia = USA, he was saying there's an ongoing demonstration of using missiles and drones from a shoreline to prevent use of nearby waters, without the need for a navy. This is reality, regardless of how one feels about US/Israel's statements about how much of Iran's military is left, and regardless of Iran's threats to shipping. It's not an impossibility and needs to be considered.

It's not about comparing the USA with Russia. It's about a revolution in warfare that was put on worldwide display during the Ukraine war - drones, both air and sea. Sea and dairy drones can make vast swathes of ocean near a country's coast too dangerous to operate above the waves in safely no matter if you have a navy or not.

“Dear Listnook, today I read something I didn’t like. Why do you do this to me?”

You don't need to physically blockade it, just strike a commercial vessel and insurance will skyrocket first then after the 2nd strike, no insurance company will insure any ship that goes there, without insurance, no shipping.

lol yep. Iran is suddenly self confessing to so much of their bullshit over the last 30 years. They used to be wise enough to ask their proxies to close down international shipping lanes. Now they just do it themselves. They used to be wise enough to pretend they weren’t connected to their proxies. Now they are publicly dragging their proxies to war at their command and bragging about the leverage it provides them. For as disastrous as Trump’s decision making has been in this war, Iran’s decision making has been unbelievably self destructive. They’re high as f*** on their own propaganda. I guess Khamenei Sr didn’t tell his son that this was all a delicate act, not official policy.

Certainly, but the strikes on power plants would be the main way the US would retaliate and that would cripple their water distribution in urban areas.

Less dependent for sure, but they already have a water crisis going on. If they lose more water it wouldn't be great.

Doesn’t matter too much because the retaliatory strikes would be on power plants which would impede flow regardless of sourcing. Theoretically this could be used to target water distribution in specific areas. The main impetus of my comment is that Iran can unreliably strike some things eventually, but the US can reliably strike almost anything immediately, so if Iran starts pointing the gun at purely civilian infrastructure there’s an awful lot of ‘dual use’ rungs on the escalation ladder that the US can climb.

The economic predictions were correct on the surface. Russia's economy has been entirely propped up by injecting itself with cash reserves. The actual *civilian economy* HAS practically collapsed already, but the impact is distributed unevenly and staggered. It's the "hitler fixed the german economy" of the 21st century. No, he just injected society with debt, same as russia now does forcing the russian banks to "give loans" they have no hope to pay since nobody else will lend money to russia.

And Iran does not need to outlast the US. They just need to tolerate conditions longer than *the rest of the Planet* is willing to wait for this fuckwittery to finally end. As prices go through the roof. Or supply is endangered outright, in some places. Some people seem to think this is like a medieval siege, with Iran being the Castle.

I would say that Iran's government seems to be both be more entrenched in their goals but are overall weaker in their ability achieve said goals

China, as well as most nations, are “a part” of this was in the sense that it absolutely has massive repercussions on their supply chain, economy, and domestic stability. A not insignificant supply of their oil has been cut off, enough to cause serious economic detriment. They, along with much of Asia, are being particularly impacted by this war. In terms of being able to destabilize the US Economy, China BY FAR has the best capacity to do so, mainly through economic/trade policy. For example, Halting US protein imports, halt targeted exports (that most impact US Citizens to cause domestic uproar), while selling off tranches of US Treasury bonds (of which they have about ~$700 BILLION USD) which helps their currency from the inflationary pressure of diminished trade. This would have a crippling effect on the US stock market and USD stability (to an already hyper inflated “AI” driven market). Let’s be real, even prior to the war, Trumps tariff policy, coupled with his general unstable behavior had nations across the globe working to establish new international trade partners that would reduce the dependence on the US. To think that China doesn’t have a plan for alternate food importers (Australia or Brazil come to mind) in exchange for opening up alternative export markets is being naive. Hell, if Canada and the EU decided it was in their best interest, Canada is a massive oil exporter (currently, to the US), and it’s not like this US administration has been a good ally in any meaningful capacity to Canada, the EU, anyone other than Israel really… All it takes is a handful of nations to get together and say, “You know what, f*** this guy” and *boom*, the damage is done. Trump and his administration has been abysmal for US relations, and since campaigning, run on an isolationist policy… For what it’s worth, they’ve been putting on a masterclass in how to do that

It really is probably as stupid as that. Hegseth isn’t exactly sun tzu.

Yes but this is far too complicated a concept for social media, they saw a tweet and thats the only understanding they're sticking with because its short enough to digest. As all social media denizens know, everything they read on a social media platform is a verbatim, literal fact, especially when it has a half paragraph character limit.