Naval mines take a while to clear, it's a slow tedious process. I don't know what kind of idiot would figure they'd be cleared in a day.
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Yuukiko_Apr 11, 2026
+229
the US President?
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Boatster_McBoatApr 11, 2026
+99
that's certainly a kind of idiot
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SombraDKApr 11, 2026
+9
I would dare to say that he is even many kinds of idiots
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Boatster_McBoatApr 11, 2026
+6
He certainly relies on the kindness of idiots
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rowrbazzle75Apr 11, 2026
+1
But a stable idiot.
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skildertApr 11, 2026
+5
Who's been horsing around...
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jlunaticApr 11, 2026
+16
Lol, that guy?! Big time dork. Also heard he fucks kids.
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ag3ntz3r0Apr 11, 2026
+5
Okay. Carry one
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copperbloodApr 11, 2026
+5
That's a bingo!
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p251Apr 11, 2026
+41
This is clearly US psyops trying to justify why the straight isn’t open - it’s not that they are letting Iran control it, it’s that Iran doesn’t “know where the mines are”. It’s a pretty dumb take especially when it’s obvious Iran has total control over the straight
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Grow_away_420Apr 11, 2026
+18
I don't think they laid any mines at all in reality, but signaling that you did and you can't find them is a good way to keep the Stait closed even if you were being compelled to open it.
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NarrMasterApr 11, 2026
+6
They laid 3 mines.
They are numbered 1, 2, and 879.
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StephenHunterUKApr 11, 2026
+3
That is how military unit numbering works in RL.
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RiPPeR69420Apr 12, 2026
+3
The sort of mines that Iran was probably using don't come with a convenient way of tracking them. They are the most basic spiky ball mines the Russians have been using since the late 1800s. C****, easy to use, hard to find or track without expensive and specialized equipment, and very destructive if they hit a ship, and at the mercy of the ocean currents.
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Common-Concentrate-2Apr 11, 2026
+5
This is from a story originally written by the NY Times - One of the first outlets to determine that the school in minab was a struck by an american tomahawk missile. I believe you're suggesting now that the most well respected newspaper in the world (or one of them) will just publish anything that a Trump administration tells them - with absolutely no editorial review.
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Mental-Fisherman-118Apr 11, 2026
+29
The story repeatedly states that the claim comes from U.S officials. So even if that claim is false, the reporting is accurate.
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PleaseGreaseTheLApr 11, 2026
+5
The NYT is not that respected. They have published garbage that is shown to have been based on hilariously lax source quality and then proven false many, many times before, especially when it comes to any wars/conflicts.
I imagine next is "so cite some" as if I keep a running tally. One that comes to mind because I was writing for a tiny indie publication at the time though is when Kim Jong-Un's brother (or BIL, or half brother, or something - some variety of brother) was assassinated in Macau, and NYT republished a nonsensical South Korean claim that it was from "ninja ladies who stabbed him with needles," which they simply entirely made up with no source or evidence (and the NYT simply lifted their claim from their website and published it with that as their source).
Many different instances of journalistic malpractice have happened in the Gaza war, blaming both Hamas and Israel for various things that were not-long-after proven false.
They do this kind of thing all the time. Yes, they absolutely would publish nonsense they're handed by the government. Any government, in fact. How hard did they sanewash Trump in both of his campaigns?
American mainstream media is largely complete f****** garbage and not respected by anyone who pays attention over the long term.
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Spinoza42Apr 11, 2026
+12
I think we all know the NYT has a pretty bad record when it comes to American wars, and freedom of the press in general is doing quite poorly in the US right now. So yes, that sounds about right.
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tablepennywadApr 11, 2026
+2
Nytimes is a joke nowadays.
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fec2245Apr 11, 2026
+2
Why is it obviously false? Naval mines are hard to track and they were hastily laid during a period of turmoil. Is it difficult to believe their records aren't meticulous?
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re-tyredApr 11, 2026
+1
Good thing it's not a curve!
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Shot-Toe-2884Apr 11, 2026
+9
Nobody is saying they should be cleared by now. They are simply saying Iran laid them recklessly and is having trouble finding them.
US has been flying surveillance drones over the strait. They’d have noticed if Iran began a mission to recover them.
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DingcockApr 11, 2026
+3
That's true but part of the process shouldn't be locating the mines they've lost...
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ai9909Apr 11, 2026
How hard is it to glue an airtag on a mine?
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StephenHunterUKApr 11, 2026
+1
How well does glue stay gluey when submerged in salt water?
Also, can you even ship AirTags to Iran without violating sanctions?
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super_fallguysApr 11, 2026
+5
That is why, if the US President wants to clear the strait, it will take at least a month to do that and that is around the time oil prices will be high. We should have done that weeks ago instead of bombing a girls school or a bridge.
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SP1570Apr 11, 2026
+10
The US should have stayed the f* out of this war...
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rowrbazzle75Apr 11, 2026
-2
Well, the US should have stayed....umm, how far back do we want to go? 1953? Or....?
Nuclear-armed power vs non-nuclear. It's what we do, all over the world.
-2
Political_breedsApr 11, 2026
+1
From what I've gathered Japan could do the world a favor and remove those mines in no time.
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SomeBlokeApr 11, 2026
+79
They had me up until “US says”
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fec2245Apr 11, 2026
+5
It's funny how this is 4 of the top 5 comments but when Iranian state media makes a claim listnook just accepts it. You shouldn't blindly trust any party to a conflict, they all have a narrative to push. This doesn't seem obviously pro-American though.
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SomeBlokeApr 11, 2026
+17
Makes you appreciate how much ill will the USA has generated internationally over the past few years.
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fec2245Apr 11, 2026
-11
Trump obviously picked a lot of stupid and pointless fights but I think Listnook's blind faith in Iran is unique and unfounded.
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SomeBlokeApr 11, 2026
+4
I think it's a reach to say there's blind faith. Iran's regime has been thoroughly oppressive and I wouldn't trust anything they say either. So it's impressive that the USA has managed to match that bar.
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TopsyyeApr 11, 2026
Oh there’s intention behind it. It is unique though I agree. Uniquely sad.
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lazydogjumperApr 11, 2026
+5
Thats just confirnation bias. Anyone that truly questions the US's word now very likely also distrusts Iran's. Its like if the NK said that Russia was losing a fight, you wouldnt really trust either source at face value.
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wronglyzorroApr 11, 2026
+3
First time on Listnook?
People lap up the propaganda.
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Plan2LiveForevSFarSGApr 11, 2026
+5
Finding a mine is a craft…
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MCpoopcicleApr 11, 2026
+9
Technically they'll find them eventually.
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Money-Can-163Apr 11, 2026
+2
Go fish
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LetterNo7829Apr 11, 2026
+2
Trump should send more Venezuelan fishermen into their strait. It’s kind of their specialty by now.
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dcidinoApr 11, 2026
+38
“U. S. Says”
Ya, not playing that game.
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A_Poor_MiserApr 11, 2026
+26
I'm gonna go ahead and not believe the US on anything.
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WaffleHouseGladiatorApr 11, 2026
+12
Dude, Where's My Mine?
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Carcosa_The_KnifeApr 11, 2026
+7
Sweet, what's _mine_ say?!
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WaffleHouseGladiatorApr 11, 2026
+5
"BOOM!" What's mine say?
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cosmicraeApr 11, 2026
+3
Are you riffing off of "Where's My Cow" ?
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ai9909Apr 11, 2026
+3
I was thinking the _Dude, Where's My Car_ film.
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ken_the_boxerApr 11, 2026
+3
Schrödingers Street
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StrangeMan18Apr 11, 2026
+6
US also likes to shit talk their enemies constantly and lie very akin to Russia nowadays
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DREDAY_94Apr 11, 2026
+2
Was that ever not the case?
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IndependentSessionv2Apr 13, 2026
+1
Yes. This is different. This is not normal.
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DREDAY_94Apr 13, 2026
+1
US lying to us? Not really
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IndependentSessionv2Apr 13, 2026
+1
Okay, well in that vein, every government lies. It’s only been recently that we *lie like Russia does*.
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Hias2019Apr 11, 2026
+1
Iran: I guess now they are yours.
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razordreamzApr 11, 2026
+3
If they did mine. They know where they are. They let some ships transit and gave them explicit instructions on where to sail.
So it’s not completely mined at lest.
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wasbatmanrightApr 11, 2026
+4
there are 2 types of mine. Floating mines can't be tracked anymore and they are most dangerous
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wassonaApr 11, 2026
+1
Sounds like something I’d say when I didn’t want to pick them back up
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emilymh2018Apr 11, 2026
+1
Yeah, this will totally end well. /s
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AccordingInsect3481Apr 12, 2026
+1
Oops.
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Furious_FredApr 11, 2026
+1
That's what happens if you kill the persons who might have known, blow up the places the plans might have been and sink the minesweepers.
Apart from clearing mines might be more time consuming then planting them..
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cosmicraeApr 11, 2026
+1
The US has helicopter dragged mine clearing systems. They could easily loan them to someone like Oman or the UAE, to sort out the mines.
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sharpsicleApr 11, 2026
+1
I don’t disagree with the US credibility being shit, but lets not pretend that magically makes Iran competent enough to make this completely false either.
I bet it’s a little of both.
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tagillasloverApr 11, 2026
Unfortunately the guy that knew where they were was blown up last week. Oh well
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ozrocketApr 11, 2026
+1
"Because it was difficult to track the small boats deploying the mines, the United States is uncertain precisely how many Iran has placed in the strait or where they are located."
Yeh right, that's how it works, think about how stupid that is
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mohirlApr 11, 2026
They had me up until "US says". So basically there no reason to believe this.
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jcrestorApr 11, 2026
Sure, Jan.
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namotousApr 11, 2026
To their defence, the records of the mines’ locations are in the Epstein files /s
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Ultra_MetalApr 11, 2026
-1
The Islamic Republic should be sued and forced to pay compensation for all the commercial losses it caused.
-1
TrainsareFascinatingApr 11, 2026
+3
Ooh, ooh! Now do the US!!
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Old-Reception-1055Apr 11, 2026
What is that means !
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emperorsoloApr 11, 2026
Seriously?
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SyncroTDiApr 11, 2026
Now there is an unreliable source.
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aegee14Apr 11, 2026
“U.S. says”?
I will take that with a huge heaping mountain of salt.
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SRM_ThornfootApr 11, 2026
-1
The mines don't all have to be found right away. A path can be cleared and marked through the straight for the tankers to use. The rest of the mines can be located and removed later.
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