You forgot Venezuela, they were taking boats then and blowing them up.
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falconx1232 days ago
+41
Considering how we came and founded America, always have been.
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ScoobyDoNot2 days ago
+34
You've already plundered Venuzula.
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tabrizzi2 days ago
+29
The plundering of Venezuela is ongoing.
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privacyplease272 days ago
+2
Messing with the governments of Latin American and Middle Eastern countries is a long time American pastime. This is by far not the first time the US tried regime change in Iran.
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ThisOnes4JJ2 days ago
+7
see no piracy is a region specific thing when America does it its just called Sparkling Freedom
/s
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leohat2 days ago
+2
Freedom Pirates
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Xefert2 days ago
-2
More like the other side of the equation https://youtu.be/_54IUIv97nI?si=bWz56hBYUbKOxXpQ
The us flag was a (perhaps unintentional) mockery of those guys. Now I'm just embarrassed by it
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PigFarmer12 days ago
+51
Trump is a 79 year-old going on about 9 years-old. He's a perpetual embarrassment.
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Gleneroo2 days ago
+20
He is NOT the embarrassment. Every society has its share of foolish people, that’s nothing unusual.
The real embarrassment is the people who voted for him.
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TonySu2 days ago
+9
Yep, people act like getting Trump out of office will end this. But Trump was voted in by the popular vote, and he didn’t do it with charisma or hopeful plans for the country. He did it by claiming minorities and women are ruining everything, that Mexicans were mostly rapists and murderers, that Haitians were eating dogs and cats.
He claimed that rounding up immigrants would make the country better, and the country agreed. He said he would be a dictator, he said he would go after Democrats who were the real enemies of America, and the country agreed. Americans chose this, tens of millions of Americans voted for this, and tens of millions of other Americans didn’t care enough to vote against this.
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laplongejr2 days ago
+3
And in the case he rigged the election, that means no entity is able to prevent rigging. Both options are awful.
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Grow_away_4202 days ago
+24
If they destroyed the engine what do they plan on doing with it? They disabled it within Iran's anti-ship missile range. Having marines on board is risky. Can't search all the containers at sea. Tow it somewhere, but where?
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Cynic662 days ago
+24
Tow it outside the environment
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praguepride2 days ago
+2
the front fell off!
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falconx1232 days ago
+10
Pull it along the coast with a big string.
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Nextasy2 days ago
+6
Bahrain or Emirates, perhaps, if they'll take it.
Honestly though I wouldn't put it past the US to have just not considered this, and it might end up drifting free in the sea for God knows how long.
Or, trump lied in his post about what exactly happened, and it was stopped without so much drama.
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tktkboom842 days ago
+1
Are there facilities there that can handle thay level of TEU? Not positive but I think the nearest port that can handle a TEU load of that size is Karachi.
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Nextasy2 days ago
+1
It's been pretty standard since the 50s, no? I would flabbergasted if such a port doesn't exist on the west coast of the gulf. Each state no doubt has at least one. Edit: quick search shows [Jebel Ali](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_of_Jebel_Ali) in UAE has been one of the worlds top ten container ports
Then again, towing back through Hormuz might prove...problematic. the could try somewhere in Oman I suppose. Sohar would be the closest
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tktkboom842 days ago
+1
TEU STS crane facilities yes, but facilities that can handle that size of ship aka ULCVs are not that common. That vessel is nearly the size of an aircraft carrier.
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Nextasy2 days ago
+2
Good point. Especially if we assume it's not going back through Hormuz. Looks like Sohar could be the likely option, it seems near but not quite over their max berthing. I imagine scheduling it in will be a separate nightmare.
I forsee a potential future where this becomes one of those ships trapped in limbo for years and a huge burden on whatever port it ends up at
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RandomHamm2 days ago
+1
Top post on r/combatfootage is the USS Spruance disabling the M/V Touska, and the next post down is from the Marine boarding party. The rotten mango told the truth (for once)
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IncoherentAndroid2 days ago
+7
I'm pretty confident Iran knew this would happen and it's either a distraction or a trap.
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Scriefers2 days ago
+10
Neither a distraction or a trap. It was a test, calling US’s bluff. Guess they weren’t bluffing though
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IncoherentAndroid2 days ago
Yeh I guess so. Still making the US break international law and commit piracy is a good move by the Iranians. The US is currently destroying any scope for us to argue that a liberal democracy is desirable and isolating USA from it's traditional allies.
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Scriefers2 days ago
+1
I don’t get it, how is it piracy? America is a nation. Its vessels are sailing under that nation’s colors openly. This isn’t Piracy, this is War. And the US is conducting it quite well. They could have just sunk the vessel running the blockade and ignoring hails for 6hrs. Instead they just disabled it and commandeered it with no lives lost.
I disagree with you.
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IncoherentAndroid2 days ago
+1
https://www.rya.org.uk/boating-abroad/law-of-the-sea-and-coastal-state/
> Vessels are free to navigate the high seas within the laws of their flag state and only a warship of their own nation has the right to intercept them (other than to confirm the nationality of the vessel) unless they are committing an international crime such as piracy.
>Under UNCLOS vessels have a right of passage through the territorial waters of another country; all vessels exercising this right of passage must undertake a continuous and expeditious passage through Territorial Waters and may not engage in any activity which does not have direct bearing on the passage. They must also abide by international conventions - such as Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS), the International Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea (COLREGS) - and the coastal state has the jurisdiction to ensure that they do so. Such passage is referred to in UNCLOS as “innocent passage".
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Scriefers2 days ago
+1
I’m very familiar with UNCLOS. It is Iran that is in violation of it by heavily restricting and forbidding FREE passage through designated channels that are not even in their territorial waters.
America’s blockade and interdiction is an act of war. A forewarned and planned blockade of vessels going to or leaving Iranian ports after 10AM on April 13th. Again, I fail to see how it is piracy, because it simply isn’t.
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IncoherentAndroid2 days ago
+1
So, are the people on the ship being treated as POW's? I'm not sure what happens to the goods on the ship, either. I don't think that the US can appropriate them like they did with oil tankers outside Venezuela. I'm quite happy to admit that I don't know much about international piracy law, but I'm not sure that the US can just do whatever it likes, which is what it is doing (threatening war crimes by bombing civilian infrastructure).
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Scriefers2 days ago
-2
America can do what it likes because it has the biggest stick, and few dare to challenge them. The vessel will most likely be escorted to a friendly port nearby, its crew processed and released (or arrested if they’re Iranian), its cargo itemized and accounted, and then the ship and cargo will be held until the end of the war at which it will very likely be returned the own on registration if legitimate.
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IncoherentAndroid2 days ago
+2
> America can do what it likes because it has the biggest stick, and few dare to challenge them.
Yep, this is why shits fucked up.
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the_last_0ne2 days ago
-1
Tow it outside the environment, obviously
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Dark_Mak__r2 days ago
+19
Pirates of the hormuz ft. Trump and iran
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Ronin6042 days ago
+10
This narrative the US is in is crazy, they are seizing Iranian ships but they are letting Russian oil tankers get back to business despite the Russians involvement with Iran and the war with Ukraine , insane.
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CarryBigStickorElse2 days ago
+7
If the sentence ends with Trump says you can just discard the whole sentence as complete nonsense.
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WhyIsItAlwaysADP2 days ago
+10
Iran already bombed us back with drones.
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Bluefellow2 days ago
+11
Do you have a source? Heard this but haven't seen any reports on what they hit
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Toadfinger2 days ago
+4
How is it the U.S. Navy can board and seize a giant Iranian ship but can only destroy crappy little fishing boats off the coast of Venezuela?
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Consistent-Throat1302 days ago
+4
Well there was nothing of value in the Venezuelan boats.
These ships have oil.
The fishing boats had no drugs.
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angrysquirrel7772 days ago
What else are they supposed to be destroying around Venezuela in your opinion? These are two different situations.
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Dapper-Monk97132 days ago
+5
The narrative the U.S. is pushing right now is wild, cracking down on Iranian ships while seemingly letting Russian oil tankers operate again, even with Russia’s ties to Iran and the ongoing war in Ukraine. It just doesn’t add up.
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Neuromangoman2 days ago
+6
Trump, unable to fully enact his autocratic desires in the US, is falling back on his secondary dream: becoming the Pirate King.
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notstarman2 days ago
+2
Piracy is illegal acts of violence, detention, or plundering committed for **private ends** by the crew or passengers of a **private ship** on the high seas against another ship. A government cannot be a pirate by definition.
What they are doing is either a legal action condoned by a international court (Their was an active warrant for the ship under file with the United Nations) or an act of war. The ship was flagged under the Iran Registry and the US is in an active conflict with Iran.
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Neuromangoman2 days ago
+3
Gum-Gum Pistol
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Herkfixer2 days ago
+1
The US just last week (or maybe it was teo weeks ago) released the sanctions on Iran so I doubt their was still an active warrant on the ship. Warrants arent usually something you put on and take off over and over on a whim.
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cameron42002 days ago
+4
This lowers the price of gas
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Gleneroo2 days ago
-2
While your leaders support a genocide, attack a third country during negotiations, threaten to exterminate a civilization... You, the only thing you complain about is gas prices.
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cameron42002 days ago
+1
It’s a little silly that even if they blew up Iran it helps no one
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Upstairs_One_49351 day ago
+2
it's almost like they don't want to reach an agreement with Iran as they seem to being everything they can to undermine it
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