Man, the diaspora of every country is always a little willing to put the folks who actually live there through the wringer.
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Used-Gas-6525Apr 11, 2026
+145
See: Cubans in FL cheering on the systematic starvation and deprivation of energy in Cuba brought on by the US. They want the commies out and they don't care how many people still living there have to suffer/die to make it happen.
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livy-aureliaApr 12, 2026
+45
cause they want their granddaddies’ plantations back
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SaidTheSnailApr 12, 2026
+11
Yes I’m sure the 4.3 million Cubans of the diaspora were all plantation owners and not just people fleeing political persecution, violence at the hands of their government, or a life of enforced poverty and starvation.
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Used-Gas-6525Apr 12, 2026
+10
Yup. They pine for the good old days when American corporations (often fruit and sugar companies) basically owned the island. And when Basista was slaughtering anyone who didn't love it.
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Kind_Disaster_4639Apr 12, 2026
+5
They (Cuban/American) want to return with American dollars to once again buy up the island for c**** and start the cycle again of American ownership and c**** slave labour. Starving a country (Iran,Cuba) by imposing sanctions then blaming the government for lack of modernization and humanity.
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PhilodendriticApr 12, 2026
+5
Do you ever stop and consider that you might be being lied to? That the people FROM the countries you all feel you’re so knowledgeable on disagree with your assertions, why could that be? Do you ever stop and think, hmm, who benefits from me believing this narrative? Maybe people from within have a little more insight?
Because you’re ALL being duped. I f****** promise.
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SPH3R1C4LApr 12, 2026
+4
I don't think it's unreasonable to be skeptical of expats of countries that had regimes propped up by the US and experienced popular uprisings.
It doesn't mean you should completely disregard their complaints, but I wouldn't take them completely at face value either.
4
EtheriusApr 12, 2026
+2
Shouldn’t you hold their opinions in higher regard than social media outlets who do not have firsthand experience?
You don’t know why all of them left. You’re presuming they left because they benefited under Batista which is hardly a fair assumption. There’s several million expats. They can’t all have been plantation owners
2
UnholyAuraOPApr 12, 2026
+43
The people in Iran just had nationwide protests that resulted in 30k dead at the hands of the IRGC and police. Then what followed during the war was mass hangings of protestors, many of them college students. Its not a diaspora, its everyone.
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Ionic_liquidsApr 12, 2026
+3
The Diaspora exists because they were able to escape the oppression. The Diaspora is mostly people who grew up in Iran. Their opinion is as valid as any other Iranian.
3
PrestondeTippApr 11, 2026
+68
If only the Iranians had internet to tell us how they felt
If only they weren't shot en masse in protests as recently as January
68
Past_Wishbone5025Apr 11, 2026
+16
Well they've also been getting bombed as recently as last week
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TheVeryVerityApr 11, 2026
+26
And still get shot if they get out of line. I’ll never understand why these people think that’s an improvement somehow
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zenbowmanApr 12, 2026
+9
This. Diaspora politics is extremely toxic and we should stop pretending otherwise.
9
SwvellyBentsApr 11, 2026
+175
It would be great if our involvement in this war actually benefited the Iranian population in their hopes for a better, more equitable future.
Unfortunately, the only path for that to happen would have to involve Trump seeing some means of financial gain.
I wish them luck.
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FewResearcher2606Apr 11, 2026
+53
Honestly, it's more about trump incompetence that this involvement didn't lead to anything at all.
He told us from the start of the bombing campaign to stay inside our homes and wait for the right moment to seize the power. Talking about regime change left and right.
And suddenly he declares victory without achieving any of the goals and decides to negotiate with the same regime.
Not trying to say I'm expecting someone else to do the regime change for me, I'm still ready to give my life for my own freedom.... But why give false hope when there is no f****** plan at all.
As someone who lives here. They have been pretty straight forward for the past few decades that they will close the strait of something that happens to them. How can you not take that into account before attacking and prepare a plan for it?
Edit: and those truth posts. Couldn't someone like to review them before posting? Like "Sir, maybe putting the word civilization and threatening Power plants in the post is a bit too much? " that one f****** post had so much PR power for the regime. He could have just asked us to Rise up and help him instead...
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hurdurnotavailableApr 11, 2026
+22
Don't worry. This is far from over. These negotiations are extremely unlikely to succeed.
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FewResearcher2606Apr 12, 2026
+3
I guess you were right
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SanhenApr 11, 2026
+13
\> But why give false hope when there is no f****** plan at all.
That's kind of Trump's whole thing. I'm sorry to say that his actions are unlikely to help the situation on the ground, in part because I don't think he cares much about the situation on the ground. At the most, he cares whether Iran has a nuclear program or not, and as a secondary thing, he might want Iran to stop supplying Hamas, the Houthis and Hezbollah (though Israel likely cares about that part more than him). In terms of who is in charge, Trump might say he's on the side of the average Iranian, but the reality is more likely that he believes saying that gives him leverage over the Iranian regime. As long as Iran's government gives him something that he can sell as a win, he's perfectly happy for them to remain in charge.
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gecko090Apr 11, 2026
+5
This is who Trump is. He'll declare something is happening before it's even been discussed by anyone, and then he just expects other people to cobble something resembling a plan together. The reason it played out this way is because his thought process went as far as "If say it's going to happen they'll make it happen."
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Mysterious-Recipe810Apr 11, 2026
+2
Trump is only looking to enrich or to otherwise benefit himself. You just have to ignore everything he says, and look at what he does. I’m so sorry.
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HardlyW0rkingHardApr 12, 2026
+34
As an Iranian who is in regular contact with people in Iran, I don't think the effect of this war is truly understood by most people in western countries. Yes, this war has set Iran back in many ways; however, this outcome has always been something that most Iranians envisioned in a scenario where the regime collapses.
Please understand the situation in Iran, without this war, was already very dire. There is drastic water and energy shortages. The economic situation is awful and there is a lack of freedom of thought and expression. Women are treated insanely poorly; Baha'is, sunnis, christians, christian converts, turks, lurs, kurds and many other minorities are treated in some cases without any rights whatsoever, their assets constantly being taken by the state. All of these issues have all been a direct result of the regime mismanaging the country to fund their ideology wars.
My point is, this war might not be the direct reason for a regime change; but the regime's internal strength has never been weaker. In Janurary millions hit the streets to achieve change, tens of thousands were murdered nationwide. A lot of these basij units and their commanders have been killed since. There is a sea of blood between Iran's civilians and the IRGC and basij. There is no going back to normal; people are way too pissed still.
When the next set of protests happen, and I guarantee you there will be more protests. It becomes more likely of success, and despite my dislike for the trump admin, I will be more than willing to give them credit where it's due.
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SwvellyBentsApr 12, 2026
+13
Thanks for this. Wishing you and yours the best.
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glumjonsnowApr 12, 2026
+6
it said on arab tv. the regime will have to face its people after the war. it may not be immediate but they are weak and people hate them .
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GrimpenMarApr 12, 2026
+3
With the increasing unpopularity of the IRGC over the years as each series of protests increases in size, I assume that much of the IRGC's efforts at suppression have been aimed at keeping the opposition fragmented.
One of the things that I've seen charge as an outsider is the sudden preponderance of chants of "Javid Shah". It's not universal, but it seems to be that opposition has coalesced finally.
I've heard of attacks on Basij checkpoints lately. Sure, only a few, but this could be the start of something big. IRGC suppression of the opposition is faltering. You know weapons are being smuggled in and resistance is organizing.
I think that you are completely right.
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Ultra_MetalApr 11, 2026
What's really sad is that Trump and Netanyahu are the only leaders doing anything significant for the Iranian people (regardless of what their true motives may be). The rest of the world's leaders don't give a shit if the regime continues to murder, torture, r*** and oppress the Iranian people.
0
Mysterious-Recipe810Apr 11, 2026
+2
What are Trump and Netanyahu doing to prevent the regime from oppressing the Iranian people?
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[deleted]Apr 11, 2026
+14
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Mysterious-Recipe810Apr 11, 2026
+1
Which will not result in the regime’s removal.
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HardlyW0rkingHardApr 12, 2026
+7
It might not result in a regime removal through war, but the regime has become much weaker and much likelier to collapse in future protests.
There is zero chance Israel isn't going to use Iranian's dislike for their government in the future.
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Settra_RulezApr 11, 2026
+5
You think there’s a zero percent chance of regime collapse through uprising, coup, etc., over the next year or two?
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[deleted]Apr 11, 2026
+6
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Mysterious-Recipe810Apr 11, 2026
+9
They are also destroying civilian infrastructure and killing civilians. By all accounts, the Iranians are worse off.
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HardlyW0rkingHardApr 12, 2026
+10
both destruction of civilian infrastructure and civilian lives being lost was happening before the war. 10's of thousands of people died in 2 days in Janurary during protests. Yes, Iranians are worse off but based on water shortages, energy shortages, lack of human rights, and/or lack of freedom, but at the very least the destruction of infrastructure that was only draining Iranian economy to feed the IRGC's ideology export and military machine is also being destroyed and the regime is also getting much weaker.
Most Iranians have been bracing for many worse case scenarios in issues I mentioned earlier, but the hope for regime change has never been higher. The duality of hope and despair is an on-going feeling most Iranians I know are experiencing because regime collapse is very much possible right now. The world needs to stay united and not throw the IRGC a lifeline of an agreement right now.
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Hoosteen_juju003Apr 12, 2026
You’re right, we should have just not done anything and they could keep killing thousands of people in peace.
0
The5dubyasApr 11, 2026
+157
Maybe Iranian Canadians should step into the fray themselves
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Any-Interaction6066Apr 12, 2026
+7
Everytime I see this shit I think, Israel will gladly suit them up and send them all in. Heck the US too. Every last one. So go for it.
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Pls_Save_MeApr 11, 2026
+94
It’s a lot easier to ask for that when you don’t actually live there.
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shabooya761Apr 12, 2026
+3
We are literally echoing what our families and friends inside Iran are saying. Sorry if that breaks your tidy narrative. Count yourself lucky you could never even comprehend why Iranians are begging for foreign intervention, despite the risk of being bombed.
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hurdurnotavailableApr 11, 2026
-4
Iranians inside would say the same thing.... if they had Internet. You can check some of what goes through in NewIran sublistnook.
-4
dearbokehApr 11, 2026
-18
Listnook losers understand nothing. All they can do is hate anything that is related to Trump. Zero ability to think beyond that.
-18
GymflutterApr 11, 2026
+6
Lets not pretend that Trump cares about the Iranian people. They dont even care about the collateral damage of bombing a girls school. The regular people always get screwed. Regime change doesnt always mean better if you elect worse people. So far they replaced some 80 something year old with his more radical 30 something year old son. You showed Iran that diplomacy doesnt work because you keep bombing them in the middle of negotiations. Meanwhile the double standard of letting Israel do what it wants with American supplied weapons is absolutely hypocritical.
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Khaganate23Apr 12, 2026
+5
You never met an Iranian and it shows.
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Major_Ad138Apr 12, 2026
-3
I'm dating one. Her tune changed real quick with the US threat to kill every living person inside the country. Stop talking out of your ass.
-3
Khaganate23Apr 12, 2026
Let me guess, she uses crypto? MEK?
It's obvious she hasn't had to worry about the death squads if that's her concern. If anything its concerning that it took orange man to change her opinion vs IRGC.
Btw my entire family across Iran has been asking for this since 2022.
So stop lying azizam. If you're gf really is Iranian she would learn about what the refugees of 2022 have to say.
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Major_Ad138Apr 12, 2026
+4
Huh? Stay on track. Not talking about crypto.
She is Iranian. She was very passionately supporting the invasion. Then the acting President of the USA threatened to kill everyone in the country. I highly doubt you or your family would like to die. A death squad in 2022 vs every living person inside the country killed? Try talking some sense for once.
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Khaganate23Apr 12, 2026
+28
Oh boy, here comes the **racist** comments from the usual suspects trying to convince ignorant westerners that blinded women who came from Iran in 2022 are not a good indication of what Iranians are like.
Or the constant refugees coming from Iran.
Or the Iranians in January.
Or the HDF.
Anything to silence Iranian voices.
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DebentureThymeApr 12, 2026
+9
Wait, is it racist to say that we don't want Iran to be an evil regime but we also think the US shouldn't be starting a f****** war with other nations to force ourselves upon them over false justifications? Are we the world police? Will we actually cause regime change, or will it be like Venezuela where we haven't done shit for the people and are only forcing the leadership to bow to us and give us oil? They're just as brutal with their citizens as ever.
All we're doing is imperialism with extra steps and bombed schools. This helps no Iranians. This frees no one. This changes no regime, they will at best turn into a Saudi Arabia - violent crackdowns by rulers that they seek to hide those actions from the world, while smiling and waving at foreigners there to take the oil and make them rich.
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SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHINGApr 11, 2026
+24
The *only* way regime change will happen is with boots on the ground and that is a deeply unpopular and non-viable option at this time.
The current war has made things so much worse for average Iranian. If economic reality sucked, it is even worse now with billions of dollars in damages to oil and gas infrastructure, hospitals, schools, roads, etc. If regime was brutal before, they would are 10X worse and day to day life would be more militarized than ever before.
If the Iranian Canadians are so eager, they should volunteer to take up arms. CIA is desperate to arm opposition groups. They even tried and failed to trick Kurds into getting involved. They’d be happy to try again with another group.
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NoBreakfast4Apr 11, 2026
+20
Disagree. As we've seen with several US wars throughout the decades, boots on the ground rarely is the solution. The only way for a regime change to happen is from within, by the Iranian people, which will be long and bloody. Such as we've seen in Syria.
20
HippyHunter7Apr 11, 2026
+11
Then
Why
Did
We
Attack
Iran?
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GustomuchoApr 12, 2026
+16
Israel.
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Any-Interaction6066Apr 12, 2026
+2
Spot on.
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84CressidaApr 11, 2026
+56
Can’t wait for Listnookors to try to tell these actual Iranians how they should feel.
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LuminaL_IVApr 12, 2026
+16
Oh I have been told multiple times I know nothing about anything and Im ignorant and Westerners who swear IRGC is not as bad as trump and that Im lying and it was not 40000 dead and IRGC daid it was only 5000 as if 5000 lives lost just for basic human rights is just nothing because it was in middle east
I have been even told and I quote "yes Im willing to sacrifice 40000 civilians if that means we can kill trump"
I have friends and families in Iran and every time we somehow manage to chat or speak by landline call, they are not wrroied about the war, they are worried about war ending without crippling this regime.
Yet somehow i have been told by people who take their freedom for granted that no, they know better than me
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NutchosApr 11, 2026
+31
I also immigrated from a third world country (not Iran) decades ago.
I haven't been to that country, haven't kept up with it also for decades.
I would be considered an "actual" member of that country per your standards.
If anyone were to take my opinion of that country and print it as a headline as if I were a spokesperson for people who actually live in that country, they may be as stupid as I am about the subject matter.
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Khaganate23Apr 12, 2026
+18
>I would be considered an "actual" member of that country per your standards.
Good thing Iranians keep coming in steadily as refugees and still saying the same thing they did last year, the year before, and before that...
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Brampton_SpeaksApr 11, 2026
+55
Does that mean the Cubans in Miami represent the overall general Cuban perspective on earth?
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qTp_MeteorApr 11, 2026
+16
No one represents the overall general perspective of any population. Your comment is meaningless.
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TheColourOfHeartacheApr 11, 2026
-1
More then the average listnookor.
-1
v_a_n_d_e_l_a_yApr 12, 2026
+18
They can feel however they want. But for them to protest in favour of military action when they aren't the ones risking their life is a reasonable thing to call them out on.
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nydtdlApr 12, 2026
+3
how do you want them to risk their life? A ticket back to their home country and murdered by IRGC like the other 50000 Iranians in January? Americans can be selfish, everyone is, but common people don't have a chance against a modern brutal regime without external intervention, that's very real for them as well.
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Apart-Oil-8731Apr 11, 2026
+15
Don’t worry every Iranian is actually secretly Mossad
/s
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CursethewindApr 11, 2026
+15
It's not that we should control how they feel, they have all right to feel as they do.
If they feel so strongly though, they should consider going out to fight instead of only pressing the rest of us to do so for them.
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84CressidaApr 11, 2026
-7
You keep that same energy for the US sending aid to Ukraine?
-7
CursethewindApr 11, 2026
+14
If citizens of another country protested to send US troops to Ukraine I would say the same thing.
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cuprianApr 11, 2026
+9
actual Iranians live in Iran 🌠
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EpyrApr 11, 2026
+5
Their feelings are directly hurting my ability to put food on the table....
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Independent-Cow-4070Apr 11, 2026
+3
Expats are not indicative of a countries beliefs. They left for a reason lol
3
RIPfreewillApr 12, 2026
+2
Yeah, and Trump is threatening war crimes. Are war crimes suddenly legal if you have the approval of some former residents of the country having war crimes committed against them?
I understand why they’d support military action against Iran, but that doesn’t make Trump’s strategy right or legal or moral.
2
Joyous-Volume-67Apr 11, 2026
+38
Nobody on Listnook wants to hear about the 50 years of Islamofascist suffering the Ayatollah's have meted out on the Iranian people, nor do they want to be reminded of the tens of thousands of Iranians the IRGC slaughtered in January for protesting the Islamofascist suffering the Ayatollah's have meted out on the Iranian people, coupled with the hundreds of thousands of Iranians the IRGC have slaughtered for protesting the Islamofascist suffering the Ayatollah's have meted out on the Iranian people for the last 50 years. To say nothing of course to the Islamic Republic of Iran arming and funding Hamas and Hezbollah to kill Jews in Israel for the past 50 years. For these morally corrupt radicalized morons, all of that's a plus.
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DeeplyEepyApr 11, 2026
+20
Failing to understand your enemy is one of the worst mistakes you can make in any kind of conflict.
Refusing to see how our own country’s actions created these circumstances is an intentional act of ignorance.
You don’t have to like the Iranian government or their actions but you should still be able to have empathy for the people of Iran who are currently living in hellish conditions at the hands of the US and Israel.
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hurdurnotavailableApr 11, 2026
+14
This is an inversion of the truth. Iranians lived in hellish conditions before the war. Us and Israel are literally destroying the perpetrators of these conditions.
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SuperDoubleDeckerApr 12, 2026
+1
How'd those leaders get into power in the first place? Seems like I recall someone changing regimes about 50 years ago....
Maybe it'll work this time. It's never worked before. Ever. But maybe this time.....
1
SueSudioApr 11, 2026
+13
Please explain how these weeks of bombing and killing children by the US has improved the situation for the average Iranian.
The regime is still in power.
The destruction of Iran’s missile program does not benefit the average Iranian.
What has improved?
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Mysterious-Recipe810Apr 11, 2026
+6
Removing the IRGC is expressly not the plan. That’s the problem. If it was, and we had a viable path to achieving it, there would be support in the US.
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[deleted]Apr 11, 2026
+2
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Ultra_MetalApr 11, 2026
+1
Hamas, Hezbollah and the Islamic Republic of Iran are responsible for all the deaths they caused by using innocent people as human shields, which is a war crime.
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Blackbeard567Apr 11, 2026
+7
Answer their question
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Humid-Afternoon727Apr 11, 2026
+4
Yeah, that school we tomahawked was totally a human shield, not bad intel
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Objective_Chest_1697Apr 12, 2026
+2
Cool. Give them an AR and 5000 rounds and tell them to take their country back
2
LiveintheArtApr 11, 2026
+6
Yes, it's concerning that US is backing Ghalibaf as the key negotiator for Iran. He's an Islamic hardliner. We need to continue pressuring these fanatics out, and pave a way for a true democracy.
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Kind_Disaster_4639Apr 12, 2026
+4
Might get more traction if you take a trip to Iran.
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not_old_redditorApr 12, 2026
+3
You can't fly to Iran right now
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Piccolo60000Apr 11, 2026
+7
I’m tired of diaspora telling us to go fight their battles for them. Sorry your parents/grandparents lost their money and lands fleeing a tyrannical government, but f*** off.
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I_Never_Use_Slash_SApr 11, 2026
+1
> keep up military pressure
Such a pleasant euphemism for blowing people up.
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pq11333Apr 11, 2026
+1
Always the exiles
1
SY0123Apr 11, 2026
+23
Not all of them. I’m an Iranian Canadian. I don’t like the regime, haven’t visited Iran in ages. I also don’t think this war would benefit the population.
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Ultra_MetalApr 11, 2026
+19
The Iranian people in Iran had even bigger protests against the regime.
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Peacer13Apr 11, 2026
+2
Talk is c****. They should go to Iran themselves and fight.
2
Bad_Day_MooseApr 11, 2026
I find it crazy that just 40ish years ago Iran was basically completely westernized, Islamic Revolution destroyed the potential Iran had to be part of global peace.
0
84CressidaApr 11, 2026
+7
They were our best ally in the region.
Tehran could’ve been a global hub like Dubai is today
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Different_Syrup_6944Apr 11, 2026
+2
They were the best ally to the US because the US had installed and supported that government. Before that, Iran was a functioning democracy, but wouldn't let the US at their oil.
I don't have any ideas or solutions as to how this could have been done better, but we can't pretend this was in aid of the Iranian people
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TheVeryVerityApr 11, 2026
+2
Hmm, I’m going to say not overthrowing a functioning democracy just because they say no like we’re f****** rapists would have led to a better outcome than this
2
FeedbackOther5215Apr 12, 2026
+3
At no point in its history was Iran a democracy, you are horribly uninformed. The Brits installed the original government when the nation boundaries were created.
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Ultra_MetalApr 11, 2026
+3
Iran has never been a democracy.
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not_old_redditorApr 12, 2026
+1
You... You know why they were your best ally, right?
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Coca-karlApr 11, 2026
+1
Yeah the US just had to stir the pot. They couldn't have an oil rich Middle Eastern ally of the USSR taking good care of its people.
1
OldGordApr 12, 2026
+2
Canadian here. Go to Iran or the US if you support this war. Don’t drag us into it. Don’t put my relatives and my family at risk. They don’t give a f*** about your people being killed at the demonstrations, that’s not what this war is about so stop telling us that’s the reason.
You came to Canada to leave this shit behind so leave it the f*** behind. Time to make a new life in a better place and stop ruminating.
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