Since nobody wants to join the American Israel coalition right now, the stupidest thing Iran could do is do any attacks on soils like Germany Italy France that have publicly said no to Trump. Actions like that would push countries to maybe reconsider their stance.
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Mikadomea6 days ago
+14
*Laughs nervously in Vienna with that damn ESC clownshow around the Corner*
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kasady696 days ago
+1
It's not about war. They have to overthrow the government someday. They obliged in front of their mullas, otherwise they are infidels
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Eggcelend5 days ago
+1
Riiiight. The enemy is evil. Even if they arent doing anything evil now, they will do something evil soon therefore we must attack. That might have worked during the crusades to mobilise people, but surely nobody buys into that nowadays.
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_DrDigital_5 days ago
+2
Literally the pretext for the current war.
Also only for those with the memory of a goldfish. \*
Still enough.
\* [https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/24/us-re-asserts-2025-strikes-obliterated-irans-nuclear-programme](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/24/us-re-asserts-2025-strikes-obliterated-irans-nuclear-programme)
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JimmyTheJimJimson5 days ago
-4
*cough* false flag *cough*
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Secure_Activity49446 days ago
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The best time for false flag
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Ragnaroq3146 days ago
+32
Who needs a false flag when you can always count on Islamic fundamentalists slaughtering innocent people
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Eggcelend5 days ago
-6
Like 9/11? A.k.a falsy mcflagface
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shmorke6 days ago
+7
This article is sensationalist. The original NYT article is much more nuanced.
The issue is that German state and national leadership don't agree on the threat level.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/07/world/europe/germany-merz-iran-security-threat-spy.html
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KlausDieterFreddek6 days ago
-6
To be clear, I don't want more war.
But just imagine Trump's face when NATO allies instantly help Germany once attacked by Iran.
I'd love to see that.
Edit: Sorry I meant to answer to OP.
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No_Conversation_93256 days ago
+14
But why? What is Germany doing that might prompt that?
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+86
The regime of Iran hunts down its own dissidents and critics wherever they flee, and also targets Jewish institutions globally, and since Germany has a (I believe) large Iranian diaspora both types of targets are concentrated there. According to the article there is also a growing connection between regime agents and German organized crime networks like biker gangs and human traffickers, which probably makes Germany operationally convenient?
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No_Conversation_93256 days ago
+5
Thank you. Well, that’d be incredibly stupid of Iran to drag more countries to confrontation at this point, unless it’s all orchestrated to do exactly that.
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DateMasamusubi6 days ago
+23
Sleeper agents provide plausible deniability. If some Jews are hit and killed by a lorry, is that Iran at fault or the work of a criminal? What if a synagogue burned down (and has happened)?
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Bowdlerizer696 days ago
+4
It's a regime of islamic fundamentalists who regularly have their own citizens executed over perceived immorality. There are no stupid decisions when you've convinced Allah is on your side.
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No_Conversation_93256 days ago
+2
Religion is for the plebs. Those in charge are well aware of what they are doing, otherwise they wouldn't have been in charge.
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mangalore-x_x5 days ago
+1
Problem of killing the leadership of another country may be that surviving factions act without oversight.
I don't see Iran wanting that, but while it seemingly retained control the more the regime is degraded the more independent radical actors may operate if only to justify or elevate their position.
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Incredible_nutt5 days ago
+1
Additionaly, I can imagine Putin being quite happy about more european focusing on iran instead ukraine
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SrWloczykij6 days ago
+7
There is a lot of Persians who escaped the regime living in Germany (actually everywhere in EU).
Many of them are involved in pro-democracy movement.
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GeorgeWashingfun6 days ago
+39
Germany is filled with non-believers and has Western ideals. That's all these terrorists really care about.
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wotoan6 days ago
+9
Do they hate us for our freedoms?
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valencia866 days ago
-1
Feels like 2001 all over again.
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noir_lord6 days ago
-3
Not really, NATO isn’t invoking article 5 and we aren’t having our people die alongside Americans who then repeatedly spit in our faces and call us cowards.
Not getting dragged into their f****** mess is one of the smarter things our national government has done in my life time, you deal with the mess.
EDIT: it appears I have offended the MAGA folks, I’m impressed you can read, it’s your circus, you elected the clown.
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pathosOnReddit6 days ago
-15
No. It’s not. They care about Germany’s position towards Israel and the large community of diaspora iranians.
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No_Conversation_93256 days ago
+4
Would be so kind to explain the need to throw insults at me? Have I done anything to you?
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Extension-Toe-70276 days ago
+1
Fair enough it's victim blaming that is my point. The Jews in Germany are going to get hit by consequences of something they had no control over and in my opinion the didn't do anything to deserve and they have payed enough
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xmuskorx6 days ago
+15
why sadly? Israel deserves more support against terrorist Iran
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Lanky_Youth_93675 days ago
+2
I don’t know. This feels fearmongering to drag EU into the conflict. I am not challenging that Iranian government won’t try to erase dissent that is outside of their geographical territory. I feel the timing of this article is too transparent
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Hot-Dragonfly38095 days ago
+3
I haven't heard a single thing about Iranian's doing anything here as of lately. This is absolute bs
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Walter-White025 days ago
+1
Iran is 177th from 180 countries when ranked by media freedoms. I don't believe a single word from this "news portal".
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chabawonka5 days ago
+2
Look up who owns this "news" publication...it's Saudi owned propaganda. Ask yourself, why would a Saudi owned publication focus on things like LGBT rights in Iran? Are LGBT rights something Saudis think is important?
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Walter-White025 days ago
+1
I thought the same thing. I mean, who could take anything seriously from a regime's news portal...
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Eggcelend5 days ago
+2
Pfft get out of here with your facts and logic. The others are obviously evil and we (the in-group) are the good guys. Why are you complicating things
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
-4
Iran International is not a legitimate source of information.
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+12
Iran International is actually the most trusted independent news source among Iranians! Ironically (given your comment), the islamic republic declared it a terrorist organization for covering the Mahsa Amini protests, and they've been doing their best to delegitimize it and frame it as a not reputable source ever since. Also the article is citing the NYT and WSJ so feel free to go read those too if you prefer!
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hurdurnotavailable6 days ago
+8
Yes it is.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
-5
It's a Saudi funded news site.
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hurdurnotavailable6 days ago
+10
So? It has real iranians. My friends inside Iran consider Iran International one of the most trustworthy sources, and for good reason. They don't spread regime propaganda, and they understand how the regime works because they've put in extensive effort into figuring that out.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
-8
Your friends? The same friends that didn't rise up and topple the government like everyone swore Iranian would do?
Just because it has Iranians taking Saudi money to spread propaganda doesn't make it legitimate.
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+8
You're mocking Iranians for not managing to topple an armed dictatorship with their bare hands. I don't think you're actually interested in a good faith conversation about media credibility.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
No I am mocking the idea that Iranians are uniformly inline with the thinking of this Saudi propaganda network. In reality they are not at all and this network gives a false impression.
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Extension-Toe-70276 days ago
+3
You just basically accused then of being cowards.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
+4
No and you are being dishonest about what I said.
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+2
Nobody said Iranians are uniform in anything, that's a strawman. The point is that a significant portion of Iranians inside Iran consider it trustworthy, which matters when evaluating a source that covers Iran.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
+1
I highly doubt a lot consider this news source trustworthy and we definitely not consider it trustworthy. It's a Saudi outlet.
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+3
A survey of 27,000 Iranians found it's the most trusted independent news source in Iran. As an Iranian with family inside Iran, I can add ourselves to that count. You can doubt it all you want, that's the data.
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hurdurnotavailable6 days ago
They didn't rise up because they weren't called on that yet. They were explicitly told NOT to rise up, stay home and wait until the right moment comes.
The only people who think Iranians should've risen up, and why haven't they, are those without any clue on what's going on. The only one who can make Iranians rise up is Reza Pahlavi. He will give the call when the right moment comes. But clearly, that moment hasn't arisen yet.
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Chiliicespice6 days ago
+2
Actually, they were fully told to rise up when the US was finished. Well that bombing happened and Iranians said nah we're good.
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Ill-Incident-48426 days ago
+3
This is a dangerous thing to say. People who "rise up" without coordination get killed. We were explicitly told to wait. You're sitting safely somewhere criticizing Iranians for not getting themselves shot, and that's honestly disgraceful.
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Ill-Incident-48425 days ago
+2
You're posting this publicly, where a person inside Iran who manages to access the internet with a VPN might read it. If someone acts on your words and steps outside without a coordinated plan, they can be arrested, tortured, or shot, just like the regime did to thousands of people already. Please be more careful with what you're telling people to do.
And there is extensive, documented evidence that Iranians were explicitly told to wait, this isn't a rumor or something a few people are making up. You dismissing it as if it didn't happen doesn't make it go away. It just makes you look like you haven't done basic research on something you're arguing very confidently about.
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hurdurnotavailable6 days ago
+2
When, by whom?
If it wasn't Reza Pahlavi: Then Iranians don't care. And for good reason.
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Chiliicespice5 days ago
-1
They don't care they are getting bombed? Seriously?
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hurdurnotavailable4 days ago
+2
They care, and they're thankful for it. Also, "small" correction: The primary target and hits of US & israel attacks are military, as hengaw data proves (6-1 military to civilian ratio).
So, USA & Israel literally killing the people that massacred 36500+ iranians in just 2 days in january. Based on current deaths from this war, it would take over 4 additional years of continuous attacks from israel & USA to reach the same amount the iranian regime massacred in just 2 days.
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