Well if this isn't right out of the third hunger games book I don't know what is
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utilizador20213 days ago
+762
And we know how the third book ended... Not good for Katniss sister...
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Odd-Row94853 days ago
+227
But ultimately good for panem
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AbassadorSmallMouth3 days ago
+141
Well we didn’t exactly see how the power vacuum was wrapped up so I’m not sure we can guarantee that.
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sproge3 days ago
+57
The epilogue seemed rather promising, the short look into the future with them together with kids as a happy family, I interpreted that as the author signaling "good times ahead" at least.
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utilizador20213 days ago
+27
However, in the last chapter (before the epilogue) Haymitch says that humans are dumb and quickly forget the horrors of the war and probably, in future, there will be a new dictatorship.
So, it's only promising to Katniss because she had kids (even though she was affraid of having them), so for a time the author seemed to suggest there will be a short period of calm and happiness at least.
It was one of the most powerful books that I read when I was 16. I never read the whole trilogy again because I'm afraid it won't hit hard or that will I find it more juvenile.
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mamadoedawn3 days ago
+19
I read them as an adult, and didn't find them juvenile at all. The weight they held felt heavier, though. Reading from the perspective of a mother just gutted me. It's been years and I'm still not over Roo.
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Eode113 days ago
+19
I'd recommend reading them again as an adult. As a kid/teen they come across as a "special girl saving the world" kinda story. A re-read as an adult shows that Katniss isn't special at all. She just reacts, panics, and flounders her way through the books. The only reason she survives in book 2 is because there's a cabal of revolutionaries working to save her ass, and that's only because she's become a symbol.
Pretty much the first time she actually shows personal agency is at the conclusion of the final book, when she executes *somebody* in front of the cameras.
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ResponsibleCulture433 days ago
+4
They definitely still hold up!
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InfinitelyThirsting2 days ago
+3
They hold up, and the two prequels are incredible.
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hera-fawcett3 days ago
+8
i think u should read it again, fr, w all the knowledge and weight ur life has given u since then.
i cant say that they will hold up- but im sure ull find new ways to identify w them and enjoy them, even if in a different way.
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Monstertelly3 days ago
+3
Holy shit this was hard to read.
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snoosh003 days ago
+62
They were living a pastoral life in a destroyed sector of the country (essentially living in a state by themselves). And we can say "maybe district 13 was providing support" I just don't see that as logistically possible (especially to do it for katniss in particular). I don't think you can take the sunny day in a field to be evidence of a healing society.
I get more of a "Tom Cruise living at his lake cottage in the movie Oblivion" and less "they're building a new society"
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sproge3 days ago
+51
I interpreted Katniss having kids despite being afraid to have them to mean that she was optimistic about the future and that war wasn't looming on the horizon. That is my main indicator over just a sunny day in a field, if the situation wasn't relatively stable with a promising outlook I don't think Katniss would have had any children.
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Odd-Row94853 days ago
+7
That’s fair. Perhaps we can hope for a hunger games story from after snow’s death
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NuttFellas3 days ago
+13
didn't they end up continuing the cycle of violence and inequality but with the roles reversed or am I misremembering
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Samiel_Fronsac3 days ago
+13
The movie version has the protagonist kill the new dictator just before they start a Hunger Game for Capitol kids. The other rebellion leaders get the message and change course.
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utilizador20213 days ago
+24
It's the same in the books. In the end, Katniss realized that the new leader is the same or worse than Snow, so she chose to murder her (since she order the attack that killed her sister), instead of Snow, who got killed by the population.
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hahaz133 days ago
+13
The new dictator was proposing something like that, a one time hunger games involving the children of the Capital.
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Erathen3 days ago
+2
I think you're referring to the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes movie (I think, I barely watched it)
That was set before Katniss
I believe Snow is young
2
snoosh003 days ago
+9
I think that's highly debatable (I'm being serious).
Maybe in the way the book was written it all worked out, maybe if everything went exactly the way Coin wanted and everyone hated Snow as much as they "should" people would accept the truth if it got out...
But honestly, even if you replace a brutal regime, but do it through a false flag, if that info *ever* gets out you have a revolution on your already weak hands.
And while Snow definitely was a piece of shit, deposing him and destabilizing such a weird economy and production system could be a lot more disastrous than just letting the status quo and high control society continue.
(Obviously, just letting authoritarians continue to rule forever isn't a solution either, I'm just saying the false flag child murder double tap bombing followed by a sham trial and public execution [especially if katniss didn't shoot coin as well] is definitely *debatable* as "being for the greater good of the country itself")
(I only watched the movies, maybe the books handle it differently)
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evange3 days ago
+39
For those of us who don't read teen fiction, can you fill us in?
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Helpful_Blood_55093 days ago
+52
They're human shields there at gunpoint
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ThatLeetGuy3 days ago
+23
*holds gun to head* "Form a human chain. Now."
*looks at the camera* "See? They want this."
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PayneTrain1819993 days ago
+56
That was a Prim proper reference
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BeautyInUgly3 days ago
+70
It’s insane how dire this situation is and the propaganda bots on Listnook are basically saying that the Iranians are actually excited to be bombed
And MAGA is buying it up, even though literally NO one wants to be bombed
We are going to see unimaginable horrors soon.
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maxpowers20203 days ago
+97
Iran state media urging children and youth to be human shields while they hide in their bunkers 😂
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your_grandmas_FUPA3 days ago
+47
Almost all of the propaganda bots are supporting Iran. What bots are you seeing?
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LateralEntry3 days ago
+1420
14 million people? So like 1 in 6 people is volunteering for human shield duty? Yeah right.
Also, they wrote all that but didn’t show pics?
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meechmeechmeecho3 days ago
+339
Pics or it didn’t happen.
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rotomangler3 days ago
+99
I’m sure they’ll release a Lego version soon
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Dry-Exchange47353 days ago
+12
I saw pictures on the Novara live earlier. No I can't be bothered to find you a link but it's on YouTube. Al-Jazeera also likely has pictures
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EastHat59612 days ago
+2
It said 14 million signed up and they could confirm there were dozens there 🤣🤣
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Garfield_and_Simon3 days ago
+45
Yeah this is as unreliable as American news
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Saberinbed3 days ago
+59
I call bullshit. 95% of iranians hate their regime, let alone "millions" supporting them.
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vulcanstrike3 days ago
+106
95% certainly don't hate the regime. A plurality, possibly, but even insane people like Trump have a die hard 20-30% that will support out of sunk cost fallacy.
Also, Trump threatening to wipe your country from the world has a way of shoring up support for the regime that's defending you. All Trump's war has done is five the Iranian regime way more legitimacy and caused the world to respect what they can do when provoked - Iran doesn't need nukes to threaten the world, they just have to disrupt the oil enough that they make the western economies bleed.
Thanks Trump, you absolute moron.
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HormuzVengeance3 days ago
+70
I’ll give you my two cents.
Maybe not 95%, but a vast VAST majority of us hate the regime. If I were to estimate based on my own lived experience - maybe 85%+.
The only people who support the regime are the ones affiliated with it, or the ones who are fundamentalist religious.
People inside Iran have the sentiment that bombs are scary, but regime is scarier.
The only people that feel that islamic republic has legitimacy are the same ones that gave them legitimacy prior to the war, which unfortunately has been a lot of global institutions that’s led to disenfranchising a lot of us Iranian diaspora.
There’s also the issue of the vast decades long propaganda machine by the islamic republic that’s infiltrated into the leftist and more progressive zeitgeist.
I’ve always considered myself a leftist, but when the January massacre happened in Iran, all of the institutions that I considered were close to my political beliefs were suddenly denying that it happened, or criticising me for bringing attention to it.
Similarly, after the war started I saw a lot of progressive movements carry khamenei’s posters and the islamic republic flag. The propaganda machine has conflated being anti right wing with being anti western and similarly sane washed their own brutality which has worked unfortunately very well.
Trump is vile. There’s no denying that, but he’s always been a narcissistic liar who tries to portray himself as what he perceives to be a strongman. Which is why it’s so frustrating that people who constantly recognise his bullshitting are now taking his tweet and statement as the gospel truth.
He was also saying that negotiations were going well whilst the IRGC leadership were being taken out. What he says on twitter is not necessarily reflected in real life, and none of us as individuals civilians are privy to the actual military tactics happening in the pentagon.
Trump is a moron and a despicable person. islamic republic are evil incarnate. Both are true statements.
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Lumpy_Routine71003 days ago
+27
Most leftist online propaganda comes from Chinese and Iranian sources. Young, progressive, well-intentioned people see it on their social media platforms and eat it up. It's that and the organisers of these protesting groups take funding from international leftist organisations, which surprise surprise comes out of CCP and IRGC coffers.
This is why you have feminists defending the Iranian regime and fundamental Islam even though it makes literally zero sense for them to have any opinion other than hostility towards Iranian government. It's all been co-opted to be 'against' current Western order rather than 'for' any actual planned world order system, and progressively both sides are moving away from the rule-based global order.
The right does all this too but I'm sure there's no illusion they care for the Iranian people, only their own self-interests.
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Animaleyz2 days ago
+5
No sorry. There's a difference between defending the regime and not wanting war.
Most people everywhere, would be happy if a more benign ruler took over. But us bombing them isn't the way to get there.
That's the point.
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HormuzVengeance3 days ago
+10
You’re precisely correct. Nothing else I can add to your comment.
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fretkat3 days ago
+3
36% of the US was favourable of Trump just 2 weeks ago, so even more than 20-30%
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ThoughtShes183 days ago
+3
You can absolutely hate the regime **and** trump. I don’t believe they suddenly think “eh, last week they executed my friends for protesting peacefully, but I’ll support them now because of Trump”
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the_ok_doctor3 days ago
+4
Hating the regime is one thing but wanting your power/electricity to stay available is another. Though is still probably just propoganda
4
oicuvmch3 days ago
+21
lol 95% I call bullshit on that
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szczszqweqwe3 days ago
+16
No regime would hold with only 5% of supporters, there has to be like at least 20% of them.
Still, 14millions is most likely BS.
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Khshayarshah3 days ago
+21
They can when they perform the largest massacres of the 21st century to stay in power.
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OmmmShantiOm3 days ago
+1907
They say 14 millions people joined the effort in one sentence. The next sentence they say pictures of dozens of people at various power plants..... Not sure if Iranian news agencies can be trusted tbh.
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s1l3nt_k1lla3 days ago
+726
Nothing associated or affiliated with that regime can be trusted honestly. The issue is the Iranian people are stuck between a rock (US and Israeli strikes, propaganda, a chaotic opposition that is barely unified) and a hard place (the brutal dictatorship that has held them hostage for 47 years).
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cement_brick2143 days ago
+123
Chaotic is an optimistic way of putting it. Most of them online are rich 2nd gen US-born immigrants who have never tasted the oppression of the regime like the current Pahvali. All of the actual opposition within Iran was beaten into submission or executed.
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hurdurnotavailable3 days ago
+80
The opposition within iran is practically 90% of the people there. And that's putting it on the lower end of the estimate. They've not been beaten into submission. If you kill the child of two parents, and then try to sell them the body for years worth of salary, you don't beat them into submission. You create enemies that are willing to die to get rid of you.
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typhon06663 days ago
+6
Just go with the one with the cool sounding. The immortal guards has a certain ring to it.
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Positive-Road39033 days ago
+4
know this, a tomahawk cruise missile doesn't discriminate whether you're pro or against the regime.
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flat6NA3 days ago
+32
And to add, it’s not 8:00 yet. OK everyone it’s 7:45, let’s get out of here - because by that time the planes have or haven’t launched anyway.
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szczszqweqwe3 days ago
+38
It's an opressive regime at war.
Just because we can't trust Trump or Israel it doesn't mean Iran is trustworthy.
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piichan143 days ago
+9
Very frustrating to see the regime being celebrated or praised online and people won't even bother to read up on its history and how the Iranians want it abolished.
9
szczszqweqwe2 days ago
+3
I think it's complicated, in recent years Israelis did a honestly disgusting crimes against humanity, and Trump really pissed off a lot of people around the globe.
People are kind of cheering for anyone who opposes, even if those who oppose aren't better than that.
At least that's what I think.
3
GarlicRoastedChicken3 days ago
+3
It's Listnook. IRGC bots are hard at work and Listnook gobbles it all up. Nothing new, really.
3
zefiax3 days ago
+14
They said 14m have volunteered to fight, not form human chains.
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phanfare3 days ago
+9
>Not sure if Iranian news agencies can be trusted tbh.
Really, you're *not sure?*
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HormuzVengeance3 days ago
+29
The occupying terrorist regime has cut the internet for civilians. It’s 1000+ hours now that Iranians have had no internet.
EVERYTHING that comes out of Iran by Iran is carefully curated terrorist propaganda.
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browsk3 days ago
+5
I believe that would be the entire population of Tehran there then
5
Green_Rays3 days ago
+7
Badly written article. The 14 million is the number of peoole who enlisted as reservists.
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just_stretching3 days ago
+3
We will pretend like they haven't lied for decades
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gimp2x3 days ago
+682
The US isn’t going to destroy the power plants, they’ll drop the graphite bombs over them that cause major electrical shortages and put it out of service, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb
They did this before Iraq invasion, did this in Serbia, and presumably in Venezuela
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LateralEntry3 days ago
+286
Wow, that tech is pretty cool! I mean, from a technical standpoint, not the human suffering, but seems like it would save lives not directly blowing up the equipment
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[deleted]3 days ago
+133
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BraveDevelopment2533 days ago
+7
Not how it works. This will just cause non permanent faults that will make the breakers trip and shut everything down. It will take a little while for them to clean it off and be able to re-energize stuff without it tripping again but nothing will be permanently damaged and they can turn it back on within a few weeks without replacing anything.
The only caveat to this is their protection schemes work to quickly trip the breakers but with as many dust storms they have they more than likely have that dialed in. Biggest risk is the nuclear power plant shutting down safely but even that should be fine and I wouldn't be surprised if Russia already idled it and inserted the control rods to shut it down before they pulled their people out last week.
7
LateralEntry3 days ago
+60
Better than people going boom
60
Odd-Row94853 days ago
+126
No electricity and no water is a very bad problem very quickly
126
CumGuzlinGutterSluts3 days ago
+43
Yes now the suffering is prolonged without access to potable water, toilets, food preservation, medical services or fans/ac!
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kcrab913 days ago
+15
Directly from the link above.
As water supply systems and sewage treatment systems depend on electricity, widespread outbreaks of cholera and other waterborne diseases, causing large numbers of civilian deaths, have in the past been the direct consequence of this bomb's use.
That’s why attacking power plants is considered a war crime unless the power plant is directly tied to military support. And even then, civilian suffering cannot outweigh military advantage.
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TheCynicEpicurean3 days ago
+4
Attacking power plants in a country that already experiences a drought and relies is nothing short of diabolical, whatever one might think of the regime.
4
scytob3 days ago
+9
not really as the impact is pretty much the same at the macro level - no electricity or water
9
Complete-Sort16173 days ago
+3
20 people dying from a bomb going off versus 1000’s of people dying from heatstroke, lack of refrigerated medicines. “Graphite bombs save lives.”
3
ItsTyrrellsAlt3 days ago
+9
Arguably, but the cost to rebuild a power plant after being rendered completely inoperable by a foreign attack means that things like healthcare, education and poverty reduction measures will take a hit.
Let's say your 2GW CCGT plant costs 2 billion USD - Iran's health budget is about 20bn for it's 80 million people. The loss of 10% of that, as well as the economic loss of having power shortages will probably result in a higher death toll than if 50 workers at the plant died in an explosion.
9
deezbiksurnutz3 days ago
+10
You definitely don't need to replace everything. Most of a nuclear power plant is steam and cooling equipment. Its going to ruin their day but its not that bad
10
interkin3tic3 days ago
+32
I think pretty much all modern military tech can be appreciated at a science and engineering level whole while finding the application and priorities abhorrent.
Like "wow, that's a clever solution to something that isn't a problem and I'm mad we spent money on that rather than like preventing climate change."
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I_spread_love_butter3 days ago
+93
People whose life depend on electrical equipment like respirators probably disagree.
93
EasterZombie3 days ago
+93
If the alternative is directly bombing the plant, resulting in the same power outage but also direct kills from the explosion, then no it’s still a better alternative. Not good, none of this is good.
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radiohead-nerd3 days ago
+4
just kills them slower
4
Green_Juggernaut_4103 days ago
+10
I think thats why they said "not the human suffering"
10
radiohead-nerd3 days ago
+3
and water pump stations, etc
3
HaximusPrime3 days ago
+109
> As water supply systems and sewage treatment systems depend on electricity, widespread outbreaks of cholera and other waterborne diseases, causing large numbers of civilian deaths, have in the past been the direct consequence of this bomb's use.
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akkaneko113 days ago
+45
My friends dad is in Tehran on a bipap machine. Makes the countdown a lot more stressful.
45
HamasDaddyOnFire3 days ago
+8
Hope he's got a generator.
8
gimp2x3 days ago
+22
Serbia fixed their grid in under 24hrs when attacked this way
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Biotech_wolf3 days ago
+4
I thought cold restarts of a power grid take longer than that to achieve.
4
Conscious_Run_6803 days ago
+9
Spain did a restart of the whole grid in less than a day, but there was no crazy guys sending big booms their way, probably in a war scenario that would be harder.
9
UnoriginalStanger3 days ago
+6
Spain also had international connections to help kick their grid back into action.
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Username_Query_Null3 days ago
+9
Oh they’ll kill people, just indirectly.
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JediRhyno3 days ago
+5
That’s interesting I’ve never heard of it. Does everything it effect have to be permanently replaced or can they be fixed and gotten back to new within some time?
5
spasske2 days ago
+2
They basically short circuit the equipment and it locks itself out to prevent further damage. It *can* have a quick restart time if things don’t get too damaged.
If the electric system is not very well built, equipment fails from the short circuit and can be dark for quite a while.
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gimp2x3 days ago
+4
They can replace by sourcing things from china/russia and bringing over bridges
Hence the bridge threat
4
Umonroe33 days ago
+19
I think you may be underestimating how evil and how stupid this administration is
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OozeNAahz3 days ago
+25
Guessing that still won’t be good for the health of those surrounding it. Hope they have masks.
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gimp2x3 days ago
+43
It’s thin strings of graphite windings, look at the pictures on the Wikipedia page
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Erathen3 days ago
+27
Not good, but not the worst
Graphite is inert and biocompatible. You'd really need long-term exposure to develop chronic illness
But yeah, it's probably going to irritate lungs acutely
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SeaCounter95163 days ago
+18
How? Its strings of graphite
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TheOriginalBroCone3 days ago
+34
Don't expect Listnookors to know what they're talking about. They operate on pure speculation and then speculate further from there whilst claiming its fact.
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Seemorebuds3 days ago
+11
And they say irony is dead
From the linked Wikipedia
>Graphite is a sufficiently good conductor and the current flowing in the fiber immediately vaporizes it, creating a thin channel of gas, ionized by the high temperature,
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CmonTouchIt3 days ago
+12
read the wiki. they vaporize
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Erathen3 days ago
+5
I just told you
They're inert they don't react chemically with human tissue. We use graphite in medical devices. Being that they're inert, they typically aren't easily encapsulated
And your lungs... quite obviously have the ability to remove foreign bodies through coughing and using mucus to move debris out of the lungs
Therefore, it's unlikely to cause long-term issues from acute exposure. But naturally if you're breathing it all the time, that's a different story
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CuteApproach3 days ago
+106
“They’ve got the plant but we’ve got the power”
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anotherThrowaway34463 days ago
+24
Lisa needs braces.
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clarksa03 days ago
+13
Dental plan!
13
anotherThrowaway34463 days ago
+8
Lisa needs braces!
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SmartQuokka3 days ago
+2
Dental plan!
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JackedUpReadyToGo3 days ago
+13
Now do Classical Gas.
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my_name_is_juice3 days ago
+5
Now do Classical Gas!
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Khamvom3 days ago
+113
Context:
Iran’s state-run news agency (IRNA) displayed footage of Iranians forming human chains around the country’s only operational nuclear power plant located in Bushehr.
Reportedly, there has been a big social media campaign (most likely initiated by the Iranian government) to have civilians form human chains around critical energy infrastructure around the country, likely in an effort to deter U.S. and Israeli strikes.
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DABOSSROSS93 days ago
+56
I am confused how is their social media, is internet available again in Iran?
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phred_6663 days ago
+49
Only within the country. No outside connections.
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WeTheApes173 days ago
+27
its a huge LAN party
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Khamvom3 days ago
+26
Internet access is strictly controlled by the state, so supporters and hardliners will likely have more access than others.
There’s also unauthorized/banned methods like Starlink.
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nn6663 days ago
+5
Always was on their own network.
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weedexpat3 days ago
+3
There are numerous starlink terminals in the country.
3
Khaganate233 days ago
+3
It's similar to China, but worse.
3
Khaganate233 days ago
+7
It's likely people forced by the basij or the Iraqi militias they invited in January, taking selfies like proud occupiers.
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Acceptable_Tea_36853 days ago
+14
The Iranian government urging their own citizens to essentially commit suicide in the name of their country is wild. It’s one thing to do it out of love for your people and country and another thing for your government to tell you to go put yourself in harms way while they themselves, I’m sure, are in a bomb shelter somewhere.
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Foodspec3 days ago
+29
That’s one hell of a bluff call…
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mehVmeh3 days ago
+72
14 million people is absolute BS. Human shields are a disgusting "tactic". F*** the regime.
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BasicMatter73393 days ago
+12
Yeah, i can believe they made human chains around power plants but 14 million people? Thats bs.
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mehVmeh3 days ago
+3
Yeah I've seen a few videos where civilians are outside power plants, but the 14 million is just regime psy ops.
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Jibber_Fight3 days ago
+6
As an American who knows Iranians, all of this makes me sad. We are very much similar people and have been waiting for like sixty years to just be cool with each other. It’s so stupid and annoying that our governments are assholes.
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KingRo483 days ago
+12
And here we are, complaining about the price of petrol/gas……
we are quite pathetic forgetting about people losing their life in this American 🇺🇸 made shitshow
12
7287663 days ago
+172
Willingly, or “go do this or we’ll kill your family”?
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Dunky_Arisen3 days ago
+78
Could be either, honestly. Or both.
If the Iranian power grid fails, that means mass death either way. Might as well make a statement with your last moments instead of starving to death or being killed by a gang for supplies.
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fec22453 days ago
+4
The IRGC is unpopular but that doesn't mean they don't have supporters, they have a base.
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OozeNAahz3 days ago
+17
Does it really matter? We kill them and either way it is horrific.
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JesterCel3 days ago
+18
Can people not protest to save their infrastructure? What the f*** is wrong with you people
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DABOSSROSS93 days ago
+19
Once Iran opens the internet the citizens of Iran can let us know…
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Khamvom3 days ago
+32
Sure, but this is likely being organized by the IRGC and Iranian government. Not some “spontaneous” act of protest by your average Iranian citizen.
Average Iranian’s protested out in the streets and we saw the direction that went…
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MVP_Legend_873 days ago
+81
The alternative title is Iran commits war crimes using civilians as human shields.
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maxofJupiter13 days ago
+64
The amount of people that are supporting this or normalizing this is staggering. Any of these deaths are on the Islamic Republic that is encouraging this. Normal societies try to move their civilians away from harm, not surrounding known targets.
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MVP_Legend_873 days ago
+26
Iran's greatest strength is how they are able to manipulate the media. They did it with Hamas against Israel, and they're doing it here with the US.
Notice how everything the US or Israel does is a war crime, but there's no mention of this when Iran does the same thing. The messaging is framed as "If the US does this, it's ok for Iran to do \_\_\_\_". Meanwhile that justification hides the fact that when Iran attacks other countries, even ones not involved in the war, it's acceptable because the US hit somewhere in Iran.
And here, even the messaging doesn't suggest that there's anything illegal about encouraging civilians to do this.
The problem is for all their strengths, the US and Israel are absolutely terrible about sending out a message and using the media effectively. Every time Iran violates something or commits a war crime, they should emphasize this.
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Nyan_Man3 days ago
+14
Fortunately the US has non-leathal methods to damage the reactor, they can simply wait out a safe window for civilians.
It is however disgusting how people are so in love with hating trump that they can’t stop themselves letting it slip they support Irans use of human shields as “it could be worse for them, at least they’re not trump supporters”.
These people project so hard when they feel completely safe in their 1st world homes where they’ll never experience what Iranians do if they uttered a hint of being against the regime.
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Solugad3 days ago
+7
Its gotten very bad on Listnook. I kind of wonder if most of these people even care to understand what this shit really is.
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wioneo3 days ago
+3
> I kind of wonder if most of these people even care to understand what this shit really is.
They do not. Americans very rarely care about foreign politics. If this wasn't affecting oil prices, then there would be dramatically less interest.
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kr4ckers3 days ago
+15
I don't think a bomber pilot high up in the sky will care for the random moving fence.
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WildRacoons3 days ago
+8
The point is to get it out in the news for the world to hear what the decision makers do
8
[deleted]2 days ago
+5
They volunteer under duress…the IRCG are crazy fanatics
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martenic3 days ago
+119
Worthless waste of human life. All in the service of a few select lunatics from the upper echelons of this weird society.
119
SP15703 days ago
+102
Lunatics vs Peadophiles: 2026 in a nutshell
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fadvex3 days ago
+68
Lunatic Pedophiles vs Lunatic Pedophiles
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Bubba_Pilks3 days ago
+18
Spider man pointing meme
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Due_Arachnid29753 days ago
+2
yeah that sums it up pretty damn well
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Aethericseraphim3 days ago
+5
This. Mullahs have just much of a liking for little children as Pedophilius the Orange.
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Saberinbed3 days ago
+5
Dont forget raping their prisoners before executing them
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whachamacallme3 days ago
+27
You may need to specify who the lunatics are and who the pedos are. Iran has almost no boundary on age of consent; which is based on… well lets not go there.
https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/Documents/Issues/Women/WRGS/ForcedMarriage/NGO/JusticeForIran.pdf
Same for neighboring Iraq: https://www.walkfree.org/news/2025/iraqs-new-law-allowing-children-as-young-as-9-to-marry-undermines-women-and-girls-rights/
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FallenAdvocate2 days ago
+2
Listnook has been begging Iran to release Epstein files and call Trump a pedo, while forgetting pedofilia is a common everyday thing there and they even worship a person who married a 6 year old, or 9 year old, age doesn't matter at that point.
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MachineSpirited70853 days ago
+2
Season 26 is gonna be rough but season 27 is pure chaos
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Trick_Math420693 days ago
+33
Many more will die of the power grid is destroyed. Its worth trying.
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nekonight3 days ago
+14
US just destroyed several hundred million dollars worth of their own equipment to save 1 serviceman.
Iran just told millions of their citizens to act as a human shield on things they have been targeting in other countries.
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I_spread_love_butter3 days ago
+5
To be fair human life is priceless IMO.
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FrozenHatsets3 days ago
+11
So... Am I supposed to be for or against a government asking civilians to stand next to infrastructure that they strongly believe to be the target of military ordinance? If this is an organic movement of civilians, they should have the right to put their lives on the line for their beliefs, but a government telling civilians to actively stand in harms way is a bit...
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DueExample523 days ago
+2
You are supposed to be against war crimes and against unprovoked attacks on sovereign nations. The rest is just a distraction from the main topic. War isn’t a football match, you don’t need to be in favour of a regime to have a critical opinion on the actions of their enemy.
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mad-data3 days ago
+17
What a crazy title. As if Iranians form these human chains voluntary on their free will, and not being sent there by IRGC.
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aHairyWhiteGuy3 days ago
+22
The fact that the Iranian government is telling its youth to make a human shield is insane. They literally don’t care for their people at all!
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Working_Noise_17823 days ago
+6
How does UN 1949 law on war treat civilians when they decide to protect a legitimate target with their body?
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CvieYltidrekoof3 days ago
+3
My country’s policy is “total defence” and the handbook is clear: **avoid any action that has the chance of labeling you as a combatant**.
Civilians are to remain in their roles as civilians unless directed otherwise by the government during national defence.
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hjsne3 days ago
+3
Iirc the target is still legitimate, and Iran using civilians as human shields is a war crime.
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CrazyButRightOn3 days ago
+3
Guaranteed it’s not the anti-regimers that are dreaming of martyrdom.
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Boltboys3 days ago
+11
“Quick, form a human shield. When you die we can use it to drum up sympathy. “
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Novel_Relief_58783 days ago
+13
Of their own free will, no doubt!
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brozoburt3 days ago
+9
That regime would never puppeter the people or threaten them with death and maybe turn the wifi off. Nope, not them!
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Ok-Commercial-68653 days ago
+5
No pictures backing up the story?
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despenser4123 days ago
+7
Trump is a pedophile caught in a billionaire sex trafficking scandal. He hasn't cared about human beings in a long time.
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HamasDaddyOnFire3 days ago
+12
Weird description of the Islamic Republic using human sheilds. Their proxies do it, especially Hamas, and they have used children for landmine clearing before (no, seriously, look it up), so it isnt surprising.
Look at the difference in tone of reporting, though. Ordering children to go to sites likely to be bombed is pretty terrible...where is the international media condemnation?
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Dubelj3 days ago
+5
I've heard they also plant schools within 100m of high value military targets which either prevents attacks altogether or creates high yield sympathy propaganda.
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notstarman3 days ago
+4
I have seen people say that the IRC's draft age is 12.
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HamasDaddyOnFire3 days ago
+3
Can't speak to that, but they had a special young martyrs group of children during the Iran/Iraq war whose job it was to run through minefields before the soldiers did.
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SnakeySneak993 days ago
+4
If they think this administration values human life they are gravely mistaken. Trump chickened out again anyway.
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Old_Idea45663 days ago
+11
Anyone showing up at these powerplants should not forget that two months ago the same government asking them to come join a human shield killed about 60k of them just because they said "Boooo, government, booo!"
It must suck so bad to be Iranian right now. Could be worse though, you could be an American who voted for Trump.
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Original_Weakness8553 days ago
+7
Could be worse huh? Iran government is killing their people. Iran enemies may start killing its people. And you think Iranian people are better off than Americans just because they voted for Trump? You must be as brain dead as Trump voters but worse.
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silentinthemrning3 days ago
+20
I think the citizens of Iran might disagree.
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Sammsim3 days ago
+7
I thought it was 30k or maybe 50k ? Why does the number always change?
I don't doubt that a lot of people died, but it is strange that there seems to be so much disagreement over how many.
Not to mention that the Epstein war will kill way more people, but we're the good guys so it's fine
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voprosy3 days ago
+5
The number keeps changing because there’s no proof. It’s all speculation on both sides and most importantly on who conducted the killing.
If the governement did it, and if it was in the numbers purported, then certainly their opponents (inside and outside the country) would leak the proof and we would’ve seen it??
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Any-Calligrapher28663 days ago
+2
Google "Big Lie"
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Din0zavr3 days ago
+4
The number I heard was 5k, which is already too much, idk what's the point of making it 10 times more.
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Sammsim3 days ago
+6
5k makes the most sense in my opinion, but that's not evil enough so let's just Ten times it (i guess?)
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homeworksucks643 days ago
+8
"60k"
do you really believe this
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yellow_gangstar3 days ago
+3
oh right, you could be being bombed by the world's leading superpower or, worse yet, you could be a citizen of the leading superpower and have to content with seeing genocides happen in your phone 😱
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HarEr893 days ago
+10
There will be a ceasefire at any moment. Trump is making TACO again.
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SamuraiMike813 days ago
+2
Oh, thats not good
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DeMiko3 days ago
+2
Yeah, because we’ve shown so much restraint binging civilians
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swe3nytodd3 days ago
+2
Totally by themselves and not forced at gun point at all.
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SickNoise3 days ago
+2
so what ? trump doesn't care about civilian deaths
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GAZ0822 days ago
+2
Neither the Iranian regime.
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hellomumbo3693 days ago
+3
Lol that chain wouldn't stop a strike regardless. People forget how accurate the American strikes are that the chain would probably at worse suffer severe hearing loss
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ProfessionalWaltz7843 days ago
+4
More likely Iran forms chains of humans at power plants. Not that I endorse an illegal war or any tyrant actions…
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Adavanter_MKI3 days ago
+10
You can't trust anything that comes from this regime... that goes for Iran too.
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faolages3 days ago
+3
If their options are to die because they can’t get water and power or die from being bombed it’s not like it’s a good choice. Even if they don’t support the regime this is signing a death warrant to 93 million people. There is not enough water in the Middle East without desalination plants for a modern pop to survive.
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ux3l3 days ago
+3
Tbh, bombing power plants would have gone too far.
Let the downvotes and whatabouts come
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