Iran’s crumbling economy is the regime’s greatest weakness with prices up 40% since the war began while authorities worry about making payroll

> heavily propagandized point They had protests 4 months ago for economic reasons. It's not a theory, it happened, and I'm not sure the war improved the economy of the country. It doesn't mean that the government will step down. But clearly there is an economic crisis right now in Iran. The situation in Russia wasn't always good but they never reached such high inflation or such protests. Imagine 40% inflation in your country and people saying "no no, it's not a crisis, it's fine". I'm sure Trump could be saying that.

Unlike Iran, Russia was never on the verge of running out of water from depleting their water supplies.. and this was all before the war lol

Russia basically is, their economy is in the gutter, they're sacrificing countless Russians. They're looking at 1 million casualties injured or killed. That alone is going to f*** up their future. They're killing off the next generations at this rate. Not to mention Ukraine is now taking back territory and making substantial gains lately. Getting so bad Putin has shut off the internet in its major cities, he's getting paranoid!

??? The two situations aren't even comparable. Russia is Moscow. You can burn the entire countryside, as long as there are utilities in Moscow and the prices are barely affected there, Russia is going to remain standing. Running out of money doesn't run Moscow out of water or food, the damage can be spread to far less important areas. Russia is burning the country's future, it is creating a deep pit for itself that cannot be crawled out of but that will sustain Moscow for years, effortlessly. Tehran doesn't have the same umbrella. Water and food are commodities. The city is vulnerable to a classic siege.

The biggest problem imo is the number of global economies under pressure, and how bad the toll of the wars are on infrastructure and commodities.

Reminder that in 2025 Iran had [45% inflation ](https://tradingeconomics.com/iran/inflation-cpi)(and their lowesst inflation print was 19.8% in like 2020). One of the big proximate causes for the protests was the Bazaaris basically throwing in with the protestors and largely economics was seen as a driver. This is what Russia's [inflation](https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/inflation-cpi) has looked for the last few years (peaked at 17%) Even without the war Iran was on shaky financial footing (and if your an oppressive regime, you need lots of money to pay your foot soldiers to keep 90m people in check)

No, russia’s economy is not about to collapse any day now and the notion that people have been repeatedly saying that, is the actual propaganda here. There’s been widespread acknowledgement that the sanctions on Russia have not been as immediately impactful as originally hoped. But it’s undeniable that their economy is experiencing a long-term weakening due to high inflation, labor shortages, extreme military expenditures, etc. Before this war kicked off, they had seen consecutive months of falling GDP. The temporary suspension of US sanctions has provided some short-term relief, but that’s been neutralized to a large extent by Ukrainian attacks on their oil infrastructure. And that suspension has ended and the sanctions are now back in full effect. Iran’s economic issues are hardly new news and they will have gotten worse since the war started. And this blockade will now put considerable further strain / pressure on them.

I think the Russian point is centered around a long collapse in certain regions of Russia, as male populations are either emigrating or dying in the war. So the impacts will be felt 10/15 years from now, rather than imminent decay.

Russia has more access to the rest of the world compared to Iran. It borders China ,through which it is able to export oil and gas and import Chinese electronics and components. Iran has no such access anymore. Afghanistan is a risky way to try and do trade. Pakistan too. The loss of Syria means that access to the Med no longer exists. The Caspian is an option but you can bet it is being monitored right now. Russia also has a more diversified economy. Iran gets 85% of its revenues from oil and gas. Russia does not need rebuilding as it has not experienced the widespread destruction Iran has. Iran desperately needs money to rebuild even basic things like steel and cement factories Also Russia does have the technology to keep its oil pumping. Iran has been sanctioned for so long, it can barely keep its gas production up leave alone oil and from what I have been reading, the terminals Trump bombed have failed. They do not have the parts to do the repairs. Iran's economy is about to go full Venezuela

Russia is actively collapsing right now, people just don't understand what that means. As long as they are in war economy they will continue funding the war easily even if the economy is in the shitter. The Germany economy was growing the whole way through WW2 even though people were literally starving in Germany. GDP is essentially a measurement of economic activity, not efficiency. Russians will end up spending more labour and resources on military up-keep, and all other economic sections will be gutted. This will undoubtedly continue to errode the Russian ability to wage war by reducing morale, arms availability and military recruitment. Ukraine is already producing more drones than Russia as of 2026, which is absurd considering the population difference and resource availability between countries. Russia is operating at an abysmal efficiency at the moment.

Unlike Russia the Iranians don't have a choice but to show up and defend themselves. I mean where are they going to run to.

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Yeah, it seems their internet troll army will be the last to get laid off. Propaganda is all they have left.

He'll be wearing flowing robes and have a halo of light as he descends down from the heavens

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or genuinely a maga supporter. These days it's difficult to tell.

All true and agreed, but why did my money and my countrymen die for that?

But as long as the billionaire-controlled mass media doesnt announce it in a big panicky headline, we'll stay convinced we're still doing totally okay and surely better than everyone else.

China is still buying from Venezuela. It isn't "gone".

I guess it's a possibility. But China rarely wants to intervene as much in other countries I think. For me it's a bit like Russia & Assad, they needed him but not the point of saving him, and they quickly wanted to work with the next president of Syria. China might do the same thing if Iran gets a new government (which is all but guaranteed, crumbling economy doesn't mean regime change). It's also not that big of a risk for China I think, because they can buy oil in dozens of countries, even Russia. They even import american oil: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/mapped-where-china-gets-its-oil/ Iran: 11%, Venezuela: 2%. I'm not sure it's a real debate. When you watch the news you somethimes think that China imports 50% of its oil from Iran and 50% from Venezuela. It's not really the truth. But obviously it has consequences for their dependence on non-US aligned countries.

They literally had generational protests two months ago as a result of those economic conditions and had to gun down 30k of their own citizens to put them down. Their people are "adapting" to the conditions by demanding the removal of the regime...

People then tried to protest the regime which resulted in the government gunning down 30 thousand of their own citizens....

Not even close

The regime killed tens of thousand of people when they protested.  Tens of thousands more would have been killed too.  Sitting back and watching people die doesn't seem like a good course of action.  You should at least try to help.  The fact so many people are complaining about high gas prices while Iranians were being killed shows how privileged much of the world is.  Europe worried about gas and oil prices too, so they kept buying from Russia while Ukraine was taking all the punches.  At some point, people have to make sacrifices to make progress.

Easy to say when your not staring down the barrel of an assault rifle.

Shhhhhhh look the president is Jesus! All is good in America! D'aww look he got doordash!

The population of invaded nations have always struggled economically. How is this a new thing?