With creepy neanderthal idiots on both sides, what realistically are we supposed to expect from these "negotiations."
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Lopsided-Sentence56710 hr ago
+1
The Iranian side has PhDs, apparently
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alematt11 hr ago
+1
At this time just so following the news etc. take some time for yourself and ignore it. It's not worth your energy and focus on the things you can control. Easier said than done in know
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NSlocal1 day ago
+158
Why the hell is Kushner going? They run shit like the mafia.
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FigSideG1 day ago
+48
Nepotism and corruption. Kushner has made billions off the presidency.
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SP15701 day ago
+9
Read the files: JK is the real president
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Public-Position77111 day ago
+25
He heard the tikka masala at the hotel was amazing.
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Electrifying20171 day ago
+13
Pretty sure that’s why Iran’s foreign minister went.
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Lopsided-Sentence56710 hr ago
+1
Should've gone to India then
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dragon_idli1 day ago
+26
Ya, the panel has two of its members who are staunch israeli supporters. One with family ties to netanyahu.
No wonder the talks go the way they did.
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[deleted]1 day ago
+1
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dragon_idli1 day ago
+6
Kushner. Family friends with netanyahu. Kushner family have donations to west bank institutes, jewish hospitals, education centers. Kushner companies have active investments in banks and other ventures in israel. Jared's father charles Kushner had political ties with israel leadership etc...
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Viva_La_Revolucion-1 day ago
+4
They run shit like they do their slumlord apartments
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Stifffmeister111 day ago
+4
Who they doing to meet in pak then i guess they could just make a phone call than 17 hour journey
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Scholastic_nobody1 day ago
+163
They were never supposed to meet Trump just manipulated the market
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BishSlapDiplomacy1 day ago
+37
The market’s what?
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WillDigForFood1 day ago
+7
The name of the market is Bubba.
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a_case_of_everything1 day ago
+1
taint
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susulaima23 hr ago
+3
RIP Brent crude prices on Monday
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slightlyspecial11 hr ago
+1
Punctuation is free.
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29100061047802123 hr ago
+11
Sending your unelected son in law probably isn't helping
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LewisKIII1 day ago
+28
Good why would Iran trust them? Iran was talking with them two months ago and the US bombed them!
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mickeyt11 day ago
+20
How does that make this good?
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LewisKIII1 day ago
-8
It makes it good for Iran because Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner are flat out liars and Kushner is not even a confirmed member of the US government!
All Trump has done is lie about negotiations with Iran. Trump agreed to Iran's ten point plan weeks ago to get the first meeting and then realized it was basically total surrender of the US.
These negotiations are going no where it's good for Iran they didn't meet the US because the US wants all its demands met and they are in no position whatsoever to even ask.
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mickeyt11 day ago
+13
Okay it’s good because you’re openly pro-Iran. Got it
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ngunter720 hr ago
+5
Do you think America is the good guy in this?
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mickeyt120 hr ago
+1
I think the Iranian regime is unequivocally bad. I also think nearly every war ends in negotiation, so talks breaking down are absolutely a bad thing because that lengthens the war. This is bad for both sides, and trying to frame it as good for Iran is nakedly bad faith narrative pushing.
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LewisKIII1 day ago
-10
No not really, just saying it's good for Iran not to meet two men who outright have been lying to Iran.
I am against this war though it's killing innocent humans, blowing up things that Trump and Israel said were threats that our own intelligence community said were not, and is wasting billions in US taxpayer money!
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No-Space93723 hr ago
+1
And Aragachi does not have the support of the IRGC to negotiate to begin with. Are they going to publicaly call him out again if he tries to make any concessions in peace talks? Every side is bullshiting, your a dunce if you beleive anything coming out of either side of the conflict.
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Koala_eiO1 day ago
-8
I can tell you had this answer ready regardless of what they were going to reply.
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mickeyt11 day ago
+11
Sure did. You’re just spouting pro-Iran talking points
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Det-Popcorn1 day ago
+16
Who couldve guessed that threatening to wipe out an entire civilization, might irk said civilization???
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MercantileReptile22 hr ago
+3
How long does the World intend to pretend like the Americans are getting anywhere? I'm not exactly fond of either Iran, Pakistan or China. But both or all would make more sense to talk to.
Without the US or their even more trigger happy ally.
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Ritaredditonce1 day ago
+7
Did the US envoy not bring their cards?
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Snigglybear1 day ago
+14
The U.S. isn’t looking for a ceasefire. They’re just manipulating the markets.
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FigSideG1 day ago
+7
The art of the deal is a beautiful thing. Good thing millions of Americans decided what this country needed was a racist business man who’s only skill is bankrupting companies and stiffing contractors. Working out great over here.
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ConcernHealthy8761 day ago
-26
Iranian leadership is clearly fractured. And now with the blockade will accelerate their economic decline. The straight was their economic lifeline and there really is no substitute.
The next few weeks will be really telling.
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PontiusPilatesss1 day ago
+7
Are they going to collapse before November 3d elections? If not, they know they have Republicans by the balls.
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fec22451 day ago
-1
Congress switches out in January.
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iismitch551 day ago
+3
Doesn’t matter. The next congress is elected in November. Any positive news after that won’t affect who takes those seats in January.
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Narrow-Praline-79081 day ago
+4
They only have to survive until the midterms. And then it's over.
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Pale-Factor-85741 day ago
+1
They have funding and weapons being delivered by Russia and China, and those aren't going into the country via Hormuz. The Iranian regime could care less about civilian losses from famine, war damage, etc. In a country of 93 million people, to them, the average human life is 100% expendable.
Unless/until they lose those connections, this war isn't going anywhere anytime soon from their end. Meanwhile, the US is burning through stockpiles faster than it can build them back up. It also burned most of its diplomatic trade agreements that were replenishing those stockpiles.
This is literally the dumbest war possible.
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ConcernHealthy8761 day ago
-1
Funding is not being delivered by Russia nor China - weapons maybe. But this is now a game of economic attrition. The people will suffer economically but the things the leadership doesn’t want is to lose any funds they have which is happening now. With the blockade and total standstill of their ships - they cannot last long.
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Pale-Factor-85741 day ago
+3
This is false. The Chinese have been funding the Iranians through non western aligned banks for years to get around US sanctions. They have a 25 year agreement for it. I don't get my information from youtube: [25 year agreement](https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/07/03/5-things-to-know-about-china-iran-security-cooperation/)
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ConcernHealthy8761 day ago
Additional funding is what I meant. Yeah maybe there is a static amount but nothing that’s making up for what’s happening now.
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Snigglybear1 day ago
+1
Yea, the U.S. can easily ride this out. Iran will run out of food and water without its internet and oil.
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fec22451 day ago
-2
China wants the strait open, they don't want continued war. Russia wants the strait closed but is pretty caught up in their own mess. The idea that Iran has plenty of funding is pure cope.
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BendicantMias1 day ago
+2
No, China literally VETOED resolutions at the UN to open the Strait. They can ride this out for a long time. The value of seeing their main rival expend and hurt itself in this war is way higher right now. They know the Strait is open to them in the long run i.e. after the US limps back home in defeat, or better gets stuck in a quagmire invasion.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/IRAN-CRISIS/CHINA-OIL/egpbeormkvq/
This war is China's ticket to taking Taiwan, they're not gonna help end it until the US has taken a bloody nose, either diplomatically or even better militarily.
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fec22451 day ago
China is a net importers, they're much more affected than the US. They have reserves but burning through their reserves sets back their plans to invade Taiwan. Any continued instability or protection rackets in the strait will be paid by Asia as they're the primary consumer of oil coming through the strait. They're not going to support some meaningless GCC resolution that Iran opposes but that doesn't mean they want the strait closed or don't care.
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BendicantMias1 day ago
-1
China's doing pretty alright mate - https://youtu.be/K3I95C60YaU?si=oJOl-yRBZSj6uNaB
No one said they aren't affected or don't care. You're just grossly underestimating the value of weakening the US. And they don't have to attack Taiwan during this war, they can do so at their leisure later as it'll take years for the US to replenish even just what it's already used up. And the more this war burns the US, the less likely it'll get involved in an even more ruinous war with them even after this ends.
Hell even the Taiwanese realize this, which is why recently they've been making more friendly overtures to China, due to having less faith in the US protecting them - https://youtu.be/auMcG8Owd-M?si=MF3g9z9Lu1Z78duy
So much for this 'setting back their plans to invade Taiwan' lol - at this rate they might not even need an invasion lmao.
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fec22451 day ago
People who get their news from YouTube deserve to be ignored
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BendicantMias1 day ago
LOL! First you ignored a Reuters article, now Youtube. It's obvious you're just a sore loser who can't admit you were wrong. Like Trump.
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fec22451 day ago
+2
I agreed China voted against the GCC resolution, I said you were reading too much into that.
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BendicantMias1 day ago
+4
That Reuters article wasn't about that, which PROVES you didn't read it. Thanks for making my case. I win. You're just being stupid.
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