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mikeysof 5 hr ago +188

I wonder what the threshold is for evidence

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TiredOfBeingTired28 5 hr ago +106

Be of a certain region.

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JohnBrownSurvivor 5 hr ago +61

Oh you know there isn't one.

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BizzarePlatypus 3 hr ago +1

> Proponents of the new law say the military court will adjust some normal rules of evidence and procedure so that it can handle a legal process of huge size and import. They argue that this will not significantly affect the fairness of the trial. That's the people that support the law.

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torn-ainbow 3 hr ago +1

Trials were already unfair.

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generic_Accountname1 2 hr ago +1

„Not needing an unanimous Verdict anymore totally will not affect fairness, trust me bro!“ these guys probably

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R1ght_b3hind_U 4 hr ago +13

the peter griffin skin color chart

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Tholaran97 5 hr ago +34

I'm sure they consider simply being Palestinian to be sufficient evidence. They already treat the Palestinian people like they're all terrorists anyway.

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TrumpsBussy_ 5 hr ago +19

Evidence? Don’t be silly

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ido-100 3 hr ago +1

Testimonies, videos, physical remains.

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Alexandre_Man 3 hr ago +1

- Being alive on October 7th

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Sidabaal 5 hr ago +5

Be a certain religion / race / colour

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SatisfactionLife2801 2 hr ago +1

Bit of a strange thing to wonder given a lot of the evidence was literally being recorded and broadcast in real time

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Riksunraksu 2 hr ago +1

Being Palestinian is enough without a doubt

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K0TEM 3 hr ago +1

Mostly Hamas' go-pros and things they bragged about and published all over social media

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Significant-Form1986 5 hr ago -19

The trails will be broadcast so you can watch and decide for yourself

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Signiference 6 hr ago +115

Gotta imagine there will be a whole bunch of people "linked" in the near future.

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sunkist-sucker 2 hr ago +1

yeah. don't like this one bit...

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nathism 6 hr ago +249

So since Netanyahu was funding Hamas with literal bags of cash can he be found guilty?

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Foolhearted 6 hr ago +61

And if the money came from Qatar with the blessing of the United States?

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IguanaIsBack 5 hr ago +24

The US actually weren’t too hot about it at the time, as were the PA, and most of Netanyahu’s govt. Even Qatar didn’t really want to do it, Netanyahu had to beg them to. https://www.timesofisrael.com/mossad-chief-top-general-visited-qatar-begged-it-to-pay-hamas-liberman-says/amp/

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Foolhearted 5 hr ago +1

Qatar had been doing it off books since 2007, directly supporting Hamas. Israel requested that what they were doing would actually be formalized into a system with oversight with money earmarked for Gazans. Obviously the oversight failed, spectacularly. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr

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IguanaIsBack 5 hr ago +8

It wasn’t off the books, it was pretty open. But at the time Qatar grew tired of Hamas so they stopped. The PA also stopped paying Hamas for government salaries. Hamas were on the brink of collapse, the PA were ready to swoop in and takeover Gaza. But Netanyahu stepped in and saved Hamas.

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nathism 5 hr ago +1

Saved Hamas, just in time to plan and execute Oct. 7th. I'd say that qualifies as a link and financial support.

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tm0g 6 hr ago +8

Yeah I’m so tired of AQPAC buying all of our politicians and getting us into pointless wars.

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Foolhearted 6 hr ago +3

That’s actually not a rebuttal. Qatar spends orders of magnitude more than Israel and AIPAC combined.

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Agitated_Celery_729 3 hr ago +2

And what are they getting for it? How many politicians who are anti-Qatar have you seen tarred, feathered, and removed from office by Qatari money? Can you point to any? Or are they paying money back into US politics in exchange for US protection of their oil and gas?

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09f3jns 6 hr ago -15

You're tired of Israel influencing US politics? Heh sorry pal that's been debunked

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evilleppy87 5 hr ago +5

Oh, hey there Mossad 👋

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09f3jns 5 hr ago -3

Mossad's psyops are so deep that they are now actively rooting against Israel

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evilleppy87 5 hr ago

Apparently I misread your comment that seemed to suggest Israel influencing US politics has been debunked.

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tm0g 4 hr ago +2

I think they were being sarcastic.

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evilleppy87 4 hr ago +3

A "/s" would be nice then. If it's sarcasm, it's very subtle sarcasm, which famously comes across crystal clear in writing */s*. It also seems like they could be saying that Qatar outspending Israel/AIPAC has been debunked as a reply to the post above theirs. Either way, it's kind of unclear the way it's written.

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tarlin 6 hr ago

Oh, how cute, the israeli talking point about Qatar...funny

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amodelsino 5 hr ago -4

Facts are 'talking points' if you don't like them I guess.

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tarlin 5 hr ago +9

what facts? Israel asked Qatar to provide money that they smuggled to Hamas, and Israel then whines about Hamas? There was another way for money to go to humanitarian causes in Gaza, but Israel didn't want that, so they requested for Qatar to provide the money. lol. And you blame Qatar and not the f****** horrid state of Israel? good job bro.

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Foolhearted 5 hr ago +4

Qatar had been doing it off books since 2007, directly supporting Hamas. Israel requested that what they were doing would actually be formalized into a system with oversight with money earmarked for Gazans. Obviously the oversight failed, spectacularly. https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bk8mgcefr

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Significant-Form1986 5 hr ago +4

As an Israeli, I definitely hope so.

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nathism 4 hr ago +2

Just as I hope my own current president finally faces the piper for his transgressions. In my case 50 years of quarter pounders will remove the opportunity for any kind of trial or tribunal.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 6 hr ago -10

Allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza pre Oct 7. Don’t say it like it’s some conspiracy when you rightly condemn the alternative.

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09f3jns 5 hr ago +15

"Allowing aid into Gaza" lol Israel defenders talk about Gaza like it's Israel's pet. Speaking objectively: Israel doesn't allow aid into Gaza. The world sends aid to Gaza and Israel occasionally intercepts it.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 5 hr ago -15

And look what unmitigated aid got Israel. You vindicate the blockade while condemning it

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09f3jns 5 hr ago +15

Humanitarian aid didn't cause October 7th. This is a psychotic take.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 5 hr ago -13

Isn’t the whole argument that oc made was that Netanyahu was guilty for causing it because he allowed the aid in?

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nathism 5 hr ago +10

Netanyahu allowed bags full of cash in to support Hamas, not aid. Don't put words in my mouth. You stopped responding on another thread because you were tired of not getting someone to agree with you.

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iccyhotokc 4 hr ago +2

He needed them for his scapegoat and excuse to bomb all the schools and hospitals

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nathism 6 hr ago +12

https://www.businessinsider.com/israel-security-forces-escorted-suitcases-cash-hamas-qatar-report-2023-12

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 6 hr ago +18

> As part of a peace agreement with Hamas, Qatar would bring millions into Gaza to distribute to Gazan families, the outlet reported. Because, again, restricting the aid to Gazan families is a BAD thing, right? The rest is conjecture and opinion without sources and quotes.

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nathism 6 hr ago -9

It was delivered to Hamas and Hamas lined their pockets with it and likely bought the weapons used in oct 7th attacks. If you're that gullible though, I've got a bridge that I'd like to sell you.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 6 hr ago +3

And your solution is what in your mind? Because like it or not Hamas is just as much a government as the PA and on just as good footing with Israel before it became common knowledge their goal. And it is the local government’s job to distribute aid.

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nathism 5 hr ago +8

not make gaza into a concentration camp and have legit negotiations to create a two state solution?

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torn-ainbow 3 hr ago +1

>and have legit negotiations to create a two state solution? Come on. Israel will never do this, let alone with Netanyahu leading. Rabin's blood is on Netanyahu's hands.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 5 hr ago -5

Been there tried that didn’t work. Next. (I’m also not dignifying that line about concentration camps with a rebuttal.)

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nathism 5 hr ago +8

I'd argue it was never actually tried since the negotiated items were never actually honored

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 5 hr ago +5

By which side? Certainly not the one that walked away from the table and declared an intifada.

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Beardmanta 6 hr ago +12

>In 2018, Netanyahu's administration came up with a plan, according to the New York Times. As part of a peace agreement with Hamas, Qatar would bring millions into Gaza to distribute to Gazan families, the outlet reported. So the money was for civilian purposes in exchange for "peace"... Yes Israel knew Hamas was skimming money off the top. That's how despotic governments like Hamas work. I'm not seeing the super controversial part. Unless you're in favor of the blockade on Gaza which I doubt.

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nathism 5 hr ago -1

I'm just pointing out the link of support that Israels own government had in enabling the attacks. The money aid is non aid in this instance with embargo of goods entering the area and the constant restrictions on the populace from interacting with the world and having their own capacity for free trade and movement. I'd equate this non-functional policy to Trump's current push to lower interest rates to solve his self-imposed economic issues. Instead of removing the stupid f****** tariffs or not going to f****** war and shutting down 20% of the global oil trade he pushes to lower interest rates so folks won't feel the pain for a bit longer. In this instance I'd equate that money to throwing it on the fire as it's going to have just as useful of an effect because the underlying conditions haven't changed and it will eventually make the problems hit that much harder in the future. It's just a delay tactic not a solution.

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Timbershoe 5 hr ago +4

Its disingenuous. Israel provided the funds to be distributed to the civilians. They didn’t not by any stretch of the imagination request Hamas use the funding to launch a huge terrorist attack and ignite a war across the Middle East. There is a lot to blame Israel for. The Oct 7th terrorist attack on Israel isn’t one of them. That was Iran.

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nathism 4 hr ago

let me introduce you to a foreign concept. Hey do you want a [blanket](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1837_Great_Plains_smallpox_epidemic)? A more relevant historical example would be a [horse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trojan_Horse)

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Timbershoe 4 hr ago +3

Right. So you’re saying the cash provided in aid from Israel to Palestine somehow magically forced Hamas into committing a huge terrorist attack. Mate, it was just financial aid. Hamas wasn’t in league with Israel, Israel didn’t convince them to do shit. Iran orchestrated the events with Hamas. Iran provided training, weapons and additional funding. Now you could have a wild conspiracy theory that Israel is also influencing Iran to attack Israel but at that point you’re into crazy town. The simple fact is Israel was attacked regularly for 60 years prior to October the 7th and it’ll be attacked again. When it is, Israel will respond with massive violence. It’s a cycle of violence that repeats itself over and over.

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nathism 4 hr ago +1

I know that if I or any other citizen were to supply a single dollar to hamas I could go away to federal prison for providing aid to a terrorist organization. But the Netanyahu government doing it with suitcases full of cash raises no alarm bells. Also the current Zionest government was regularly committing terrorism starting 90 years ago. So when it's against them it's something that is not ok to do but when it is used for the revolution it's A OK to bomb hotels. got it.

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Timbershoe 4 hr ago

Firstly, I’m absolutely not condoning Israeli war crimes. Secondly, humanitarian assistance is a good thing. I’m sure Israel regrets providing the funding, however Palestinians absolutely need aid now more than ever And yes, some of that aid will end up supporting more terrorism. That doesn’t mean governments should just let Palestinians die. Welcome to the Middle East problems, where pragmatic solutions end up causing more conflict. The situation is fucked.

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Acceptable-Bus-2017 6 hr ago -3

Didn't several foreign intelligence agencies give him a heads up before Oct 7th? It smelled like a false flag immediately.

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Daft_Assassin 6 hr ago +1

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terry496 4 hr ago +1

Yes. 𝘛𝘏𝘐𝘚.

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Other-Comfortable-64 6 hr ago -4

And the IDF killed a bunch of people that day.

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WorkingMastodon6147 5 hr ago +6

This Hamas talking point again. What's next? Hamas didn't kill any civilians and r*pe women?

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Other-Comfortable-64 4 hr ago +1

>This Hamas talking point again. Well this happened, why so kneejerking? [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430)

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RobCoxxy 3 hr ago +1

And then there was the Hannibal Directive

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Find_another_whey 6 hr ago -4

If found multiple times to be ignoring the warnings that there was going to be an attack, surely that adds to the issue

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RoswellRedux 6 hr ago -7

w*****, w*****, chicken dinner!

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hollywood_jazz 6 hr ago +41

Seems like they were already giving out death penalties without trial for the last couple of years…

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Yop_BombNA 5 hr ago +20

Where’s the line for “linked” drawn? Un refutable proof they were actively engaging in? Proof they supported or funded? Part of the same group as a perpetrator (went to the same mosque for example)? The perpetrators were Muslim and so are you? The perpetrators weren’t Jewish and neither are you?

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ShadyBearEvadesTaxes 5 hr ago +1

This law looks like a method to suppress politic opponents as well.

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wildemam 6 hr ago +43

Horray for the 'Oasis of progress of the middle east'

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PrettyYoungTiger 6 hr ago +12

Funded by a wannabe nobel peace prize candidate

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AdTiny2166 5 hr ago +2

was he ever a candidate though?

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Cizenst 5 hr ago +13

Does that include the IDF soldiers who killed Israeli citizens?

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demilp 2 hr ago +1

Are you mentally ill?

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iccyhotokc 4 hr ago +8

Since it came out that Netanyahu was behind their financing, he would be a good start.

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Chedery2 4 hr ago -6

As mentioned in other parts of this threat, bibi "funding hamas"was bringing aid to gazans from qatar, something that if he wouldve blocked we both know you wouldve condemned, or is that wrong?

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Blubbolo 5 hr ago +6

Can they show the "bibi files" in which it shows Netanyahu financed hamas?

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Chedery2 4 hr ago -6

As mentioned in other parts of this threat, bibi "funding hamas"was bringing aid to gazans from qatar, something that if he wouldve blocked we both know you wouldve condemned, or is that wrong?

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Blubbolo 3 hr ago +1

Of course! Sure, he's such a good guy...that's why it's illegal to show that journalistic investigation in Isreal.

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GetsBetterAfterAFew 6 hr ago +7

Netanyahu literally slept in Jares Kushners childhood bed ehen he visited the USA.

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egoVirus 4 hr ago +3

Did they not kill enough people already?

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hertuition 6 hr ago +9

How long before multiple ethnogroups are found guilty of involvement with oct.7. Lol, its funny cause they're already being genocided.

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_Druss_ 6 hr ago +2

I wonder how many hundreds of thousands they will kill in their camps before intervention? Will the world continue tostand by and allow the genocide?

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failingstars 3 hr ago +2

This is their way of legalizing executions of people they want dead. lol Israel has been known to fabricate and lie about evidence.

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ibddevine 6 hr ago

Wow, that's going Old School ❌

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honkymotherfucker1 3 hr ago +1

I’m sure this will be used in a fair and just manner

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ArgonianFly 6 hr ago -16

I don't like a lot Israel has done, but good. Those scumbags deserve the death penalty.

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RavensQueen502 5 hr ago +26

Read it. Anyone 'linked' to Hamas. Actual Hamas fighters already get killed, there's no need for trial. This is just expanding the scope to include more people, including those who just don't want their country to commit genocide in Gaza.

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barak8006 3 hr ago -2

Not linked with hamas. Linked with the oct massacre. Try glasses.

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Chedery2 4 hr ago -6

This isnt true. Thoasands of hamas fighters from october 7th are jailed in Israel. Ones that surrendered inside Israel on october 7th . Until now, Israel didnt have the death penalty, so they just sat there. Now they can be sentenced to death.

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Mubar- 5 hr ago +4

You fool really thinks Israel is going to use this fairly

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Stubbs94 5 hr ago +4

No, it's absolutely fucked for an occupation to execute their captives. Regardless of the fact if they were involved in resisting or not.

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ShadyBearEvadesTaxes 5 hr ago +1

I think this law can be easily misused to get rid of innocent but unwanted people.

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Chedery2 4 hr ago -5

Innocent people who happened to be in Israel on october 7, on accident?

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statix85 5 hr ago

So where are we with our western values putting sanctions on all these countries that have no regard for human life.

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Seagoon_Memoirs 4 hr ago +1

Will they be hanged from cranes and lamp posts like Hamas does?

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JurgusRudkus 3 hr ago +1

Now do Israeli soldiers who sodomize Palestinian prisoners with iron bars.

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java-with-pointers 3 hr ago +1

Not linked, participated

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4RCH43ON 5 hr ago -2

If only the U.S. did the same for the Jan 6 terrorists. On a more serious note, sounds kinda like a “final solution” situation, irony being dead as a doornail.

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Popular_Kangaroo5446 5 hr ago

If it was Ukraine you’d call it Nuremberg 2

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Significant-Form1986 4 hr ago +2

The 6Jan terrorist burn families together in their houses ? Kidnapped 80 and 3 years old ?

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barak8006 4 hr ago -2

Comparing it to "final solution" is the most antisemite and ignorant thing to say. You basically compare terrorists to jews. Have some shame

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Boiling_warm 4 hr ago

If this is done properly, and has a high standard of evidence, then it's okay I'm not going to get upset when warcriminals get the death penalty. But yea obviously this accountability will only go one way.

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BoatFarts 5 hr ago -3

On paper this is good because terrorism is bad. Problem is Israel will use that as an excuse to just clear out the Muslim population by fabricating or just lowering the necessary standards for evidence

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Parepinzero 4 hr ago +10

I don't agree that it's good even on paper. I don't support the death penalty.

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BoatFarts 4 hr ago -6

For terrorists, I’d make that exception. Especially when they’ve hurt innocents. I just don’t like that they will definitely fabricate evidence to justify their crimes.

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ObbytheObserver 2 hr ago +1

How about Presidents that bomb schools filled with little girls?

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lucidrainbows 4 hr ago +1

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K0TEM 3 hr ago -1

People out here are outraged, but some of them love in countries that already have the death penalty and use it for criminal felonies, not only terrorism

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JustSmallCorrections 3 hr ago +1

Did you ever stop to consider that maybe the people outraged about this are also outraged that the death penalty is legal in their own countries?

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Due_Support8790 4 hr ago -6

Its funny how people comment on this , if people had the same reaction to ss officers instead of hamas operatives the reaction would be very different

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Suspicious_Stage_652 6 hr ago -60

I hope it's just Hamas and not the innocent people.

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hyf5 6 hr ago +81

A lot of Israeli will tell you there are no innocent people in Palestine.

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winpickles4life 6 hr ago +33

Sounds like something a Nazi would say. Edit: to be clear, not calling you a Nazi, just pointing out that is the same mentality.

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hyf5 6 hr ago +5

Give Louis Theroux's The Ultra Zionists a watch you'll be very surprised by the similarities. However, I believe these are just a minority. A lot of Israelis don't subscribe to a Nazi-like ideology, they're more comfortable with Apartheid ideology, as shown in Kohn Oliver's last week tonight episode about the west bank [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK3\_n6pdDY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqK3_n6pdDY)

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NeonArlecchino 5 hr ago +2

According to a poll done by Hebrew University in Jerusalem, over 60% of Israelis believe that there are "no innocents in Gaza". They're not a minority. https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of-jewish-israelis-share-genocidal-belief-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza/

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trydola 6 hr ago +1

very appropriate since Israelis are the modern nazis

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BabylonianWeeb 4 hr ago +3

A tel aviv university study found 85% of Israeli Jews believe that there's no innocents in Gaza.

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No_Huckleberry2711 4 hr ago +1

A lot of pro-palestinians will say there are no innocent people in Israel

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xynith116 6 hr ago +40

You think they care to tell the difference?

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PorkshireTerrier 6 hr ago +4

the point, as always, is to break the floodgate

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wildemam 6 hr ago +7

Ya Hitler hoped it is the 'bad ones who betrayed Germany' too.

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mad-data 6 hr ago -32

your equivalence of Palestinians to Nazis is spot on

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LittleKitty235 6 hr ago +9

How does that even make sense to you?

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mad-data 6 hr ago +3

It is explicitly worded about perpetrators of attack, i.e. murderers, rapists and kidnappers.

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bunnytrox 6 hr ago +4

Lol this is Israel we're talking about. They will only be killing innocent people

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One_Study52 6 hr ago +1

Hope it’s just Netanyahu.

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XsancoX 6 hr ago -12

That's what you get for ending that poor Labrador.

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Israel passes law to allow death penalty and public trials for those linked to October 7

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