I get the feeling journalists reporting on the middle east are struggling with the words cease and fire.
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Spare-Ant71196 days ago
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They struggle with basic truth and kowtowing to authoritarians in effort to not lose their jobs.
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Suspicious_Place12706 days ago
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their lives*
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VastInvestment27356 days ago
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Israel kills the ones that do their jobs properly.
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Academic_Net62986 days ago
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Given that [60% of “journalists” killed in Gaza were actually terrorists](https://www.terrorism-info.org.il/app/uploads/2025/12/172_25_E.pdf) idk about that.
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Peon016 days ago
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checks source, ah yes, Israels very own Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center owned by a former IDF soldier,which, at least in the first 10 pages, is all just " well we investigated them and found that they're part of hamas". Ok ! Not to mention how happy this article loves to provide telegram screenshots, but somehow "incontrovertible proof" doesn't get any evidence attached to it? And only shows anti Israel posters. And don't even get me started on one of the quoted "sources"( referenced as 2) in which in the article literally says "APPARENTLY ENJOYED" . So we are quoting "apparently"s as fact now? Maybe someone who's read more into this "source" can tell me if it gets better but its complete slop so far
EDIT: and I didn't even mention "60% of journalists killed were actually terrorists" OK let's pretend thats the truth, they STILL KILLED 40% OF THE NON TERRORIST JOURNALISTS
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Academic_Net62986 days ago
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Did you even look at the evidence they provided? Most of them were claimed by terrorist organizations as their members in official obituary notices
Muhammed Dawish - Camera man at a Palestinian new agency filmed taking part in October 7th with a Hamas headband on
Muhammad abu Sakhi - listed as a journalist and claimed by Palestinian Islamic Jihad as commander in an obituary notice
Hthifah al-Najar - listed as a journalist and claimed as a member of Hamas in an obituary notice
Israel says they’re terrorists, Palestine says they’re terrorists, the only one disputing that fact is you
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Tegewaldt6 days ago
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Not really, more like of the number of alleged journalists killed, 40% were not terrorists.
This does not mean out of 1000 real journalists, 400 were killed.
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Peon016 days ago
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whilst a clarification, it doesnt detract from the point
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Academic_Net62986 days ago
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It does when the “journalists” being killed are more likely than not to be confirmed members of terrorist organizations to say nothing of whether or not they were combatants not affiliated with a group.
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purple_spikey_dragon6 days ago
60% were confirmed/self admitted terrorist. If 60% of a classroom was filled with lice i would very much question the rest of the students lice state...
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Madbrad2006 days ago
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Interesting way to frame 40% of journalists being killed are innocent.
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Academic_Net62986 days ago
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Interesting way to frame Palestinian “journalists” are more likely than not members of terrorist organizations. To say nothing of whether they were combatants unaffiliated with a terrorist group when they were killed.
If 2/3rds of CNN reporters killed were actually jihadists I’d wonder about the other 1/3rd too
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Madbrad2006 days ago
+1
In America there's generally an understanding of innocent until proven guilty before you start labeling 40% of a journalist organisation as terrorists.
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Academic_Net62985 days ago
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I’m not labeling 40% of them as terrorists, I’m acknowledging the reality that at least 60% of Palestinian “journalists” killed in the war were avowed members of terrorist organizations as confirmed by official obituary notices from the terrorist organizations themselves
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DDoubleDDog6 days ago
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False
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VastInvestment27356 days ago
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its not though is it
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DDoubleDDog6 days ago
+2
False
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teacher_596 days ago
+3
Iranian-backed terrorists certainly don’t know the meaning of that word.
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yuje6 days ago
I suspect there won’t be much more journalists in the Middle East anymore soon, at the rate they’re being killed.
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weissguy36 days ago
+13
Depends on what you consider a journalist.
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thrillyviews6 days ago
-10
Pretty hard to be nuanced in a headline... Also that's what all the states are calling it despite all the egregious war crimes.
As much as ad revenue dictates EDITORIAL decisions journos are THERE and slamming their heads into the wall after arguing with their desk and then drinking themselves to an early grave at the senselessness of it all.
Journalists are not the enemy, just the horse the messenger rides. Would you rather no message at all?
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purple_spikey_dragon6 days ago
+5
>Journalists are not the enemy, just the horse the messenger rides. Would you rather no message at all?
Ever heard the phrase "if you got nothing good to say, better say nothing"? Because yes, if the choice is between "no information" and "false information" I'd rather not be lied to.
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DiscipleOfYeshua6 days ago
+23
Lots of context available (but not included)
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blackestmate6 days ago
+42
c̶e̶a̶s̶e̶fire
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Shot-Toe-28846 days ago
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Broken by Hezbollah on March 2nd, 2026.
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StormWhich56296 days ago
+21
> since agreeing to a ceasefire with Hezbollah last month
> last month
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Shot-Toe-28846 days ago
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No they did not. They agreed to a ceasefire with Lebanon. Hezbollah is a non-state militia, not Lebanon. Hezbollah in fact is a violent occupier of sovereign Lebanese territory.
Don’t worry. Talks with Lebanon have continued to be productive. Israel and Lebanon have agreed on a lot, including their desire to remove Hezbollah from its illegal occupation over huge swaths of Lebanon after this latest provocation.
Free Lebanon.
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StormWhich56296 days ago
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Well thank goodness these strikes weren't in Lebanon am I right?
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purple_spikey_dragon6 days ago
+1
Lebanon had one job in the past 10 years: keep Hezbollah out of power and make sure they don't cross the Litani river to prevent them from continuing to send rockets at Israels northern villages. Did they do even half of that? No. They failed miserably, if they even tried at all. Considering the state of the Druze minority population, they more than only failed their agreement with Israel, but with their own citizens.
If Lebanon didn't want to have a war started on their ground, why would they let Hezbollah not only operate from their country (remember the explosion in Beirut a few years back? Guess who), but let them infiltrate their government and attack minority groups, and basically start a war with a neighbouring country?
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StormWhich56296 days ago
+1
Why no response? Are you saying that Hezbollah was linked to that fertilizer explosion several years ago?
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StormWhich56296 days ago
+1
> remember the explosion in Beirut a few years back? Guess who
A fuckload of fertilizer blew up because of improper storage so what are you trying to say here?
https://www.britannica.com/event/2020-Beirut-explosion
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chabawonka6 days ago
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....so you're justifying Israel breaking the ceasefire agreement in May because of something that happened in March before the ceasefire was even negotiated?
Also should mention this all happened after Israel murdered the Iranian leadership and launched a war during peace negotiations.
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Shot-Toe-28846 days ago
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Israel didn’t sign a peace agreement with Hezbollah. They signed a deal with Lebanon. Ya know… the actual sovereign state. Not their zealous far-right occupier.
Hezbollah is not lebanon. Hate to break it to ya. They’re the only ones who want this stupid f****** forever war.
Lebanon and Israel remain in contact and continue to negotiate in the United States as agreed, both citing important progress and clearly signalling that Lebanese territory will be respected by Israel.
Even if Israel wanted to annex Lebanon, they have to go through Americans for permission that are deeply sympathetic to Lebanon’s predicament and abhor the Hezbollah occupation and its targeted violence and persecution against Lebanese Christians.
Nobody who wants a free Lebanon supports HezB. Nobody. If you support Hezbollah, you are firmly against Lebanese sovereignty and you condone ethnic cleansing and religious apartheid
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yonatanh206 days ago
+29
Sorry to bust your bubbles but for the past month Israel and Hezbollah were still fighting, for the past month Israeli towns are still being shelled.
Israel was instructed by Trump stop bombing Beirut so he could negotiate with Iran. It appears Israel is no longer interested in that and Hezbollah still has its leadership in Beirut so Beirut gets bombed.
You are all welcome to scooch down and smell my farts.
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Broad-Lobster74706 days ago
+4
Sees fire
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NoMention6966 days ago
+4
So 5 mins after announcing the ceasefire ?
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HarEr896 days ago
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Because Lebanon government failed again to disarm Hebollah. They are not even trying. The commander of Hezbollah's Radwan Forces was killed in Beirut tonight.
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Aramis4446 days ago
+21
I don’t know that Lebanon is capable of just “disarming” them? I feel like Hezbollah won’t just disarm willingly.
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PedanticPerson6 days ago
+6
While there’s certainly truth to that, the corollary is that they have no right to complain when Israel is forced to come and clean up the terrorist infrastructure that they couldn’t.
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GEF110F14F156 days ago
+14
dont bother commenting the truth here, listnook wont listen
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DickelPick696 days ago
+25
Exactly! Only Israel is allowed to bomb civilians
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[deleted]6 days ago
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Pesto_in_my_pants6 days ago
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Israel wasnt bombing Lebanon before Oct 7th (except for all the times they bombed Lebanon)
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noir_lord6 days ago
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Someone really needs to send a physical copy of the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) with "Ceasefire" underlined to the US Government, Israeli Government and IRGC, hell do it in Sharpie, I hear that's popular.
Oh and Russia, the current back to back champion for "Ceasefire" meaning "only we get to fire".
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Latrodectus7026 days ago
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Before the strike Hezbollah injured IDF soldiers in a drone strike.
https://x.com/n12news/status/2052044359835554055?s=46
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lewisfairchild6 days ago
+5
Israel shall preserve its right to take all necessary measures in self-defense, at any time, against planned, imminent, or ongoing attacks. This shall not be impeded by the cessation of hostilities. Besides this, it will not carry out any offensive military operations against Lebanese targets, including civilian, military, and other state targets, in the territory of Lebanon by land, air, and sea.
https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/04/ten-day-cessation-of-hostilities-to-enable-peace-negotiations-between-israel-and-lebanon
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Rumble2Man6 days ago
+62
Don't forget to send Hezbollah a copy too!
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noir_lord6 days ago
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They are terrorists, I generally hold governments to a higher standard and especially democratic ones, do you not?.
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Academic_Net62986 days ago
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If a ceasefire between a government and a terrorist group is violated by the terrorist group why should the government be held to the unadhered to ceasefire?
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Incorrect-Opinion6 days ago
+19
So you should hold Lebanon to a higher standard of failing to remove Hezbollah, as agreed upon over 20 years ago.
They’ve failed, and now Israel needs to do it for them.
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Propoyall6 days ago
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Then guess you’ll be happy to hear that hezbollah broke the ceasefire!
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noir_lord6 days ago
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Why would that make me happy?
I don’t have a side, sometimes it’s silly to pick because neither side is worth picking.
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Propoyall6 days ago
+15
No need to send Israel ceasefire instruction. Seems like they understand they can hit back when hit
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TheSuperGerbil6 days ago
+9
So you think that they should just take the hit and do nothing?
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noir_lord6 days ago
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I think I’m 45 and they’ve been kicking the shit out of each other all my life and both sides have practised preemptive retaliation enough times that at this point who f****** knows.
So I choose to not pick a side and instead just feel sorry for the innocents caught up in it.
England and France spent a millennium beating the shit out of each other (including over religion or at least as a strong contributing factor), now we mostly argue about fish, at some point you have to figure it out.
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Traditional-Fox-15976 days ago
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Wait until you hear about the United States and Israel--arguably some of the greatest terrorist organizations in the world!
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Shot-Toe-28846 days ago
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Hezbollah started this war on March 2nd, 2026, intentionally breaking the existing ceasefire that they literally signed.
Listnookors are just pissed that Israel is smart enough to recognize when a liar is lying. They’d prefer Israel be gullible and fall for yet another malicious fake peace deal that Hezbollah will inevitably break for the umpteenth time.
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chedder6 days ago
There have been hundreds of documented ceasefire violations from Israel since then and they still had not withdrawn out of Lebanon. I don't understand how they can consider shelling instead of bombing to not be a ceasefire violation.
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MVP_Legend_876 days ago
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It's quite clear you don't understand how a ceasefire works. The agreement isn't just that Israel doesn't attack Hezbollah, but that Hezbollah stays north of the Litani, and they disarm.
Hezbollah refused to do both of these things. The expectation for a ceasefire is that Israel won't attack, so long as Hezbollah fulfills their obligations. Hezbollah made it clear, both in their statements, and in their actions, that they had no intention to disarm, and that they weren't staying north of the Litani.
The ceasefire relies on both sides following through on what they agreed to. If Hezbollah won't disarm and go north of the Litani, then Israel shouldn't be expected to show restraint against Hezbollah. The fighting stops on the condition that Hezbollah disarms, and they didn't.
And there are also hundreds of documented ceasefire violations from Hezbollah, with 2 violations per day for every day they refused to disarm, and refused to go north of the Litani.
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chedder6 days ago
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The issue is that people who LIVED south of the Litani were heading back to their own homes after being displaced for weeks only to be fired upon. Israel needs to leave Lebanon and stop trying to enforce arbitrary boundaries with no formal agreements in violation of international law.
There is no amount of paragraphs that you can type which will ever justify displacing people from their homes and then occupying their lands. Not only that but also defiling religious monuments and filming cheeky videos of themselves cooking meals in other peoples homes.
Anyone who makes the defense argument here is being willfully deceitful or is just ignorant.
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MVP_Legend_876 days ago
+21
"The issue is that people who LIVED south of the Litani were heading back to their own homes after being displaced for weeks only to be fired upon."
Hezbollah was fired upon. They're the ones putting civilians in danger. You should place the blame and responsibility on the group putting civilians in danger, which is Hezbollah.
"Israel needs to leave Lebanon and stop trying to enforce arbitrary boundaries with no formal agreements in violation of international law."
Israel can't leave Lebanon, because Hezbollah keeps attacking them. The formal agreement that had been in place was UN Resolution 1701. You'll never guess what they said Hezbollah needs to do though! Withdraw from the Litani and disarm. Nobody is able to enforce it though. Lebanon isn't strong enough, and nobody else in the world will get involved to help Lebanon. So it really is up to Israel to stop them.
It's funny how you talk about violations of International Law and completely ignore the fact that Hezbollah is doing this by refusing to disarm, and refusing to go north of the Litani. I get that you want to blame Israel for everything, but Hezbollah is the one violating international law here.
There's certainly someone in this discussion being willfully deceitful, but it ain't me.
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Incorrect-Opinion6 days ago
+13
Lebanon failed to remove Hezbollah from their country as agreed upon over 20 years ago. This is Israel doing something about it.
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Shadow_hive6 days ago
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Killing civilians as collateral is ok now if it serves to get rid of terrorists?
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Incorrect-Opinion6 days ago
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Nobody is cheering on civilian deaths, but that is sadly the reality of war. Put the blame on Hezbollah for burying their rockets and infrastructure amongst and under civilian areas.
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MannerConfident16906 days ago
+4
CEASEFIRE^TM Now with added explosions!
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DDoubleDDog6 days ago
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Hezbollah broke the ceasefire several times.
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knightress_oxhide6 days ago
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ceaseish
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Long-Draft-71286 days ago
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We see you isrial
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nunii6 days ago
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And what….. all the terrorist regimes are on the way out…… Israel is not messing around anymore and with trump and USA support it won’t be long ….. Hezbollah days are numbered
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Long-Draft-71286 days ago
+1
Isrial and trump are the terrorists.
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nunii6 days ago
+5
Ok Mohammad
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Long-Draft-71286 days ago
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Did muslims just bomb beruit? No they were buisy praying 6 times a day.
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nunii6 days ago
+5
Praying to a pedophile who married a five-year-old
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