Does anybody here believe that Israel will truly give back Lebanese land with Hezbollah gone? Cause it looks like they are going to either swallow entire Lebanon or take a huge bite out of it.
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Squire_II3 days ago
+173
The founding belief of the Likud party (among others) is that a Greater Israel is their God given right and must be accomplished by any means necessary so no, nobody who isn't ignorant of Israel's behavior believes they'll ever give back what they've stolen (let alone stop their aggression and expansion).
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UThrowaway03013 days ago
+44
Yeah, zero percent chance people are getting their land back. All of the Israeli right wing and some of the non-right-wing as well, unapologetically want to steal land from their neighbours. Like it's been going on for decades in Palestine, there's no reason to think people like Ben Gvir and co won't be looking at the same thing in Lebanon and Syria.
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Aggressive-Kitchen183 days ago
-5
They flattened everything, what even is there to give back lol.
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Icy-Teaching-56022 days ago
+8
Nazis called it Lebensraum
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DKlark3 days ago
-12
Can I ask where you got the idea that that is the founding belief? I hate the Likud too, I'm just wondering where you read that, because the concept of greater Israel is not really something you hear often outside of people like Smotrich and Ben Gvir and their like.
I also remember Netanyahu mentioning it once when addressing a certain base, but other than that, it's not something you here in everyday life here.
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Squire_II3 days ago
+4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea#Similar_sayings_by_the_Israeli_right
The specific statement is:
The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable… therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; **between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.** -Likud Party, 1977
And yes, you are reading that right. "From the river to the sea" originated with the Israeli right years before Hamas existed or any opposition groups used it as a statement against Israel.
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PuzzleheadedEmu45963 days ago
-11
Not even that, a reporter looking for a gotcha held up a piece of jewelry with Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza as one entity and asked Benjamin Netanyahu if he identified with it. He said yes because of course he did.
That was subsequently blown out of proportion.
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Cannon_Fodder8883 days ago
-17
It's also a common widespread belief the once a land becomes Muslim/Islamic then it is forever Islamic and has to be taken back at all costs. Hence Israel was previously Islamic from 637 A.D until 1917 A.D
That would also include Spain!!!!. Now apply the same reasoning you are to Israel as to what the Muslims have been trying to do since 1948.
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_Iro_3 days ago
+53
From the 60s to the 80s Israel once occupied the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt, a landmass larger than the entirety of Lebanon. It was eventually returned as part of the Camp David Accords, but nothing like that would happen under Netanyahu.
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TangledPangolin3 days ago
+57
Israel gave it back in return for Egyptian concessions under a lot of pressure from the US government.
Do you think the current US government will pressure Israel to return Lebanon?
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therealorangechump2 days ago
+9
it is not just Netanyahu.
you have a reason to assume it is Netanyahu because he is explicitly against the concept of [stolen] land for peace.
however, the situation is drastically different. back then a peace deal with Egypt was of great importance to Israel. it totally destroyed the unified Arab position towards Israel - not that the Arabs were about to achieve anything, but still, breaking the three NOs (no peace, no recognition, no negotiations) was something very important to Israel.
peace with Lebanon is of no value to Israel, if anything, it is a negative.
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yvesp903 days ago
+24
If the Lebanese don't take it back by war, no. This happened in Egypt and they remained under occupation until Israel "peacefully gave it back", it didn't. Egyptians had to win it back in 6th of October and then the USA ordered Egypt to not advance or they'll bomb them. The "peace" deal was Israel "giving back" the land Egyptians claimed back with the demand that this land has nearly no army presence, aka easy to be retaken anytime. Since the USA had them under the gun, Egyptians signed.
So if the "terrorists" don't take it back...look at the West bank, which doesn't have "terrorists"
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WentThisWayInsteadOf3 days ago
+3
Currently the only ones fighting IDF in Lebanon is Hezbollah, and yes they are doing quite will for what they have of options - but they will not be able to convince Israel to leave, like they did in the early 80s. Israel has just begun. Next comes Syria.
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yvesp903 days ago
+5
I guess Syria needs "terrorists" now. Which will happen sooner or later since it'll probably be a buffer between Israel and Turkey
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Old_Wallaby_74613 days ago
+7
>This happened in Egypt and they remained under occupation until Israel "peacefully gave it back", it didn't. Egyptians had to win it back in 6th of October and then the USA ordered Egypt to not advance or they'll bomb them.
The war ended with Israeli troops on the Egyptian side of the canal. In 1974 there were no Egyptian troops in Sinai at all. Egypt only got it back 5 years later, after signing a normalization protocol with Israel that was so unpopular that it got Anwar Sadat killed.
>Since the USA had them under the gun, Egyptians signed.
Egypt signed because it had become apparent that Israel was not going to lose on the battlefield.
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Mamamama290103 days ago
-11
Israel gave it back in exchange for recognition and normalization of relations. Gaza was also offered, but Egypt didn’t want it.
The West Bank was offered back to Jordan…they didn’t want it back and normalized relations anyway.
The Golan Heights was offered back to Syria in exchange for normalization and recognition (same as Egypt and Jordan), but they preferred to keep tensions high.
So reality is not whatever drivel you just wrote down. Israel doesn’t need anymore hostile neighbors, it’s a small country.
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yvesp903 days ago
+24
I love it when people act like they know more than what they claim.
Your points are kinda right but way too simple. Egypt didn’t want to take over Gaza in the 1979 peace deal with Israel because it wanted the Sinai Peninsula (its own land, Gaza is Palestine and not Egypt) back and didn’t want to be the direct neighbor of Israel, hence the wall they have there, plus it supported Palestinian independence. Before 1967, Egypt ran Gaza but didn’t make it part of their country or give its people citizenship. The Egyptian Khedive was thus known as Hami Bayt al-Maqdis (Protector of Jerusalem/The Holy House)
Jordan’s position on the West Bank was more complicated: it took over the area in 1950 but lost it in 1967. Jordan turned down the Allon Plan after the war because they didn’t promise to get all the land back, including East Jerusalem. It only officially gave up its claims in 1988 and recognized the PLO as the Palestinians’ representative.
And all of these lands were annexed by Israel, "the victim". Before you say "they attacked Israel first", no they didn't. Israel started, unprompted, in 1956 in the Suez war, that if we ignore their documented genocides since 1947 so they can secure "tHeIR RiGHt tO eXiST" or whatever bs people who defend Ashkenazi imperialism would say
I specifically point out Ashkenazi because before 1956 Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews lived peacefully in Egypt and they were part of the culture, acting and arts. After Israel unpromptly attacking Egypt, they were banished as Israel sympathizers. Which is a sad act because most Arab nations did the same which just fed Western idiots with whatever bs Israel sold them "that Israel is the only safe place for Jews"
EDIT: The whole point was that the Egyptians won their land back and that Israel didn't "give it back" by the way. Which is not gonna happen in Lebanon without a catch and definitely not fighting back, otherwise known as "terrorism"
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Mamamama290103 days ago
+13
Egypt still shares a huge land border with Israel. And anytime Israel advanced into Egypt in previous wars, it’s wasn’t through Gaza, but through the open desert that they still share. I’m also not sure how Egypt “won it back”, unless you refer to them winning by coming around and deciding that getting the Sinai back in exchange for being normal neighbors was worthwhile.
Israel has not annexed Gaza or the West Bank. These territories are not “de jure” territories of Israel. The reason for this is it leaves Palestinians in these territories stateless. Otherwise, Israel would have to offer citizenship. East Jerusalem and the Golan Heights has been formally annexed (but not recognized by most countries), but the local population there is near insignificant (Golan case) and the locals have been offered citizenship (both cases).
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yvesp903 days ago
+5
Egypt won parts of Sinai back in 6th of October until a stalemate happened and it was starting to be a proxy war between the USSR and the USA. That's what sparked the "peace talks", Israel didn't just want to give the land back. Which is the whole f****** point of my original comment. If you don't fight back they will just annex you. I don't know if you're from there or not, but if not, I think you'd need to look into how Israel wants to remain a "small country"
The UN’s ICJ said that Israel’s ongoing presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territory is against the law. The court stated that Israel’s actions, like expanding settlements (most important one because that's how they mostly do it imperceptibly) break international law and are like a defacto annexation. So I'm not sure what you're talking about saying it "didn't annex". They're building settlements and displacing people and hey now they can legally kill them too if they see fit. The moral country that now has execution by race. Wholesome
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Mamamama290103 days ago
+7
To be clear, by 6th of October, you’re referring to, what’s typically known as the Yom Kippur War in the West?
It’s true that at the start of the war, Egypt did initially retake some parts of the Sinai along the canal, but failed to advance deeper. Israel counter-attacked and retook the entire Sinai, and when the ceasefire was agreed, had already crossed back over the canal and made a deep penetration into Egypt. This was in 1973, and the final peace settlement that returned the Sinai was signed in 1979. Egypt did not militarily take back the Sinai, and although they were successful for a few weeks in taking some of it back, they lost their gains and then some. There was no lasting stalemate there, and by the end of it, the Egyptian army was being systemically destroyed. The US intervened in behalf of Egypt due to pressure from the USSR who had threatened to get directly involved after seeing their allies, Egypt and Syria, get savaged in Israeli counterattacks.
Tbh, Israel doesn’t need a beef with Egypt, or vice versa. It helps neither nation…and once that became a mutual understanding, all of the other problems, including territorial exchange, solved themselves.
Same with Jordan, and pretty much the same with the non-Hezbollah part of the Lebanese government.
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KaiBahamut3 days ago
+4
Then why does Israel insist on pissing off apl its neighbors by invading and creating refugee crises for them?
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Mamamama290103 days ago
+2
I don’t recall Israel Messi g with either Jordan or Egypt ever since they became all cool with each other. What refugee crises has Israel created in any recent terms?
The refugees in Gaza and the West Bank remain primarily Israel’s own problem.
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yvesp903 days ago
+15
I think you're clearly not in the region. Israel and Egypt don't have tense, free relationships, and Egypt, like Israel, is always in a state of preparation. Also, Egypt is not a defenceless country, especially lately since the West isn't the sole monopoly over weapons, which is why Egypt deployed Chinese HQ-9B missiles in the Sinai Peninsula lately, and most of its future contracts are going to China. Hopefully, a sense of peace will erupt in the region, but I doubt it when Israel, the victim, is continuously genociding, attacking, and killing civilians by the thousands and is all around hated and not trusted for realistic reasons. "Peace" there is held by the thread of understanding that direct aggression with Israel is basically fighting the USA, not love for Israel
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Mamamama290103 days ago
+8
You point doesn’t make any sense since before China, the USSR supplied plenty of weapons to a lot of these countries. The west never had a monopoly of weapons.
I also never claimed their relationship is perfect, but Egypt, Jordan, and Israel don’t waste a lot of time condemning each other’s countries to death, and cooperate openly on “anti-terror” operations in the region, especially Egypt and Israel in the Sinai peninsula.
Where else do you expect Egypt to deploy its weapons? Their main problem is with stability in the Sinai peninsula, not somewhere else in the country.
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yvesp903 days ago
+11
The USSR hasn't been around since 1991 mate...
Most of Egypt's weapons came from Russia (around third), then France, Germany and Italy. If you don't understand China and Russia's values to them then I think you may need to look more into Iran. Iran was able to defend themselves because they were forced to mainly use Russian and mainly Chinese weaponry. China is the only country that would be willing to actually sell weapons to Egypt that can do actual damage. HQ-9B is equivalent to Patriot which is the US's top tier, furthermore, the US controls how you use your weapons, hence why Germany doesn't have control over its missiles and needs Pentagon's approval.
Egypt always knew that most of its weapons can be easily turned off in a direct conflict with Israel. From that to sanctions to embargos. It's in their best interest to "behave". This isn't really peace, this is the effects on one side's lobbying. I'd advise you to read Nixon's writings about it.
Oh yeah I wonder why Egypt deploys their weapons in the place you literally just said Israel marches in, in conflicts. I am shocked, definitely to defend against the walking sand
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Mamamama290103 days ago
+10
Egypt deploys its weapons in the Sinai because of IS, and Egypt and Israel worked together to put them down. Also because Gaza is a shitty neighbor.
The only things that can be “turned off” are very advanced weapons systems like patriots and f-35s. Can’t turn off a rifle or even a tank.
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yvesp903 days ago
+9
Starved out population is a shitty neighbor yes. I know what you mean but yeah I didn't expect better
Reread what I wrote because the second sentence is useless in light of what I originally stated
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cheesebabychair3 days ago
-5
This guy is wrong
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fury4203 days ago
+7
They've already invaded, occupied, and then returned southern Lebanon three times before.
If they truly wanted to keep southern Lebanon, they've had ample opportunities and chose not to.
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Stuffstuff13 days ago
-3
Will probably change it for recognition and for a commitment to actually get rid of Hez for real.
Edit: hez not Hamas
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TransplantTeacher943 days ago
Oh yeah, they super promised to give back the land with Hezbollah gone, just like when Hitler promised not to invade Czechoslovakia after being given the Sudetenland.
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HungryCurrency84813 days ago
+1
Case in point: the Golan Heights and West Bank
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Moneyshot_ITF3 days ago
+1
Hezbollah or whatever name they make up next has nothing to do with any of this
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virtual_adam3 days ago
-5
They’ve done it before and would do it 100 more times. Netanyahu himself gave Hebron back to the Palestinians from Israeli control in 1997. Then there was the first time
Israel left Lebanon in 1999 and Gaza in 2006.
I would say it’s the other way around, Israel keeps trying again and again to leave safety parameters and it blows up in their faces. Because the Palestinian resistance believes all of Israel stolen during the Naqba must be given back. So no matter how much Israel recedes, if they don’t give back Haifa or northern Tel Aviv, the war will continue forever
And I’ll go one step further. Settlers are only 4% of Israelis. There are plenty of videos on YouTube of IDF soldiers and police crushing settler skulls (famous quote from an ex police chief) when removing them from illegal settlements and from Gaza
Israelis would do it again gladly. But at the current status quo, Israelis believe settlers are their own human shields. When settlers left Gaza, it’s the socialist towns behind them that got targeted
If the cities and towns behind the settlers felt safe . No one would feel bad about bulldozing settlements to the ground
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a2z_1233 days ago
+5
>Netanyahu himself gave Hebron back to the Palestinians from Israeli control in 1997.
He was supposed to give back more. The only reason why he did it... was a negotiation tactic to be able to define certain things so that he could use that so he wouldn't have to give up more. to be more exact and use his language at around that time...
"that Israel, and Israel alone will define the "Military Facilities", their locations and size. Now, they didn't want to give this letter. so I refused to ratify the Hebron Accords (of 1997). I stopped the governmental meeting and I said: "I won't sign". And only when the letter has arrived, during that meeting, to me and to Arafat, I signed the Hebron Accords. Or to ratified it, if to be exact, it was already signed. Why is this important. Because at that very moment, in fact, I halted the fulfillment of the Oslo Agreements. "it's better to give 2% than 100%. And this is the choice we're facing. "You gave 2%, but you stopped the withdrawal, rather than 100%". The wisdom is not there to be there and break, but rather be there and pay the minimum."
>Then there was the first time Israel left Lebanon in 1999 and Gaza in 2006.
Who fulfilled the promise of leaving Lebanon? It wasn't netanyahu. It was Barak
As far as Gaza in 2006, it was 2005. It was a means to reduce costs. They could easily control them from the outside, no need to really be inside to control. Also who did it, hint it wasn't netanyahu, it was Ariel Sharon. The aim was to solidify control over major West Bank settlement blocs while abandoning unsustainable and isolated Gaza settlements.
>I would say it’s the other way around
I'm sure you would, doesn't mean it's accurate.
>Israel keeps trying again and again to leave safety parameters and it blows up in their faces.
My way or the highway isn't a negotiation.
>Because the Palestinian resistance believes all of Israel stolen during the Naqba must be given back. So no matter how much Israel recedes, if they don’t give back Haifa or northern Tel Aviv, the war will continue forever
We will never know because of netanyahu. If he would have followed the Oslo Accords as negotiated... we'd be in a very different place.
>And I’ll go one step further. Settlers are only 4% of Israelis.
As with most other things you have said here... that's not accurate. I think you are cherry picking information. The latest number I can find puts it at about 10 to 11%, the only thing close to 4% would be the illegal settlements in the West Bank. There are others in East Jerusalem, Syria's Golan Heights, etc, etc.
>There are plenty of videos on YouTube of IDF soldiers and police crushing settler skulls (famous quote from an ex police chief) when removing them from illegal settlements and from Gaza
Okay, if there are plenty, let's see some.
Here's something you seem to not know... The settlers are backed by the government.
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PuzzleheadedEmu45963 days ago
Yes, they still regret occupying Lebanon from the 1980s to 2000.
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Shouly3 days ago
-4
They gave back plenty of land in previous wars so precedence is yes they give it back.
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Idont_thinkso_tim3 days ago
-5
Sure why not? They tried to give back rhe West Bank tk Jordan many times but Jordan refuses. Tried to
Give Gaza back to Egypt six times bur Egypt refused for the same reason Jordan did, the Palestinians were always terrorizing them and attempting coups, or to assassinate peoppe etc. then Gaza was freely given to Palestine in efforts for peace and thousands of Jews were forcibly Removed to appease the Palestinian demand for ethnic cleaning, but Palestine chose to immediately attack Israel and yet again, call to exterminate all Jews.
The problem has never been Israel’s lack of trying to give land back. It’s always been the Palestinian violence and obsession with Islamic imperialism and Jewish extermination.
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Cannon_Fodder8883 days ago
-5
They will certainly get it back once Hezbollah is buried forerver.
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FifteenthPen3 days ago
+67
At this point the list of crimes against humanity committed by the government of Israel is longer than a CVS receipt.
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ArdaBerkBurak3 days ago
+89
It seems Israel can't stop attacking other countries.
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fascistno1hater3 days ago
+50
Israel is a Terrorist Nation and that's all there is to it. All they do is commit war crimes and terrorism but because they are white in this world they get away with it. Any other middle eastern country doing this to their neighbors and we would have parliaments all around the world calling for their deaths. America does the same thing too!
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WheresWaldo853 days ago
-8
No they're not lmao
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Theduckisback3 days ago
+6
"When the Israeli military does it with US backing it's not terrorism, its simply military action that results in dead civilians."
Are the civilians any less dead because of Israel's supposed institutional legitimacy?
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WheresWaldo853 days ago
-4
You speak on platitudes
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Theduckisback3 days ago
+5
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-politics/2026-03-26/ty-article/.premium/no-innocent-children-israeli-lawmaker-defends-killing-of-palestinian-family/0000019d-2976-d8a3-abff-39764b2e0000
No, I simply pay attention to what Israeli politicians say, watch how their government and military acts and come to the obvious, logical conclusion. Is it a "platitude" to take someone's words at face value?
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WheresWaldo853 days ago
-4
Oh wow another top % commentator disagreeing with comments
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Theduckisback3 days ago
+5
Wow another apologist for Israel who would rather talk about anything besides the words and actions of the Israeli government.
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One_Study523 days ago
+25
Do you think Israel ever did a ceasefire?
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The_Munchies103 days ago
+34
Did you miss the part where Israel killed over 300 civilians. Israel would bomb you and your family if the so called terrorist were nearby.
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[deleted]3 days ago
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GhostWaffle1233 days ago
+24
Woe is Israel having to kill children for killing alleged terrorists. You're either completely daft or morally bankrupt to look at the blatant massacres happening in the region and thinking this.
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The_Munchies103 days ago
+11
Of course it won’t work. Israel doesn’t stop at women and children. Israel themselves would sacrifice their own civilians by embedding its military operations/bases in urban areas.
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One_Study523 days ago
+10
The world should end Israel. This genocidal terrorist state has to go
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
-17
And? You act like that’s a problem
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The_Munchies103 days ago
+15
Maureen you sweet little pie. Until it happens you, it’s all fair and love in war.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
-11
What do you think is happening right now lol? You’re exactly right. Just make sure your shot counts…
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The_Munchies103 days ago
+19
Maureen it’s time to get your head checked.
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Barylis3 days ago
+10
No I missed the part where Israel held up their end of the ceasefire.
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LEFT4Sp00ning3 days ago
+6
Yup. This is from the 17th of October 2025, [by the UN](https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/10/un-experts-warn-against-continued-violations-ceasefire-lebanon-and-urge): "Since the ceasefire came into force, the Lebanese Armed Forces have recorded almost daily violations and the Israel Defense Forces have been quoted as confirming over 500 airstrikes on what it alleges are Hezbollah targets. The United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights has verified 108 civilian casualties in Lebanon, including 71 men, 21 women, and 16 children. At least 19 abductions of civilians from Lebanon by Israeli soldiers, which may amount to cases of enforced disappearances, have also been recorded in the southern region."
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_Not_A_Vampire_3 days ago
+6
Feels like Israel is doing a speed run in 'how to burn all good will with the rest of the world'.
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Honeycove913 days ago
+34
"The secret ingredient is crime!"- Super Hans
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ConanTheBarbarian_03 days ago
+9
Good to see peep show references in 2026
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Punawild3 days ago
+22
isreali ‘attacks’ prevent Lebanese infants from SURVIVING their father’s funerals.
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refused263 days ago
+2
We shouldnt put attacks in quotation marks
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Punawild2 days ago
+1
My point for it was that they are still using as slight and as passive wording as they can when it comes to isreal. It isn’t simply little attacks stopping people from being able to bury their dead. It is the invaders bombing funerals, with the desire to butcher, slaughter and exterminate.
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brwnwzrd3 days ago
+6
The Israeli government is the 4th Reich. F*** those Nazis.
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breadandbunny3 days ago
+11
Can these leaders be charged with war crimes? This is egregious.
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upvoteoverflow3 days ago
+27
They were. That’s why they can’t travel to countries that will send them to the ICC
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GeshtiannaSG3 days ago
+4
That won’t be true soon with Hungary.
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SoggySausage273 days ago
+4
Nah, the new guy is chill with bibi to too lol
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GeshtiannaSG3 days ago
+2
That’s what I mean. They’re legally required to arrest him, but he’ll be there on invitation instead.
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amy-schumer-tampon3 days ago
+4
Their ancestral land was promised to Israel 6 million years ago.
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FrancisCabrou3 days ago
+1
How low can Israel go ? Destroying school and children ? Nvm already passed that point
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podkayne30003 days ago
-23
If people in Lebanon weren’t firing rockets at Israel, maybe Israel wouldn’t care about Lebanese burial grounds.
Israel is not a model of great behavior right now, but neither is Hezbollah.
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issm3 days ago
+22
Hezbollah exists because israel invaded Lebanon back in the... 80s, I want to say? and seized a bunch of land.
You don't get to whine about resistance groups you provoked by invading.
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podkayne30001 day ago
+1
I think that’s a reasonable response, but, from the perspective of people on either side being bombed now, what happened before they were bombed isn’t to relevant. They just want not to be bombed.
Obviously, this works in the reverse, too. Lebanese people being bombed now don’t really care about the history. They want the current bombing to go away.
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CressCheap3 days ago
-7
And these “””resistance””” groups don’t get to whine they can’t burry their dead when they keep on provoking wars like they did in 2006, 2023 and 2026 AGAINST the will of the Lebanese government and population
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issm3 days ago
+9
I like how you're doing that israeli apologist thing where you're pretending like the local civilians are the same as the resistance group while pretending to care about the civilians.
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CressCheap3 days ago
-7
Hezbollah literally operates from civilian areas. Nobody even in Lebanon denies that, quite the opposite. That’s why people there are mad at them. And that’s the reality of when you decide to operate from civilian areas - civilians get hurt too.
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issm3 days ago
+4
Lmao, israel apologists are still acting like the civilians aren't the targets, after how many years of the israeli military blatantly lying about HaMaS in hospitals.
Also, *literally everyone* operates from civilian areas.
Like, I can open a map right now and go to, oh, I don't know, Norfolk, and there's *two* US naval bases right next to suburbs.
As it turns out, it's just more convenient to operate close to where you live instead of having to drive out to the middle of nowhere to set up an obvious target?
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CressCheap3 days ago
-6
Hamas was in and still is in hospitals. Recently MSF had to reduce its activity in Nasser hospital due to the presence of Hamas militants in the hospital. It’s not me saying this, they themselves released a press release about this. Look it up.
And there is a difference between having a defined and confined military base like you pointed out to fighting and shooting from literal neighborhood houses and storing weapons in schools and hospitals. In these cases the ability to target militants only is reduced significantly, especially when they render these installations a viable target according to the Geneva convention by using them for military purposes. Mind you, it is a militia that Israel fights, not the army of Lebanon which is not a side to this conflict atm.
And above all that, the MO of both Hezbollah and Hamas (as well as Iran as we’ve just seen) is to fire unguided rockets and missiles indiscriminately directly onto civilian population. So why the double standard?
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issm3 days ago
+4
Right, so just ignore all of the video evidence of the IOF committing war crimes targeting civilians, obvious non-combatants, because a resistance force who doesn't have access to the most modern military equipment needs to use the unguided rockets they can get their hands on.
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CressCheap3 days ago
These things aren’t mutually exclusive. There can be war crimes but also valid targeting with collateral damage.
Hezbollah is not a resistance force. It is a militia that uses its weapons to asset political dominance and control over the Lebanese political system and uses Israel as an excuse to hold its weapons when all other militias disarmed in the early 90’s. They were the ones to start unprovoked wars with Israel in the last 30 years in 3 different times.
If they can’t not shoot rockets at civilians in unguided matter, then they shouldn’t start wars that brings only destruction to their supporters and their communities.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
-85
Seems like that’s the price you pay for letting terrorist take over your country for Iran.
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VillageIdiot513 days ago
+39
Bigot statement. Still does not change the fact that Isreal is committing genocide against these people or are you okay with that because Isreal says they're all terrorists?
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2020bubbles3 days ago
+6
Words have lost all meaning
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
-27
Funny, Iran has already killed more people this year in their own country than terrorist in Gaza.
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VillageIdiot513 days ago
+22
What's that got to do with Lebanon? Sure Iran is bad but Isreal aren't the good guys either. Iran can hate the US all they want but this is not our fight which means Isreal finally found someone stupid enough in charge in the US to actually go to war for them.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
-21
lol username checks out. Iran has been funding all of Israel’s neighbors to destabilize and destroy it. Now the fight is at their front door finally.
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VillageIdiot513 days ago
+12
Only because they ( Palestinians )want what was taken from them 70 years ago. I'm not saying that makes it right but it does put the hatred into perspective.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
+12
Funny how it never existed as a country ever. And that they were a part of Egypt and Jordan until they were left to fend for themselves.
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KaiBahamut3 days ago
+7
Israel never existed as a country either until ‘48- Terra Nullis was argument, Europe used the same logic to steal Native Land since they didn’t recognize the laws of the land.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
+9
Yet it was land from the Ottoman Empire.
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KaiBahamut3 days ago
+3
Not much of it. Britain gave them about half the land and they wanted more.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+1
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
+6
Just like the Jews hahaha
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VillageIdiot513 days ago
+15
do you?
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Thoresus3 days ago
+3
What price do you pay for letting terrorists take over Israel ?
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WallyMcBeetus3 days ago
+7
"Mission accomplished" much?
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SmokeLauncher3 days ago
+3
Hezbollah exists because Israel kept attacking Lebanon. If Israel didn't keep attacking it's neighbours resistance wouldn't have born Hezbollah. Israel just killed 300 civilians in a 10 minute time frame recently.
[Wiki Link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezbollah)
>Hezbollah was founded in 1982 by Lebanese clerics in response to the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.[21]
[AP on 300 killed by Israel](https://apnews.com/article/israel-lebanon-hezbollah-beirut-strikes-46a82d3758b7d0df9ac6df7bd18f936a)
>Lebanon reeled Thursday after the deadliest day of the renewed war between Israel and the Iranian-backed Hezbollah militant group, with the death toll exceeding 300 people as more remains were pulled from rubble and bodies identified at hospitals.
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Maureen_Johma3 days ago
+1
Hmmm I wonder why that happened huh?
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SmokeLauncher3 days ago
+18
I do wonder why Israel keeps killing kids and then blames the victims for it yes.
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GhostWaffle1233 days ago
+1
I hope you never have to contend with the fact that your child was killed because some other country lobbed a missile at you out of sheer malice.
Disgusting callous behavior.
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CressCheap3 days ago
+5
This is literally what Israeli residents in the north are going through right now because Hezbollah keeps on invoking wars against the will of Lebanon
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