Israeli bulldozers raze about 50 Palestinian shops ahead of settlement-linked road project

I’m sure Operation Paperclip helped a bit with that.

How do you think Europe got so rich?  No, this is a drop in the racism bucket.

Nah we're number 2 at best, the British were on an entirely different level from the rest of the world.  

I can think of a better choice for number 1

He's just a spokesperson for the New Grand Canyon. He's not an ideas man.

Wanna know the easy (not good) answer? Russia has nukes and allies (the former being much more important, realistically). Palestine has neither. In different ways, israel, Russia, Ukraine, and Palestine have demonstrated why disarmament is not a very good answer in an age of imperialism. Ukraine gives up nukes, now can be invaded. Russia has nukes, limits the range of retaliatory measures. israel has nukes (that they all but officially acknowledge), gives them collateral (in a pretty unique way, since no other country ever has, or probably ever will, use nukes as a threat *against their allies* in order to guarantee continued support). Palestine never had nukes, has always been victim. Nukes are not the answer to these things alone, and are objectively bad for humanity. However, you're never gonna convince a place like NK to stop their program, places like India/Pakistan to disarm, or even a country like Iran that they have no right to them. We've seen time and time again that, in a world where countries (primarily, but not only, America) are happy to wage war at the drop of a hat, nukes have a value. You think Maduro would be in a Brooklyn jail if Venezuela had nukes?

Yeah, but we aren’t paying Zelensky to keep the bed warm for Sky Daddy.

Has been since 1948.

I think Donald Trumps existence as your president has exposed the world and all of the systems in place for how fucked up they are. Usually they would manufacture consent in some way, but Donald Trump barely made up any excuses/reasons, just the same tired old *"iran no nuke, 2 weeks away from nuke blah blah, oil blah."* Most people are generally ignorant, but not dumb.

Feels like you are erasing a lot of history here dude. Hamas was a charitable organisation before they became more militant(following the first intifada) and Israel's crimes against the Palestinians existed before Netanyahu.

It's not just the US and UK, so many governments just ignore it or actively support it. It's worse because their populations are definitely against it.

And Germany to veto any real EU actions.

I agree, but I was more pointing out that it's all become so blatant, where they are acting like they are untouchable and can do whatever they want. Whether it's Israel or the US.

That's basically every age. Someone has to be the Nazis at any given time.

There's nothing moral about Israel. It's a settler colonial state founded on ethnic cleansing that commits acts of terrorism regularly. Imagine Iran did Stuxnet to Israel, it would be called terrorism. Imagine Iran did the pager explosives thing to the IDF, it would be called terrorism. Those things would be called terrorism because they were terrorism. Done by terrorist state Israel.

Because Israel is the topic of the article... Also I am talking about how blatant countries are being, obviously all countries have committed atrocities. If we're talking about Israel specifically, they have committed atrocities that are heinous and comparable to the larger countries you are hinting at. However, the blatantness and how we are expected to not speak about it, like you are doing now is the reason people single out Israel.

I single out Israel because they are constantly bragging about being the only democracy in the middle east, having the most moral army in the world and i take them by their own word and hold them accountable to their self set standards. Also because they never admit any wrongdoing and have a bag full of moral justifications ready for whatever atrocities come to light.

Complete load of shit.  Where are these atrocities you speak of, and are we giving them billions of dollars and thousands of bombs to do genocide with?

Because Israel and an example of its recent actions is what this particular article is about? 🙄

Ahh I was almost missing the daily dose of whataboutism.

"Oh, you sweet summer child."

oh as long as the Israeli state says it's okay!

It *is a conspiracy*.  Mentioning it *isn't a conspiracy theory*. There's a difference.

Hard to call it that when there was a covert base in Iraq.

And are acting on it.

It is still a conspiracy in its original meaning. A conspiracy doesn't need to be secret, while a conspiracy theory is about something that is being kept secret from the public you think is resulting in certain harmful actions.

That’s said in whispers if you want to stay on the safe side of things.

A creative pun, but by 'keenly' I meant looking closely at the logistical expansion of infrastructure. It’s hard to ignore the physical reality of projects like this, regardless of the 'wailing' on either side.

Isn't Israel as well?

Ethnic cleansing

> the Palestinians have nothing to do with that. yup, in fact something that is often never brought up, look at how Palestinians fought against the Nazis in WW2: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-05-31/ty-article/.premium/historian-12-000-palestinians-fought-for-u-k-in-wwii-alongside-jewish-volunteers/0000017f-db14-d856-a37f-ffd4017f0000 https://daily.jstor.org/palestinians-against-fascism/ https://raseef22.net/english/article/1095802-the-12000-palestinians-who-fought-against-the-nazis-in-world-war-ii https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/when-palestinian-arabs-and-jews-fought-the-nazis-side-by-side-593052 12,000 soldiers who fought to help save the Jewish people, and look how the British and zionists treated them afterwards. They were made to suffer the consequences of WW2 despite having nothing to do with anything, somehow all the western nations didn't do anything and Germany in particular. And this is a lot more than any of the [zionists and founders of Israel did for the holocaust victims](https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1181/zionism-and-holocaustabuse/) who only cared about using the holocaust for PR and Ben-Gurion was only concerned about the state of Israel over holocaust victims/survivors: > In spite of the certainty that genocide was being carried out, the Jewish Agency executive did not deviate appreciably from its routine ... Two facts can be definitively stated: Ben-Gurion did not put the rescue effort above Zionist politics and he did not regard it as a principle task demanding his personal leadership. > Ben-Gurion was clear that in the event of “a conflict of interest between saving individual Jews and the good of the Zionist enterprise, we shall say the enterprise comes first” > > From the outset of the war the Zionists took a conscious decision that their priority was the building of a Jewish state, not the rescue of Jews from Europe. They actively opposed Jews going anywhere but Palestine. When Britain agreed to the Kindertransport - the admission of 10,000 Jewish children from Germany after the Krystallnacht pogrom - David Ben Gurion was furious. > > “If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.” - Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

Iran will more than likely come out on top and be the leader of the area. Israel has done many bad things and at the moment are allowed to for example commit genocide freely. The world can thank Trumpf for giving Iran the idea to control the straight of Hormuz. Pretty much handing Iran the entire deck of cards.

Can you see the difference in the way that this would change the way the info is presented? "Israeli bulldozers raze about 50 Palestinian shops ahead of settlement-linked road project" is different than, "Israel conducted planned demolitions of Palestinian Shops ahead of Palestinian settlement linking project". The former is sensationalist outrage bait that y'all are falling for.