Israeli forces kill Palestinian couple and two of their children in occupied West Bank

We didn’t get rid of it completely. We just rebranded it into something much “nicer”. Look into the Alabama prison system. It’s a shit show.

>And we got rid of it i mean, even within the strictest definition, no we didn't

If by got rid of it you mean changed it slightly so they had to incarcerate them first before they could make them slaves then sure they totally got rid of slavery.

> And we got rid of it... Not really. Just remodeled it. And then for an encore we let the "Lost Cause" crowd destroy Reconstruction.

There's even people who claim anyone committing right wing genocide or similar today won't be a "Nazi" unless they start actively targeting Jewish people. It's crazy how some people are capable of absolutely missing the point of what makes some things despicable.

The more I read about the practices of Israel, the less I like it (not that I ever liked it in the first place). Does that make me an Antisemite? (rhetorical question)

yup, here are some links to information about how terribly Israel has treated holocaust survivors and only uses the holocaust for zionist PR or the classic of playing the victim with it to try and justify their ongoing genocide and actions over the years, as if it gives them a blank check to do w.e they want: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/one-third-of-israeli-holocaust-survivors-live-in-poverty-advocates-say https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/israel-abuses-holocaust-survivors https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7627438/ https://kb.osu.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/367cb008-aa0c-5da7-ac6d-8f62a4e0ac7a/content https://palestinenexus.com/articles/zionists-holocaust-survivors And this use of the holocaust for PR happened [as far back as during the holocaust itself](https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1181/zionism-and-holocaustabuse/): > As early as September 1942, when most of Europe’s Jews were still alive, the Zionists were thinking of creating a memorial to them. The creation of Yad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Centre, was proposed. This was seen as “the very last opportunity to score any financial success”.39 At this time the Jewish Agency had not even acknowledged that there was a holocaust. Tom Segev comments: > "There was no clearer, more grotesque, even macabre expression of the tendency to think of the holocaust in the past tense: while the Yishuv discussed the most appropriate way to memorialise them, most of the victims were still alive." > Gerhard Riegner, the World Jewish Congress representative in Geneva during the war, articulated how the Zionist movement saw the holocaust. He believed that > "Auschwitz was not only a national memory belonging to the Jewish people … it was also an important political asset. Among other things it served the diplomatic efforts of both the WJC and Israel." > For Zionism the proposed Jewish state was eternal. The Jews who died in the holocaust would have died anyway. This is not dissimilar to the fascist idea that the state is everything, the individual is nothing. For some early zionist leaders and thinkers, apart from using the holocaust for political goals, their thoughts on the holocaust survivors were them seeing the survivors as "weak" and not worthy to the "[strong Jew](https://mondoweiss.net/2019/05/the-strong-weak/)" they wanted for their new nation. https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=4060 > many sabras and immigrants who had lived in Eretz Yisrael for some time were not accepting of the survivors, especially as a group, even though Holocaust survivors were precisely the people many supporters of Zionism had in mind when calling for the formation of the Jewish state. The sabras and long-time immigrants' reluctance to accept the survivors stemmed from the belief that the Holocaust proved that Jews could not survive outside of Eretz Yisrael. Moreover, the perception common among Israelis that most Holocaust victims died like "sheep being led to the slaughter" may be understood as being influenced by the Zionist understanding of the galut as inherently weak. The fact that many Holocaust survivors were understandably physically weak after their ordeals only contributed to the sense of superiority (albeit often mixed with genuine sympathy) exhibited by many Israelis. This attitude, and Yablonka's sharp rejoinder to it, is nicely encapsulated in title of the book's first chapter: "Really, 'Human Dust?'" https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1181/zionism-and-holocaustabuse/ > As Zertal has noted, whilst Zionism nationalised the holocaust, harnessing it to the chariot of racism, “it excluded the direct bearers of this memory - some quarter of a million holocaust survivors who had immigrated to Israel” - from funding. The impoverishment of the actual holocaust survivors in Israel, despite the billions Israel received by way of reparations, is a scandal. > When Britain agreed to the Kindertransport - the admission of 10,000 Jewish children from Germany after the Krystallnacht pogrom - David Ben Gurion was furious: > "If I knew that it would be possible to save all the children in Germany by bringing them over to England, and only half of them by transporting them to Eretz Yisrael, then I would opt for the second alternative. For we must weigh not only the life of these children, but also the history of the people of Israel." - Ben Gurion if there is one link to read on this topic, I highly recommend this one that I've referenced and quoted several times here: https://weeklyworker.co.uk/worker/1181/zionism-and-holocaustabuse/ _____________________________________________________ many holocaust survivors or children of holocaust survivors are anti-zionist and call out Israel for a reason, cause they knew what Israel was doing was the same evil as the Nazis as they experienced it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysdhMsaG17A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3xuIdVjtiI https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/thirteen-holocaust-survivors-compare-zionist-policies-to-those-of-the-nazis/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28916761 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MON2HL02mec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFoHXuhq9mU and on that, one thing related to the holocaust is the many Palestinians who actually fought in WW2 against the Nazis and you never hear a peep about that: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-05-31/ty-article/.premium/historian-12-000-palestinians-fought-for-u-k-in-wwii-alongside-jewish-volunteers/0000017f-db14-d856-a37f-ffd4017f0000 https://daily.jstor.org/palestinians-against-fascism/ https://raseef22.net/english/article/1095802-the-12000-palestinians-who-fought-against-the-nazis-in-world-war-ii https://www.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/when-palestinian-arabs-and-jews-fought-the-nazis-side-by-side-593052 12,000 soldiers who fought to help save the Jewish people, and look how the British and zionists treated them afterwards.