John plays the king in the Nativity play. there's another. John, so to differentiate them all his friends end up calling him John King.
And there's another John who is very tall and as a joke they call him. John Short.
And there's a third John who has red hair so they call him. John Fox.
And then there's another. John, who is courting Mary who lives on the hill? if you want to know where John is, he's up that hill. so he's now John Hill.
Then one day the census guy comes around and he says you all need surnames.
or Samuel goes to London, he doesn't want to be a pig farmer. He will take his chances in London. he's asked his name 'Samuel Freeman'.
And 500 years later your descendants still carry the names hill and short and fox and king because of your banter 500 years ago, or the vibes some guy with your DNA was feeling.
Maybe there'll be a new thing for us when we join the galactic Union or whatever. You also have to include your favourite colour or something arbitrary and that will get passed down.
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NiobeTonksMar 27, 2026
+5
I laugh uproariously at Ancestry advertisements about finding what your ancestors’ job was. I have one of the most common occupational surnames in English. It’s absolutely obvious what my ancestors’ job was.
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HRHCookieMar 27, 2026
+2
The thing is though that that is only one job out of all your ancestors. It would be fun to see that there is no actual smith on record and they were all weavers
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NiobeTonksMar 27, 2026
+2
Yes! Unfortunately all of my ancestors were of absolutely no significance at all. There is no record of my family before WWI.
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HRHCookieMar 28, 2026
+2
Have you actually looked into it? The parish records were often very well kept. And local archives reveal a lot. There is point in English history where up to a third of adults were working as domestic servants
Google says: In the late 19th and early 20th century (especially around 1850–1910):
Domestic service was the single largest occupation in Britain.
Around 1 in 3 working women were in domestic service.
So even in light that there are newspaper clippings, photographs, school records etc. Very ordinary people can be very interesting too.
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NiobeTonksMar 28, 2026
+2
We have a very common surname! I might do one day.
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HRHCookieMar 28, 2026
+1
But my point is that you have one grandpa smith. But he had a non-smith spouse, and on your grandmother's side there are two other surnames, and so on up the tree. It is interesting to find out about all the people who contributed to your DNA.
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blondeheartedgoddessMar 27, 2026
+2
It's also how names like Baker, Cooper and Smith came about. They took their occupation as their surname.
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HRHCookieMar 27, 2026
+1
Sure. I agree and am aware of that. I just also find it funny how some were jokes and that they stuck too.
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blondeheartedgoddessMar 28, 2026
+2
I agree. I hadn't thought about those being from nicknames, but often wondered how they came to be all the same.
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