Why would military build up in Japan cause concern for any country other than mabye China ?
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Hanc3y2 days ago
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Maybe because Japan used to commit atrocities against many Asian countries and still denies wrongdoing.
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Public-Position77111 day ago
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Oh stop it. They have amazingly delicious and c**** onigiri at their 7-11s and are you into Pokémon?!
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Technical-Art498917 hr ago
What happened? No in history books taught so no!
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
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The source is a Chinese website, so the story is told from China's point of view.
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Puzzleheaded-Stage-615 hr ago
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WOW, are you saying Japanese atrocities in the WWII is just a story from "Chinese website"? And you get so many upvotes for this?
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Xylus19852 days ago
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Because of all the war crimes
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Sgt_Pepper_882 days ago
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Because Japan invaded China for three times.
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HoneyBadger5522 days ago
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they took on russia
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[deleted]2 days ago
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Stellewind2 days ago
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Stupidest comment I've read in years. When did China invade Japan and did unspeakable things?
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tooeasilybored2 days ago
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When did China invade/attack Japan?
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FindingAether1 day ago
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Well....technically speaking... China under the Yuan dynasty. It's kind of debatable since it's was under Mongolian rulership but then if that is so should we count acts by China under Qing as under Chinese as well or we can just exclude them..?
Either way, former Song naval talents and troops made up a huge percentage of the forces in the invasion.
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SaltGas37892 days ago
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When.. did China ever "do unspeakable things" on Japan? I don't remember a single case of China actually landing on Japan. Maybe the Yuan dynasty? but not only was that mongol lead, it was also fucked by the sea and never really touched Japan, so I don't know about any "unspeakable things done".
Meanwhile Japan across history
Constant piracy during the Yuan.
Invaded during the Ming, hitting Korea in an attempt to "conquer China" 1592
First Sino-Japanese war where they invaded the Qing, took Taiwan, Korea, Liaodong, Penghu, and forced china to pay massive fines and ports1895
Participated in the boxer rebellion, essentially slaughtering chinese civilians and storming the capital in 1900
Invaded Shandong in 1914
Pressured China to give up steel production, railways, and industry in southern manchuria in 1915
Completely took Machuria in 1931
Invasion of China/Second Sino-Japanese war in 1937.
Remind me where was the "turn" here?
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reddit56742 days ago
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Are you nuts? China never invaded Japan.
China has always been troubled by the Japan throughout the centuries.
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AggravatingJudge70922 days ago
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But that generation of Japanese and their ideology basically don't exist anymore.
Might aswell be concerned about the military build up in Germany, or stop trusting the UK which basically invaded the entire world and commited various atrocities over the course of centuries
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Deadman_Wonderland2 days ago
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Don't exist anymore? You really don't know anything do you? The ruling party, the LDP, was created by some of the highest war criminal of ww2 and is still in power to this very day. The previous prime minister Shinzo Abe, is the grandson of Nobosuke kishi, who was a Class A war criminal that over saw the atrocities in China, and he get to go to free because the US backed him so he could form the LDP. Takaichi is a member of the LDP and visits the shrine for Japanese war criminal religiously. The same people and ideology that ran WW2 Japan still is in power. There's a reason the US wrote the Japanese constitution after WW2. They knew they didn't change anything, so they had to put in rules.
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AggravatingJudge70922 days ago
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You can not honest to god tell me that present day Japan is considering invading China and commiting all those heinous crimes again. What I am saying is that their military buildup has nothing to do with their ambitions from a bygone era. Idolising that part of their history is concering and disgusting yes but that doesn't mean they are planning to seige Manchuria anytime soon. You might find some neckbeards on twitter that long for the return of the empire but twitter trolls are hardly indicative of an entire populous
I think you'll agree that the more likely explanation for building up their military is so they can protect their sovereignty and military independence, especially after the whole ordeal with Trump backstabbing US allies.
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Important-Emu-66912 days ago
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Most recent poll show most Japanese don’t even think it was a war of aggression, doesn’t think war crimes are committed, and think comfort women was voluntary
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AggravatingJudge70922 days ago
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"most Japanese" = 9% of people polled
And the comfort women part is just a straight up lie. The poll was about whether Japanese people viewed Japanese WW2 actions as self defense or being the agressor.
All this misinformation that is being brought up is typically found on platforms like Weibo and not a single credible source will mention anything like what you said
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Important-Emu-66912 days ago
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https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/nb-5090034529
> このうち「アジア近隣諸国に対する日本の侵略戦争だった」という意見に対しては、全国では
>▽「そう思う」が３５％
>▽「そう思わない」が１６％
>▽「わからない」が４８％でした。
Idk where you get the 9% from if you don’t count the 48 I don’t know portion it’s still 16%.
Not being able to find a credible source is just
you not wanting to look.
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AggravatingJudge70922 days ago
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This is a different poll with the same question being asked it seems. Still, 16% is a far cry from "Majority", and it's a huge stretch to go infer that "I have no opinion" means "I support brutal warcrimes and r*** of minors" and once again this poll has nothing to do with pleasure women
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Xylus19852 days ago
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What are you smoking? Their government is still worshipping war criminals today. It’s just the equivalent of German PM worshipping Hitler
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Witty_Formal73052 days ago
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Japan has a relatively recent history of doing some pretty abhorrant shit with their military.
China, Korea, Vietnam, the Phillipines just to name a few were invaded by them and while obviously their actions in China are more widely known, they weren't exactly the nicest people to be invaded by regardless, there are absolutely still people alive who were around for that and even for those that weren't it was recent enough that surely their stories were passed down to family members who were connected to them (i.e people will feel more strongly about something done to their mother / grandmother that they actually knew vs their great great great relative they don't have an actual connection with)
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Low-Temperature-69621 day ago
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The war ended 85 years ago.
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Salty_Simmer_Sauce1 day ago
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“The North remembers”
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Cattovosvidito1 day ago
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Tbh youre a fool if you think its actually over.
After Yugloslavia fell, all the old wounds that had been festering for over half a century reopened.
Armenians and Azerbaijans massacred each other before the first World War and went right to war in the 90's once they gained independence.
If Japan wants to be a regional military power they at the very least need to take back the Dokdo islands from Korea. If they cant even handle a small country like Korea, then who would believe that they can contain China?
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Low-Temperature-69621 day ago
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You are fool if recycling old wars is your idea of a good time.
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Comfortable_Bike32471 day ago
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Oh i dont know maybe because of all the war crimes Japan had committed and still deny to this day
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n33bulz19 hr ago
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Uuuuuh because of the horrible shit they’ve done to the entirety of south east Asia and have yet to apologize for?
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LinaLamontague15 hr ago
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Dozens of apologies have been made, most recently in 2024.
[List of war apology statements issued by Japan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan)
>September 29, 1972: Prime Minister Kakuei Tanaka said to the people of the People's Republic of China: "The Japanese side is keenly conscious of the responsibility for the serious damage that Japan caused in the past to the Chinese people through war, and deeply reproaches itself.
>August 24, 1982: Prime Minister Zenkō Suzuki said: "I am painfully aware of Japan's responsibility for inflicting serious damages [on Asian nations] during the past war." "We need to recognize that there are criticisms that condemn [Japan's occupation] as invasion"
>August 26, 1982: Chief Cabinet Secretary Kiichi Miyazawa said to the people of the Republic of Korea: "I. The Japanese Government and the Japanese people are deeply aware of the fact that acts by our country in the past caused tremendous suffering and damage to the peoples of Asian countries, including the Republic of Korea (ROK) and China, and have followed the path of a pacifist state with remorse and determination that such acts must never be repeated.
>May 25, 1990: Prime Minister Toshiki Kaifu, in a meeting with President Roh Tae Woo, said: "I would like to take the opportunity here to humbly reflect upon how the people of the Korean Peninsula went through unbearable pain and sorrow as a result of our country's actions during a certain period in the past and to express that we are sorry"
>January 17, 1992: Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa, at a policy speech on a visit to South Korea, said: "What we should not forget about the relationship between our nation and your nation is a fact that there was a certain period in the thousands of years of our company when we were the victimizer and you were the victim. I would like to once again express heartfelt remorse and apology for the unbearable suffering and sorrow that you experienced during this period because of our nation's act."
>July 6, 1992. Chief Cabinet Secretary Koichi Kato said: "The Government again would like to express its sincere apology and remorse to all those who have suffered indescribable hardship as so-called 'wartime comfort women,' irrespective of their nationality or place of birth. With profound remorse and determination that such a mistake must never be repeated, Japan will maintain its stance as a pacifist nation and will endeavor to build up new future-oriented relations with the Republic of Korea and with other countries and regions in Asia.
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SexyChernyshevsky2 days ago
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They don’t trust or like Japan in Korea either.
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Leading-Truck-79861 day ago
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My man has never picked up a history book before in his life
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Ngetop1 day ago
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DO you remember what Japan did after the US block their access to Oil, They invade entire SEA. How say it's not gonna happen again today?
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GunpowderGuy1 day ago
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Because of the atrocities they did to southeast asia ,which the govermnet vehemently denies and teaches it citizens never happened . Rethoric which influences the current military forces
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Public-Position77111 day ago
I don’t know. Let’s go ask some comfort women.
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Odd_Photograph_75912 days ago
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You can't trust any country, governments change change in a flash
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angelbelle2 days ago
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It says most trusted, not trusted. It's a comparison.
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heickelrrx2 days ago
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because China is well know to pushing their border to south east asian country, Like Recently
They have border conflict with Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippine, Vietnam, Thailand, Brunei, you name it
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Important-Emu-66912 days ago
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All of those countries also have maritime border conflicts with all of the other countries. It’s almost like theres a dispute over the same area between all of those countries due to well actually something Japan did
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heickelrrx2 days ago
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Dude China is so far away from Indonesia
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Important-Emu-66912 days ago
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Guam is pretty far from US main land too idk what distance have to do with anything.
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IamDDT2 days ago
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Dude, that is literally Trump's argument. That he can take territory from another country. That is the issue. Guam is internationally recognized as part of the US. Indonesia is manifestly not part of China, and neither is its internationally recognized EEZ.
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Comfortable_Tart_2972 days ago
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Dude, what kind of demented straw man did you come up with? China's not claiming Indonesia is a part of China. They're just participating in a free-for-all bickering over a bunch of uninhabited rocks in the South China Sea.
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Important-Emu-66912 days ago
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There isn’t a dispute over if Indonesia is part of China. The problem with SCS is there was a claim made by RoC according to their interpretation of the treaty of Taipei and treaty of San Francisco.
EEZ is a much later concept and a later claim, and the rules around it aren’t even agreed to.
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Cattovosvidito1 day ago
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Today I learned China shares a border with Philippines, Thailand, Brunei, Malaysia, and Indonesia.
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DrawingDramatic16411 day ago
Not true brunei is one island phillipenese and vietnam are the main ones
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HoneyBadger5522 days ago
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their military weapon sales will be astronomical
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MAClaymore1 day ago
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Japan isn't Southeast Asia.
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AyiHutha2 days ago
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I mean China is also building up its military and modern Japan is not Imperial Japan
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Hikarilo1 day ago
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Modern Japan is not Imperial Japan, but why does Modern Japan not even acknowledge the war crimes of the previous imperial government. Not even asking for an apology, but just to acknowledge that it did happen. This makes nations like China, South Korea, and other SEA nations nervous because Japan has never reflected on the atrocities it committed and said that's wrong and should not have happened.
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SeparateFun12881 day ago
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no, it makes YOU believe other countries are nervous lol
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Charger_Reaction77141 day ago
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Modern China is not imperial China either
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MothBoySailor1 day ago
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It's worse, actually.
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Flimsy-Ad27011 day ago
It makes 1 poor decision fkr that to change
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Own_Cherry_159221 hr ago
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Japan has no resources. Sooner or later they need to colonize.
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enkanshi2 days ago
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In the short-term, it will be better for East Asia for Japan to be a meaningful military power to contest China. The US is unreliable at this point. The SEA nations need a second power to balance against Chinese aggression. They are rather weak and cannot remain autonomous unless there are two sides they can play against.
Although I'm Chinese and am aware of Japanese atrocities, I strongly support Japanese military build-up, a Japanese nuclear weapons program, and a reform of their constitution to become more independent from the US.
That being said, in the long-term, it would not be inconceivable for Japan to become an enemy in the future. I am more positive about German remilitarization because they have made significant efforts to seek forgiveness for the Holocaust. The Japanese have been constantly denying their war crimes, so they are at great risk of turning aggressive due to nationalistic zeal in the future.
Frankly I wish the future could be better, but a series of bad choices from the power's major powers: US, China, Europe, and Russia have lead us into this situation.
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Aggravating-Coast3351 day ago
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别装中国人了
还“强烈支持日本的军事扩张、日本核武计划”呢，哈哈
这么喜欢巴结日本人的吗？
Don't pretend to be Chinese. And the "strongly support Japan's military expansion, Japan's nuclear weapons program", ha ha.
you so immersed in sucking up to the Japan?
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JerbTrooneet2 days ago
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JICA has been a huge help in this regard. People won't hate you if you literally help other countries build stuff that make their lives better. China tried to do this but their projects have so many strings attached that they came off as really untrustworthy.
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-Not-Your-Lawyer-2 days ago
Japan is considered part of Southeast Asia?
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Inner-Thought96652 days ago
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Why? China. That’s it. Japan apologize but China have other plans.
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MeBollasDellero2 days ago
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Because of… (fixed it)
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LateralEntry1 day ago
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Kinda crazy given Japan’s history in Southeast Asia
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Reveniant1 day ago
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Yeah I won't think about it too much if they stayed "self defense force". Switching it to regular force that has the ability to wage war is definitely not in my peace bingo card.
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