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static-klingon Apr 2, 2026 +786

This dude converted to Catholicism just to further a conservative scheme to promote a schism within the American Catholic community. JD Vance wants all Catholics to vote in lockstep with evangelicals. He also thinks he’s smarter and holier than the pope. It’s disgusting.

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Intrepid_Top_2300 Apr 2, 2026 +137

I would have been impressed if instead of Catholicism, he followed his wife’s traditional religion. If Vance had gone Hindu, I might of thought he was a stand up guy.

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ball_fondlers Apr 2, 2026 +30

I’m non-Hindu Indian - if he converted to Hinduism, that would be MUCH more terrifying than converting to fake Catholicism.

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axonxorz Apr 2, 2026 +3

Why?

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agrarian_miner Apr 3, 2026 +15

I am not sure if this is what ball_fondlers was saying, but I do find the prospect of American right-wingers adopting a westernized version of Hinduism quite terrifying. From a Western perspective, conservative Hindu's might seem quite mild compared to conservative Christians or Muslims. They don't have a history of converting people by the sword, and they don't seem to care what non-Hindus do outside of South Asia. That being said, you don't have to twist Hinduism a lot to make it the ideal religion to promote just-world-theology - a conservatives' favorite world view. Even with the Book of Job (the book the prosperity people roleplay in their heads all the time), Evangelical Christians really have to twist the bible to make God love billionaires and despise the poor. In Hinduism, though, caste and karma-driven reincarnation are right there for adaptation into an American framework.

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CcryMeARiver Apr 2, 2026 +6

BJP would break into US domestic politics bigtime. Way scarier than happyclappy catholicism.

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ball_fondlers Apr 3, 2026 +5

It’s pretty complicated, but for the most part, Hindus don’t really recognize conversion, nor do they try to proselytize - the only way most Hindus will recognize you as Hindu is if you’re born into a Hindu family (and the associated caste). As a result, the only Hindu group who tries to do conversions is the far-right Hindu nationalists, but not in a “we have an ideology we want to spread” way - no, they just want Indian Muslims and Christians back at the bottom levels of the caste system. As for how this ties into Vance - Vance’s favorite philosopher is a guy named Curtis Yarvin, who is a weird far-right technomonarchist who self-describes as having a Brahmin (the highest caste in Hinduism) upbringing, despite not being Indian. I don’t believe for a second that Vance would convert to Hinduism because he liked the mythology or philosophy - no, it would 100% be because he likes the idea of an American caste system.

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andardepelosuelto Apr 3, 2026 +1

Interesting. He has said some Americans are more Americans than others; “I think the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War have a hell of a lot more claim over America than the people who say they don’t belong,”

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Donny_Do_Nothing Apr 3, 2026 +1

> the people whose ancestors fought in the Civil War Surely he means both sides of that war, right? Right?

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bungpeice Apr 2, 2026 +23

He'd still be John Donald Pants. There is nothing he could do to whitewash the fact that he is cucked by 2 billionaires at once (Trump Theile)

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CcryMeARiver Apr 2, 2026 +3

Nochance Vance.

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jittery_raccoon Apr 2, 2026 +108

Shows that he doesn't understand Catholic culture. Modern Catholics generally aren't that fervent. In fact, many are culturally Catholic and live mostly secular lives. He also misunderstands how the structure of modern Catholicism does not lend itself well to fanaticism. Confession and atonement allows for anyone to be forgiven for sins. This is different from Calvanist philosophy that God has predetermined who is good or bad. Thus eliminating the need to prove you are "good". Catholicism is also a top down religion in which one is supposed to follow rules and the clergy. The Pope is the guide for God's will. Very different from Protestsntism which emphasizes an individual relationship with scripture rather than the clergy having authority over scripture interpretation. Basically, Catholics don't give a f*** if someone happens to be Catholic. It's not going to create the schism he thinks

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static-klingon Apr 2, 2026 +52

There are bishops and archbishops who are guilty of furthering this schism too. Luckily the pope has replaced a lot of them in America recently.

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Hairy_Mycologist_945 Apr 2, 2026 +17

Yup, the USCCB got quite radical and has been somewhat brought to heel by Francis and Leo, but there are still several bishops who are very prominent in US Catholic media, and a significant minority movement led by them, that are basically in revolt and schismatic. A lot of them are really more closely aligned to SSPX and other traditionalist movements than the Church itself these days. A lot of the anti-Vatican II types got better organized this past quarter century and congealed into groups of radical dipshits, much like many other types of groups of radical dipshits did.

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flea1400 Apr 2, 2026 +5

FYI. If this is true I find the bishop in question a bit wackadoodle. https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/you-rose-up-leaked-video-shows-bishop

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S0LO_Bot Apr 2, 2026 +3

I can’t be quite sure but it’s very possible. There are a few wack bishops in the U.S. There used to be one bishop (an administrative bishop though) that advocated for January 6. He got excommunicated though lol

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AlcibiadesTheCat Apr 2, 2026 +4

If the Pope excommunicates JD Vance, I'll convert back.

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Okonos Apr 2, 2026 +14

> Modern Catholics generally aren't that fervent. In fact, many are culturally Catholic and live mostly secular lives. Converts like him are a different breed.

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d3ssp3rado Apr 2, 2026 +4

Religious converts in general tend to be much more fanatic regardless of the actual faith.

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backstageninja Apr 2, 2026 +2

Also Catholics don't go gaga over converts like Evangelicals do (in my Northeastern US experience). They welcome converts sure, but if you weren't raised catholic you are often looked down on at least a little by a lot of the old school catholics

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konacoffie Apr 2, 2026 +6

Why compare it with Calvinism? Most Protestants in the US are not Calvinists.

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honkeycorn Apr 2, 2026 +37

Actually, most evangelicals are Calvinists but don’t understand that they’re Calvinists. You can hear it in their talk about God being “sovereign” and their extreme focus on grace. They don’t know what Calvinism is and can’t tell you any of its tenants, but their theology is deeply shaped by Reform theology.

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TooManyDraculas Apr 2, 2026 +11

I mean you can see it in their history. Most Evangelical denominations are offshoots of major American denominations in the Reformed umbrella. And Reform/Calvinist theology was the original baseline Evangelicalism grew out of.

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lennybriscoforthewin Apr 2, 2026 +7

Him and Newt Gingrich- two disgraceful examples of Catholic converts.

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static-klingon Apr 2, 2026 +7

Early 2000’s I graduated from a fairly affluent private liberal arts college - pretty much a feeder into Ivy League grad schools. A lot of the conservative men converted to Catholicism during their senior year. It was kind of bizarre, and I didn’t understand it at the time.

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Comprehensive_Tie431 Apr 2, 2026 +32

All religion is a scheme.

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static-klingon Apr 2, 2026 +17

Created by the biggest scammers of all time - humans.

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pnw1986 Apr 2, 2026 +9

People. What a bunch of bastards.

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Jesuismieux412 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Did anyone say thank you?

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Professional_Row_307 Apr 2, 2026 +841

I am convinced JD Vance is not a human let alone Catholic.

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ObjectOrientedBlob Apr 2, 2026 +83

I don't know.. The Epstein class and Catholics seems to have things in comon..

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Mrs_SmithG2W Apr 2, 2026 +13

Not to mention pedophiles are found in every human group, religious, school affiliated, sports, medicine etc., etc., etc. Judge the individual first, then the organization if it chooses to protect the powerful over the vulnerable.

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +89

*Catholic clergy. There’s a lot of Catholics out there, and it’s unfair to lump a billion in there as pedos. A lot of them are/were victims rather than perpetrators, but the upper echelon of the church sure seem to be aware and have done their part in cover ups etc

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Basic_Yam_715 Apr 2, 2026 +39

It is fair, I was Catholic. I stopped supporting the church completely after so many stories of SA and the cover-ups. I don't support pedophilia and certainly won't bring my kids around it.

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captcha_trampstamp Apr 2, 2026 +6

I used to work in insurance. Did you know churches often need to have an entirely separate policy JUST to cover child SA by clergy/church leaders?

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +15

Hey fair point - I ditched when I learned about the abuse. But I was about 16 and was fairly devout until my early teens. Catholic confirmation is why I started to quiet quit though (13 or so). I don’t like being told how to speak and there are so many hypocrite bullies in the system. It wasn’t until Sinead O’Connor ripped up the picture of the pope that things started to become more apparent on a larger scale of the pedophilia, and even that was met with dismay. Now we get to look back at residential schools and collectively say ‘f***’. The writing was on the wall. There are over a billion Catholics. I guarantee massive numbers are raised with no knowledge of rampant abuse or are oppressed by it, and that’s on the clergy. I don’t blame someone for not knowing better if they don’t know the facts.

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Athena_Pegasus Apr 2, 2026 +22

Catholics who donate their money to the organisation with leaders who continue to abuse their power over vulnerable populations? Catholics who defend a racket of moral extortion? I'm just trying to understand who were talking about here. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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shorugoru9 Apr 2, 2026 +6

If you raise these points with devout Catholics, they will tell you that's nothing, you should check out the medieval Catholic Church. The Church once was under the influence of the [Borgia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Borgias_$2011_TV_series$) family, which is akin to being run by the Mafia (good miniseries, too). But to a devout Catholic, all of this is to be expected, because the church is run by humans. What matters to devout Catholics is that Jesus created the Catholic Church to administer the sacraments. So, in essence, they have to put up with the human institution of the Church, because only the Catholic Church can administer the Eucharist.

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JQuilty Apr 2, 2026 +4

The Borgias weren't any better or worse than the other popes of the era, they just lost a power struggle.

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +9

The exact people to not support. I was a devout Catholic until about 12 or 13 and bounced complete by about 15 or 16. Catholics aren’t the only ones raping children and destroying indigenous cultures though, are they? I’m not defending anyone here, but coaches, police, teachers, extended family (basically anyone who can influence and intimidate young people and the working class) can and are guilty of these crimes as well. It’s a multi- and non-denominational disease of society and pretending it’s just the Catholics is a terrible take.

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roastbeeftacohat Apr 2, 2026 +2

if you feel god in church, you can't exactly turn your back on that church for being shitty; a religious person does not get to choose how they feel god. I'm an atheist, but I understand religion is outside the purview of reason. Reason is one way to explore one's relationship with god, but if you feel it another way you can't just switch because you want to.

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Bobambu Apr 2, 2026 +6

Nah. People are old enough to make hard choices.

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ObjectOrientedBlob Apr 2, 2026 +6

It is not unfair, because they still support the church knowing how much harm it has done to the world.

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +8

I was raised in that system, even went to school until grade 11 in the Catholic school system. Small town, few options. Got out when I could, but most peeps just care about what’s in front of them, especially in small communities. You learn about these abuses and then you decide what’s next. I didn’t choose at 8 to be Catholic, I chose at 16 to stop.

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ObjectOrientedBlob Apr 2, 2026 +8

I don't blame children. But I do blame adults for being catholics..

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +3

Same. Especially the ones who know what’s going on and can change what’s happening and choose not to.

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Long_arm_of_the_law Apr 2, 2026 +9

Your children are more likely to be abused by school staff than Catholic priests.

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bungpeice Apr 2, 2026 +4

The difference is there isn't a massive system to protect those abusers from justice. Source that stat for me please. I want to see how it was derived.

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Environmental-Car481 Apr 2, 2026 +5

The Catholic Church has for the most part opted to own up to the problems of the past and have taken many precautions to be better. The Epstein class however follows the lie and deny route without ever seeing their problems or even trying to do better.

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rmunoz1994 Apr 2, 2026 +4

Of course he isn’t human. He’s a couch.

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sexyinthesound Apr 2, 2026 +4

He’s part of Opus Dei, which is catholic in the same way Pete Hegseth is Christian.

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MaleficentPorphyrin Apr 2, 2026 +2

CIA lab made him like in American Dad.

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Dramatic-Emphasis-43 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Being in an actual Catholic Churches hurts him for some reason.

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Corsaer Apr 2, 2026 +2

Just now confirmed: JD Vance the illegitimate love child of [Real Human Ted Cruz](https://www.tedcruzforhumanpresident.com/).

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Cheese0089 Apr 2, 2026 +267

Can you be catholic when 2 popes denounce you and you kill one of them?

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SidewaysFancyPrance Apr 2, 2026 +55

Yeah this is the biggest surprise of the day, I am amazed he's Catholic because of the derision towards Catholics in MAGA, hatred of the Pope and open flaunting of his teachings, and the Evangelical death grip that seems to be steering them (and Evangelicals hate hate *hate* Catholics). I suppose there's an outside chance it's all performative.

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testamoderaway Apr 2, 2026 +41

He's of the sect that's basically just evangelicals in fancier hats. His entire religious identity is defined in protest of the catholic church. He is quite literally a protestant.

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Bawstahn123 Apr 2, 2026 +9

\>He's of the sect that's basically just evangelicals in fancier hats. They like the aesthetics, hierarchy and communal-control, IIRC

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crankyconductor Apr 2, 2026 +8

>They like the aesthetics That's a massive part of the American Evangelical and Fundamentalist inferiority complex, honestly. They are really, *really* self-conscious about the fact that they don't have any majestic buildings or \~dramatic\~ liturgical traditions, and also that they're very much the Johnny-come-latelys of Christianity. They want the camp flair and historical legitimacy of Catholicism and Judaism, but they really, really hate Catholics and Jews. It'd almost be funny if it wasn't so sad.

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armadillorevolution Apr 2, 2026 +2

I thought they intentionally didn't build fancy buildings though, because that's idolatry or whatever and the focus should be on worship. Nobody is stopping them from building fancy buildings and wearing fancy outfits if they want to, I thought that was a deliberate choice they were making?

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crankyconductor Apr 2, 2026 +2

So I'm getting into pure hypothetical territory here, take it with a big bag of salt, but if I had to guess, they'd like to have their cake and eat it too. They don't want to be seen building the fancy buildings and wearing the fancy outfits, exactly, but they'd like to have the veneer of legitimacy they think those trappings lend other, older religions. I'm basing this mostly on the absolutely buckwild appropriation of Judaism and Jewish tradition by specifically fundamentalist nutters, where they basically do cargo cult Judaism. Shitty passover seders where yeasted, risen bread is a major focus, shabbat meals on Sundays, kids cosplaying with Temu tallitot, shofar blowing at and by specifically Christian churches, that kind of nonsense. (I've seen all of those examples from assorted fundies online.) You don't generally see weirdness like that in the swankier protestant denominations like Presbyterianism or Anglicanism, and my guess is because they carved out a \[Big Fancy Building and Fancy Clothes with Elaborate Rituals\] space for themselves that modern evangelicalism and fundamentalism are only just starting to realize that they miss. Look at the megachurches, with their light shows and over-the-top everything. As someone raised Catholic (recovering, thankfully), I find it all kind of tacky and gauche, but it's clearly filling a spiritual need for people. The fundamentalists are in an even tougher spot, because many of them have branched out and split like the Judean People's Front on steroids, and they tend to do church in strip malls and people's living rooms. People like ritual, they like belonging, and the modern fundies are *acutely* aware that they don't have ritual or tradition on their side, so...cargo cult Judaism it is. They also believe it makes them the True Church, and they're getting back to the *real* Christianity, which is to say, not Jewish, just Jew-ish.

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armadillorevolution Apr 2, 2026 +2

Wow this is really fascinating, thank you for such a thorough response I was not expecting that! I've definitely seen bits of the 'cargo cult Judaism' thing here and there online, but didn't connect it to this broader need for legitimacy and ritual though (and didn't realize it was widespread, tbh, thought it was just a couple weirdos), that totally makes sense.

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Bawstahn123 Apr 2, 2026 +2

\>I thought they intentionally didn't build fancy buildings though, because that's idolatry or whatever and the focus should be on worship. Nobody is stopping them from building fancy buildings and wearing fancy outfits if they want to, I thought that was a deliberate choice they were making? [High Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_church) vs [Low Church](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_church), essentially

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AwayInternal326 Apr 2, 2026 +8

He converted in 2019 to win Ohio. He's from suburban Cincinnati, wrote Hillbilly Elegy to capture SE Ohio, and went Catholic to pick up the northern part of the state.

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selfdestructo591 Apr 2, 2026 +4

As one who converted to Catholicism after HATING Catholics with a passion, I was very surprised to find this out today. He calls himself Catholic after essentially defying the Pope over and over. Smh

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hivernageprofond Apr 2, 2026 +16

I'm surprised he hasn't been excommunicated. Dear Pope Leo, this dude is representing the catholic church right now...for America.

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rygem1 Apr 2, 2026 +3

Not really how excommunication works. The vast majority of excommunication happens the moment the you perform an action or accept a belief that church cannon deems extreme enough your soul is at risk. It’s lifted with simple confession (has to be genuine though). The formal “you are excommunicated” statement typically only happens if you do something like consecrate your own bishop or interfere directly in the church’s functions to cause schism. The church as a brand doesn’t want to be seen as being in the business of locking people out of heaven (the pope’s flag is literally “the keys” to heaven). Rather it would be a quiet convo between him and a priest where the priest suggests he needs to receive the sacrament of reconciliation as he is worried JD’s soul is at risk.

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hivernageprofond Apr 2, 2026 +3

I know how it works, and I'd say it falls into the later category. I'd say we're entering schism territory with his rhetoric. And I don't see him making a confession anytime soon. He's a very public representative for the catholic church who could influence other church members. Time and time again what he says (or the regime has said) has been admonished by the pope but he and the rest of these war mongers continue in their ways.

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wha2les Apr 2, 2026 +2

seems like the problem is this guy doesn't have a soul... so can't be put at risk.

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Significant_Cup_238 Apr 2, 2026 +213

At least it's a real picture, I would expect them to just AI slop a church on the cover.

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emotions1026 Apr 2, 2026 +91

Instead they just typed “church” into Google Images and went with it

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newsflashjackass Apr 2, 2026 +45

"Just whatever makes sense."

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bungpeice Apr 2, 2026 +8

They wanted a photo that evoked the aesthetic of his first book. Most authors have zero control of the cover. Hea still a POS cuck though

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Starfox-sf Apr 2, 2026 +15

What about the couch? Does it have a cover too?

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IAmInTheBasement Apr 2, 2026 +7

Washable.

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OhThatJimmy Apr 2, 2026 +60

… and features a Judas between the covers.

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ApathyMoose Apr 2, 2026 +17

and his sin between the couch cushions.

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +2

The Judas Couch

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SaltandLillacs Apr 2, 2026 +45

Convert Catholics are some of the craziest mofo out there.

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kansei7 Apr 2, 2026 +14

the most alarming thing in the comments here is how many people are like "born catholic, us real catholics don't care about this". Makes me want to scream, these are the people who should care the \*most\* about why grifters like Vance are such fans of their church. Hint: these idiots are 'put women back in the kitchen' types, worried about their extreme male privilege being just slightly eroded.

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atethealphabet Apr 2, 2026 +12

I'd say the same thing about any born again christian. They get to believing some weird shit.

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Solonohioperson Apr 2, 2026 +76

Is there anything about JD's life that shows he has any sort of sincere faith or is this just a grift?

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Gertrude_D Apr 2, 2026 +24

He has faith in his rise to power at any cost - does that count?

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RedditReader4031 Apr 2, 2026 +9

He’s a Frankenstein candidate, built by Peter Thiel for the express purpose of holding the presidency under the sway of the Dark Enlightenment. The separate factions of MAGAs/Evangelicals, the Project 2025/industrialists crowd and the tech bros who want to rule over profit seeking techno states once all governments are dissolved presently have overlapping interests. At some point, there will be a power struggle and one will emerge victorious. My money is on Theil and Palentir.

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FartyJizzums Apr 2, 2026 +14

Similarly to when Trump said his favorite book was the Bible. Yet he couldn't recite a single verse when asked about it. Their version of Jesus Christ totes a case of Coors Light, gettin' all the p**** on his way to the gun shop. It would be f****** hilarious, if only they weren't in control of the country.

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gringledoom Apr 2, 2026 +3

The other fun thing about "10 commandments" laws is that [different traditions break them up into 10 very differently](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Religious_traditions). I want to see someone bring a lawsuit on \*that\* basis and get them all fighting.

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Okonos Apr 2, 2026 +3

After teargassing protestors outside of the church by the white house and posing with a bible a reporter asked him: "Is that your bible?" "It's A bible."

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gringledoom Apr 2, 2026 +2

"My favorite book of the Bible is Corinthians II: The Corinthians Strike Back!"

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ry_guy1007 Apr 2, 2026 +4

He seems pretty faithful to the couches….

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SV_33 Apr 2, 2026 +2

He’s sincerely faithful to being a piece of shit

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ProudPainting6850 Apr 2, 2026 +21

These people are a f****** joke

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ttpharmd Apr 2, 2026 +18

He’s a terrible catholic so I’m surprised he’d dedicate a whole ass book to his conversion

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HeinousWalrus Apr 2, 2026 +8

It’s likely just AI slop anyways

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barrhavenite Apr 2, 2026 +15

"Appalachian Elegy" Bell Hooks, 2012 "Hillbilly Elegy" JD Vance, 2016 "Communion" Bell Hooks, 2002 "Communion" JD Vance, 2026

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LordAlvis Apr 2, 2026 +7

"Uncut Funk: A Contemplative Dialogue" Bell Hooks, 2018 "Uncut Funk: My Time in the Oval Office" JD Vance, 2026

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barrhavenite Apr 2, 2026 +10

"Salvation: Black people and love" Bell Hooks, 2005 "Salvation: Army, where my wife sent the couch" JD Vance, 2027

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RandyArgonianButler Apr 2, 2026 +16

I’d love to see him get excommunicated

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Drakan47 Apr 2, 2026 +15

This is the guy who went to the Vatican once and the pope immediately died

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Theonlytruehetero Apr 2, 2026 +9

They are all so stupid

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Norwalk1215 Apr 2, 2026 +6

There are so many iconic Catholic cathedrals, but he needed to be folksy.

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tenebre Apr 2, 2026 +6

"I found Christianity again just about the time I decided to run as a Republican candidate...."

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Unlucky_Ad_9776 Apr 2, 2026 +11

Catholic here. Doesn't matter if you are Catholic or not. If you are a total shithead you are probably going to burn in hell.Also for all the fellow Catholic who pray and harass people at abortion clinics. Stop it. Jesus said not to pray in public keep it private or in church. Stop making a public spectacle. God hates that shit. God doesn't want you forcing your beliefs on others. F*** off and leave people alone. Also anyone who supports Trump is not a true Catholic and shows no sighns of truly following any religious teachings. He literally has broken every commandments. He is a vile human being that thinks of nothing but himself.

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GiddyGabby Apr 2, 2026 +6

He’s such a hateful man. He uses his religion when it’s convenient and he conveniently forgets it 90% of the time which is evidenced in his hateful beliefs and rhetoric.

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Pepsiman34 Apr 2, 2026 +6

I wrote this book to grift my stupid fans.

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VenterVisuals Apr 2, 2026 +6

This dude is a chameleon, stands for nothing and will morph into whatever creature gets him more power

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sunkissedlatin Apr 2, 2026 +6

The complete lack of attention to detail here really speaks to how performative his entire political persona is. You'd think someone writing a whole memoir about converting to Catholicism would at least know what a Catholic church looks like. This feels like when politicians hold a Bible upside down for photo ops.

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WesIsaLeo Apr 2, 2026 +2

Is that your Bible, Mr. President? It’s a Bible. Would you tell us your favorite quote from the Bible, Mr. President? I’m sure your base would be keen to hear it, sir. Note: One of those things didn’t happen.

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Strange-Effort1305 Apr 2, 2026 +6

JD Vance shows how religion is only a cover for hatred and violence.

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MalevolentTapir Apr 2, 2026 +4

It makes sense, faith is just an aesthetic preference you can change out like a dust jacket for Mr. Bowman

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bensquirrel Apr 2, 2026 +6

Because his religion is a costume, like it is for many.

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themattboard Apr 2, 2026 +17

As false as any piety from JD Vance is (or any other belief he claims to hold), this cover image would have been picked by the publisher with little to no input from the author. Ask Jim Butcher about Harry Dresden's hat

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Moose-Rage Apr 2, 2026 +2

I'm upset Harry doesn't actually wear that hat.

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avantgardengnome Apr 2, 2026 +2

I’m a nonfiction editor. Several cover designs would have been put together by the publisher’s art team, but they definitely would have run them past the author for feedback and adjustments before finalizing and releasing any design publicly. I’d say this screwup is ultimately the publisher’s fault, but there’s simply no way that Vance, his agents, and probably several other people on his team didn’t see this design and sign off on it. I’d estimate that at *least* 15 smart professionals were part of this process at one point or another, and it’s frankly shocking that none of them said “and that’s a Catholic church, right?” (Or even “what church is that?”). Such an unforced error. I’ll be interested to see if they do anything about it.

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WesIsaLeo Apr 2, 2026 +2

This. There is no way a book w/ Vance’s name on it got past his scrutiny as far as the outside. For these horrible people, it’s all about image (not content.) He no doubt chose the most bucolic, yet most “manly man man church” image they showed him, with the usual due diligence in veracity. /s

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lonesoldier4789 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Especially when the "author" is the f****** vice president

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Acceptable-Bus-2017 Apr 2, 2026 +6

Their kids are going to grow up so confused

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aflyingsquanch Apr 2, 2026 +4

"What's daddy doing to that couch?!?"

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TransitionFC Apr 2, 2026 +3

Unlikely. Vance was an aetheist most of his life and is likely still one behind closed doors. His entire Christian schtick is a sham meant to appeal to their stupid base who would not elect him otherwise.

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swimtwobirds Apr 2, 2026 +4

He titled the book "Communion" which is the same as a wonderful book by Bell Hooks, and his book "Hillbilly Elegy" was criticized as a ripoff of the title "Appalachian Elegy", again by Bell Hooks. Fixated much, JD?

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transcendental-ape Apr 2, 2026 +5

JD works hard to be all things to all people. He’s a sociopath.

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WesIsaLeo Apr 2, 2026 +3

Can we convert him to unemployed? 😠

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Danimal198050 Apr 2, 2026 +3

Communion by Bell Hooks is an actual good book not written by a facist.

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Wentil Apr 2, 2026 +3

AI Generated text inside, random Google Images picture on the cover, Print-on-Demand grift.

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Funwithscissors2 Apr 2, 2026 +3

Whitley Striber already wrote Communion, but having the same book title as an alien abduction story is hilarious

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memphisjones Apr 2, 2026 +3

JD Vance is type of person Jesus Christ warned us about.

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Kikuchiy0 Apr 2, 2026 +3

All these books are is a money laundering scheme. Do you know one person who read Don Jr.'s book? No, but you see them in every bargain bin and on every goodwill shelf.

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Slight-Bluebird-8921 Apr 2, 2026 +3

ahahaha these transparent grifting s c u m can't even pretend to have jobs that keep them busy. they have time to write lame books to sell to rubes. just have to keep extracting money from yokels, don't they

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Icy-Clerk-7715 Apr 2, 2026 +3

Vance is a piece of shit

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Ihathreturd Apr 2, 2026 +3

"We're all Christians!" These pieces of shit, probably.

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Ouiser_Boudreaux_ Apr 2, 2026 +3

It’s also the second time he’s copied a bell hook’s title.

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mankowonameru Apr 2, 2026 +3

Killed the previous pope; hated by the current pope, can’t even get the church right.

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manbeardawg Apr 2, 2026 +8

As a Methodist, this heretic needs to keep my church’s name out of his f****** mouth. Our couches are not soft and have been in the parlor since the 1950’s; essentially, there’s nothing for him here.

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PM_THE_REAPER Apr 2, 2026 +2

The 'genius' never ends with these people.

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zenerat Apr 2, 2026 +2

Ghost writers really be slipping

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Fauxreigner_ Apr 2, 2026 +2

Catholic… Methodist… just whatever makes sense.

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Treadingresin Apr 2, 2026 +2

Is there nothing he can get right?

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TheFutureIsAFriend Apr 2, 2026 +2

Of all the trivial hair splitting bullshit to write a memoir about Next up: JD Vance "Why I spell ketchup with a c" Or better yet "Why My Real Name Isn't JD Vance"

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Choppergold Apr 2, 2026 +2

Hey you said there wasn’t going to be any fact checking

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Upper_Firefighter820 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Honestly he is only Catholic on paper- Christian nationalist is more like it.

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HolyToast666 Apr 2, 2026 +2

James Donald Bowman is a moron

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Hootinger Apr 2, 2026 +2

To be fair, both Methodist and Catholics are cool with each other and have had some ecumenical agreement on a lot of items.

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Standard-Constant653 Apr 2, 2026 +2

I'm sure both of us also agree we don't want him

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4point5billion45 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Grifter.

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Placidpong Apr 2, 2026 +2

It’s giving: tear gas a crowd to take a picture with a bible by a church. Maybe this time we put these creatures in cages.

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BladricksUncle Apr 2, 2026 +2

I really admire JD's pragmatic approach to selecting personal values that will help him build his brand. We need more style over substance these days. /s

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r21174 Apr 2, 2026 +2

“Couches” one man’s journey with growing up with the basement futon.

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professor_goodbrain Apr 2, 2026 +2

Almost like he’s completely unserious and pandering

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Born_Warthog_1418 Apr 2, 2026 +2

I bet there is a whole chapter on church couches in there

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Alleyprowler Apr 2, 2026 +2

I will breathe a sigh of relief on the day when electability has nothing to do with performative religion.

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Feinty Apr 2, 2026 +2

Just to fool the masses they back catholicism and practice nothing what he preaches

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thegoddamnbatman40 Apr 2, 2026 +2

I’ll take idiotic tone deaf schmuck for 1000 Alex, ah yes Who is JD Vance?

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bingeboy Apr 2, 2026 +2

No way this guy wrote a book. It’s either ai slop or ghost written. Either way it’s a waste of paper.

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19finmac66 Apr 2, 2026 +2

The Catholic Church will always do the right thing, as soon as they've exhausted all other options.

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purplenelly Apr 2, 2026 +2

How does he have time to write a book when he's currently working as VP?

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sexyinthesound Apr 2, 2026 +2

This is the SECOND book he has put out with a similar or same title to books by Bell Hooks. Can’t have a Black feminist’s seminal works up in the google results you know.

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Historical_Bend_2629 Apr 2, 2026 +2

The Pope ain’t gonna cover your garbage. You don’t speak for Catholics, Vance.

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Guacsalsaqueso Apr 2, 2026 +2

Mark my words, once he’s gone (dead or out of office), MAGA is “done,” but “America First,” willl be the new iteration. America First is no foreign wars, but funding Israel and all of the other bad guys $$ and weapons without boots on the ground though. America First is no what Trump says but whatever is best for Christian Nationalists. Lex by Vance, Miller, Tucker Carlson (I think he’s going to run of Vance is not an option), and the like. Racists don’t want wars because their relatives may die and their gas goes up in price. They are fine with everything else.

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wasabi_dream Apr 2, 2026 +2

It's clown cars all the way down

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bobcat116 Apr 2, 2026 +2

And if enough Christians stop falling for charlatans then maybe there will be change.

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Miss_Behavior Apr 2, 2026 +2

He stole another title from belle hooks. Appalachian Elegy, published in 2012. Hillbilly Elegy, published in 2016. Communion: The Female Search for Love, published in 2002. Communion: Finding My Way Back to Faith, published in 2026. It’s bizarre. But then so is he.

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MaxSchreckArt616 Apr 2, 2026 +2

Well yeah, duh, there wasn't supposed to be any fact checking.

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TheSilentC Apr 2, 2026 +2

Christian nationalism is the American Taliban

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MiyamotoKnows Apr 2, 2026 +2

“Don’t tell me what you believe. Show me how you treat other people and I’ll tell you what you believe.” - James Talarico

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PrideofPicktown Apr 2, 2026 +2

This dude thought Middletown, Ohio was in Appalachia and mistook the crack between couch cushions as a v*****; are we really surprised he a f****** moron?

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Ok-Advertising4028 Apr 2, 2026 +2

I would honestly be surprised if anyone bought this book

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AgitatedEdge213 Apr 2, 2026 +2

FYI- This dudes a massive idiot.

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Weird_Yam6398 Apr 3, 2026 +2

Attention to detail isn’t really their thing.

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Windmill-inn Apr 3, 2026 +2

The father, the son, and the holy ghostwriter

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NotThatHandsomePete Apr 2, 2026 +4

Does the church hide furniture abuse as well?

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ShufflingToGlory Apr 2, 2026

White American Christianity is just so damn unserious. Strip mall-ass country.

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recentgrooves Apr 2, 2026 +1

Thanks AI

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Rupaulsdragrace420 Apr 2, 2026 +1

I'm sure it's just a means to an ends so his campaign funds and be funneled into his own pockets. He doesn't care about the cover he cares about cashing in and an opportunity for easy fraud.

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kyotyspisak Apr 2, 2026 +1

The klan is really going to hate this news if they could read

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COMM_NTARIAT Apr 2, 2026 +1

The Catholic brand is so cooked that Pope Leo will encourage their most prominent member to continue this shameless opportunism.

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theavatare Apr 2, 2026 +1

Close enough! In book form

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FiscalCliffClavin Apr 2, 2026 +1

What kind of donuts are those?okthatsgreat.

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shadowdra126 Apr 2, 2026 +1

I doubt anyone is gonna wanna read this one.

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iwannasee_ Apr 2, 2026 +1

I dunno if even the pope considers JD a true believer! I don’t think if JD also truly believes in the teachings of Christ.

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Old-Impress4927 Apr 2, 2026 +1

Of course it does

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togetherwem0m0 Apr 2, 2026 +1

if anyone ever deserved a papal excommunication its this guy.

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hombreguido Apr 2, 2026 +1

A man who hates women so much he has abolished periods.

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ArizonaRon98 Apr 2, 2026 +1

Being a f****** idiot is a fulltime job, baby.

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SuperPatriot69 Apr 2, 2026 +1

Peter Thiel must have missed that edit

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BlueDragon101 Apr 2, 2026 +1

I’m not religious, but my god I hope he gets excommunicated because that would be funny as f***.

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that_yinzer Apr 2, 2026 +1

Maybe the CIA will give him the same treatment as our last Catholic president

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icbint Apr 2, 2026 +1

Dumbassery is on brand for him

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Stunning_Bed23 Apr 2, 2026 +1

Of course.

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Significant-Self5907 Apr 2, 2026 +1

These people are stupid!!

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Matthmaroo Apr 2, 2026 +1

He doesn’t even talk like Catholics talk about religion. He’s just evangelical

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Intrepid_Switch3145 Apr 2, 2026 +1

leaving a wide-open angle of attack. he's trolling.

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Sea-Vegetable-6252 Apr 2, 2026 +1

Because they’re all f****** stupid

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mormonatheist21 Apr 2, 2026 +1

american “catholic converts” are, without exception, just evangelicals.

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