>A federal judge is raising concerns about whether Donald Trump's attempt to sue the IRS for $10 billion can proceed, signaling she could throw out the case because the president oversees the government entities he is suing.
>Judge Kathleen Williams raised the issue in an order on Friday denying a request to delay the case amid possible settlement talks.
>She noted that Trump and the defendants -- the Treasury Department and IRS -- may not be "sufficiently adverse" to one another for the case to proceed.
A president should not be allowed to sue any part of the government that he runs. Case should be thrown out.
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AssassinInValhalla1 day ago
+2643
This is the part I don't get. Dude acts like he's unfairly treated for dealing with the same shit 1000s of us deal with every tax period. Every MAGA needs to be ashamed of themselves but they're too stupid to understand that.
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woodst0ck151 day ago
+819
It’s easy if you understand that he’s a narcissist. He’s the victim and everyone else is taking advantage of him cause he’s sooooooo nice and not mean at all, some might say he’s the nicest.
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EvelynNyte1 day ago
+155
Everyone says he's the nicest. Every two weeks, they come to him with tears in their eyes to tell him such.
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ZackRaynor1 day ago
+40
“Narcissist? No, nicestist.”
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Streamjumper1 day ago
+11
Mr. Nicestist. That's what the big strong men with tears in their eyes call him.
Get it right, piggy.
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takeda641 day ago
+41
He is, but it's not it.
This is his grifter side, he wants to see how much he can steal from us and he is doing it in many different ways (contracts for his family, tariffs, market manipulation, creating own Autocracy Inc. and pumping money there, suing own departments and many many more), this is just one of them.
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redditobserverone1 day ago
+25
Whatever cavity he is trying to fill, apparently no amount of money can ever satisfy it. I think he has pilfered $9 billion just this year alone. For what? Nothing can fix this dude.
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NotAPhaseMoo1 day ago
+14
This is a core trait of narcissim, their self-worth is moment to moment and completely externalized. That is why he is so easy to manipulate.
Trump grew up in money and was given his father's fortune but then lost it all, so a large chunk of his self-worth is tied to making money no matter the means. This is likely a manifestation of his child-self seeking approval from his father, the one that made him into the monster he is today.
EDIT: To be clear, I don't mean he "lost it all" like he was destitute but his net worth was almost certainly negative due to the insane amounts of leverage he had on loans against his real estate business.
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AudibleNod1 day ago
+160
How can the strongest, smartest, handsomest, most charismatic president in US history be a victim? Being a victim shouldn't be something a 6D chess grand master is capable of being.
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the_last_0ne1 day ago
+127
Thats fascism for you! Simultaneously the strongest, smartest, best person ever, but also constantly under attack from lesser people, who arent a big deal. Except they are! They lie and cheat and they'll take over if you don't donate your life savings to the ~~lawyers fees~~ cause!"
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Reasonable-Turn-59401 day ago
+59
It's crazy how much the Billionaire President of the United States cries about being the biggest victim on the planet
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Tall_poppee1 day ago
+6
Yeah what's his damages lol? He got elected president. This hardly harmed him.
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JestersDead771 day ago
+3
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he's mad that people found out he's not quite as rich as he says he is. Literally the only thing he cares about.
Well, that, and protecting his pedophile buddies and business partners.
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daGroundhog1 day ago
+15
They say he's the nicest with tears in their eyes
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Aggravating-Bus-92031 day ago
+17
“Nicest” has a more appropriate anagram. And by that standard he is also a “dope” guy.
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the_silent_redditor1 day ago
+16
They say to me, “Sir..” with tears in their eyes - and these are big tall strong men, American man, some of them strong military men who fought in illegal wars under Hussein Obama, terrible, illegal, and saw terrible illegal things, awful things, which, by the way, I ended, eight wars I ended they didn’t think it could be done but it cools and I did it, eight of them in a row, and they don’t give me the Nobel prize, and these men didn’t cry then at these awful terrible wars but now they say to me, and they’re crying and it’s beautiful big, American tears - and they say, “Sir, we haven’t seen a president as nice as you.” And I don’t know about you but, I’d agree with them on that one. Nobody loves or has done more for the American people in the history of this country. “Sir”, they say, “You really are the nicest.” And I don’t know but that’s what people are telling me.
*MAGA: omg such a real man so brave so intelligent that’s my guy let’s gooooo Brandon I’m so tired of winning!!*
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firestepper1 day ago
+2
Other people are horrible to him. Just horrible nasty people
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Lastcaressmedown1381 day ago
+2
Billionaires actually believe people leech off them not the other way around
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FoxRaptix1 day ago
+128
It's worse than that. His taxes were leaked *while* he was in office. So it was his own administration that had the leak happen under their watch. Trump is literally suing the government for his own administrations incompetence
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Recent-Result28521 day ago
+67
While he was promising he wanted them released but couldn't because of eternal audits.
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LonePaladin1 day ago
+19
Non-existent audits
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Streamjumper1 day ago
+6
That were totally unfair persecution of him, which would be instantly apparent if he COULD release them, but he can't because they're investigating him.
And there's millions of morons who eat this shit up and ask for more.
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spiphy1 day ago
+42
Also, the statute of limitations is passed for him to sue. Even if it wasn't the damages are capped by law at $1,000 per document leaked. They are taking the novel and bad reading of the law to pretend it's $1,000 per view.
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curtisas1 day ago
+14
_technically_ the $1000 is the minimum per [26 U.S. Code § 7431 (c)(1)(a&b)](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/7431)
>(c)Damages
In any action brought under subsection (a), upon a finding of liability on the part of the defendant, the defendant shall be liable to the plaintiff in an amount equal to the sum of—
>(1)the greater of—
>(A)$1,000 for each act of unauthorized inspection or disclosure of a return or return information with respect to which such defendant is found liable, or
>(B)the sum of—
>(i)the actual damages sustained by the plaintiff as a result of such unauthorized inspection or disclosure, plus
>(ii)in the case of a willful inspection or disclosure or an inspection or disclosure which is the result of gross negligence, punitive damages, plus
>(2)the costs of the action, plus
>(3)in the case of a plaintiff which is described in section 7430(c)(4)(A)(ii), reasonable attorneys fees, except that if the defendant is the United States, reasonable attorneys fees may be awarded only if the plaintiff is the prevailing party (as determined under section 7430(c)(4)).
Now this also states the statute of limitations is 2 years _of the date of discovery by the plaintiff_ which is going to be hard to argue wasn't immediate.
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GullibleTowel12421 day ago
+3
So he is worth approximately $6 billion but suing for $10 billion. So they are going to argue he was damaged more than he has built in his lifetime by the release of his tax forms? 🤪
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Shoot_from_the_Quip1 day ago
+19
Along with over 7,000 other high wealth people.
So, are they also each entitled $10 Billion Dollars?
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techleopard1 day ago
+30
The audacity of asking for $10 billion dollars as if he was even remotely harmed is sheer comedy, especially in the wake of many other Republican MAGA politicians ensuring that there are very tight legal limits to what you can sue for even when you are horrifically harmed (or outright killed).
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Diestormlie1 day ago
+77
He's suing the IRS for 10 Billion Dollars so he can take 10 Billion Dollars from the IRS and put it into his own bank account.
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RoboFeanor1 day ago
+15
Nah, he is suing them for 10 Billion so that he can order the treasury & IRS to settle out of court for 2-5 B, because this wouldn't get past any judge outside of a certain district in Florida
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julius_sphincter1 day ago
+6
>because this wouldn't get past any judge outside of a certain district in Florida
While true, that isn't why he's settling. He's settling because he thinks its an infinite money glitch he's just "discovered". Plus a full lawsuit would mean discovery and he'd have to disclose personal info which would pull the curtain back on his lie of seeming successful
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77NorthCambridge1 day ago
+32
Definition of a conflict of interest. If he can't be sued while President than he can't sue the government he leads while President.
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ReachParticular54091 day ago
+22
The secret is to be constantly outraged about something until everyone gets so exhausted dealing with it they just give in
He learned this technique as a baby and it has served him magnificently him his entire life
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Telandria1 day ago
+35
MAGAs are incapable of both shame and critical thinking. Just watch any video where they get interviewed by someone capable of basic logic.
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TheCheshireCody22 hr ago
+2
Jordan Klepper is brilliant at this. Like, if they were even remotely self-aware they'd figure out his sarcasm.
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captainnowalk1 day ago
+7
> Dude acts like he's unfairly treated for dealing with the same shit 1000s of us deal with every tax period.
To be quite fair, a f*** ton of his supporters do this, too. Every time the discussion on taxes comes up, there’s gotta be that one group of people that acts like the IRS is out to get them, *personally*. And it has nothing to do with them claiming a homestead exemption on the house they don’t live in, or deducting for home office when it’s really their bedroom, or “vehicle usage” for a “work trip” that definitely wasn’t their family vacation, they’re really going to Disney World for their job as an insurance adjuster or whatever.
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Givemeallthecabbages1 day ago
+5
Also MAGA have no shame. They don't even have the glimmer of self awareness needed to experience it.
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snarkycrumpet1 day ago
+6
I just paid more tax than him for 2025, I know it.
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West-Application-3751 day ago
+3
Same, and my income was below poverty line.
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Lumbergh71 day ago
+3
He’s a narcissistic little whiny grifting b****, that’s why
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Franks2000inchTV1 day ago
+3
We're past shame. It's time to bring back the tar and feathers.
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pushaper1 day ago
+3
If the case is not thrown out do we get to see his tax filings?
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kvothe56881 day ago
+2
and he definitely evaded tax unlike average American
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Rodfjell22 hr ago
+2
Trump would cry his way into literal godhood. He has a victim complex. "Woe is me, I'm god. People freely sacrifice their newborns to me, but I want more dead babies! It's not worth it if I can't force people against their will!"
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ImpulseAfterthought1 day ago
+462
Presidents arguing for unitary executive theory: "The Constitution says that the executive authority resides with the President. Case closed."
Judge: "OK, so the President can't sue an executive agency, as he'll be suing himself."
President: "Not like that!"
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dryheat1221 day ago
+33
He shouldn't be allowed to sue the government while in office, period.
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techleopard1 day ago
+23
The American government can't sue him or hold him legally accountable for anything.
One-sided degrees of justice should not exist, period.
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Commercial_Intern5411 day ago
+84
Absolutely thrown out. He’s a public servant doing a temp job. He can sue after he’s out of ofc., if he wants & not during.
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NSAseesU1 day ago
+86
Also, the federal government should stop paying for trumps golfing. He added billions to his net worth since 2015 and should be able to pay to golf outbox his own pockets instead of the taxpayers.
Isn't it embarrassing that he is a billionaire and can't pay to golf on his own and needs government welfare to golf?
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bizarre_coincidence1 day ago
+25
They don't pay for the golfing, I don't think? Rather, they pay for the secret service and other security measures that he needs because he is a high value target. If he wasn't then charging them exorbitant rates to stay at his properties, that might be reasonable.
All the other presidents golfed at Camp David. Why Trump has to be different.....
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jert31 day ago
+66
Trump vastly over charges rates for his trips to his own resorts which the government of course must pay. It's just one of his hundreds of grifts. Trump has fleeced tax payers for billions of dollars by abusing the powers of his presidency.
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NSAseesU1 day ago
+20
Which trump could pay out of his own pockets. A billionaire that needs government welfare.
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bros4021 day ago
+15
> They don't pay for the golfing, I don't think? Rather, they pay for the secret service and other security measures that he needs because he is a high value target. If he wasn't then charging them exorbitant rates to stay at his properties, that might be reasonable.
imo the Secret Service shouldn't be allowed to install such valuable shit at a private business
if this was an actual house, or even a f****** mansion - sure
But this is his business. He is living at his country club
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77NorthCambridge1 day ago
+27
That he agreed with the City of Pslm Beach *couldn't* be used as a residence. On top of everything else, he is voting illegally in Florida...by mail.
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Streamjumper1 day ago
+3
Rules for thee!
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Rynvael1 day ago
+8
A true American would charge them $1
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NoodledLily1 day ago
+6
There's a reason obama golfed on military bases. Turns out it's a LOT cheaper and way harder to get shot at. odd!
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Morgannin091 day ago
+6
The government doesn't pay for the president's food or leisure. He doesn't pay for golfing because he owns the courses, but he charges the Secret Service a premium for renting rooms at his clubs in order to protect him. So he's not just sending the government the bill, he's profiting from it himself.
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TheCheshireCody22 hr ago
+2
I love that he's so generous he donates his salary, but the resorts and hotels he owns charge the Secret Service full price for renting rooms to the agents the government requires he have around him.
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TheHomersapien1 day ago
+45
I've yet to see someone ask, let alone explain, why a person can claim to be protected by the same laws they are immune from. I would argue he has no standing to sue.
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Careful-Swimmer38401 day ago
+13
Because he has shit for brains and spews shit out of his mouth so the MAGA flies can eat it up and regurgitate the same shit.
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generated_user-name1 day ago
+14
I had to show my tax returns to get a f****** discounted gym membership lmao. He gets paid by the god damned government and works FOR US. He should be giving us an entirely vetted life story from birth if we ask for it. And I think every high ranking government official should be thoroughly investigated if it’s warranted
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techleopard1 day ago
+10
You can't even be a pencil pusher at the lowest rungs of the government without having somebody crawl up your butt looking for every little unpaid library fine or speeding ticket you've ever gotten, and then you need umpteen character witnesses who can confirm that yes, you did indeed live at 1313 Mockingbird Lane from precisely September 1964 to May 1966.
But a rich dude can get the nuclear codes and install a bunch of barely adult hacks into the highest levels of government and doesn't even need to release very relevant financial and investment information.
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Streamjumper1 day ago
+4
Bruh, if someone thanks me for helping them work their way through a confusing problem by bringing me a plate of freshly baked cookies I need to document it then put the plate in the break room to share with everyone at my office. This m*********** is allowed to be given a f****** flying palace he can then pass to himself after the years it takes to rebuild it on our dime.
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LoveYouNotYou1 day ago
+9
If he would like to sue the government, then do so as a regular citizen, which of course means he can also be arrested for his crimes
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oaken0071 day ago
+7
What makes me mad is there are laws in place. But because we have a "business man" as a President, and not a f****** lawyer like all other presidents have been, we have a goddamned imbecile who pushes the line, time and time again. And I'm f****** sick of it. There are laws, there are checks and balances. For it to even get to a judge is f****** ridiculous. I'm so f****** tired, boss.
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CletusMcWafflebees1 day ago
+5
Or how about if you are on a position of immunity from suites that immunity should go away the moment you file any lawsuit yourself.
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Rynvael1 day ago
+7
Possible settlement???
So the government entity Trump oversees is settling and going to pay him money? Seems a bit fishy
7
Niceromancer1 day ago
+4
At least put on hold till hes no longer potus.
But yes should be thrown out.
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FredFredrickson1 day ago
+2
It doesn't even make sense. Like, what harm has come to him from this? The people stupidly elected him again, rewarding him for his bad behavior, and he is using his position to enrich himself in ways no former president would've dared.
If anything, it helped him.
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marinuss1 day ago
+5
Even if there was harm, one the employee of the IRS who did it went to prison, two the $10 billion number is insane. I think the highest settled amount ever against the federal government is like almost $3 billion? And that was like Native Americans suing to get reservation land back and penalties for taking it or something. One person's tax records being leaked is worth 3x that in settlement?
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Hoodamush1 day ago
+2
But we live in the world of opposites so you never know.
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zerocoolforschool1 day ago
+2
It’s like… OMG someone with a brain in government finally stepped forward and said this was fucked up on epic levels?
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Lamprophonia1 day ago
+2
Why even f****** ASK, WHY NOT JUST THROW THE CASE OUT, this is so frustrating
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MARPJ1 day ago
+2
But then how will he get another pay out if people stop him from doing blatantly illegal stuff?
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SoftlySpokenPromises1 day ago
+2
Considering he is at the top of the chain of command any lawsuits happening should pay directly from his estate.
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deepasleep1 day ago
+2
It’s been my understanding for a long time that you can only sue the federal government in very limited circumstances and not for punitive damages…Trump’s bullshit lawsuit doesn’t align with anything
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ZipZoomBingPOW1 day ago
+2
Just another attempt to siphon more money out of the American people. Smh
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AudibleNod1 day ago
+1158
>"One such employee of the executive branch, the Attorney General, has a statutory obligation to defend the IRS when it is hailed into court, but then is ostensibly required by executive mandate to adhere to the President's opinion on a matter of law in such a case. This raises questions over whether the Parties here are truly antagonistic to each other," Williams noted.
I guess the legal strategy of "just gimme" isn't going to work here. If this somehow passes, can anyone and everyone expect a $10,000,000,000.00 payout for similar breaches of trust?
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spirallix1 day ago
+153
You guys should make him speak how he made wealth in last quarter and if he’s rezurning it as it’s illegal.
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Ms74k_ten_c1 day ago
+18
Not everyone, though, right? Any other Tom, D*** and Harry will be in for a fight of lifetime against federal lawyers.
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WrathOfMogg1 day ago
+679
Basically if anyone’s tax information is worth $10 billion then that person’s wealth shouldn’t exist at all.
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reddititty691 day ago
+404
Having his taxes released does material harm because it shows that he has committed tax fraud at federal and state levels.
404
ENaC21 day ago
+165
Counterpoint: nothing happened in response to that revelation and he got to be president again.
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Domeil1 day ago
+114
No, something absolutely happened. He was convicted of 30 financial felonies by a jury of his peers, and a cowardly judge in New York declined to sentence him to a single day in prison because he didn't want to have to answer the "what next" question when Trump inevitably would refuse to go willingly.
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ENaC21 day ago
+66
That was something else. You’re talking about the falsification of business records case, that would be an example of another time he should’ve faced consequences and got away with it.
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johnnybiggles1 day ago
+18
Throw it in the pile.
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bros4021 day ago
+39
That judge should've sentenced him to prison with the sentence suspended until after his presidency. Had him report to prison at 3 PM on January 20th, 2029 (3 PM giving him enough time to be dragged out of the Oval Office and forced on a plane by the Secret Service)
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jazzhandler1 day ago
+9
I agree with you that it should have played out that way. And I also feel certain that, seeing how things have played out so far, that judge would absolutely be in jail by now.
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bros4021 day ago
+12
> that judge would absolutely be in jail by now
honestly I bet the judge was worried about a Trump fanatic acting on the threats to him/his family if he sentenced him
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inosinateVR1 day ago
+8
“Alright Mister President, I hereby sentence you to go to JAIL just as soon as your presidency is over. Anyway, have fun being the president and knowing that I’m the reason you’re going to jail. You only have four years as the most powerful man in the country/world to find a way to absolutely f*** my life over.”
Don’t get me wrong, I agree it should have happened, but probably not realistic to hope for a judge to be willing to put themselves into that situation. It also highly incentivizes him to try and stay in power after those 4 years
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zeCrazyEye1 day ago
+6
He wasn't even sentenced to even a single day of jail, the judge gave him an unconditional discharge. He received no punishment at all.
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vercertorix1 day ago
+5
The answer to “what’s next”is why we have procedures. We know that people with badges are supposed to show up and drag him to prison. Happens all the time. The illusion is that the situation is any different.
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reddititty691 day ago
+14
Well, right. I’m just pointing out that to claim the kind of damages hrs after he’d have to show some actual harm, right? I’d love to the AG stand up in court and say “your honor, my client *could have faced a 20 year prison term and a few million in fines!”
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impablomations1 day ago
+7
10 Billion is also how much he said he's going to sue the BBC for. It's probably just his latest favourite word/phrase that he repeats thinking the huge figure will make his opponents crumble, no matter how ridiculous he sounds.
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Skullcrimp1 day ago
+5
Dr. Evil's "one MILLION dollars!" adjusted for inflation.
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SAugsburger1 day ago
+16
Since Trump's net worth increased dramatically since that release of his tax records I am hard pressed to believe he could easily prove any damages nevermind anything close to what he is asking.
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Chiron171 day ago
+254
Even contemplating trying to sure the IRS for $10b would be the biggest scandal of any other Presidency. Actually doing it would have almost certainly led to impeachment.
This is so far down Trump's list of scandals that I hadn't even heard of it until now and I'm not even surprised by it.
I just look forward to the day the next Democratic President wears the wrong coloured suit again.
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Siegfoult1 day ago
+66
The corruption is really just *so insane* and the fact that it just keeps going on is *even more insane*. Something needs to change so that we have some actual checks and balances.
66
JimboTCB1 day ago
+21
Gonna be fun in a couple more years time watching what I assume will be the incoming Democrat presidency do absolutely nothing to address all the shit that has happened over Trump's term in the name of "national unity" or some bullshit. The entire system needs a top to bottom reform, and they're probably going to have to purge pretty much the entire civil service to get rid of all the Trump loyalist appointees and replace them with actual qualified people. Even then the damage is already done and the US's position on the international stage has probably been permanently and irredeemably tarnished, as everyone knows that the "checks and balances" are meaningless and they're at best four years away from electing another bunch of lunatics and burning everything to the ground again.
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DragPullCheese1 day ago
+43
The fact that they are agreeing on a "settlement" is so insane lol. Dude is just stealing money for his pocket - and no one, including me, even cares.
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Chiron171 day ago
+26
Apparently there was an assassination attempt yesterday (his fourth?) and I don't even care about that any more. It's cooked, as the kids might say
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Lincolns_Revenge1 day ago
+17
You don't care? I think I heard it's like 40 bucks per taxpayer on average, but it's more about the principle of it. That's enough to make me angry.
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srone1 day ago
+67
Just to put this in context...
If you make $100,000 a year, you would need to work for...
100,000 YEARS to make that. And Trump is planning to just take it from the American people.
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GiddyGabby1 day ago
+153
As a non-expert on the matter: It shouldn’t.
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SweetSexiestJesus1 day ago
+118
I too would like to hear this
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johnnycyberpunk1 day ago
+29
His staunch supporters all cheer that it’s that much money because he’s just going to donate it.
So he’s said.
So… shouldn’t we all get a nice hefty deduction on our taxes next year since that’s our money he’s donating?
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dragonblade_941 day ago
+10
- Actively cuts funding for any and all social/public support vectors.
- Sues the government for $10 Billion so he can (checks notes).... donate that money.... to the government.
Win? /s
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Rooooben20 hr ago
+2
He’s going to donate it to the Trump library aka his piggybank
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lavacadotoast1 day ago
+76
"This case is extraordinary because the President controls both sides of the litigation, which raises the prospect of collusive litigation tactics," the amicus filing said. "To treat this case like business as usual would threaten the integrity of the justice system and the important taxpayer and privacy protections at the heart of this case."
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Weightmonster1 day ago
+12
Yeah. He would just direct the IRS to settle and give him the money.
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epidemicsaints1 day ago
+31
This whole thing is a Dr. Evil plot. Appoint loyalists, make it so the president in office can't be sued or charged but the president can sue the government - which is then being "defended" by people he appointed - so the government settles with him and just gives him money.
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DeadBloatedGoat1 day ago
+28
The man needs to go. He's just a f****** criminal. Congress won't stop him. The Supremes and other courts will not stop him. He and his band of thieves need to be expelled and banned from any current or future public or private enterprise. But that's just my opinion. Apparently a lot of people see it otherwise.
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leaonas1 day ago
+38
What harm has it brought him? His homies don’t give a f*** he doesn’t pay taxes.
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freedfg1 day ago
+16
"I want 10 billion more dollars"
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IvetRockbottom1 day ago
+15
Justification: is a grift to steal from We the People, that's why.
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SnarkyPuppy-04171 day ago
+15
The man was found guilty of tax fraud is suing the IRS.
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missonellieman1 day ago
+13
It seems obvious that he will make the DOJ settle for some insane amount that's less than $10B.
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russellc61 day ago
+8
Look into it... He only settles of TACO's because that is the grift
He is NOT opening his bank accounts or Medical records to PROVE he was harmed.
Discovery would uncover everything he hides.
Only reason this one goes as far as it has is the "defendant" also answers to him... The judge is the only guardrail
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wwhsd1 day ago
+3
And then he will tout how his “Art of the Deal” skills saved the American tax payer billions and that they should be grateful.
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sovereign_MD1 day ago
+14
Hasn’t he already leveraged his position as president to personally enrich him by filing other frivolous lawsuits?
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wwhsd1 day ago
+8
Yes, but in those other frivolous lawsuits, he at least at to convince another party to agree to settle. In this case he’s both the plaintiff and the defendant.
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iliveincanadaeh1 day ago
+25
So a president can sue something he runs.
This is obliviously wrong. Like silly, at best. If this was a TV show, id say it was farfetched and dumb.
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BallisticHabit1 day ago
+7
I hate this timeline so very much.
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Weightmonster1 day ago
+10
This must be the most brazen cash grab in American history.
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HobbesNJ1 day ago
+22
Glad to see there is still somebody willing to stand in the way of egregious and blatant corruption.
It's basically embezzlement when you control the people who will award you settlements.
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Medical_Arugula33151 day ago
+6
Hard to be a shittier or more hypocritical American than a Republican these days.
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Hollie_Maea1 day ago
+15
This lawsuit, which is transparently a ruse to have the US government give money to Donald Trump disguised as a “settlement”, is the most corrupt thing a US President has ever done and he should be jailed just for trying it.
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HoldenMcNeil4201 day ago
+24
He got his wittle feelings hurt
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HardcoreKaraoke1 day ago
+7
It's wild that we're so fucked and our country is so corrupt that the President taking $10 billion from the IRS is even an option. And as much as I'd love to believe a judge could shut this down I have a feeling it'll happen, just like most things Trump does that shouldn't happen.
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vercertorix1 day ago
+7
Because the **truth** about his finances made him look bad. Just like any of the truth about him makes him look bad, but this was supposed to be protected data. Still not worth $10B. You know how people at a trial sometimes get time served? Well maybe the judge should cite Trump’s golf tab and point out the federal government has already spent more on him than he should reasonably expect.
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minkasp651 day ago
+7
What president sues one of his own departments???
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monodescarado1 day ago
+4
One that wants billions of taxpayer money for himself.
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Diz71 day ago
+2
The one trying to embezzle money.
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thedarkhalf471 day ago
+6
“I like money” Trump probably
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Prof_Eucalyptus1 day ago
+6
This is his way of saying "not only i shouldn't pay taxes, taxes should compensate me for existing"
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Kyonikos1 day ago
+5
The judges are the last standing branch of the government.
(The justices, not so much.)
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TenderTyrant1 day ago
+7
Republicans- No honesty. No shame. No dignity. No bravery. No integrity.
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Bmkrocky1 day ago
+4
there wouldn't have been any leaked taxes if he just released them like other presidents have done... if you have nothing to hide
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Justaregard1 day ago
+4
I can explain. He said he wants to give it to charity. So he gets a 10 billion dollar write off using taxpayer money against all of his illegal profits from grifting the system.
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DrTreeMan1 day ago
+5
These bs lawsuits are costing us money by clogging our courts and requiring US Attorneys to spend time on this. We're probably also paying for Trump's lawyers.
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TintedApostle1 day ago
+4
What actual harm was done in the leak? Trump got re-elected. Trump is still able to use the office for generating illegal income on the scale of billions. His children are still leveraging the power of the office to make billions.
What was the actual damage?
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Brave_Nerve_68711 day ago
+3
Because his feefeels were hurt
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SeaTurtleLionBird1 day ago
+3
Because Trump owes Putin
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Will_Explode81 day ago
+4
How has this not been thrown out yet
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westergames811 day ago
+4
I'm sure him donating his presidential paycheck _totally_ makes for it. /s
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Global-Cartoonist6221 day ago
+3
The judge is absolutely right to question how you can have a genuine legal dispute when the guy suing is literally the boss of the people being sued.
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TheKootz1 day ago
+3
This shit always boggles my mind. Jimmy Carter literally gave up his family's peanut farm to avoid a conflict of interest. This POS became a billionaire in office, and the right doesnt seem to mind.
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zackmedude1 day ago
+2
MAGA love it when Billionaires, billionaire at their own expense... lol
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boogermike1 day ago
+9
Booger Mike's expert legal opinion is that this suit is a grift.
(Please note that I am not sanctioned by the bar)
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TaifmuRed1 day ago
+3
Biggest corruption attempt by trump so far and yet Maga is still turning a blind eye towards it
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Naked_in_Maine1 day ago
+3
I think each and every one of us should sue him for $10B!
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OreoMoo1 day ago
+3
DOJ Argument: "How else can the president make a quick 10 billion dollars from the government? Seriously, do you guys have any other ideas? We're open to suggestions."
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Outrageous-Tell12181 day ago
+3
Donald: "I am in charge of the IRS, so they owe me $10 billion"
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NewTimeTraveler11 day ago
+3
Why do people with lots of money, need more money?
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beefytrout1 day ago
+2
in this case, Trump owes a lot of people a lot of money
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dcoats691 day ago
+3
Democrats should really try to push through a law that you can't sue a department you are in charge of.
Add in a provision that you can file the suitz but it won't move forward until you are out of power.
Something about the statute of limitations getting paused as soon as you file. And the department can't settle until you are out of office too.
Maybe add a little bit of buffer so you can't have your loyalist settle the second the new president swears in before they fire the cronies
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Outside-Affect-47221 day ago
+3
Another example of the most corrupt administration in history...thank you Judge Williams for seeking justification of such an outrageous lawsuit.
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Sooowasthinking1 day ago
+3
When is having all the money enough for these horrible people that only hoard and accumulate massive and obscene amounts of money and material possessions going to be enough?
These are worthless human beings that have decided helping society may be seen as charitable and kindness is seen as weakness.10 billion is such an abstract number i can’t wrap my mind around it.
Anyone that supports this person is delusional.We should all hold up the orange man as an example of why millionaires and up should never be elected to public office. Their love of money overshadows any thought of helping others.
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themanagement1231 day ago
+3
We need a judge to order Trump/DOJ to justify why the President should proceed being the President if you ask me……
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Enshakushanna1 day ago
+5
nah, make it go to court and to a jury, all the defense has to do is play the 1000's of clips of him promising to release his taxes
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funnynut1 day ago
+5
So if it goes through, then do we have the right to sue as well, since Musk's "techies" got access to our IRS info without having the proper authentication. Not only that it's a high possibility that that info has since been shared without our permission to 3rd parties outside the government.
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dunnkw1 day ago
+6
Because everyone found out he was a fraud after they released his tax returns causing irreparable damage to his reputation.
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Corporate-Scum1 day ago
+4
He’s robbing us blind. His children are stealing from us too. This man’s supporters sold out our country!!!
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MichaelFusion441 day ago
+2
This may be the griftiest of grifting from the grifter.
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Rogaar1 day ago
+2
Why is every lawsuit $10 billion?
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crookdmouth1 day ago
+2
There is no justification. Why is there even a question?
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Prestigious_Oil57941 day ago
+2
Trump should be fined for frivolous lawsuits.
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BoleroMuyPicante1 day ago
+2
Your honor, the legal argument is both simple and compelling: Give me money. Money me. Money now. Me a money needing a lot now.
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Odd-Hovercraft41401 day ago
+2
"If I decide to run for office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely. And I would love to do that."
"I'm under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."
Achievable election promises really should be verbal contracts...
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OlderThanMyParents1 day ago
+2
"Um... because I want the money? Is that a good enough reason? Oh- plus I had my feelings hurt. That's pain and suffering, right?"
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Responsible-Math-3921 day ago
+2
Do you think his lawyers just sit around getting drunk and coming up with ways to stay on the payroll? It's one crazy thing after another from them. They know they can sell any nutty idea to him.
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CurlOfTheBurl111 day ago
+2
It shouldn't. Why should the president be able to personally sue any part of the government? The entire thing is absolutely ridiculous on its face.
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Digitalizing1 day ago
+2
He looks like his skin is officially starting to become so old and frail that the makeup isn't adhering like it used to.
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TheDevilsAdvokaat1 day ago
+2
So now he plans to loot the IRS?
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AlphSaber1 day ago
+6
He always has. If the government funds don't flow to his checkbook, then they are stolen from him.
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larrylightfingers1 day ago
+2
How the f*** are we normailising that face???? we are so fucked.
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Hugokarenque1 day ago
+2
Surely this time he'll be a good boy and comply.
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meatsmoothie821 day ago
+2
“Because someone tried to \*kill me\* “ he says through watery eyes 😢
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SpliTTMark1 day ago
+2
Harmed and exposed are to different things
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PatTheCatMcDonald1 day ago
+2
Paedofool has to demonstrate he is a reputable adversary?
Quite a challenge for him to prove he's legitimate in his quest for money.
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Caymonki1 day ago
+2
If Trump steals $10b from the country, laws and regulations mean nothing and the country enters free fall.
The whole system is nothing if an elected official can steal our money while telling us there’s no money for public programs WE HAVE ALREADY PAID TAXES INTO FUNDING. He’s stealing money we already paid, earmarked for services that benefit us.
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freebirth1 day ago
+2
Corruption .. that's why
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wrexsol1 day ago
+2
10 billion dollars! It's just so goddamn stupid.
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flygirlsworld21 hr ago
+2
The fact Theyre trying to listen to the bullshit
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thefanciestcat21 hr ago
+2
Let's call this what it really is.
Trump is trying to take $10,000,000,000 of what we paid in taxes.
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MustachePeteDrexel20 hr ago
+2
His response will likely to call the judge a nasty human or something along those lines. There is not justification as to why he should have a single dollar let alone 10 billion. He already took 10 billion for his “board of peace”. Was that not enough? He’s trying to essentially take 10 billion more?
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Whygoogleissexist1 day ago
+5
Quick answer. It should not.
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Dull_Bird33401 day ago
+3
This is the Republicans fault, there's at least one bill in the Senate that would prevent trump and any presidential family member from suing and receiving money from the government. It's outright in your face corruption but they won't say a thing.
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Status_Tiger_62101 day ago
+3
Nothing a little staged assassination attempt can't fix, right Donnie?
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zackmedude1 day ago
+3
If this isn’t corruption, and it’s definitely aided and abetted by the DOJ, then I have a bridge that I need to sell at a very low price.
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darkfires1 day ago
+3
He’s suing us because someone at the IRS let us see what all other modern presidents have shown us of their own free will. He’s forcing us to effectively buy a peek at his returns for $10 billion and there are some people out there that believe he deserves to just take our money like that? That’s a form of mass delusion, right?
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strugglz1 day ago
+2
Literally every time he files a lawsuit the number gets bigger. It's like he's searching for an amount that will just get laughed out of court.
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raelik77718 hr ago
+2
The fact that anyone even allowed this to be entertained and didn't have him immediately impeached for attempting it is complete batshit insanity. The level of rank corruption required beggars belief. Literally everyone involved in perpetuating this mendacity should be locked up and the key thrown away. People like this do not belong in polite society. Thieves and frauds of the highest order. Bernie Madoff would be shocked if he were still around. The Enron exec who killed himself, Cliff Baxter, might have went, "Ya know what? I'm good. If the President can try to sue a department of the branch of government over which he has complete say, to bilk it for $10 billion dollars... we might get off easy."
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HanginLowNd2daLeft17 hr ago
+2
I can’t wait for him to say he’s being robbed and whines as a judge protects the tax payers from Trump from stealing even more of our hard earned money
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Kevin6867661 day ago
+2
The United States Government still has separation of powers.
It's not Congress, Senate, and President.
It's IRS, Post office, and politians.
The president should not try to f*** with the IRS. They have more dirt on him than his diapers have shit. If they team up with the Post office he is fucked.
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