Proof you can pretty much get away with anything if you have a solid fanbase. Insane.
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Select_Fondant91756 days ago
+243
Look at Chris Brown
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Jakereddits6 days ago
+132
beat me to it
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Worldly_Cap_64406 days ago
+65
Rihanna?
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Worst-Lobster6 days ago
+12
The celebrity apprentice guy too .
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Hmmmm-curious6 days ago
+5
I see what you did there
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ThisAppsForTrolling6 days ago
+4
F****** well played
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PermanentBr4inDamage6 days ago
+18
I say this as a fan of Led Zeppelin, but Jimmy Page kept a 17 year old cooped up in his house til she was 18, so did Steven Tyler of Aerosmith, Pete Townshend was found with a hard drive of CSAM and got away with it by saying he was researching to help the FBI. Their music still dominates most rock music airwaves.
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Select_Fondant91756 days ago
+9
Aerosmith, and Red Hot Chili Peppers come to mind
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Sunshuffle6 days ago
+4
He slept with Lori Maddox who was 13-14, as did Bowie and a number of others
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xyzygyred6 days ago
+2
Bowie slept with Lori Maddox?
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Upset-Sale68696 days ago
+5
Look at Elvis
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Doom_Corp6 days ago
+3
I legit know a woman who gave me her entire f****** history about being emotionally manipulated and abused by one of her exes. Told her what to wear, how to dye her hair. I'm not sure if he hit her but she describes this person as that darkest part of her life. She proudly defends Chris Brown and is dating (maybe now married) to a man nearly 20 years her senior. She seems happier and is happy to be mom to the step kid but when I saw her roll up with a CB tank a lot of things clicked before we had the "for why still fan?" conversation.
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Ok-Temporary-82436 days ago
+2
I mean, it helps thst his victim is also his biggest supporter and actively attacks people who criticize him
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mister_empty_pants6 days ago
+9
Snoop Dogg killed someone and got off on a technicality and listnook loves him. Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist, another listnook darling.
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regoapps6 days ago
+31
I mean, even Hitler still has fans. I heard that one of them even got a $33 million payday recently.
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SithC6 days ago
+4
And another fan of his is president.
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spazz7206 days ago
+7
Snoops bodyguard killed him…he was the driver in the car.
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pants_pants4206 days ago
+8
the “technicality” being self defense lol
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Broken-Digital-Clock6 days ago
+20
Snoop went maga. He's not as beloved anymore.
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WuTang4thechildrn6 days ago
+9
He has a fanbase. I think one thing people need to understand is that you have a large segment of people that just don’t care about politics
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Broken-Digital-Clock6 days ago
+2
Which is a big reason why we are in this current mess.
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WuTang4thechildrn6 days ago
+5
I have mixed feelings on that. I do think people should stay informed but I also think that just being inundated all day with politics is unhealthy.
Now to your point. I tend to not want to deal with people that are just indifferent or who do the both sides are the same bullshit
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McBurgerQueen6 days ago
+4
Damn since when is he maga?
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Broken-Digital-Clock6 days ago
+11
He performed for them and tried to play it off like it wasn't a big deal.
Unfortunately, Hugh Jackman as well.
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danram2076 days ago
+4
I think he also went that way to get a friend pardoned or something
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WuTang4thechildrn6 days ago
+3
He got off based on self defense
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Another_Samurai16 days ago
+3
How is that on Listnook? Try Facebook
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Zealousideal_Gate_136 days ago
+3
Snoop was acquitted.
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pasta_chovie6 days ago
+2
Snoop Dogg is lame as f***. One of the biggest sell outs of all time.
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WoebegoneWarbler6 days ago
+3
People love Bowie like he was the nicest guy in the world even though he slept with children.
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andr0medamusic6 days ago
+3
“Slept with children” is a wild way to say “once slept with a 16 year old he says he didn’t know was 16”
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WoebegoneWarbler6 days ago
+6
You’re missing the other one who was 13-14 years old.
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ISaidItSoBiteMe6 days ago
+2
Like Karl Malone. Kobe paid off his victim and NBA fans still think he’s a god
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Chineseunicorn6 days ago
+4
I know Kanye is a piece of shit. But Kanye has only said vile shit. Chris brown has actually done vile shit multiple times. I don’t see them as the same
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Mmaibl16 days ago
+47
If trump isn't already proof of that, literally nothing is
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leaC306 days ago
+9
Tou-effing-ché
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G-Unit111116 days ago
+24
I won't partonize any artist who records a song called "Heil Hitler". Nope.
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leaC306 days ago
+66
It is also proof that social media outrage, doesn't have the seismic impact that people think that it does.
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Special-Garlic12036 days ago
+6
He wouldn't have made a big point of apologizing if it didn't affect him.
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undernopretextbro6 days ago
+4
He can be personally remorseful without being effected by the complaints of Listnookors
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univrsll6 days ago
+15
Proof Listnook can't cancel for shit and the world is bigger than online echo chambers. Insane.
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South-Increase-42026 days ago
+3
I mean, our president proves this every day …
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habitualine-stepper6 days ago
+7
Pretty sad that basically all it takes is one good album for some people to fully throw away their morals...
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Fickle_Theory_87606 days ago
+15
He probably had more than three good albums
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Arch-by-the-way6 days ago
+2
We’re acting like he murdered and ate a child or something. He’s a crazy person who has said some crazy things
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ChineseAstroturfing6 days ago
+8
Thank you! Bipolar guy has manic episode and thinks there’s a conspiracy against him.
Like Ok. What he said was wrong but let’s keep things in perspective.
The real assholes were the ones taking advantage of him during his breakdown by inviting him for interviews and shit to cash in on his illness.
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Playful-Marketing3206 days ago
+2
He had multiple allegations against him and released a song called Heil Hitler. He’s an awful human being and his mental healer doesn’t excuse his actions.
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Windows-XP-Home-NEW6 days ago
+2
weird how when he has a mental breakdown so many people are against him but when other celebs have mental breakdowns and go bonkers people are rooting for them... I just don't know why.
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Thizzenie6 days ago
+2
Look at Trump
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extrasponeshot6 days ago
+8
Sounds like MAGA
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bnyc6 days ago
+2
https://www.listnook.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/79rG5jMcIM
Did you see the crowd that went to his concert? He’s playing to MAGA audiences now.
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myredditissfw6 days ago
+2
Mostly seems like nihilist idiots.
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Lostmypants696 days ago
+5
Dude sold 60k tickets to two different shows in 2 days. He is a superstar
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MeatCatRazzmatazz6 days ago
+8
A "superstar" who released a heil hitler song in the past year. But what's a little nitpick like that?
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mrshavedsnow6 days ago
+3
Well he didn't play any of those songs at the show. The Kanye that showed up for both shows was pre-mental illness Kanye. Thats why it was such a success in Los Angeles (one of the most liberal city in the country).
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Prize-Flamingo-3366 days ago
+2
Still know people that support Chris Brown. Have a friend who unironically shouts “Free R Kelly. He did nothing wrong”.
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Horror_Cap_71666 days ago
-1
it doesn’t really feel like he’s “getting away” with anything - the guy had a mental health crisis. The things he said are awful, but it’s pretty medically understood why he did them, and he’s trying to get a hold of those issues.
I can understand not wanting to see him perform, or being uncomfortable with it, but I also can’t blame people for giving him another shot.
-1
mangabalanga6 days ago
+6
Yes all the bipolar folks I know drop Super Bowl ads for swastika shirts on their websites as a cross-promotion for their new Heil Hitler songs.
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Horror_Cap_71666 days ago
+6
A much higher percentage of people with bipolar I do shocking stuff like that compared to mentally healthy people. Doing deliberately provocative, offensive, shocking things during manic episodes is extremely well-documented. That’s part of the illness.
Most people who are severely ill like this just aren’t famous and don’t have hundreds of millions of dollars, so they luckily don’t have the platform to publicly humiliate themselves like that.
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NobodyLikedThat16 days ago
+1
Team Breezy nodding in agreement
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Sad_Difficulty2266 days ago
+1
Like Trump it’s an American thing
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Sicparvismagneto6 days ago
+1
“I can say anti-semetic things” -Ye
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Captain__Trips6 days ago
+1
And you can be as antisempetic as you want as long as you keep the country out of it
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MentalDisintegrat1on6 days ago
+1
Chris Brown has fans still and one of his girls he was banging got abused and she ran right back to him.
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ForwardLove83506 days ago
+1
He can’t get away from his own mental prison though.
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sneaky-pizza6 days ago
+1
President, even
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JohnCenaJunior6 days ago
+1
Maga logic
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WesternUnusual27136 days ago
+1
Being a man is important too. Look at the absolute slamming chapelle roan got over something she didn't even do.
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youreusingyourwrong6 days ago
+272
He's the most successful black, white supremacist to ever live.
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leaC306 days ago
+89
It is him and then Clayton Bigsby.
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youreusingyourwrong6 days ago
+19
Kanye probably wouldn't even kill himself for the movement, either.
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378536885447886 days ago
+3
But he did divorce his wife.
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CrittyJJones6 days ago
+20
Candace Owens is doing pretty well
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gideon5136 days ago
+11
She is not doing $33 million well. Be honest.
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TheOneCalledThe6 days ago
+3
she making a bag but not that kind of bag
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npczerozerozero6 days ago
+2
Her husband is a billionaire
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imafnheadbanga6 days ago
+2
Not the most successful African American one tho
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Agitated-Ad-5046 days ago
+135
Just proves that cancel culture is largely a placebo.
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Pinksamuraiiiii6 days ago
+68
I think cancel culture does affect, but not to the extent that people think. For instance, it said he made around $33 million. But, had he not been cancelled, I’m sure he would’ve made well over that. Maybe double, or even triple that. It’s all about perspective.
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MrPogoUK6 days ago
+16
I’m pretty sure the situation with any controversy around someone famous is a relatively small number of people make an awful lot of noise about how terrible they are and must be cancelled immediately, so companies react to that out of fear it will really hurt their bottom line, but actually most people don’t pay enough attention to celebrity news to have even realised it’s happened, and most of those who do know about it don’t really care.
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thick_and_curved_up6 days ago
+3
Kinda goes to show that the loudest people can usually be ignored, because they don’t speak for a majority of the population.
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Zestyclose-Novel11576 days ago
+6
I think it’s also indicative of different audiences. His audience will be much more tolerant than Ezra kleins audience for example or some other white liberal and upper middle class icon. Not that he doesn’t have some of those people who probably listened before but they probably aren’t selling out his shows if I were to guess.
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BerriesNCreme6 days ago
+2
Kanye lost at least a billion dollars in sponsorships and partnerships
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Gootangus6 days ago
+4
He was a billionaire before lol
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Pinksamuraiiiii6 days ago
+4
What does that have to do with my comment at all?
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Gootangus6 days ago
+4
I was agreeing with you, basically saying 30 mill ain’t much and he has been punished
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ThisI5N0tAThr0waway6 days ago
+3
It affect stars but at the margins. If you look at guys that were cancelled like the comedian James Veitch, The cancellation effort against him (due to multiple and credible rapes/attempted rapes allegation) was very efficient and he is nowhere to be found nowadays. Or Kevin Spacey, despite being declared innocent/ not civility liable in court but he still fell hard.sed to be an A/S tier actor and now so much lower.
But the music industry is different, I'm not sure why. I'm guessing because The link between an artist and their public is more direct, most people don't follow controversies around their artist. Whereas in most other entertainment category have some gatekeeper who are engaging their money even for A tier celebs.
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jeffsang6 days ago
+6
Not sure if it proves that, just that a few people are famous/powerful enough to be uncancelable.
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Vkardash6 days ago
+4
If you're big enough. You forgot that caveat
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MazzIsNoMore6 days ago
+7
I agree but Kanye does have the benefit of being obviously mentally ill.
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Relevant-Ad22546 days ago
+2
Um cancel culture doesn’t affect right wing celebrities. Racism is feature not a bug to their fans.
It only applies to people with more progressive fan bases
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deadphisherman6 days ago
+11
I think every day we see plenty of assholes who spend their money supporting garbage people.
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reddittorbrigade6 days ago
+28
Donald Trump has the same solid fanbase too.
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Zimgar6 days ago
+18
I think this is more of an edge case than anything.
People still think he’s f****** insane, but they also think he’s a creative genius, and like his music.
His insanity doesn’t really matter to most people because it doesn’t really affect them at all.
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businessinsider6 days ago
+9
**From Business Insider’s Callie Ahlgrim:**
If you've only been reading the headlines about Ye over the past few years (Sexual assault allegations! Antisemitic tirades! A shocking number of explicit references to Hitler!) you might assume his career is dead in the water.
But if you were at SoFi Stadium last week during one of his sold-out concerts, you'd have witnessed a man who's not only dry and alive, but defiantly perched on top of the world.
Literally: When the artist formerly known as Kanye West returned to the stage last week to commemorate the release of his album, "Bully," he performed atop a massive globe-like mound designed to resemble our rotating Earth. The set list was packed with hits from across Ye's career, from the prophetic noughties single "Can't Tell Me Nothing" to "Heartless," "Power," and newer additions to his catalog. He reportedly grossed $33 million in two nights, breaking a record for the Los Angeles venue.
Ye is hoping to continue that financial success abroad, though he's already facing institutional resistance. He's booked to headline all three nights of London's Wireless Festival in July, which UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer described as "deeply concerning," citing the rapper's "antisemitic remarks and celebration of Nazism." The day after Starmer spoke out, Pepsi withdrew its sponsorship of the event, followed quickly by the beverage company Diageo, which owns brands like Guinness, Ciroc, Captain Morgan, and Johnnie Walker. The British charity Campaign Against Antisemitism has urged the UK government to ban Ye from entering the country.
And yet, Ye's latest appearances stateside prove that even gatekeepers who wield their ad dollars don't hold the power they once did in show business. Ye is a multimillion-dollar brand unto himself, and there are hordes of fans who are happy to put money in his pocket, whether by seeing him live or supporting his music. Indeed, "Bully" debuted at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 after selling 56,000 physical copies and amassing over 98 million on-demand streams in its first week. Not bad for a man who seems to generate negative press with every breath.
[Read the rest of Ahlgrim’s analysis. ](https://www.businessinsider.com/kanye-west-comeback-sofi-bully-album-backlash-reactions-analysis-2026-4?utm_source=listnook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=insider-entertainment-sub-post)
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dntbstpd16 days ago
+36
Yeah, Kanye fans just have low standards and zero morals.
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a_velis6 days ago
+10
A lot of people fit that category.
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Pinksamuraiiiii6 days ago
+7
Yep, every artist has die-hard fans that will still love them, no matter how low they sink. This article proves that Kanye West has the financial backing of $33 million from fans who still have no morals when it concerns him. However, had he not been canceled I’m sure he would’ve made double that or triple. You will always get more bees ($) with honey, then you will with vinegar.
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myghostflower6 days ago
+24
just to show cancel culture isn't real but on the side that people will never be held accountable for what they did especially this big name celebs
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Arch-by-the-way6 days ago
+32
He said some insane stuff and lost his adidas deal and his family for some time
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IllllIIllllIll6 days ago
+7
Somehow, it’s not enough for these people lol they just wanna see someone publicly suffer to point n laugh
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Physical_Ease66586 days ago
+3
...and presidents. Who were convicted of crimes. Not just exercising freedom of speech.
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myghostflower6 days ago
+2
yes, both are bad for obvious reasons
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Greedy_Key_6306 days ago
+3
It's hard not to believe the world is fucked when the social regression we've gone through is to the point where Nazism is not only acceptable but profitable.
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Huuk96 days ago
+3
Still a giant turd. Loved his music, hate what he became.
He will blow this payday, like he always does, on stunts and stupid material c*** to try to stay relevant.
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Ok-Jury-61616 days ago
+8
"George Bush doesn't care about black people"
Said Kanye, as he proceeds to follow a real racist.
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Iginlas_4head_Crease6 days ago
+17
People still like to listen to some of the biggest bangers of the last 25 years
Despite all his problems, EVERYBODY gets nodding as soon as they hear "na, na na na wait till I get my money right"
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gassyfrenchie6 days ago
+9
Everybody still knows the words to Gold Digger
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MazzIsNoMore6 days ago
+5
I just listened to the trilogy last week to wash the sound of that last album out of my ears. I forgot Late Registration had all those hits. I forgot how thoroughly he demolished the idea of the sophomore slump.
I'm not paying to go see him but College Dropout through Yeezus are too good to not listen to.
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gtp19776 days ago
+4
So does Trump somehow, but it doesn't make it right...
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Intelligent-Exit-6346 days ago
+2
So does Melania's fee for her movie. LOL, dumbshit.
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Paleblood_Hunt6 days ago
+2
We straight up deserve Trump.
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Mundane_Existence06 days ago
+2
So does Chris Brown, many who are women.
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redditobserverone6 days ago
+5
And all that proves is that worshipping people for how much they get paid is a deeply ignorant metric to consider when deciding a person’s value to humanity.
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Anteater-2legit6 days ago
+3
Pretty sad people still support this guy.
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Infinite-Boss-75196 days ago
+11
Imagine being a Kanye fan
You’re all stupid as f*** if you support this clown still
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Designer-Mobile-9746 days ago
+11
Why? I’ve been listening to his music since I was a kid.
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omgwehitaboot6 days ago
+4
Same, but I don’t anymore. Because he’s a bigot.
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CrittyJJones6 days ago
+5
A handful of people I work with are Kayne apologists, which is scary because they say things like "he had a point".
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Rk19876 days ago
+9
He’s such a POs and anyone who supports him is too
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snootchiebootchie946 days ago
+3
Kanye is unfortunately mentally ill and rich as hell. His Bipolar unchecked and unmedicated will have him saying some WILD SHIT that he could believe in, but most likely doesn't. He has a entourage of yes men in in his pocket, who is going to tell him to cut his shit that isn't relying on him for a paycheck.
I used to work in mental health and had people telling me some very out there stuff. Men asking me to show them my d***. Talking about conspiracies that were outrageous and obviously untrue. Claims of solving complex scientific problems or world problems. What he has said is definitely hurtful, but with his Bipolar disorder I personally don't take is seriously.
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Fake_Mustache_Rudy6 days ago
+5
If you are a fan of his, you are a piece of shit. Full stop
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GylaineGagnon5 days ago
+2
Can I not listen to his music in peace?
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canadianpanda76 days ago
+4
theyre all hiding behind, “he was in a manic episode that wasnt who he is. you have to forgive people who are in mental health crisis”
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flygirlsworld6 days ago
+2
Duh…. His fans have no sense of morale. Theyre of a generation where entertainment means more than morale.
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Kuvanet6 days ago
+4
Michael Jackson was sleeping with little boys, Kobe raped a girl, Trump raped girls.
Rich people just play by different rules.
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Jse0346 days ago
+2
No accounting for taste I guess
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BigB0iBuster6 days ago
+1
33 million huh… how convenient 👀
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Corona27896 days ago
+1
I was talking about this to a friend yesterday who’s overwhelmingly liberal. She pretty much said he gets a pass for his behavior cuz he’s mentally ill. It was pretty wild to hear first hand, I don’t even think she’s a fan of his either. I get that mental health is a real thing but cmon you gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Ed_Sullivision6 days ago
+1
You can only be cancelled by your own fans.
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Fickle-Ad20426 days ago
+1
Great time to rethink the whole celebrity thing (again)
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BillianForsee946 days ago
+1
I think the type of art he creates is also a factor to keep in mind. Hip hop and rap and specifically his music has always had things in it that some people find offensive, so when you already live in that realm there’s more that you can “get away with” while maintaining fandom and other types of support. The bar for say, a children’s television host, is going to be much lower lol
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WuTang4thechildrn6 days ago
+1
I don’t like Kane but here is something I think Listnook doesn’t understand. There is no unified opinion about n all these people that you name.
An example is Kobe Bryant. Not everyone feels Kobe sexually assaulted that woman. I think Listnook believes everyone thinks he did and chooses to ignore it.
In the case Kanye and many like him. There are people who just choose to do the serrated the artists from the art thing.
With Trump. There are people who will tell you he is a bad guy but they like what he is doing.
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HumanistSockPuppet6 days ago
+1
It's so wild that anything you say about this man's character is true. There's no wrong answer.
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gibbojab6 days ago
+1
Nostalgia is a dangerous emotion. People still support him because the memories from the past are more important to them than anything he could do/say.
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Mindless_Bid_51626 days ago
+1
People who never Kanye fans are not supporting him. People who are Kanye fans probably still stan him.
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ThisAppsForTrolling6 days ago
+1
33 Million to a dude who was at one point worth 6.6 billion and now is worth a mere 2.6 billion. Doesn’t event compute as a drop in the bucket.
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oflowz6 days ago
+1
making a lot of money doesn’t mean you are a good person. Look at Elon or Trump or MBS.
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nolesfan20116 days ago
+1
That's sad honestly
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Floating_Misfit766 days ago
+1
The man is a pos. People can support whoever they want but he’ll continue to be the same pos no matter who shows up at his concerts.
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Creepy_Ad_13156 days ago
+1
Is this shocking? I know two chicks that are ravenous Chris Brown fans. Like their homes are covered in his swag.
People will ignore anything if you can write a beat and melody they like.
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stitiousnotsuper6 days ago
+1
Nothing but a b****
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Psko886 days ago
+1
Alot of artists people dont give a f*** about what type of person they are.
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cosmothoughts6 days ago
+1
It’s always “33” 👀
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kittiesandcocks6 days ago
+1
So does the KKK
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Puzzled-Parsley-18636 days ago
+1
I mean, the other day when his new album came out he was the first and second most streamed artist on Spotify. You have to live under a rock to think this Kanye stuff is taken seriously by most people
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