Kendra Duggar, wife of 19 Kids and Counting's Joseph Duggar, arrested

and by bad child harming crime, we mean... >four counts of endangering the welfare of a minor and four counts of false imprisonment — both in the second degree

She was basically acting as a child mill, tracks to me.

Yes, they had the locks on their children’s bedrooms installed backward so they could be locked in their rooms. I don’t know how bad you must be as a parent to want to lock your kids in their rooms.

A cult is exactly right. It took me 15 years after I was out to truly come to terms with that fact. Amazing how conditioned they leave you. Bill Gothard can rot in this life and the next. The embodiment of evil. Not only was molesting and abusing girls not enough for him, he has to set up an entire cult to abuse girls and subjugate women.

One of my good friends grew up in IBLB, right in its Michigan bosom. She is somehow one of the kindest, least bitter and most loving people I’ve ever met, even towards her mom who continues to defend the cult’s precepts. I consider her a human miracle.

Sorry you had to go through that. Good for you for not visiting, f*** em.

first thing i thought of too. "keep sweet, pray and obey"

the whole state don't let mainstream lds propaganda fool you as a former member of utah mormonism that shit is rampant 

I grew up mormon as the sixth of seven kids. To this day, my oldest sis treats me like her kid instead of her sibling…and we’re both middle-aged now. The damage is real. Bonus: Since I saw through mormonism at a young age, I had the choice experience of having to parent my own parents in a number of ways as a teen. (Mostly in regard to interpersonal and socially-acceptable behavior.) The damage is real. I often tell people: “I was basically raised by wolves, and now have to learn how to human as an adult. Your patience is appreciated.” F***-a-bunch of religious indoctrination. ps - Don’t feel bad about their names. Guarantee they get them confused sometimes, too. My parents have literally gone through their entire list of children’s names before correctly landing on the one they mean. LoLsmh.

I had to fight with mine to get them to ask for a no trespass order on a major creep. Dude in his 40s came in almost everyday to see one girl in drive thru from when she was 14 on. Always super creepy with her, hitting on her, hinting he couldn’t wait for her to get older, etc. He eventually figured out her schedule for the most part, what her car she drove, and had stalked her enough online to find out her birthday and to wish her a “happy” 18th when that came around, which is right around the time I was made aware this was happening. Somehow the higher ups thought a note to try to move her out of the drive thru window when he showed up was enough, even though nobody cared enough to listen to that anyway. I about had an aneurysm arguing over that one, like that girl was liable to get kidnapped and raped with how crazy stalker-y this guy was. They finally called to get the no trespass order but partially only because I said I was going to do it anyway no matter what they said. Had another guy working there that would always stand in the girls’ personal space. One he got her number and was always texting her weird shit, talking about how k**** him and his wife were but she wasn’t fun anymore so he was going to divorce her as soon as he found “another sub”. Trying to hit on this girl and really imply he wanted her to be that for him. Just non-stop gross stuff, it took her like an hour coming back and forth as she remembered yet more shit he’d said so I could let the supervisor know, who was talking with the lawyers to get the legal c*** in order to deal with him. Think it was maybe 3 hours between first hearing about it and the supervisor sitting him down with a letter stating he was suspended pending an investigation, but he just decided to walk out instead. Less creepy and more just surprising was when one of the girls came to me, the only male manager on shift instead of the 3 female managers there that day, to ask to go home because she’d bled through her pants and only found out because someone else noticed and told her. She figured the other managers would be mad about it and make her come back after changing but the poor thing was horrified and just didn’t want to be there anymore. Honestly being the work dad is the only part of that job I miss. I had wanted to be a teacher at one time before deciding I didn’t have the patience, but I still loved working with the kids there and taking care of them.

Here’s a weird sentence: one of the best days of my young adulthood was when I got my first OB/gyn appointment. Why? Because I went to a clinic staffed entirely by women , and the doctor introduced herself by asking if I was related to my dad, who ran the lab at the local hospital. When I said yes, she told me the staff had decided they needed a male presence in the practice, so they named the fax machine after my father because he was the only man they all agreed made them all feel safe and cared for. I was so proud! When I told him, that adorable teddy bear of a man blushed and actually said, “Gosh!”

And stated his intentions were “not pure”. *Rumor* is Kendra was arrested because when the police went to the house the doorknobs were turned around so the kids could be locked in their rooms.

I think as well that them naming all their kids J names has helped in this instance. People assumed it's Josh again and dismiss it as old news and move on.

Not at all surprising, tragically this has multi generational trauma and abuse written all over it. And obviously they can't confront it, they can't go to a mental health professional and deal with it. All they can do is sit there and pray

Every family I have known that promotes “traditional family values” has some serious domestic problems going on. Every. Single. One.

“traditional values” usually entails kids being treated like property with no will or power of their own that the parents can do whatever they want with, so that tracks.

Becoming?  Christians beating and abusing their family members *is* tradition, I find the story of Lot’s daughters and the concept of sparing the rod and spoiling the child to be  particularly problematic regarding children alone.  Both virgin daughters getting a father drunk to have sex with him in a cave, just so they can have children? I don’t believe scripture, but I do call bullshit on whoever first told the story of Lot, blaming the daughters for his incest, particularly after he was so very willing to throw his virgin daughters to the proverbial wolves before he lost his understandably skeptical and salty wife. I could go on, but I think the point is made, this is *the* tradition in what I consider to be schizoid death and fertility cult.  Also, the justification for slavery if you sift a bit of history. That’s why these culty Christians simply ignore much of the inconveniences within the New Testament which is treated more like marketing so they can just slip in the old school abusive shit they clearly have not excised from their baked-in beliefs.

Apparently the cult’s creator really dug (no pun intended) that 80’s perm look and it was “encouraged” that women adopt it so he could get his jollies off.

They'll probably just do what MTV did with all the Teen Moms and add a slide to the very end of the show giving a link to a "resource" for similar victims. Watched Jenelle basically beat her dogs and they were like "oh yeah here's a page on mtv.com that talks about animal abuse". Worst CYA ever after platforming monsters continuously.