Dude all but bragged in his book about being this big, one of a kind, super special, type of addict. Incurable even!! He wrote about his K use. Maybe people took that as him trying to be sober but dude talked about it SO in-depth that it was clear he was intent on swapping one issue for another. Now while I agree drug dealers should be held responsible it’s irresponsible to make it seem like this guy was some innocent victim. He was open about doing K treatments. And the way he bragged about his super addiction (and his comedy skills, and his money, and his athleticism, and intelligence, AND how he was descendant from beauty…and on and on) it should come as no surprise to anyone he started doing the shit on his own time. His friends have openly stated they lived in fear of getting the call he had died.
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TimKitzrowHeatingUp5 days ago
+66
And if it was some random crackhead that died, no action would be taken.
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MightBeDownstairs5 days ago
+27
Exactly. People want to pretend they care about human life but reality is they care based on degrees of classism.
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AbbotOfRedwallShabby4 days ago
-8
Important to remember: you always speak for yourself. Keep ya cynicism out of my mouth lol
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Due-Blackberry80564 days ago
+9
As if he wouldn't have gotten a bunch of Ketamine from somewhere else.
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ShontelleMontelle4 days ago
+5
He’s liked by many but he’s a grown man who made his own choices
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ForTheLoveOfOedon4 days ago
+1
I get the sentiment, but is a good not always a good? Or does context diminish it? The fact is that a drug dealer responsible for perpetrating and profiting off of addiction is behind bars. She had a whole drug dealing operation. She deserves jail time the same way any drug dealer does. Who cares if it took a rich guy’s death to do that?
EDIT: I guess not LOL
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static-klingon4 days ago
+14
Matthew Perry is a big boy who could make his own decisions. This is like suing Jim Beam for the death of an alcoholic.
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Sleepingguitarman3 days ago
It's not really the same. The dealer shouldn't be charged with his death (i don't think she is?) but a drug dealer being arrested and charged with selling drugs isn't the same as what you're saying.
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foogeyzi694 days ago
+9
like its her fault thats he a drugged addict. gtfo.
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Express-Citron-63874 days ago
+1
It is illegal to sell ketamine.
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SwingKey35994 days ago
+2
so you think matthew perry would want her incarcerated for inadvertently contributing to his death?
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LilMamiDaisy4204 days ago
+3
I don’t think he would want her incarcerated. That was his friend. He knowingly over did it.
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foogeyzi694 days ago
+1
True but nobody forced him to buy from her and overdo it. They have clinics in Cali where they do Ketamine therapy overseen by pros to ensure no ODs. He chose to overdo it himself. Thats on him. He cant even stop using drugs to for a few weeks to look normal on camera when they did that Friends reunion show for HBO. He came in looking like shit like he didnt get paid millions of dollars to laugh and smile at the clips theyll show him.
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1
That is true as well. Thought the conversation between those doctors on just how much money that can exploit Perry for is chilling.
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run-on_sentience4 days ago
+7
Are they going to send the company that made his hot tub to prison for not making drown-proof jacuzzis?
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Captainpillow4 days ago
+3
Echoing someone else’s comment in a separate thread about this: “great, now let’s prosecute the Sackler family”
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1
ok. Would love to.
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filtersweep5 days ago
+24
WTF?! Matthew Perry caused his own death. Not advocating for drug dealers, but how hard is it to accept that our dear ‘friend’ was an addict?
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Dickduck214 days ago
+7
I'm fine with her doing time, but you're right. Reading some of the investigation pieces...he was still very much an addict, he'd just swapped one drug for another. It's sad.
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AarhusNative5 days ago
+11
You understand drug dealing is a crime, right. She is being sentenced for dealing illegal drugs.
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dirbofficial4 days ago
+6
Yes, but the headline isn’t “Drug dealer arrested for dealing drugs”. It’s framing it as if she killed him.
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SkunkySammy4 days ago
+4
Yeah I read another news post about this and it’s framing her as if she’s a murderer. Like drug dealers are bad, but addicts will get their kick somewhere else, and it’s not her fault if he died, because he probably would have done so anyway
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1
Yes, it is.
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JazzyJakob90605 days ago
-1
Drug dealers belong in prison, especially dangerous, hard drugs. Rule of law really doesnt matter to people anymore, does it?
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MightBeDownstairs5 days ago
+7
Dude you can easily get ketamine on the Internet from mental health providers like Joyous. They send all of it. He took the drug and killed himself whether that was his intent or not.
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goteamventure425 days ago
+18
I mean taking ketamine alone in a hot tub was definitely a bad idea
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MightBeDownstairs5 days ago
+8
Yep. I believe people should be able to ingest what they want. It’s personal freedom but with that comes responsibility.
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TheWalrus_154 days ago
Ever heard of product liability?
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MightBeDownstairs4 days ago
+7
The ketamine wasn’t the problem. How much he took and the setting was the problem. He knew that he was pushing it
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1
Yes, he was doing the prescribed at the same time as the unprescribed.
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TheWalrus_154 days ago
-1
I mean we’re getting down to semantics now. With drug deaths the issue is almost always dosing, but if 1gram of a substance can kill you there is a reason that it is illegal to sell.
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Sleepingguitarman4 days ago
+2
Weight has nothing to do with the illegality of a substance. There's plenty of legal/otc substances where a dose is 1mg-25mgs.
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filtersweep4 days ago
+1
A toxic dose is about ten times a therapeutic dose for Ketamine
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MightBeDownstairs4 days ago
+1
Literally not illegal. You can legally get ketamine online through mental health providers.
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goteamventure424 days ago
+2
If I bought legal weed, got high, crashed my car and died, that should be on me not the dispensary
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Sleepingguitarman4 days ago
It's a scheduled substance and he procured it illegally. Just because a substance CAN be prescribed or used in a medical setting doesn't mean it's not refered to as an illegal drug when bought off the street/through illegal means.
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HummaKavula954 days ago
+1
Sooooo you don’t care about people dealing drugs in the street? You think that’s fine? So just do nothing about curbing access to them?
These things aren’t mutually exclusive.
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MightBeDownstairs4 days ago
+3
That’s another issue completely separate. You should for sure read up on the war on drugs.
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HummaKavula954 days ago
That’s not a separate issue… that’s literally what this post is about.
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AsherahEnd4 days ago
+1
Whataboutism, so f****** stupid.
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TheWalrus_154 days ago
+2
Addiction is a mental disorder. It’s a lot more complicated than choosing to take drugs. Just look at what Perry himself had to say on the subject.
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connor424 days ago
+6
He drowned, he didn’t OD on Ketamine
Anyone who’s ever done K, even once nevermind someone who’s been a h******* addict, would know not to take a bath while doing it
Due to the obvious and very strong muscle relaxant and sedative properties
The line between a buzz and temporary paralysis is quite slim, there’s even a word for it a K-Hole
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TheWalrus_154 days ago
+2
Right that’s true and very valid. I don’t think my point is any different though.
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Sleepingguitarman4 days ago
+2
Deciding it's a good idea to get into a hottub while under the effect of Ketamine could also probably be considered a mental disorder.
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Express-Citron-63873 days ago
+1
And a lot of booze as well.
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frostbird4 days ago
-4
Absolving the dealer of all accountability is literally advocating for drug dealers.
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AsherahEnd4 days ago
+6
Do we charge liquor stores if some idiot buys a fifth, drinks it, and then goes and crashes and kills someone? No. Because that's f****** stupid. Because it's clear an adult purchasing and using something is their choice.
This would also be going nowhere if it weren't Matthew f****** Perry who died. If the drugs weren't laced or something then this is just wrong.
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frostbird4 days ago
-2
Your ignorance is SO apparent. Go read actual information about the case, ffs.
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AsherahEnd4 days ago
+4
That's funny, you just say I'm wrong and insult me. I know the case. I stand by my statement. This is stupid.
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frostbird4 days ago
-3
Okay well a judge says you're wrong.
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SkunkySammy4 days ago
+4
Brother you’re not giving anything to help your side of the argument
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AsherahEnd4 days ago
+3
Wow you sure told me. As if judges and even the law are infallible. Act seriously or just f*** off.
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frostbird4 days ago
+1
No man it really is illegal for doctors to prescribe drugs to addicts knowingly instead of looking out for their well-being. You'd know that if you studied the case.
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Sleepingguitarman3 days ago
+1
Addicts can be prescribed controlled substances so long as the doctor doesn't suspect they are misusing that prescription.
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