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Relevant-Doctor187 5 days ago +263

It’s only temporary. They’ll be back to Turdllatio in a few days.

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GrandmasLilPeeper 5 days ago +55

foxnews will work their magic, just give them a minute

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Cuneus-Maximus 5 days ago +15

"Kamala would have blown up any ceasefire deal with her laugh!"

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acrosstheskies25 4 days ago +14

It should’ve been obvious by now that she would’ve done a much better job, but I still see ppl doubling down. 🫩

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mulrooney13 4 days ago +2

No matter how bad things get, they'll always just claim it would have been worse under Harris.

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VlatnGlesn 5 days ago +24

Did you know Nancy Pelosi's a b****?

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TotallyNotRobotEvil 5 days ago +22

This is all it takes. Run a few gaffs by democrats run some fear stories about Trans people and immigrants and they are back in the Trump column.

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Wolfgirl90 5 days ago +3

Indeed, I do. Next question.

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histicking 4 days ago +1

"B****"? Why bring your mom into the conversation?

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 4 days ago +8

Last night my friend of 30+ years said he didn't want to talk to me anymore because I said F\*\*\* Trump in response to him talking smack about how important it was to destroy Iran. He said he couldn't tolerate any more of my 'anti-American' BS.

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Altruisticllc 4 days ago +18

I’ve had to let those “friends” go.

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Unlikely_Exercise434 4 days ago +1

As my good friend says. You don't befriend Pakleds. 🖖

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picaresquervnant 5 days ago +2

Get in here everyone, new slang just dropped!

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Caleb-Wendt69 4 days ago +1

Yeah they just haven’t received their talking points yet

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BothRequirement2826 5 days ago +228

Yeah well if history has shown anything, they still won't learn anything and will repeat the same mistakes ad nauseam.

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Rickshmitt 5 days ago +132

We were too easy on the Confederacy. Should have lived as vassal states. Look where we are. Still fighting the south over renewable energy, environmental protections, global warming, education, flouride, measles, religion, child slave labor, prison slave labor, immigrant slave labor, etc. We should allow an amnesty program for anyone who wants to move north and allow the south to abolish education and all they want and live under their own policies. Enjoy the mutated textile rivers!

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Acceptable-Resort365 5 days ago +71

Yes. They were more concerned with reuniting the union than correcting the south's faulty thinking. The confederate flag should have been criminalized. No confederate leaders should have been allowed memorials or statues.

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BigMonkey712 5 days ago +52

The radical republicans in Congress had a plan to strip the vote from all Confederate political leaders, military leaders, and volunteer infantry, I think only letting draftees keep any political power. The former states would be completely dissolved into a large territory, which would be divided into completely new states with new borders led by governments made up of black freedmen and white unionists from the South. would’ve been better long term for the health of our nation.

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Rickshmitt 5 days ago +24

Oh wow. Where we could have been not fighting the Koch brothers and Sinclair broadcasting poisoning everything

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 4 days ago +3

There would still have been terrorist acts committed by those Good 'Ol Boys who didn't want to see black folks in their local governments and the carpetbaggers from the North who supported them.

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neon_meate 4 days ago +7

There were anyway, and the terrorists were in positions of power.

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Pale-Acanthaceae-736 4 days ago +1

I see your point. That would have made at least a small difference.

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fallenouroboros 5 days ago +13

I honestly think it’s an education thing more than anything. US education isn’t great but southern states in particular got the shaft. The way to change a people is through their kids, it can be done in positive ways

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cmd_iii 5 days ago +4

U.S. education is great, when the people vote for budgets that are large enough to support it. Educated people earn more, and can afford higher taxes. But, when 2/3 of the states’ electorate is convinced that “all my schooling taught were the three Rs. If that was good enough for me, it’s good for my kids too!” Well…you get what you pay for.

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fallenouroboros 5 days ago +4

I was meaning our education is bad compared to many other nations. I did google it and saw we were better than i thought in a few things but we are barely taking top 10 in some things and in math we are ranked 31 out of 78 nations. And there are definitely weaknesses in some states, like i remember seeing texas refusing to teach evolution years ago in favor of bible studies. It has also been very aggressive in recent years to destroy bits of our history with book burnings, archives removed or destroyed. It set a terrible precedent

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OzymandiasKoK 4 days ago +2

Not so much that as being afraid education will turn them trans / gay, atheist, communist, understand real history instead of fake feel good nationalistic history, etc.

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dsaint 5 days ago +14

It’s not just the South. You can read about bussing in Boston in the 1980s. Read Wilkerson’s Warmth of Other Suns about the great migration and there is racism in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. How do Idaho, the Dakota’s, and Utah fit into your theory? Ignorance is everywhere. It doesn’t help that the regressive states see an exodus of talent and leadership, further holding them back. Alabama, outside of a heavily federally subsidized Huntsville, has been on a slow backward trend for decades. Given our political system I don’t see a way forward without finding a way to lift up the regressive states.

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Inevitable_Eagle2130 5 days ago +5

Civil War should’ve been the line. They needed to be publicly punished and humiliated to set an example.

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CameraEducational945 5 days ago +3

Sadly not just the South. I live in South Carolina, feels like some people can say the craziest, most offensive stuff. I feel like I have to just grin and bare(sp?) it

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Inevitable_Eagle2130 5 days ago +3

Until they suffer consequences it will only get worse.

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nutmegtell 4 days ago +3

I’ve always said they should have hung Jefferson Davis. Made an example of him for history.

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Previous-Bug-5704 4 days ago +3

Oh I wish that were so but unfortunately Ohio, Indiana etc. beg to differ. Smooth brains are not just a southern thing…

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Rickshmitt 4 days ago +1

Agreed. I generalize the south but its all the midwest as well and parts of the north of course. The mentality lives everywhere but i see it concentrated in the south and being a southern thing

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mountaindoom 4 days ago +2

Still supporting their welfare ass states.

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Rickshmitt 4 days ago +1

Which id be fine with, if they acted in good faith and werent run by horrible mini shitlers. But they are, so no more money

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releaseepsteinfiles1 5 days ago +3

That’s not a smart take at all. The confederacy should’ve been punished more, all their leaders and all of that. However, having the south destroyed, and not investing back into it, and letting it fall way behind is what got us to where we are as well. If the south would’ve been invested in more and built back up with the correct people in charge (this is where I agree that they should’ve been harder and got the actual confederates out). But still, you think trying to divide the country now and let the southern states fall into shit, is just ABSURD.

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Rickshmitt 5 days ago +9

They are doing it to themselves right now! Gutting education, science, environment, womens rights. Im saying LET THEM. We have been fighting tooth and nail against their policies. They are already not investing in themselves and SUCK UP THE NORTHS RESOURCES. Every southern state sucks up more money than they put into the government. They are being propped up by us while making more policies to ruin their own states.

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releaseepsteinfiles1 4 days ago +4

Don’t let them. I live here. There are kids here who are innocent to all the bullshit. So how about we f****** try and fix stuff for our future generations instead of giving up on them all because of the stupid ass, ignorant, Christian nationalists who run the south, and have all the uneducated down here buying into their bullshit. Trying to divide the country in half is just insane.

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Expando3 5 days ago +2

What’s a vassal?

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HeartandSeoulXVI 5 days ago +10

A state separate from but ruled by another state. It's a semi-archaic term because vassaldom is a very pre-globalisation concept, but think about how Puerto Rico is governed by the United States but is not in and of itself a State. It has no power or representation to appoint senators or congressmen and therefore must accept the laws of the US without being invited to take part in shaping those laws.

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philodendrin 5 days ago +4

A vassal in the medieval feudal system was a person granted land (a fief) by a lord in exchange for pledged loyalty (fealty), military service, and counsel.

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dream__weaver 5 days ago +1

[check it out](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=vassal+state)

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OrionOfPoseidon 4 days ago +1

We should have let them secede.

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elinordash 5 days ago +1

> We were too easy on the Confederacy. Should have lived as vassal states. The intense punishment of Germany after WWI directly led to the rise of Hitler. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind.

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Rickshmitt 5 days ago +4

And here we are now with the south electing trump, again and ruining the world. So i guess we shouldnt have just taken an eye and saved the entire globe the trouble. So not punishing them has led to our own Hitler. Deporting the brown enemies, collecting voter registrations of blue states, punishing social media posts critical of their agenda.

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Oleg101 5 days ago +10

And this country won’t learn anything either as it’ll probably eventually elect another bat-shit crazy Incompetent Republican into the White House again in the near future.

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BassesNBikes 5 days ago +3

After you spend over a decade burning bridges it's on *you* to rebuild them and humbly ask forgiveness *after* the damage has been repaired.

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thebaldguy76 5 days ago +1

Well, surely the leopards won't eat their face again?

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InsaneSnow45 5 days ago +43

>Jimmy Kimmel has no sympathy for supporters of Donald Trump who are now revolting from MAGA amid the president’s war on Iran. >On Tuesday night’s episode of Jimmy Kimmel Live!, the host and longtime Trump nemesis scorched former Trump fans like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Alex Jones, and Tucker Carlson. >“Many Trump voters are upset about this war he started,” Kimmel said, gearing up for a brutal takedown of the president’s supporters. “They’re saying, ‘We didn’t vote for this.’ And the correct response to that is, ‘Yes, you did. It may not be what you voted for, but it is who you voted for. And now, it’s time to do something about it.’” >The war in Iran has ruptured MAGA, turning Trump loyalists into vocal skeptics and causing something of a civil war. Many called to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office, in the wake of the president’s threat to Iran, in which he vowed that “a whole civilization will die tonight.” The 79-year-old president’s threat accompanied a deadline for Iran to come to an agreement with the U.S. and its ally, Israel.

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Local_Recording_2654 5 days ago +18

None of this seems harsh?

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zernoc56 5 days ago +13

Some take the truth to be harsh.

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Frequilibrium 5 days ago +5

Yeah call me when the televised torture sessions start.

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itsmeonmobile 4 days ago

We stopped short of tarring and feathering

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Im_tracer_bullet 4 days ago +1

Unfortunately

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morosco 5 days ago +18

I'll believe them if they actually vote against the Republican party. Trump has millions of worshippers, but also millions of supporters who acknowledge his flaws but see him as the "lesser of two evils" - with the "evils" in this instance being not hating gay people and more people having healthcare.

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schatzillaz 5 days ago +4

The “but I didn’t know he would…blah blah blah” is the latest craze

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AggravatingPin7984 5 days ago +74

In my opinion, while it’s fair to be skeptical of the people who are now flipping on Trump, it’s important not to alienate them too much. If they perceive that there is no way out, they will just fold back into the group.

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MrPookPook 5 days ago +65

The way out is changing their views and making amends for the harm they’ve caused. Flipping on Trump is not enough on its own.

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NZafe 5 days ago +27

Flipping on Trump is the first step in the process you’ve just outlined.

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MrPookPook 5 days ago +8

Yes, I agree. The next step is changing the disgusting views that led them to vote for Trump. If they won’t do that then they are hopeless.

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themerinator12 5 days ago +2

Practically speaking how can we go about working towards and ultimately achieving that goal? I’ve not known wishing for things to happen to be a good indicator of realizing them.

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Kinda_Zeplike 5 days ago +10

A lot of them will likely just vote for a republican candidate again. MAGA’s hatred is deep seated. A little bit of ego death and deep introspection is what they need. They may not like trump, some of them, but they hate democrats even more. Someone else said this, but the only successful thing trump has done is put a mirror up to the nation and show really how much of the population is filled with hate and bigotry.

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elinordash 5 days ago +1

Seven to nine million people voted for Obama before they voted for Trump. There really isn't some simple good person/bad person dichotomy here.

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McBurgerQueen 4 days ago +1

Yea I think people have a fundamental misunderstanding about populism.

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The_Nutz16 5 days ago +1

That’s a completely bullshit line of thinking that only serves your own ego. This is the exact way of acting that alienated a bunch of people in the first place. Get over yourself and welcome those who flip on Trump with open arms. It’s how you form a coalition to win an election.

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Rickshmitt 5 days ago +4

So because we didnt like them at the start, it hurt their feelings and they ran to a fascist dictator and developed a hatred for...immigrants, other religions, liberals, our allies, education, science, facts, empathy.......seems like an intense over reaction from emotionally unstable people. They are who they are and they are a DANGER to the rest of the country. They will vote this way again. All evidence before them and they reject it. If maga were studied like a rat colony, scientists would be baffled as to why they chose the things they did. Narcissistic New York billionaire rat who has a golden toilet, three wives, one a russian hooker, nasty mouth, multiple failed businesses, a fake university, stolen from his own charity, buried wife on golf course for taxes, golfs every weekend at our expense, shills sneakers from the white house.....and these other rats said yes, hes our holy rat king appointed by god.

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zernoc56 5 days ago +1

I quite frankly don’t have to welcome them with open anything. I don’t trust them enough for that. They want to flip on Trump, go right ahead. They want my forgiveness? That road to repentance is a bit longer than just flipping their vote from (R) to (D).

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The_Nutz16 4 days ago

What an abysmal absolutist mindset. You realize that a lot of people that voted for Trump voted against the Democrats. I would never even consider casting a ballot for the man, it know plenty of people who have that don’t agree with a lot of what he has been doing. I also know a lot of people who are otherwise generally decent people who have basically been brainwashed by having an alternate reality to the one you’re living in pumped into their heads. Quite frankly, those people don’t owe you anything. This insane black and white mindset is absolutely toxic to both the individuals who hold it, and our country as a whole. I hope you are afforded more forgiveness in your life than you are willing to provide others. Keep promoting that toxic bullshit on both sides and watch things continue to get worse.

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zernoc56 4 days ago +3

Words are c****. Actions aren’t. They say they want him gone, they need to put some work into *showing* that isn’t just more empty words.

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elinordash 5 days ago +1

The most important thing in the world is a Democratic sweep of the midterms. It is the only thing that can stop Trump. There is no amends that the average voter can make beyond voting blue or at the very least staying home.

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MrPookPook 5 days ago +1

There’s plenty they can do to make amends and just voting blue is not enough. Don’t let them off the hook so easy.

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BillsFan82 5 days ago

What would you have them do? Asking for reparations may not end well.

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bsibe2006 5 days ago

Self-flagellation could be a start

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BillsFan82 5 days ago

Haha, I think I’ll settle for their vote.

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Born-Ad4658 5 days ago +30

no one is going to cater to them fukk em if they're going to vote republican because ppl are making fun of them then theyre unserious

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WontArnett 5 days ago +13

They can fold back into their own ass until it shits them out. They need to publicly fight against racism to make amends. You can’t casually leave a white supremacy cult.

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Disposable-Ninja 4 days ago

They don't have to do shit. There's nothing you can do that can make them do what you want to do. God, you are watching Darth Vader holding Emperor Palpatine over his head about to chaos dunk him down an exhaust vent and you're screaming "That's not good enough" The important thing isn't making amends, it's *getting the crazy person out of office*.

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Im_tracer_bullet 4 days ago +1

What a delusional response. First of all, MAGA is NOT about to abandon Trump en masse. They're right-wing infotainment machine will have the new talking points downloaded into their tiny minds very soon, and they'll all be right back on the Trump train. Second, even if they did miraculously abandon him (say, over ever increasing cost of living), they'll just vote for the next completely lunatic conservative extremist. So, yeah, THEY are the problem, not Trump. Trump is a symptom, the MAGA nuts are the disease, so someone better figure out a cure.

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2ndSmrtestPersunEvar 5 days ago +14

The problem is too many of them are saying “I am now against trump!” But they aren’t willing to do shit about it. They won’t protest. They won’t call for his removal. They won’t vote Democrat. And they only care because they are being affected. They had no problem when US citizens were literally murdered in the streets by ICE. Their words are hollow.

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sixtyninth_wave_emo 5 days ago +4

It feels a lot like early 2021 when a certain segment of republicans were supposedly disgusted by trumps election lies and the Jan 6 riot. The conservative sublistnook is even going through the same opinion split and familiar accusations of “fellow conservative” against anyone who strays from the assigned talking points. But just like back then, dissenters will be punished until unity is once again contrived and it won’t take long

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2ndSmrtestPersunEvar 5 days ago +3

Right? They all hated the guy after Jan 6th and wanted him gone until one day they decided to just worship him again. He’s their drug - they can’t quit him. They’re too weak. Fox is too strong.

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Spiritual_Love_5272 5 days ago +40

I’d prefer if the people who voted for him were deported.

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Jumper_Connect 5 days ago +16

F ‘em. Society doesn’t owe them any sympathy or grace. They’re enablers of pain and [death](https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/chikungunya/quick-takes-death-toll-usaid-cuts-withdrawal-chikungunya-vaccine-funding-updated-ebola) for millions

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Fooby56 5 days ago +10

Nah, maybe after his first term. I don't have time or space in my life for people that still supported him in 2024. Either they're completely ignorant of the events of the last decade or they support it. I don't want someone with that kind of moral compass in my life.

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elinordash 5 days ago +1

The moral high ground is nice and all, but it contributed to Trump winning. We have to engage with people in real life and try to change their minds. It is the only way out of this. [The DNC is actually having an online training tonight (4/8) on how to engage with voters.](https://platform.winnable.app/events/local-listeners-lite-training-rhj8vuzn). They're running these trainings every Mon and Wed in April for anyone who is interested.

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defecto 5 days ago +6

Uh no, they will still vote for GOP. Convince the people who didnt vote last time to go out and vote.

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patsully98 5 days ago +3

Oh no the human garbage won't join us if we don't kiss their asses 😱

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_FarlsInCharge_ 5 days ago +3

F*** them, they are beyond redemption.

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Unfair_Banana8398 5 days ago +3

These maga people are not safe to reintegrate, they need to unlearn hate and actively oppose the ideas they supported.

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Kaboom9449 5 days ago +1

Something tells me Jimmy hasn’t thought that through

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saladada 5 days ago -3

Exactly

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doc_zoid_md 5 days ago -3

Yep. People should be rallying around people like MTG. It doesn’t matter how much she still sucks, if you want change in this country you need to celebrate people changing their views.

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Numerous_Photograph9 5 days ago +6

Changing views, and doing something about those views are different things. I won't criticize someone like MTG for her new views, but I don't think we need to just praise them for their epiphanies when they either enabled, ignored, or justified the behavior prior. Its not like they couldn't have seen this coming, as plenty were pointing it out prior

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elinordash 5 days ago +1

You don't have to invite MGT to your house for a cookout, but she is a wedge you can use with people in real life. You can bring up her changing views with people who are lukewarm on Trump. You don't win elections by refusing to talk to people. [Link](https://platform.winnable.app/events/local-listeners-lite-training-rhj8vuzn)

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Numerous_Photograph9 5 days ago +2

She can use herself as a wedge, and if she actually seems genuine, then more power to her. She doesn't need me, or anyone else to accept her to do this, and if that's why she's doing it, then she doesn't deserve our sympathy. I'd also say that the GOP seems to win a lot of elections by refusing and ostracizing those that disagree with them.

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ProphetSword 5 days ago +1

For me, though, the important thing is not the person themselves, as people like MTG should have known better, but their followers. People like her might get others to open their eyes and break from the cult. Maybe they’ll seek out other forms of news to educate themselves or to see why she changed her mind. I don’t like what any of them stand for, but they can be the gateway to getting other people to realize they have made a terrible mistake.

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doc_zoid_md 5 days ago +1

Exactly. It's about change not MTG. Forest for the trees.

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doc_zoid_md 5 days ago +1

It depends on if you want change or if you want to feel superior. If you want change, you absolutely need to celebrate someone like MTG. If other people who are on the fence see her being welcomed warmly by "the other side" they'll be all the more likely to make a similar change. The opposite is also true if they see progressives still holier than thouing MTG even after she changed her views.

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Numerous_Photograph9 5 days ago +2

They don't need my approval or acceptance to try and effect change. If they want to do that, then they can do so, and if by some chance I need to comment on it, I'll give them credit for the efforts they make. If they just want sympathy or understanding for whining about how things didn't work out the way everyone told them it would, or they failed to listen, then they're shit out of luck, and it has nothing to do with my desire or need to feel superior.

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doc_zoid_md 4 days ago +1

That’s the exact attitude I’m talking about when I say “feel superior”. It’s not about MTG, it’s not about your personal feelings or goalposts for what constitutes effort. It’s about creating an overall path for anyone in the Trump ecosystem to de-radicalize and re-integrate. MTG doesn’t matter, but shes a symbol for your family, friends, and neighbors who do.

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ConkerPrime 5 days ago +5

The conservative propaganda machine has it covered. They displayed a little individual thinking but that will be smoothed out quickly enough and they will return to their state if mindless dipshits seething with rage.

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vox4penguins 4 days ago +5

yeah, and i also remember all the republican politicians who were mortified in the immediate aftermath of january 6th....that didn't last very long either it's fun to see reality kind of sink in for a minute, but you know it won't last

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Background-Jury-1914 5 days ago +25

Maybe let’s wait until the tide has turned and these fuckers are out of office to do a “reckoning.”

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ProfCarmine 5 days ago +7

For real, do you really want to alienate people that are finally seeing things from a different perspective? Isn't one of Trumps top "qualities" in politics is that his supporters never waiver? Now they are, any you are rubbing what they supported in their face and to own up to it? Ensure that change is happening then ensure it doesn't happen again.

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Least1Difficulty 5 days ago +6

No, we need to put all our eggs in one basket and start turning people away from voting democrat long before the election! It's tradition.

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BowTie1989 4 days ago +5

In regards to MTJ and Alex jones…they’re still traitors and insurrectionists. They should be punished as such. You don’t get to commit some of the highest crimes possible against this country, and help set it on the path it’s on, then just say “oops, my bad.”.

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Wambamblam 5 days ago +21

Nobody who voted for Trump is turning on Trump.. lies, lies, and more lies.

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elinordash 5 days ago +6

It is absurd to act like Trump's voter base is unshakeable when Biden won in 2020. If you actually look at the data, Trump's voter base shifted slightly 2016-2020-2024. He has fewer white voters and more voters of color (still majority white voters). People do change their minds. The most important thing in the world is a blue wave in November. That is the one thing that can put Trump in check. I've posted this elsewhere on this thread, but [every Mon and Wed in April, the DNC is running a training on how to engage with voters.](https://platform.winnable.app/events/local-listeners-lite-training-rhj8vuzn)

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Wambamblam 5 days ago +1

"running a training on how to engage with voters." You shouldn't need training to conversate with your fellow Americans. What a joke 🤣

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middl_mgmt 5 days ago +4

Lulz m*********** out here acting superior and all intelligent and dropping ‘conversate’ ‘Converse.’ That’s the word. When you say the word conversate, which isn’t a word at all, you cone off as a dumb person trying to talk like a smart one. Almost like you need training ETA Aw poor buddy blocked me cuz he can’t stand behind his shit. But just to get it out there: conversate: a non-standard verb that ended up listed as such in the dictionary because it was easier than explaining to idiots how idiotic they are. And coward: someone who spits venom then blocks anyone who spits it back

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Wambamblam 5 days ago +5

Conversate is a word dumbass. Who cares if you like converse better. Get a life.

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Kaboom9449 5 days ago +1

Not true at all There are plenty of modern republicans who tolerate Trump but hate war, and are disappointed by the Term 2 hawk (as opposed to Term 1 where non-domestically his admin was borderline pacifist)

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Darkstar_111 5 days ago -1

That's not true, we are seeing triple Trumpers every day regretting their decision. Mostly spurred on by the maga social media sphere being fractured. With Tucker, Alex Jones, and Owens.

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fumar 5 days ago +2

I think some of them were boosting the signal of Trump's attempt at "madman theory" that Nixon also tried during the Vietnam war.

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Wambamblam 5 days ago +2

Yep, people who are clinically insane. Those three are messed up in the head.

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Darkstar_111 5 days ago +2

Honestly I think Tucker is just a charlatan.

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Expando3 5 days ago +6

You have to give them a way to save face in order to swing their vote. Got to put retaliation and “I told you so” ego behind to move the needle at the ballot boxes.

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ContextWorking976 5 days ago +2

It's the best way to say "I'm not dumb enough to know any better". Like great, whats going to stop you from voting for the next one?

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azmtber 5 days ago +5

Ask how many Fs most people give.

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majeric 5 days ago +3

Overcoming tribal psychology is difficult. We are a deeply social species that prioritizes belonging over truth. We should be supportive of those who abandon Trump, not critical.

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MasterlessNameless 4 days ago +2

In case you didn’t notice, Trump supporters have a really hard time admitting that they are wrong. As much fun as it is, shaming them for it is not the correct approach. We need to say, “Ya, you fucked up, but I am so glad that you finally realized it. Welcome back to reality, now how are we gonna fix this mess?” That is how you turn an adversary into an ally. The only way forward is together.

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ComputerSong 4 days ago +2

Try this and let us know how it works out.

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MasterlessNameless 4 days ago +1

Well, you gotta find one who is willing to admit they are wrong first. That is the hardest part. But the ones Jimmy is blasting are doing exactly that, and he is gonna send them running back to Trump, as others have pointed out in this thread.

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Im_tracer_bullet 4 days ago +1

They're really not, though. Those few only think Trump didn't follow through, not that they were wrong. They still believe in all of the same right-wing idiocy, and want the same awfulness, though. There's a big difference

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MasterlessNameless 3 days ago +1

How many times have you seen them willing to criticize Trump? That is a step in the right direction. You know there are conservatives in Congress who would love to get rid of him if they felt like their base would still support them. If these right wing mouth pieces are finally willing to call him on something, that is a crack that we should pry at. Even if we only end up with Vance in his place, it would still be a huge step to see that Trump is not bulletproof.

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Left-Language9389 5 days ago +1

Best to let them turn coat.

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glycineglutamate 5 days ago +1

Indeed they only turned when their pocketbooks got hit, not when he and the GOP leadership began to attack the Crown Jewels of American science (NIH, NSF, NASA, NOAA), or started destroying our public lands by defunding the NPS, wrecking the NFS, and corrupting the BLM, or committed to accelerating global climate change on every front so his pals could extract the last $$$ from a clearing failing carbon economy. Remember, the oil industry knows climate change is not a hoax (their own scientists predicted it after all), they just want to run it hard onto rocks so they get their polar shipping lanes and then sell you more oil to cool your homes.

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Negative_Ratio_8193 4 days ago +1

Let them turn without vocal criticism. Don't push away someone who might change their mind. We either want their vote, or we want them to not vote. If you vocally criticize them, they will certainly go running right back.

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Overall_Falcon_8526 4 days ago +1

They'll be back slobbing his mushroom knob within a week.

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Fun-Region790 4 days ago +1

I wish he would JUST be a night show host. There’s enough going on everywhere in the world - it’s nice sometimes to have a laugh and take a break from things.

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VeryLowIQIndividual 4 days ago +1

It is only temporary, but you better use these people while you can because that’s exactly what the Republicans did when they started sucking up all the cast off from the Democratic Party. They used them to their maximum potential, just remember you can dump these people just as quickly as you pick them up and use them.

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Melodic_Crow_3409 4 days ago +1

I don’t want them in our fold. I would much prefer that they just sit out future elections.

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jjb0ne 4 days ago +1

surprised they didnt somehow use the word “humiliated” in the headline

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ReasonableAttitude22 4 days ago +1

Jimmy, we’ve got your back

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knowledgeable_diablo 4 days ago +1

Kinda like the pilot of the Enola Gay yelling out the window “just a prank you guys, lighten up!”

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schoolisuncool 4 days ago +1

I mean, I get what people are saying, but I feel that it’s better to at least have a dialogue with these people rather than push them away right back to where they were. They’re not going to leave if they’re gonna be ostracized by everybody inside and outside of their group.

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navydude89 4 days ago +1

He can call them out for their regret, cause it is what they voted for, but let's be honest they'll vote the same way again.

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wired1984 4 days ago +1

Why do people call for the 25th amendment instead of impeachment?

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MammothGlum 5 days ago

Wow sure got them with that one Jim, sure it stung! It was the hypocrisy all along! Surely they’ll change their tune now you self righteous hack

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pepe_roni69 5 days ago -1

Isn’t this the guy that thought black face on tv was funny

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readerf52 5 days ago +5

I’ve seen people reference this before, and I had no idea what they were talking about, but it seems like the *only* complaint people have. So I looked it up. In the 1990’s, Kimmel played black basketball players in blackface for a laugh. I don’t think everyone found it funny then, even fewer people (hopefully) do now. It was in very poor taste and disrespectful on many levels. It took him *thirty years* to address the issue, but he did finally publicly apologize. I have no idea if he privately apologized to the victims of his racist humor. The only Kimmel persona that I know is his late night talk show host. He is better than some (damn Fallon for *always* stepping on his guest’s comments), not as good as some others. He is often very funny, but some of his skits can feel a bit mean spirited. His emotional honesty about the circumstances of his son’s birth and subsequent open heart surgeries was touching. He has been a long time critic of Trump. His humor about Trump is open, honest and grounded in reality. So, this little game of “what about….” ***every fricken time*** an article about Kimmel is posted is sort of a backhanded compliment. I can name five things Trump has done in the past week that are illegal, immoral and inhumane. Kimmel’s detractors have to go back to 1990. Maybe find something current.

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pepe_roni69 5 days ago -2

As of current, we have yet to see the racist President in black face

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m_dogg 5 days ago +5

Ah then he must be a good guy! Let’s not pay attention to anything else he’s done ✔️

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DanArkham 5 days ago

The Democrats should have ran a better candidate. They have no one to blame but themselves. Biden should have bowed out earlier in the party should have picked a worthy opponent. Donald Trump won because there was just no one better to vote for. Democrats can finger point all they want but it's not going to change that fact. If you run somebody better in the next election then you will win and the Republicans will lose. They should be pushing the next candidate and trying to convert those trump voters turned skeptics.

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robster9090 5 days ago -1

All American politics is this is vs them bull shit . No one, not a single person actually cares you see it everywhere with maga posting what about x y z and then dems make posts just taking the piss out of maga both of which drive the extremes on both sides further down the one way

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walrusbwalrus 5 days ago -16

Holy shit, Kimmel finally said something against Trump?

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BestManDan 5 days ago +4

Who’s “we”?

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Max_Rockatanski 5 days ago +1

no one is

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