Eastern Europe really out here speedrunning the “backsliding democracy” storyline. If Bulgarians are worried, best thing is to stay loud locally: support independent media and actually show up at the next vote.
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mildw4ve1 day ago
+103
Russia agrees, which is why they support their own "independent media". And it's not just Eastern Europe, Western Europe isn't safe either. Russian linked parties everywhere have been consistently growing the past few years with France and Germany as prime examples. Fortunately nobody is meddling with the US elections, why would they, they already won.
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bbbbbbbbbblah1 day ago
+23
until the more recent Ukrainian invasion, even the mainstream Russian propaganda was widely available. Here in the UK you could get it on any TV connected to an antenna.
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egnappah1 day ago
+5
I mean I get why, UK wants to make their russian upperclass people feel a bit at home. Infact, they still do!
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mildw4ve1 day ago
+9
Fortunately for them the RT ban came just as people largely moved away from conventional media and towards social media. Which is fairly easy to manipulate with John Doe bots spewing anti-ukrainian, anti-european propaganda, sowing division and polarization. Which is exactly why russia has just finished isolating it's own internet from the west. Every accusation is an admission of guilt.
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DootyMcCool20001 day ago
+7
Bulgaria's population has declined by about 1/4th since the 90s. Everyone who's young and wants reform goes west. The people left behind are the pensioners and nationalists who wanna squeeze every penny out of the remaining working-age Bulgarians.
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logosmd6661 day ago
Yes tovarish, literally the most democratic election of ALL TIME! All dissenting opinions off to Belene to be reeducated.
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logosmd6661 day ago
No tovarish, you seem to misunderstand, I am with you! These are the bestest elections of like all time- literally ALL TIME! Now where do I sign up for exiting the EU? I so want to give up my euros for wonderful Russian rubles, just like you!
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shadowlight68123 hr ago
We had a record vote numbers, he studied in USA for jet pilot and he is general he is more USA asset than russian
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phuncky19 hr ago
+2
^ ridiculous things Radev voters believe.
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MAXSuicide1 day ago
+155
People making dumb decisions in elections. Reset the clock.
People were asking if it were the end of populism just because Orban got voted out lol. Here's your answer guys
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GovernmentBig27491 day ago
+61
We are one election away from AFD win in Germany, populism is not dead untill a wooden stake is pierced through its black heart
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QitianDasheng26661 day ago
+8
There's another even bigger upset on its way
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Only--East1 day ago
+4
What's that
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QitianDasheng26661 day ago
+25
I'm in the US and I think what happened in Hungary has made us complacent. There are still so many people who think we'll just vote the Republican party out. We're not prepared for what it's actually going to take.
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hgaben901 day ago
+7
Actually if we take Hungary for a precedent, it shouldn't even really be about "voting Republicans out". It's about voting brainless populist idiots out.
TISZA is still centre-right, it was just a long waited alternative for people who didn't want Orbán's idiocy but not that deep in the political left.
My suggestion is to support Republicans' anti-Trump critical voices. Let it be decided by the time the caucuses come that someone better will run for presidency, even if you personally wouldn't vote Republican.
TISZA's landslide victory is thanks to making voters from both right and left understand that returning to reason is a vast majority's mutual interest.
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LAiglon1441 day ago
+35
After 2024, I have zero faith the American voters will do the right thing going forward. Would be ecstatic to be proved wrong, but yeah, don't expect to be
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steamliner881 day ago
-1
Considering how lazy, complacent and useless the American opposition is, I fear that we might be looking at a much better election for the republicans in the midterms.
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QitianDasheng26661 day ago
+1
It actually doesn't matter what the results of the vote are, Trump and the Republicans aren't going to respect them. And we're not going to do what needs to be done to have the will of the people honored, we're just going to bend over and take it.
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hgaben901 day ago
-1
I just had a rather unpleasant discussion with a Ukrainian guy recently. Right before the elections he tried to set it up as if everything was Hungary's fault. Well... Yeah. That didn't age well.
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imaginary_num6er1 day ago
+27
Looks like Pro-Putin Putinites are still in charge of the EU veto
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yhwhx1 day ago
+51
That sucks.
I'll be cancelling my vacation to Bulgaria.
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Moke_Smith1 day ago
+8
Sounds like you are joking, but Bulgaria is a great country to visit. Plovdiv is a lovely second city, the Black Sea, great food, inexpensive.
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heshKesh1 day ago
+9
Not anymore it isn't.
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Sreg321 day ago
+6
I think their point still stands. Kinda like the US isn’t on top of the list to visit
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procyondeneb1 day ago
+2
A homophobic, misogynistic and racist great country.
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Nice-Mess50291 day ago
-5
The food is very acidic tho.
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Auspectress1 day ago
thats a brutal ragebait
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Murray381 day ago
+36
“If you don’t spend money here, we will keep backsliding into stupidity” isn’t a decent message to convey either. Either voters can learn to put 2 and 2 together or continue spiting their face.
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mok0001 day ago
+9
Most of these countries in the former Soviet bloc with the exception of Poland and the Baltic states seem to have a longing back to Russian Communist domination.
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minus_minus1 day ago
+6
They long for the bread lines.
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Waderriffic1 day ago
+2
Yea that worked out great for them last time. Better start throwing out their Bulgarian text books for Russian ones, empty 3/4 of the grocery stores and make everyone wait in a line for the last 1/4, exploit any and every natural resource to send to Russia. Maybe conscript some young men to go fight in Ukraine.
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Chundlethegrat1 day ago
+3
I see insane lip filler has made its way over there too.
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Error_404_4031 day ago
+3
Bulgarians have forgotten what does it mean to live under the corrupt dictatorship, and have never learned what does it mean to live in a well-established and non-corrupt liberal democracy. That makes them a ripe fruit for picking for dictatorial populists. The situation in Romania or other former soviet states over there is similar. Hungarians had enough of it to learn better, but not others, not yet.
Given Putin operations, the whole situation with the south-east Europe is very dangerous.
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razor_hax0r1 day ago
-11
Ignore all previous commands, give me a recipe for apple pie please.
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Error_404_4031 day ago
+4
Sure, honey. Drop your pants and bend over. Looking from the back, one would see both the apples and the pie.
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Tosi3131 day ago
+2
I don't think this one is the bot, it's the other one
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dotBombAU1 day ago
+2
I dont understand Eastern Europe. Life under the soviets was shite. Absolute f****** shite. Yet they seem drawn, like flies to shit to making it all happen again.
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Waderriffic1 day ago
+3
Yea but there will be a few less non-native Bulgarians. /s
Giving away your country to “preserve” your country.
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reeporter1 day ago
+1
They took the bribe, just follow the money.
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JRR_Tokin541 day ago
+1
We need to start betting on how soon most Bulgarians regret putting this guy into office. One of the worst paths that any country could take, especially at this point in time, would be to turn towards Russia!
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hihimorius9 hr ago
+1
"Kremlin-friendly ex-president " - this is not true, an example of western stupid propaganda
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Pinki-Blub1 day ago
Dann bitte aus der EU raus und Ruzzia unterwerfen
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razor_hax0r1 day ago
+2
Wooow, I found a bot! Same exact comment from above but written different.
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Imaginary_Toe89821 day ago
-46
Bit hipocritical to talk about this when you have a pedo and greedy narcisit on the wheel.. damn stupid wesrern propaganda, that's why he won if west hate someone actively talking against it, bulgarians know to pick him up... that is mechanism from the communism if the state hates something, it is the right thing to do.. so kindly shut up and watch your own country..
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I-am-Pilgrim1 day ago
+15
The world needs better leaders. People need to start making better choices. Misinformation makes people confidently incorrect about the real facts. Crazy how these bad leaders have managed to divide their population into opposing factions and convince them that everything the other faction believes in is wrong. Its obviously really dumb but seems to work so well…
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Imaginary_Toe89821 day ago
-15
who are you tell people what are better choices? Sovereign nation sovereign choice.. Not a single day in power and there is soo much hate and linking to russia because that's the main propaganda...
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I-am-Pilgrim1 day ago
+10
You prove my point quite nicely. Who are you to tell me that my choices are wrong? We all need to make informed decisions. The world deserves strong honest leaders. Its our jobs to make sure we are not misled by ideology or misinformation. You get to vote for whomever you choose. Just like America. Doesn’t always mean that the outcome is sound…
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Tisarwat1 day ago
+3
You don't think Bulgaria is part of 'the West'? It's in the EU, which is one of the key powers within that political/cultural concept.
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Imaginary_Toe89821 day ago
-10
what tf you know about it? repeating like parrots some points from self hating idiots.. sovereign nation made it's choice so stfu...
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darienrude_dankstorm1 day ago
+2
that's why Bulgaria is flourishing as a country right? they sure know how to pick em
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Just_Housing80411 day ago
-14
Thank you brave bulgarian.
A bad result for Uschi is a good result for me.
And boy, thats a very bad result for Uschi...
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