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Lindsay Ellis: Did Disney Really Steal Aladdin?

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Did Disney Really Steal Aladdin?
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Puzzleheaded-Ad6023 Mar 30, 2026 +131
The Howard Ashman section made me cry. What a creative spirit who loved what he did until the very end.
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TheOnlyBongo Apr 1, 2026 +1
The amount of people commenting without even making it 5 minutes in before giving their piece and moving on is so disheartening. The Howard Ashman portion was so f****** powerful and sad and really showed how the debate of if Disney stole from Thief and the Cobbler really overshadows the real stories of how Aladdin was the passion project of Howard Ashman for years even before Disney worked with Richard Williams, and how Williams was his own greatest enemy when it came to the project and how so many people just disregard his final years of working as an animation professor and passing on his knowledge to others. You just scroll down not too far and see how many people are just discussing the title alone and moving on. Not enough talking about the main meat of the video which is like the last 1/3rd.
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magus-21 Mar 30, 2026 +800
Whoa I thought Lindsay Ellis quit posting on YouTube for Nebula
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ScoobyMaroon Mar 30, 2026 +637
She did but still puts one on YouTube from time to time. I think it's usually as a promo for nebula or because she has something important to talk about like the Ms Rachel video.
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shpydar Mar 30, 2026 +142
There is a big Nebula ad push right now (50% off). All the YouTubers who have partnered with Nebula (like Legal Eagle and Tom Scott) have nebula as their sponsor advertising the deal right now. My guess is this video was released on YouTube to sell Nebula as she is also a partner and has a Nebula sponsored ad in this video too.
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +152
That's not a "sponsorship", it's a plug for his other revenue stream. Legal Eagle always plugs his Nebula channel. He's one of the founders. They all do it, though. And why wouldn't they? The whole point of them being on Nebula is to escape YouTube's stranglehold, so if they still have to post on youtube, they're going to take the opportunity.
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shpydar Mar 31, 2026 +3
So it's just a coincidence that she posts to YouTube after 5 years (yes there was a video 7 months ago but that was for a fundraiser) while Nebula has a 50% off sale?.... And includes a mid-video sponsored ad for Nebula's current deal. And suddenly [Tom Scott is back](https://youtu.be/GpaNijzRaJI?t=877) after a 2 year hiatus.... also advertising the Nebula deal in his mid-sponsored break.... And Legal Eagle who, yes does mention they are on nebula with every video at the end of their videos, also has [a mid-video paid sponsorship](https://youtu.be/2AQPeTVrGYo?t=354) which they [replaced with a Nebula ad instead](https://youtu.be/0pvJmxe7LdE?t=378) advertising the 50% off.... All I'm saying is there is a big advertising campaign going on with Nebula right now and their partnership youTubers's sponsored ad is that 50% off deal.... and several former Youtubers suddenly appear out of nowhere and they are advertising that deal. I don't see that as a coincidence. If you do, great... again just pointing out what I've noticed the last week or so.
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lime_and_coconut Mar 30, 2026 +61
Legal Eagle is a founding partner in Nebula, him and half as interesting are two of the OG partners.
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SagittaryX Mar 31, 2026 +7
Half as interesting = Sam from Wendover
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BrockAndaHardPlace Mar 30, 2026 +61
It’s a great product, I just wish there were more creators
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NerdTalkDan Mar 31, 2026 +13
I wish could get an invite to create on Nebula. Seems like a great and supportive platform
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FrameworkisDigimon Mar 31, 2026 +2
I hardly watch Youtube now. Gutsick Gibbon, the linguistics channels (and if you count RobWords as one of these, he's on Nebula now) and Jago Hazzard are the only regular channels I look at that aren't on Nebula. My Youtube recs are fucked though.
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DanielTeague Mar 31, 2026 +3
You can usually find the video in your history that ruined your recommended videos and delete it to revert your algorithm to its more pure state. The trick is remembering which video it was, which isn't always possible so you can always just clear your entire history and then click a few of your subscribed channels' videos (assuming you enjoy your subscribed channels, of course) to get it down the right path again.
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 31, 2026 +3
You shouldn't have to do any of that. That's the kind of thing that should make people abandon a platform for one that is more user friendly. But YouTube has no true competitors, which is the whole reason why Nebula came to exist.
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FrameworkisDigimon Mar 31, 2026 +2
No, I mean I'm not watching any of my old channels any more so Youtube only feeds me music videos now (the only thing I still watch). From Youtube's POV it's like I have become a completely different viewer.
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armageddonquilt Mar 31, 2026 +29
It's less of a direct sponsor thing and more of a partnership thing. A lot of left-leaning YouTubers now post their content there for a multitude of reasons (better pay, less censoring, less content BS, etc) and so it's actively in their best interests to increase the user base of Nebula as much as possible. Depending on who you follow it's less of a suddenly push and more of a consistent one for the last few years.
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Dry-Indication7928 Mar 31, 2026 +3
Honestly, most of youtubers who are sponsered by and/or are on Nebula tend to be fantastic
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Jakewakeshake Mar 30, 2026 +53
I think this video and the Miss Rachel one were both up on nebula for a while before she posted to youtube
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +85
This one wasn't. It got posted there the same time it was posted to YouTube. The Miss Rachel one was. But it would appear that Nebula encourages their creators to occasionally put things on YouTube, or the creators do it themselves. About 15 or so minutes into this one, she does a little spiel. And it makes sense because you need to occasionally put something out to the YouTube feed to remind people you're still around and still making content. The biggest drawback of being a creator on nebula is that there's no advertising beyond the plugs you make yourself.
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mikehatesthis Mar 30, 2026 +12
> The biggest drawback of being a creator on nebula is that there's no advertising beyond the plugs you make yourself. I know the service makes money from the monthly subscribers, how much, I don't know, but those occasional lifetime subscriptions where it's $300 once or whatever and that's it? I don't even know how. Seems like a loss after a few years.
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Coodog15 Mar 31, 2026 +31
I don't remember who said this but the Idea behind the lifetime subscriptions is that they value the upfront money that can be invested in growing their content, also when it was $300 their annual subscription was about $30 a year so it still was about 10 years a subscription cost.
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Snoo93079 Mar 30, 2026 +6
Funny because I just subscribed to nebula and then I saw this video pop up on my YouTube subscriptions feed. Had to check where I was 😂
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +85
None of them fully stop, you have to post some things on YouTube, otherwise non-subscribers forget you exist.
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Wispy24 Mar 30, 2026 +46
You also lose monetisation on all your content if you have an inactive channel for long enough.
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QuilledRaptors2001 Mar 31, 2026 +3
Just finished, she mentions in video people keep asking why she doesn't post and "I do, it's on Nebula!" So I'm assuming she's either making an exception or is slowly folding in to joint releases
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LAX_to_MDW Mar 30, 2026 +307
Knew this was gonna be about *The Thief and the Cobbler* before I watched the video, the production story of that film is tragic. Garret Gilchrest has been trying to recreate the film as it was intended for years, his "[recobbled](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC4sYmilGF8)" cut is the definitive version in my opinion (and the version she uses in this vid).
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wildcatofthehills Mar 30, 2026 +132
I used to see it as tragic, but then it hit me that Richard Williams was also a terrible director that couldn't manage to work with what was given to him, including getting funding from Warner Bros and getting Suadi money. Also ten years in production must have been abysmal for everyone involved. No wonder the film ended in the hands of Miramax who botched the whole thing. Incredible talent, but not a good manager.
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Singer211 Mar 31, 2026 +21
He basically admitted that they gave no thought to how much time or money the film would take. Not a great move when others are the ones footing the bill.
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missmediajunkie Mar 31, 2026 +18
Animators seem particularly prone to these neverending nightmare productions. Phil Tippett, Paul Grimault, Katsuhiro Otomo, and Marcell Jankovics all had movies with productions that lasted over a decade.
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MysteriousCap4910 Mar 31, 2026 +13
Tbh I’m not surprised because to be good at animation you basically *have* to have OCD
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Menter33 Mar 31, 2026 +9
makes one realize why good editors and producers are sometimes needed to keep creatives, directors, artists etc grounded from time to time.
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DeKrieg Mar 31, 2026 +3
editors particularly in animation since normally in animation it's the editor working with the director that 'lock' the film down before a single animator has touched it.
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soozerain Mar 31, 2026 +4
I heard it was an equally stressful/tortuous process with into the spiderverse as well
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Zerodyne_Sin Mar 30, 2026 +36
You're also bitter about the infinite amounts of walk cycles in his book, huh? lol. The best part was a new version released after I got mine and it had even **more** walk cycles!
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wildcatofthehills Mar 30, 2026 +26
Yes I did read his book and took and animation course, which I almost failed. But understandable since it was an elective and the rest of my class was miles ahead of me in technical skills. I just remeber spending hours making a hand drawn animation focused on bouncing and squish & strech, following the book like the bible. Just for it to look like it was made by a six year old in Paint. It didn't look that bad when it was only the pencil drawings, but my God Im I bad at photoshop. So respecto to animators, from the bottom of my heart.
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Zerodyne_Sin Mar 30, 2026 +8
Elective animation... How times have changed. I'd say something like animation is its own dedicated program that requires a lot of work and focus but considering how it's treated in the entertainment industry, maybe it should have been only an elective. I'm totally not bitter about the constant layoffs or anything...
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wildcatofthehills Mar 30, 2026 +8
Funnily enough, the animation and the comic classes where electives for the whole university. Pretty sure it was the decision of a nerdy rector who wanted to spread the love for the mediums and at least employ a few illustrators and animators. This is in Mexico btw.
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TwirlySocrates Mar 31, 2026 +6
I have spoken with someone who worked on that film. She didn't have kind words. I love the animation in it though.
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kittymoo67 Mar 31, 2026 +3
yeah i cant see it as tragic anymore, just a fool refusing to manage anything
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Extension-Math5183 Mar 30, 2026 +46
Damn. That's some seriously beautiful artistry, but i don't know if I can take enough acid to watch the whole movie.
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we_are_sex_bobomb Mar 30, 2026 +53
If you’re not really deep into animation it is a slog unfortunately. If you *are* into animation, it is an exquisite delight.
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natyrub Mar 30, 2026 +9
If you got this in a cereal box back in the early 2000's it was perfection.
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MrGittz Mar 31, 2026 +6
It is a masterwork of unbelievable proportions. Problem is? Anyone judging it is judging an incomplete thing. The animation is the best animation ever put on celluloid. Ever. Ever.
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JustGoodSense Mar 31, 2026 +1
The movie is there so you don't need the acid! Money-saver. (Same with Belladonna of Sadness.)
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +7
Jump forward to 39:54 if you want some absolutely *wild* "what the hell were they thinking" cut footage.
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MarcsterS Mar 31, 2026 +3
Hearing the added dialogue on the theatrical clips she showed was insanity. I would’ve been PISSED as part of that film.
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dickpollution Apr 1, 2026 +1
Excuse me, Garret Gilchrest as in the same Garret Gilchrest who was quiety banished by Redlettermedia?
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fuck_shit_piss_etc Apr 1, 2026 +1
yeah, that name certainly made me do a double take
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Insanepaco247 Mar 30, 2026 +64
The "see how I glitter" clip is my favorite running gag, I was so happy to see it again
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +453
Lindsey Ellis, Jenny Nicholson, and Tom Scott all back on YouTube after multiple-year hiatuses is pretty cool. EDIT: Honourable mention to Brian David Gilbert also being back this week after 11 months
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beantherio Mar 30, 2026 +376
Jenny Nicholson wasn't on a hiatus. She is just taking a really long time creating her ever longer videos.
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_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Mar 30, 2026 +196
The hbomberguy approach.
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Acewasalwaysanoption Mar 30, 2026 +94
He's approaching infinite - infinitely rarely uploaded infinitely long videoessay
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WeeklyPhilosopher346 Mar 30, 2026 +28
He’s released 1 video since Jan 1st 2023. That’s pretty cray-cray.
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MigratingPidgeon Mar 31, 2026 +3
From his patreon (from whatever I can see behind the paywall) his next video seems to be about Adobe? Hope he at least puts some good content on Patreon because almost two and a half years without a 'proper' video must not be what people sign up for.
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PhoenixAgent003 Mar 31, 2026 +4
I can’t wait to watch him make a donut in the next one.
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SurlyCricket Mar 30, 2026 +50
You know when a YouTuber gets a successful patreon every video will mysteriously take twice as long as the one before it
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HopelessCineromantic Mar 30, 2026 +78
Doesn't seem that mysterious to me. If you're making a career on YouTube, but aren't able to do it purely through more direct support means like Patreon, you're more beholden to the whims of YouTube's algorithm, and part of that is more frequent uploads. But if you don't really have to worry about viewer metrics and ad revenue, you can take your time and focus more on the quality of the work itself. It also has the advantage of letting you say the words that YouTube doesn't like you saying, rather than the cutsey euphemisms like "PDF file" or "unalive."
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biggiepants Mar 31, 2026 +16
don't forget "family punching"
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bretshitmanshart Mar 31, 2026 +10
Robert Evans host of the podcast Behind the Bastards has given an interesting take on this subject. They don't have a Patreon because he doesn't want people who might be struggling feeling like they should give him money. The work with iHeartRadio, Netflix and any company that will buy ads because he wants to take money from people he doesn't like. He has also told the story a few times about working for Cracked and finding out one day half the people he was friends with were laid off and no longer has insurance. He doesn't want that for those who rely on him.
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tiffyp_01 Mar 31, 2026 +6
That's a pretty reasonable stance to have, honestly. Maybe it's because I've spent most of my life struggling financially, but I've never been a big fan of Patreon. The subscriptions are a significant monthly expense, and only let you see the work of a single artist or creative... you have to buy another subscription if you want to see someone else, so those either add up fast and you can't afford them, or you have to strategically cancel subscriptions and then join others so you can actually see everything you want to. But then THAT just makes you feel guilty, because getting a subscription just to cancel is a pretty crummy move, especially if it's a smaller independent artist...the whole thing is wrapped up in layers of guilt and obligation, and it's EXPENSIVE. And I just don't like how much of the internet is about people trying to make a buck now...everyone, everywhere you go is asking for money. "I don't have any! Leave me alone" is what I want to say sometimes. Not to blow my own horn, but I make my own games and videos sometimes, and I deliberately avoid charging money for my art. I don't have a Patreon, I don't make ad revenue, all of my games are free... I don't think that makes me superior or anything (in fact it makes me poor, which means I eat a lot of rice and beans) but I do think it's nice to share my work and not ask anything of people who enjoy it. They may be in the same or a worse situation than me, so if I can create something that makes them smile, laugh, or not worry about things for a while, that's more than enough.
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kittymoo67 Mar 31, 2026 +3
yeah if it was $1 a month that would be one thing but it aint. some do upwards of $30
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Segundo-Sol Mar 30, 2026 +30
> It also has the advantage of letting you say the words that YouTube doesn't like you saying, rather than the cutsey euphemisms like "PDF file" or "unalive." That’s an argument-winning point if I’ve ever seen one
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Quietmountain69 Mar 30, 2026 +15
Being able to talk about copyrighted material without a million dmca hassle was what got a bunch of people i watch to switch. Worth the yearly sub to switch.
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mikehatesthis Mar 30, 2026 +4
> But if you don't really have to worry about viewer metrics and ad revenue, you can take your time and focus more on the quality of the work itself. I agree with all of what you said but I also think years of comments saying "yeah but what about X?! You didn't talk about X in your 20 minute essay about Y and that means you think Z!" broke their brains so they're also trying to avoid those annoying waffle tweeting comments lol.
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Trombone_Hero92 Mar 31, 2026 +2
I see you also saw today's Jimquisition
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WeeklyPhilosopher346 Mar 30, 2026 +9
The Tim Rogers approach. And then after 2 years they release their worst, lowest-performing video ever.
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guitar_vigilante Mar 31, 2026 +3
Also the Dan Carlin approach.
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dizzi800 Mar 30, 2026 +2
I've heard murmurs he's working on an Adobe video - something with Patreon is how we know
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ThroughtonsHeirYT Mar 31, 2026 +1
Only Spice8Rack does more wicked that hhbomber: The episode on MiLL in magic the gathering He keeps doing the same episode inside his episode. Losing more memory and going craZier The hhbomber breaking the fake green wall was less psychotic than that spice8rack video
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double_shadow Mar 31, 2026 +1
See also: Joseph Anderson with his Witcher trilogy videos, getting on nearly a decade now?
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pigeonwiggle Mar 30, 2026 +109
her next video is going to be a 2 week long video chronicling a 7 day disney cruise.
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TheWatersOfMars Mar 30, 2026 +69
And I will rewatch it 26 times
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chibiusa40 Mar 30, 2026 +19
From behind a pole
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fallenmonk Mar 31, 2026 +11
Jenny will have truly have ran out of ideas if she ever finds herself on a cruise for content.
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bretshitmanshart Mar 31, 2026 +13
I don't like this shade being thrown at Bright Sun Travels
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TheGreatStories Mar 31, 2026 +12
She's dabbling in short form content now. She just uploaded one under 2 hours
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +16
True, I was using hiatus rather loosely I suppose. I don't know that Lindsey was necessarily on any kind of official hiatus either.
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[deleted] Mar 31, 2026 +8
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armageddonquilt Mar 31, 2026 +18
It was literally the most lukewarm take too...
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Khiva Mar 31, 2026 +7
People love to be part of an outrage mob.
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BooItsKyle Apr 1, 2026 +2
A lot of it was egged on by disingenuous gamergate RW types
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bretshitmanshart Mar 31, 2026 +2
I enjoyed Raya but yeah, it was diet cola Avatar
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caligaris_cabinet Mar 30, 2026 +36
Combination of being doxed on Twitter a few years ago, focusing on her writing, and having two young kids. That’d slow anyone down.
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Morgan-Moonscar Mar 30, 2026 +14
She's got KIDS? I wasn't even aware she had one, and now I find out there's Plural?!
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mikehatesthis Mar 30, 2026 +21
Two children, two books, soon a third one. Book that is. Busy life. Edit: Three books, soon a fourth. Ooops lol.
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Morgan-Moonscar Mar 30, 2026 +14
God bless her. She deserves the best after the shitshow she endured that drove her off Youtube in the first place.
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All_hail_Korrok Mar 31, 2026 +13
Plus the way she and her other content creating coworkers were treated by Doug Walker and his company. She's always been a fan favorite when she left.
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Morgan-Moonscar Mar 31, 2026 +8
Yeah, always been a fan of hers too. And I haven't watched anything from that a****** in the almost ten years since learning about what they did at his company.
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bretshitmanshart Mar 31, 2026 +4
In defense of Doug Walker I don't think he is malicious. I think he is just an idiot
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kittymoo67 Mar 31, 2026 +2
i thought it was known she was married and had a family at this point. hasnt she mentioned it in videos?
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berlinbaer Mar 30, 2026 +9
thought she was just posting on her patreon since she got sick of all the negativity she got from youtube
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AlexanderByrde Mar 30, 2026 +28
Jenny has said in her patreon vids that she's gotten nervous about stuff like scope and quality creep in her YT videos and worries that she can't post the shorter sort of content like she used to, both from fan expectations and just how the YouTube algorithm works. If I recall, that's part of why she posted the recent Pokemon video to her second channel.
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ccoastal01 Mar 31, 2026 +6
I loved her "Worst Ghost Hunting TV Show" video.
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mikehatesthis Mar 30, 2026 +8
> She is just taking a really long time creating her ever longer videos. Something is really fucked up that some YouTube video essayists take a year or two between main videos, genre television taking 2-3 years between seasons, but Paramount has been able to fart out four Sonic movies in seven years WITH a TV show spin-off. Stuff is backwards lol.
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ShmebulocksMistress Mar 30, 2026 +2
I stumbled upon her due to a post about her new video and I’m having a great time watching her vids!
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kakka_rot Mar 31, 2026 +1
Is she the one who did the land before time video?
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Nerevarine91 Mar 31, 2026 +1
My friends and I react to her posting a new video essay with more fanfare than some countries celebrate their independence with
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jorgespinosa Mar 31, 2026 +1
So the same as Knowing better
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BlindWillieJohnson Mar 30, 2026 +39
BDG is on that dropout train these days
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RoutineCloud5993 Mar 30, 2026 +28
He's not forced to live there. He does it voluntarily.
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +23
Lindsay wasn't on hiatus, she's making content on Nebula. She literally says exactly this in the video.
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armageddonquilt Mar 31, 2026 +4
Yes, I know, I meant hiatus more as a gap specifically on YouTube. I also am not sure it's even been a year since Lindsey's video about Ms Rachel.
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dagreenman18 Mar 31, 2026 +8
Jenny disappears for months on end, returns with her hyperfixation, and disappears again. And they’re always bangers
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Ig_Met_Pet Mar 30, 2026 +29
If you pay $2 for Jenny's Patreon, I think you get one video per month.
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biggiepants Mar 31, 2026 +13
People should be aware: on Patreon it's so-called "ramble videos". Those are, like, another genre from the heavily scripted stuff on her YouTube. Myself, I've only subscribed for updates on YouTube videos, like on the Evermore park.
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +6
I keep meaning to do that at some point, she's a creator I'm very happy to support.
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AlexanderByrde Mar 30, 2026 +11
It's the most worth it Patreon I know of, highly recommend it.
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xeia66 Mar 30, 2026 +17
Jenny Nicholson is back?!?!
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Cavalish Mar 30, 2026 +51
She posted a video about a so bad it’s good movie a short while ago. Apparently there may also be one of her famous several hour videos about barbie coming out.
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +28
She's been teasing the Barbie video for forever
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Rahgahnah Mar 30, 2026 +3
The director/writer/star of that movie even commented on the video.
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +16
With a 90-minute video about a delightfully low budget Twilight knockoff
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elbenji Mar 30, 2026 +12
I've enjoyed it for people learning about how alt kids in Miami dressed in multiple layers in 90 degree heat for the aesthetique
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biggiepants Mar 31, 2026 +4
Yet the Christian priest uncle is the sweaty one.
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mgrier123 Mar 31, 2026 +1
She never left, she posts monthly videos on her patreon which only costs $2/month and you get access to the whole backlog of patreon exclusive videos
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irich Mar 30, 2026 +7
Also Physics Girl. And Chainbear (if you care about Formula 1)
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shewy92 Mar 31, 2026 +2
Physics Girl and Sam O'Nella both posted videos after a year or a couple recently too.
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kittymoo67 Mar 31, 2026 +2
jenny never left, she even posted on her other channel earlier, she was working to make the video perfect
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TheShipEliza Mar 30, 2026 +2
Bdg is back? Hell yeh
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armageddonquilt Mar 31, 2026 +4
He's been doing a lot of stuff with Dropout, but yeah this week he posted a new song and it's... A Lot.
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KingKnowlian Mar 30, 2026 +5
recession indicator for the ages
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danmanx Mar 30, 2026 +3
Tom Scott is a national treasure.
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Pete_Iredale Mar 30, 2026 +5
International treasure if you ask me. I love the guy.
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EntertainmentQuick47 Mar 30, 2026 +3
Tom Scott? I thought he was like very firmly retired
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armageddonquilt Mar 30, 2026 +40
No, he made a big farewell video a few years ago but even in that he said he'd come back when he had the kind of ideas he wanted for new videos. He's doing a series now about interesting places across Britain, and posting an episode every week.
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Rmtcts Mar 30, 2026 +24
Yeah, it was a big deal not due to the amount of time he'd be away (he never even really went away with things like lateral) but it was the first time he was stopping his regular channel videos. He had made videos with almost no exception every week for 10 years. 
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sourcefourmini Mar 30, 2026 +27
I loved a joke I saw in another thread about how he's reached the inevitable late-career milestone of every successful British television personality: doing a tour of the UK and talking about what they see.
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RoutineCloud5993 Mar 30, 2026 +4
He's been doing collab videos too. A video just went up of a race he filmed last year, getting across London via car, public transport and bike
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leopard_tights Mar 30, 2026 +2
So the same thing he was doing before.
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armageddonquilt Mar 31, 2026 +4
Seems a bit more long form and structured than before, at least for now.
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shed1 Mar 30, 2026 +3
I don't even watch Tom Scott, but it's hard to believe his "goodbye" was 2 years ago. If you made me guess, I would have said 8-12 months.
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nourez Mar 31, 2026 +5
He was super vocal about ending Interesting Places wasn't him retiring, just that he wasn't going to keep doing weekly episodes in favour of one offs and mini series after a break. He also never stopped Lateral either. I don't know why everyone just assumed he was retiring.
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shy247er Mar 30, 2026 +6
He's been doing game panel podcast called Lateral all this time, he just stopped doing regular YouTube travel to location videos.
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Didact67 Mar 31, 2026 +23
Balls!
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petalmoonwhisper Mar 30, 2026 +93
this is one of those topics I’d accidentally fall into at like 2am 😭 I’d start watching “just one video” and then suddenly I’m deep into theories and rethinking my childhood movies. I get way too invested in stuff like this for no reason
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pigeonwiggle Mar 30, 2026 +35
animator's survival kit is THE book for animation.
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bluequarz Mar 30, 2026 +137
Maybe people should watch the video before saying anything on it. I didn't know anything about this issue prior and it's fascinating to find out in detail about it. I definitely recommend watching it
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spacecadetkaito Mar 30, 2026 +83
The comments on every post sharing this video today really show the amount of people that just respond to posts based on the title
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +25
Or you've got comments from people who have nothing to say other than "oh my nostalgia 😭". You have to dive 15 comments down before you hit one actually talking about something in the damn video. The whole point of the karma system was to push fluff down and raise actual discussion up. How massively that has backfired.
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airship_of_arbitrary Mar 30, 2026 +11
Almost similar to the number of "progressives" that dropped Lindsay Ellis because one idiot with no reading comprehension decided it was somehow racist to compare a Disney movie to The Last Airbender.
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elbenji Mar 31, 2026 +2
my favorite part of that whole bit is she didnt even mention the 100s of men with the same opinion that said it and she was the only one called out on it lol
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__Hello_my_name_is__ Mar 31, 2026 +8
Welcome to listnook, where early comments are pushed to the very top. Which means that on a 1 hour video, there will be one hour of people commenting that obviously could not have seen the video. And those comments will be what you see for the next 24 hours.
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 31, 2026 +2
24 hours? No, it'll be permenant. Listnook comment sections are generally always cemented within the first 12 or so hours. There's not much movement after that, and it virtually never moves after 24 unless it's like a pinned discussion post or something
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GoggleDMara9756 Mar 31, 2026 +43
Name a more iconic duo: Listnook commenters 🤝 not actually watching the video they’re commenting on
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shewy92 Mar 31, 2026 +6
I mean, it's an hour long video and comment sections are immediate.
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MarcsterS Mar 31, 2026 +20
Basically the Aladdin/Thief And Cobbler debate is pretty identical to the Lion King/Kimba debate: Years old story tropes aren't owned by anyone, and misinformation sucks.
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kittymoo67 Mar 31, 2026 +8
the kimba one drives me up a wall because the scenes they awlays show are from the newer kimba series done AFTER the lion king came out!
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suff0cat Mar 31, 2026 +1
This is the thing that irks me. This idea that no other person on Earth is capable of coming up with a similar idea completely independent of the person who managed to get famous off it. At a certain point, aren’t we just going to run out of usable plot devices? How do you make your own space adventure movie without stepping on some concept that Disney has used in some capacity in one of the million pieces of Star Wars content they own? I mean shit, didn’t George Lucas try to sue over the “Droid” cellphones as if he owned the word? You now are tasked with finding an ever shrinking grey area where you can make something that doesn’t encroach on Disney’s stuff while still making it unique enough that the audience doesn’t just see it and say “Ugh, lame Star Wars knockoff”. Oh, you want a lightsaber? Good luck finding a legally distinct version that hasn’t already been claimed by some other property. Laser sword? Plasma knife? Better bust out that thesaurus b****. Our lawyers are just waiting for your next keystroke.
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CoffeeStrength Mar 30, 2026 +44
Love the random Lindsay Ellis videos that pop up from time to time on YT. Even though I don’t totally agree with her, I always learn something.
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Lefaid Mar 31, 2026 +11
While I have certainly drifted away from holding similar views as her, I will always respect Lindsay (and Kyle) for teaching me how to appreciate and find themes in movies and art in general. I am always excited when she has something new to share.
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SPZ_Ireland Mar 30, 2026 +20
Shes definitely a figurehead in her field for a reason and even if I don't share her POV and feel like she leaves certain things unchecked (like John Lennon's domestic abuse), I think for the most part her videos are well done
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elbenji Mar 31, 2026 +1
tbh with John, he isn't as much the point but the cult of celebrity worship
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KenUsimi Mar 31, 2026 +9
Crazy seeing Lindsey be a mom, lol. I know she’s posting on nebula but I remember I have a nebula membership once in a blue moon so it’s been a minute
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cheezeebred Mar 30, 2026 +19
What year is it?!
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +18
Did...Lindsay just imply Jafar was right? I'm going to assume that that was a joke and not a sincere take because that's kinda wild. He wasn't trying to take down the monarchy, he wanted to be *be* the monarchy.
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Lefaid Mar 31, 2026 +27
I blame Twisted. I think the point is more that the Sultan was incompetent and needed to step down, but it wasn't all that serious.
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Sly_Wood Mar 31, 2026 +26
Didn’t watch the video but the original tale from a Arabian nights Aladdin is Chinese gets everything he wants with the genie but jafar gets it next and then literally gets everything Aladdin had but for some reason it’s bad when he does it but not when Aladdin does. So Aladdin ends up getting all his stuff back and jafar loses it all. Jafar did nothing different from Aladdin. Aladdin literally gets everything he wants including a princess. I’ll add that the very first tale in Arabian nights has a man who can understand animals but if his secret is revealed god will kill him. So his wife nags about what his secret is and he’s going nuts and eventually a donkey tells him dude, just beat her and she’ll shut up. So he does and she does. That’s the moral of the first story. So yea..
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NeedAVeganDinner Mar 31, 2026 +7
... This was a f****** ride of a comment A+++
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No_Accountant3232 Mar 31, 2026 +2
Any edition of Arabian Tales is a wild ride. Even the first heavily sanitized children's version I ever read was a wild trip. I highly recommend reading multiple versions to get a better understanding of each story. It's worth it.
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Cloverleafs85 Mar 31, 2026 +6
I don't know whether it's a common feature of Chinese or Arabian traditional folktales, but in Japanese ones there is a very common recurring format of person A doing something for the right reasons and being rewarded for it, followed by Person or Persons B who somehow discover what happened and try to do the same thing, with the only aim of claiming the reward and instead getting punished for it. With the overall moral story being that one should do good deeds because they are good deeds, not because you think you're going to get something out of it. Though one could turn it upside down and say greedy people poison their fortune and will sooner or later get their comeuppance, so don't be a greedy person. I checked a short version of the original Aladdin story, and it might be more similar to folktales that are like get rich quick schemes fantasies, where the plucky underdog gets half the kingdom (or more) and the princess. They can often involve trickster characters who get rewarded for being clever and/or daring. Or sometimes just lucky. These stories aren't usually morality heavy as they lean towards more of wishful thinking, action and entertainment. The one's I'm most familiar of these come from Scandinavian folktales, but I believe there is quite a few in Russian ones as well. As many folktales have been filtered through primarily Victorian sanitized storytelling for children and become relegated to 'something for kids', people expect morality from folktales as if it's a given. As if it's always supposed to be in there somewhere. Otherwise, what's the point? But that neglects the much wider storytelling space these used to inhabit. It's a bit like taking all the different story categories of drama, romance, fantasy, comedy, horror, thriller and adult entertainment and expecting it all to boil down to a child safe story with an appropriate moral story somewhere. Which is why you frequently see TIL or similar when people read older fairytales and being shocked about the contents.
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Mickeymcirishman Mar 31, 2026 +3
>the original tale from a Arabian nights The original tale isn't from Arabian Nights. It was added in by a French translator when he was making the first European copy of it.
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_trouble_every_day_ Mar 31, 2026 +2
The ORIGINAL Jafar wasn’t fictional at all
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_trouble_every_day_ Mar 31, 2026 +1
Jafar isn’t just a character from the Arabian nights he’s an actual historical figure(named Jafar) who was in fact NOT THE BAD GUY
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Kaiserhawk Mar 31, 2026 +1
Yeah seems like a fundamental misreading of his intentions.
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TannenFalconwing Mar 31, 2026 +9
Yeah but the sultan wasn't exactly a great leader so it kind of makes sense why someone would want to kick him out.
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +28
I love all these comments from people who haven't actually watched the video yet, because they're implying she's "back" when she states in the video, within like 15 minutes, that she hates all the people implying she hasn't done a video in a while. She never stopped. She just wasn't on YouTube. And she's not "back" either.
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NoFewSatan Mar 31, 2026 +6
Oh so she's back on YouTube?
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SufficientWarthog846 Mar 31, 2026 +3
Twisted is still the best adaption
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Fancy-Box198 Mar 30, 2026 +8
I want an investigation into how Pirates of the Caribbean is essentially just a retooled Monkey Island. (Pretty sure elements of a monkey island script made its way into the bones of the movie). I’m surprised Jack doesn’t brag he can hold his breath for 10 minutes.
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StarLord64 Mar 31, 2026 +1
I would be fascinated to see this breakdown. 100% agree that Terry Rosio and Ted Elliot retooled their Monkey Island script into POTC. It is fitting though, seeing as Money Island was inspired by the original ride.
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Trevastation Mar 30, 2026 +14
She mentioned the Lion King/Simba controversy in the video which got popularly debunked by YMS's Kimba video, and both his and her videos end on very much the same note that focusing on "Disney stealing from them" does a great disservice to Tezuka and Williams as artists and their own legacies. Hmm suspicious /s
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MarcsterS Mar 31, 2026 +3
Misinformation sucks, and tropes are not exclusive to one story can sum up both of these "debates".
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randomnate Mar 30, 2026 +12
Iindsay getting semi-cancelled for pointing out that raya and the last dragon drew obvious inspiration from avatar the last air bender will forever be f****** stupid and I’m glad to see her back
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AlstottsNeckGuard Mar 30, 2026 +33
I mean we as a human culture have been stealing stories over and over for millennia is this really that surprising?
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CoffeeStrength Mar 30, 2026 +126
Her point is they didn’t steal the idea.
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A_Lively Mar 30, 2026 +45
But also that maybe they “kinda might have” taken some design ideas.
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BlindWillieJohnson Mar 30, 2026 +42
Yeah it does seems like they lifted some character design elements but the story and especially the narrative structures of the two films essentially have nothing to do with one another. And the production timelines don’t really line up in a way that would indicate theft. If anything, I would argue (and Lindsay stops short of out and out saying as much) that Arabian Knight, the theatrical version of Thief was retrofit to copy the parts of Aladdin that made it such a hit, to its considerable detriment.
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LucasOIntoxicado Mar 30, 2026 +7
animators communicate with each other and get inspired by each other. that's a story as long as time. it's possible many aspects Thief were inspired since somep Ripley worked on both projects, but both are at the same time very distinct, and at the same time based on the same type of stories
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HotTakes4HotCakes Mar 30, 2026 +43
How about responding to the content of the video and not the title?
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Random_Useless_Tips Mar 31, 2026 +17
You expect Listnookors to care about content and not just use every post as an opportunity to repeat their pre-existing thoughts and biases with zero critical reflection?
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biggiepants Mar 31, 2026 +9
Listnook should do the Oscar thing: only allowed to comment when having watched the video. (P.s.: I haven't watched the video.)
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Jaspers47 Mar 31, 2026 +1
Somebody once noticed that anytime a Youtube video's title is a yes-or-no question, the answer is always No.
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Kaiserhawk Mar 31, 2026 +10
They didn't though, the video goes into detail with Disney's project being a treatment from it's creator about a decade prior based on old movies and a stage play he was in. It's mostly a case of serendipitous timing.
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airship_of_arbitrary Mar 30, 2026 +9
You, uh, might want to watch the video. Lol.
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Turbo__Sanwich Mar 31, 2026 +5
Ducktails The Treasure of The Lost Lamp is the inspiration for Aladdin
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WeeklyPhilosopher346 Mar 30, 2026 +6
Always love seeing someone get thrown under the bus for not doing their research. Very cathartic. Anyway, back to my copy of DisneyWar.
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Funky0ne Mar 30, 2026 +10
Everyone always talks about The Thief and the Cobbler when talking about Disney's Aladdin. No one ever talks about the original Prince of Persia as a more direct rip off / source of inspiration. Just watch the [opening 2 minutes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGQmtlxllWY) from the original 1989 game and see how many elements are directly lifted that are not part of the original Aladdin story and too specific to pass off as coincidence, (e.g. set in Persia instead of China, the Grand Vizier named Jaffar wants to marry the Sultan's daughter and take the throne, uses magic to summon an hourglass while she's held captive, and Jaffar is thwarted by the princess's love who was being held as prisoner). The only reason I think this doesn't get brought up more is because most people don't know or don't remember that original game's actual plot, or that it even had one.
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plastikmissile Mar 30, 2026 +58
I think it's more likely that both Disney's Alladin and Prince of Persia were more than likely inspired by movies like Thief of Baghdad (which had an evil vizier called Jafar) and other movies of that period that took inspiration from the Arabian Nights.
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btouch Mar 31, 2026 +5
_Aladdin_ borrows so much from the Korda _The Thief of Bagdad_…which I’m under some impression is in the public domain through improper copyright renewal? Is that correct? The _Aladdin_ stage musical doubles (well, 1.5x’s) down on the _Thief of Bagdad_ connections to facilitate a transfer to live performance.
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ironwolf1 Mar 30, 2026 +18
If you watch the video, it’s detailed that Howard Ashman had pitched Aladdin to Disney in 1988, and the script he pitched is about 80% or so the same as the final script.
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elvinwong Mar 30, 2026 +4
It blew my young mind when I dawned on me that the hourglasses started an actual 60 minute timer for the game.
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gecko090 Mar 31, 2026 +2
Wow this is great, but I want to throw this extra wrench in the gears. There is a 1990 Aladdin starring Barry Bostwick as the Genie of the Lamp and of the Ring, Richard Kiley (they spared no expense) as the evil magician, Susan Egan as the Princess (Megara in Hercules and a variety of other things), and the director is Mickey Dolenz, of The Monkees. I think Disney had a hand in distribution specifically but not more than that. It's been awhile...
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ACBReturns Mar 30, 2026 -2
The Queen is back
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Great_Apez Mar 31, 2026 +1
All their stories are from other authors, and must’ve them are heavily changed from original message like the little mermaid 
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shadowdra126 Mar 31, 2026 +1
I’m taking my **balls** and leaving
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