listnook does not run pop-over ads (at least on on purpose)

"However, blaming problems on a third party just isn't our style. We take full responsibility for this failure, and apologize profusely." I do this too at work! First, extensively explain why something is entirely NOT YOUR FAULT but very much someone elses. Then, with the deepest voice you can muster go "But I would not try to lay the responsibility somewhere else, I truly deeply apologise". The customer will love your attitude and will also be very aware that that b****** Will from the DB admin team is the one who did it mwahahaha!

Great, *now* what am I gonna do with all these pitchforks and torches?

I work with DART, I can easily see this happening, and it has happened before. It's understandable.

You have an extra "on" in the title.

Holy c***... so that ad would actually be tolerated on some other site?

Personally, I don't use adblock. I do use noscript however, so I *never* see the most annoying ads. In fact, there's an inverse relationship most of the time, I see almost no ads at all on the worst offenders, and I see every ad on sites that simple, unobtrusive text ads. The feedback that you might want to give Condé, is that many of the people who spend more than say... 20 hours a week on the internet (e.g. present company) have little tolerance for gaudy, flashy, intentionally annoying ads. And if there was a user setting for say... "low-key ads", that eschewed flash and javascript for text and links, many of us would be happy to provide impressions for these ads. Heck, some of us would even be willing to enable "ad customization" that uses the sublistnooks we have posted in to display targeted ads (as long as you clearly tell us what information you're using). The point you need to communicate to Condé, is that most savvy internet users see them as f****** morons, and they need to try to be a little smarter when it comes to trying to service that community. Give the users what they want, with a level of understanding that is appropriate to their tastes, and they will cut you some slack. Shove a turd down the throats of your users, and they will gag, and run.

Never saw the ad because of adblock. But because of this apology, I'm going to allow ads for Listnook.

Where's my twenty dollars??

Ok, get rid of your streaming video adverts that play without any interaction and then I'll consider disabling adblock. In the mean time, go f*** yourself.

I just officially, and for the first time in my 2+ years with listnook, turned off my adblocker for listnook. I just never thought to disable it before until I realized that people were doing it out of respect.

I work for a place that makes those kind of ads. Isn't that horrible?

Does anyone know how to allow ads on Listnook without having to mess with my ad-blocked hosts file?

I can't think of a single other site where you'd get this kind of apology. Thanks, Listnook.

Here is a thought, take the massive outcry from what has to arguably be your *most sought after demographic* and show the other Conde sites and say "We should consider getting rid of all pop up ads everywhere, regardless of their profitability in the short term" You had a nice slice of that golden demographic actually *turning off ad-block intentionally* to support you, and you have damaged that relationship (potentially) irreparably. Some of us may never get around to whitelisting Listnook again simply because it is too much to bother with that setting a second time.

"at least on on purpose"

Hello Listnook admins. I had AdBlock on for every site, including yours. Thus, I was not affected by the 'ad'. However, the way you guys have handled this situation has impressed me. I am now turning off AdBlock for Listnook. You are the only site that gets this privilege. Hopefully this will help offset the amount of Listnookors that have, undoubtedly, turned AdBlock back on.

What's with all the haters downvoting this?

>If you turn AdBlock off, you will see... Hah! Nasty adminses tries to tricks us.

Question: Have you considered changing to [Project Wonderful](http://www.projectwonderful.com/) ads? (Developed by Ryan North of Dinosaur Comics) I don't block ads, and this is a great project that might work here.

I don't care. I don't mind you making money. As long as you don't let the corporations who buy ads control content, as they do in much of traditional publishing.

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**[DART](http://www.doubleclick.com/products/dfa/index.aspx) IS Doubleclick...** >*Understanding the consumer...DFA’s sophisticated targeting ensures your ads reach the right audience.* 0_o < ...!?

do you just read ALL comments on AL listnooks? *feels uncomfortable knowing that jedberg is a stalker*

The real tragedy here is that the flood of complaints displaced some *extremely* hilarious iPad jokes that might not get the attention they deserve.

Fear the wrath of our Internet Mob, father. We're growing stronger by the moment and we can not stand your pesterance. You have been forewarned.

Unintended positive consequence - I actually had Adblock enabled for Listnook and didn't really think much of it, but when I saw the onslaught of complains about the pop-over, I turned it off so I could check out how bad it was for myself (by then I think you'd got rid of it because I never saw it). Anyway, now the storm has passed and I'm all guilted into leaving Adblock off for listnook.com. If that was your plan all along, then... curses!

Since I've installed Windows 7 recently I hadn't whitelisted listnook. This reminded me!

Verizon has been making a lot of claims about having a bigger "map" out there. But with AT&T you get a big ad that covers half your screen. I guess that settles it.

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DART is run by Google. Part of Doubleclick.

To everyone bitching about turning off AdBlock, you don't have to turn it off altogether - just click on the down arrow next to the ABP icon and select Disable on Listnook.com. Quit bitching - the site is free, how else do you think businesses are able to stay up and keep running?

"So what happened? We do not actually control the ad box on the right -- that is outsourced to a company called DART. We share an account with the rest of Conde, so multiple people have access to this. Someone accidentally put in the wrong ad for the wrong site, and you saw the result." "However, blaming problems on a third party just isn't our style. " ?????

All is forgiven. This time. (unloading shotgun)

I had adblockplus up this whole time. However, due to seeing how quickly Listnook Admins handled the pop-up fiasco, I think it its definitely worth supporting Listnook by adding them to my whitelist. Congrats Listnook, your the first (will probably be the only) website that I deem whitelist worthy. Without the fiasco, I would never have thought about whitelisting this site. Every cloud has a silver lining.

The way you handled this little mistake made me turn off AdBlock for Listnook.

...and the bad PR for AT&T continues!

Very glad that is settled...now can we go back to spamming the new page with **BREAKING NEWS JD SALINGER IS DEAD** posts

In the interest of total disclosure: Did you get any money from AT&T out of this 'mistake'?

Question: Do you get paid for ads based on views, clicks, or purchases?

In other words: we tried it out to see what would happen, everyone flipped out so we changed it back.

Use [Caja](http://code.google.com/p/google-caja/).

"listnook does not run any kind of ads ever if you use adblock plus and noscript." FTFY

How many clickthroughs are you getting on that ad space? Based on the reaction of the users I can't imagine it's a lot.

When you guys took the announcements power, I seem to remember something about how you would only use it rarely, but I've seen announcements at the top of my list 5-6 times in the last few weeks.

How dare you take away listnook's reason to be outraged!! I demand something about Israel to be posted immediately to compensate for this loss.

why would you ever turn adblock off to begin with?

Why on earth would I turn adblock off?

Give us all 10 karma points as a peace offering.

I block ads on listnook because ads are listed posing as content. If ads were only on the side, I'd totally add an exception for this site.

At least we know why apple hasn't enabled flash on its iPad. Because AT&T ads would slow the AT&T 3G connection to a crawl.

You guys are some classy S.O.B.'s and that's why I love it here.

People actually turn ad block off?

No excuses, no second chances--you scorched the retinas of my virgin eyes by making me look at a pop-out ad for a few seconds! Never mind all the disguisting drivel I've viewed on 4chan--you have verily violated my innocence! Hang the listnook staff high from the rafters for this unforgivable and egregious error! Save me, O AdBlock! Oh wait, maybe I should get back to work. Losers

ok you guys are nerds, and you didnt know that an ad was a pop-up? isnt that like your job? if i was your boss i would fire you

If only our politicians could be like you guys.

>As karmanaut predicted, here is where I ask you to give us another chance and disable AdBlock for listnook. Um - no. But that shouldn't hurt you much, if at all; last time I looked, the people clicking on ads primarily are forty-something white women in the mid-west, and they respond especially well to sweepstakes ads. Not exactly the listnook demographic. I'm leaving Ad Block on to make more room for the content, which is why I come to the site in the first place. Less content == less value.

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its weird cause i really want a blackberry now

As a web designer who has advertising on some of my sites, I had this happen once before. The cross scripting via java managed to flip my site to another. [No-Script](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/722) is better to use than Ad-block. It allows a site to have normal advertising in order to pay the bills, but does a pretty good job at blocking the cross-script applications. I don't know about everyone else, but I never saw a full-page ad on Listnook, and probably because of No-Script. Still, I do see they're normal ads in the box.

>As karmanaut predicted, here is where I ask you to give us another chance and disable AdBlock for listnook. OK... but at the first sign of an animated ad, I'm re-enabling it.

Thanks, but AdBlock is on for a reason - and it's on for all sites, no exception. I do appreciate listnook's efforts; you guys run a great site.

I have used listnook with adblock off for the longest time. When you ask me to turn it off though, thats where I feel heckled. Turned it on, and it's staying on.

I appreciate your wtf-reaction-time

And this is why I love listnook. Accountability! For what it's worth, I disable ABP on listnook, and didn't get the pop-over ad.

Look, they fixed it, they fixed it quickly, they gave an explanation, pretty much the did ...everything... right.

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Ok, Adblock is off. :) Cause you asked nice.

It's not your fault, it's Conde Nast's. So I'm sending a message to Conde Nast, not you, when I keep my AdBlock Plus on.

Sure. Just like the subliminal Mcdonalds ad on Iron Chef was an accident. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMzbwa6PvEE

Your honesty and transparency as an organization is fantastic. Keep up the good work.

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