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316nuts Apr 7, 2016 +6789

why should i use your android app instead of something like listnook is fun, baconreader, listnook news, listnook sync, etc what do you bring to the table that they don't? you're going to have to do some pretty fancy tricks to get me to move away from paid RIF. edit: no mod functions? i'm out. let me know when it gets updated. UI is pretty. i already turned disabled the big image previews because it takes up too much room. compact has thumbnails. not sure why you have the upvotes displayed on the right even though it's on the left for 99% of listnook's pages. i like how it shows the users here and subscribers at the top of a sublistnook when i click on a user name it takes me to *either* posts or comments, why can't i get an overview? the user page only shows one type of karma? weird. do you have the ability to change image settings based on whether or not you're on wifi? that would be nice. the image submission feature is nice - especially how it shows "recent communities" that i've posted to, but i want to be able to navigate in my own library, click on the share icon, and be able to choose your app instead of having to do it all through your app. dunno if that's a big deal, or just habit for me. my image submission is uploading slowly/poorly. is there a file size limit? it's been submitting for awhile now. alright, i tried to upload an image through your app and it took forever, so i cancelled. Sometimes imgur hates when i upload super-big images and i'm usually too lazy to make them smaller. I cropped and make it a smaller file just for the hell of it, which 99.9999% of the time makes imgur happy. aaaaaaaaand i'm still waiting for it to submit. dunno what to say about that, i'll just let it sit here and try to submit for awhile i guess? not sure how i feel about the various fonts mixing it up in my account history section. also personally not a huge fan of it being auto-abbreviated? I get it.. but it's just a bit weird for me. it'll be a BIG deal to a lot of people that they can't see their vote counts here. i kinda like when i'm browsing my front page and i click on an external link that it takes me to the listnook comment section with a preview of the content above. .... or maybe i want to complain about being required to make an extra click to see the full content? hmmmmm. I will say that it doesn't ALWAYS give an image preview, so there are instances where you're kinda forcing me to click on the content twice to see it. i like the comment reply dialog where it shows the original comment at the top and i have a lot of white space at the bottom to work with. Oh.. but when i do that, i can't select the above text to copy/paste? I also don't have the option to quote the text above. I guess i could pre-copy the text before i reply, then click reply, then paste it.. two serious nickpicky things with my inbox. first, it's "messages" and not actually my "default inbox" that's going to be kinda confusing to a lot of people? I moderate places and /messages/ threads all of that stuff in a very weird fashion in there. I get direct messages, modmail, etc all bundled together in a not-fun way. I want to see my direct messages. modmail is REALLY weird. nevermind it's lack of functionality, i can't really see what's even going on? It doesn't open the full modmail or even the full message. When a user is banned, i can't even see who the message is going to. I know your goal isn't to babysit the moderators around here, but it seems to lack basic functionality of being able to read messages at all. [okay sorry, i think i'm done for awhile. didn't mean to edit it 927 times but i did anyway.](http://i.imgur.com/N7FGiSB.jpg). There's a lot of stuff I like about it and look forward to its evolution.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +3660

>why should i use your android app instead of something like listnook is fun, baconreader, listnook news, listnook sync, etc >what do you bring to the table that they don't? Our 3rd party apps are great – they've filled the void during the time when we didn't have apps. If you enjoy those other clients, please keep using them. We're going to focus on making our apps the best they can be for as many Listnookors as we can. That might involve some compromises that don't work for all of our users and we're ok with that. That's why we care about staying committed to our free API. >you're going to have to do some pretty fancy tricks to get me to move away from paid RIF. [like this?](https://d26oc3sg82pgk3.cloudfront.net/files/media/filer_public/2015/07/30/07_summer.gif) >edit: no mod functions? i'm out. let me know when it gets updated. I'll PM you when they're available. >UI is pretty. Thank you! >i already turned disabled image previews because it taks up too much room. Customizability is important to Listnookors. It is known. >not sure why you have the upvotes displayed on the right even though it's on the left for 99% of listnook's pages. You've pointed out a clear example of our bias against r/southpaws. We will be supporting gesture actions for voting soon. >i like how it shows the users here and subscribers at the top of a sublistnook Me too! >when i click on a user name it takes me to either posts or comments, why can't i get an overview? Noted. >the user page only shows one type of karma? weird. We got this into the iOS build at the last minute and didn't quite make it into Android. Different platforms different challenges. We're working hard to get to full feature parity and it will be an ongoing effort. >do you have the ability to change image settings based on whether or not you're on wifi? that would be nice. That's a great idea that we didn't think of. I've noted it. >the image submission feature is nice - especially how it shows "recent communities" that i've posted to, but i want to be able to navigate in my own library, click on the share icon, and be able to choose your app instead of having to do it all through your app. dunno if that's a big deal, or just habit for me. This is coming. >my image submission is uploading slowly/poorly. is there a file size limit? it's been submitting for awhile now. >alright, i tried to upload an image through your app and it took forever, so i cancelled. Sometimes imgur hates when i upload super-big images and i'm usually too lazy to make them smaller. I cropped and make it a smaller file just for the hell of it, which 99.9999% of the time makes imgur happy. aaaaaaaaand i'm still waiting for it to submit. dunno what to say about that, i'll just let it sit here and try to submit for awhile i guess? There is a size limit. We'll be improving image uploading as we learn more about how people are using it. >not sure how i feel about the various fonts mixing it up in my account history section. also personally not a huge fan of it being auto-abbreviated? I get it.. but it's just a bit weird for me. it'll be a BIG deal to a lot of people that they can't see their vote counts here. We will fix that page. In our last submission that page had a bit of a regression. We're moving fast and breaking things. It'll get better. >i kinda like when i'm browsing my front page and i click on an external link that it takes me to the listnook comment section with a preview of the content above. .... or maybe i want to complain about being required to make an extra click to see the full content? hmmmmm. I will say that it doesn't ALWAYS give an image preview, so there are instances where you're kinda forcing me to click on the content twice to see it. Make up your mind! We'll try to make up ours :) >i like the comment reply dialog where it shows the original comment at the top and i have a lot of white space at the bottom to work with. Oh.. but when i do that, i can't select the above text to copy/paste? I also don't have the option to quote the text above. I guess i could pre-copy the text before i reply, then click reply, then paste it.. Good point! We've noted this. >two serious nickpicky things with my inbox. first, it's "messages" and not actually my "default inbox" that's going to be kinda confusing to a lot of people? I moderate places and /messages/ threads all of that stuff in a very weird fashion in there. I get direct messages, modmail, etc all bundled together in a not-fun way. I want to see my direct messages. This is noted. Might not get to it right away though. >modmail is REALLY weird. nevermind it's lack of functionality, i can't really see what's even going on? It doesn't open the full modmail or even the full message. When a user is banned, i can't even see who the message is going to. I know your goal isn't to babysit the moderators around here, but it seems to lack basic functionality of being able to read messages at all. To be frank, it wasn't the highest priority item to make the mod workflow great on the app. I commit to making it better as we go forward. On a broader note we want to save you from having to do so much dirty work.

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316nuts Apr 7, 2016 +780

okay i think i'm kinda done for awhile. You've really done a lot of great work with the app. Many of my comments are "halp this is strange and i'm not used to it", but hey feedback is feedback, right? When it comes down to just putzing around and casual browsing - it has a lovely layout. I will say that i could never get my image to upload. Dunno if that's just me, or a global issue. Thanks and really looking forward to this app maturing and evolving with time!

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +623

Thanks I'm going to get started on a reply to your mega comment now.

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krunchyblack Apr 7, 2016 +37

Seriously, I'm actually much more impressed by the point by point breakdown of the feedback than the app itself. The admins are learning...

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shbooms Apr 7, 2016 +1

just in case you get this I'll throw mine in there after using for the firstime. breaking the inbox into "messages | comments | post replies | mentions" is nice but i think it would make sense to put a little dot or indication where your unread messages are. i.e. I' had 2 unread post replies but after clicking on the message bubble at the bottom with a "2" on it, I get brought to the message tab by default with no indicator that the "2" is in post replies. :)

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1point618 Apr 7, 2016 +98

> To be frank, it wasn't the highest priority item to make the mod workflow great on the app. I commit to making it better as we go forward. On a broader note we want to save you from having to do so much dirty work. I mentioned this yesterday in r/modtalk, but what I'd love is to have a totally different app for moderating. Something that would auto-open to the modqueue, would have all my mod tools easily available, would give me mod actions when I click through to a username, would let me see the sublistnook as it looks like to me as a mod vs. to a non-logged-in account, that kind of thing.

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Sys_init Apr 7, 2016 +23

A toggle between "moderator mode" and normal listnook mode would be sweet

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316nuts Apr 7, 2016 +38

http://i.imgur.com/N7FGiSB.jpg yah sorry, i kinda started and got carried away then i kept getting more carried away, but i think i'm done for awhile... maybe

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PreludesAndNocturnes Apr 7, 2016 +243

Made the jump from Alien Blue. - Please bring back the gesture shortcuts like swiping left on a comment to collapse the whole thread, or two-finger-tap to upvote! - Switching to Compact view appears to work for individual sublistnooks, but my front page is still in Card view? - I miss being able to press + hold on video/gif thumbnails in comments to preview them without leaving the comments Everything else seems like a good start for now. Keep up the good work, I'm sure you guys have more awesome stuff coming

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spez Apr 7, 2016 +85

> Please bring back the gesture shortcuts like swiping left on a comment to collapse the whole thread, or two-finger-tap to upvote! Instead of swipe to collapse, there is a little button in the lower right to skip to the next thread. You can move it around with press-and-hold. Swipe to collapse was my favorite feature ever, and I think this button is a nice improvement. > Switching to Compact view appears to work for individual sublistnooks, but my front page is still in Card view? There is a global preference for compact view as well.

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animatedintro Apr 7, 2016 +15

> or two-finger-tap to upvote! I'm guessing that (this being Listnook) voting is one of the highest priorities, so it should be one of the easiest things to do. On mobile, that means the less aiming, the better. AB was really successful in this regard with the 2/3 finger tap voting. Also, the AB upvote button is on the far right side of the screen at all times. This made it easier to find than the downvote and therefore encouraged upvoting. I'd urge you to at least flip the voting buttons for that reason. Thanks for taking the time to discuss this with us. EDIT: forgot to mention, I'm a fan of night mode, but the bright orange button at the bottom left is extremely distracting, it's always the brightest thing on the screen. I recommend dialing it way back.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +7

Is this feature only on Apple devices right now? I'm on Android and the only button in the lower right of my screen is the red reply button. I'm currently using the default app settings. I do have a collapse button to the left of the username on each comment, but this keeps you in the same overall thread if you're down the page on a post such as this one that has a ton of child comments. The collapse button also crashes my app if I try to use it on a comment with lots of children, though I expect that's not intentional and will get fixed eventually. The skip to next thread button sounds like a nice feature if it is the way I'm envisioning it, where you skip to the next top level parent thread.

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Lakailb87 Apr 7, 2016 +7

> Listnook for iPhone Please bring back full screen mode as well, no need for all the wasted space. On mobile we need to preserve all the screen real estate we can get. Also please bring sublistnook groups, I don't want to search through 170 subs for the 10 that I visit daily. This is a must have for me to switch from Alienblue. Compact view doesn't seem to work for me either on the front page.

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beansjawns Apr 7, 2016 +23

Lack of press+hold to view images/video is the most disappointing. Just took me 3 taps to view a gif, then a tap and a few swipes to get back.

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apollo888 Apr 7, 2016 +2

You. I like you. If this is indicative of how the new management culture encourages honest interaction like this then Listnook is going to be even better in the future. If this is just how *you* are Alex then that's cool too but I hope its not the exception. TBF Spez is pretty forthright too, may not always agree with him but he at least gives the reasoning for decisions. I guess I'm saying that its good that Listnook is getting back to a community feel rather than 'us vs *them*' it feels a bit more like the early days. Thanks!

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_YouDontKnowMe_ Apr 7, 2016 +969

~~Or you could start at the top and work your way down.~~ Edit: I just got 3 months of FREE LISTNOOK GOLD for downloading the app. Thanks and answer the questions whenever and however you want!!! Edit 2: Good God. What the hell is going on here? I just got 2 more golds. I'm starting to think that I'm all that. Edit 3: [I don't know what is going on here with all the gold, but I like it.](https://gfycat.com/PettyBriskDore) Edit 4: [Me now.](https://gfycat.com/EnchantingPresentAfricangoldencat) Edit 5: In total that is ~~8~~ 9 months of gold (3 free and ~~5~~ 6 the old fashioned way). I guess I'm good for the rest of 2016.

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boldfacelies Apr 7, 2016 +247

I got the 3 months of Listnook gold from the download too. My first Listnook gold, from Listnook Corp. :( I don't know if I like that feeling Edit: some non Listnook Corp hooked me up with a legit gold. I'm back, baby! Thank you, kind stranger.

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lostcosmonaut307 Apr 7, 2016 +40

Yeah, that's our "reward" for paying for and dedicating ourselves to an app that they bought just to kill.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +100

> not sure why you have the upvotes displayed on the right even though it's on the left for 99% of listnook's pages. My guess for this is that on a lot of phones (especially phablets), it's difficult/annoying to stretch your thumb all the way to the left side of the screen. It might seem like a minor inconvenience, but people who work in human factors will tell you how quick most people stop doing something once it becomes a bit inconvenient to do. Listnook wants people to upvote/downvote content, and the right side of the screen is most easily accessible with your thumb when you are using a phone one-handed--ergo, they placed the arrows on the right.

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BluegrassGeek Apr 7, 2016 +60

I guess I'm weird. I'm right handed, but use my phone in my left hand. Probably because that's how I grew up reading: hold book in left hand, turn page with right.

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Charwinger21 Apr 7, 2016 +662

Over in the /r/Android thread I noticed that enabling the night mode restarts the app, and makes you lose your place. Are there any plans to fix this issue? In addition, the lack of an AMOLED compatible night mode is fairly annoying. Being able to completely turn off the background pixels saves a substantial amount of battery life, and provides a more comfortable viewing experience for many people. Also, [are you guys using the new Night Mode Library](http://android-developers.blogspot.ca/2016/02/android-support-library-232.html)? If not, it could make things a bit easier for you guys.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +266

Amoled mode is on the short term roadmap. Not restarting the app is a little more complex and we will tackle that too but I can't make any promises about a timeline for that.

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Aikage Apr 7, 2016 +58

I would also like an amoled night theme. I use the night theme in sync for listnook pretty much exclusively for the battery savings I get from amoled.

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beautify Apr 7, 2016 +23

As a non android user I never considered an amoled night mode. Man that's a really awesome point.

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Quinny898 Apr 7, 2016 +3611

"We will continue to support our free public api" Please keep to this, don't pull a Twitter on us <3 Also I've seen quite a few people say the Android version crashes on 4.4.x, just so you know (though chances are you have analytics for this already - I hope)

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +51

u/ggalex this is my issue, I've got android 4.4.2 and it won't open, just crashes right away

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rollmop1 Apr 7, 2016 +8

same here 4.4.4 wont even open, multiple reinstalls still nothing

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +983

Thanks for the feedback! We'll be updating early and often, especially on Android where submitting and releasing is a little bit easier ;) **7PM PT Edit:** We've updated the app to address the 4.4.x crashes as well as the back button issue. Please give it another whirl. Sorry for the bug

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RIPphonebattery Apr 7, 2016 +549

Hi, I just got the iOS version, and I can't dismiss multiple comment notifications from the same comment. for instance if I get 3 replies to this comment, I will only be able to dismiss one of them as read. Closing the app completely is the only way around currently. I suspect the logic for whether or not to mark a reply as read needs a little tweak to fix this. e: The logic probably has a clause like: "If the user has already looked at this comment context" Edit II: Jesus f*** Edit 3: lol got to my desktop, what now bitches

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mrpushpop Apr 7, 2016 +914

commenting just to screw you with your notifications.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +35

Currently I'm on Marshmallow (6.0) and it works great! Just in case anybody wonders.

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I-like-that-color Apr 7, 2016 +484

Looked at the iOS app and I agree with others that the UI is pretty and I like some of the features. However I really wish there were more advanced settings so that I could tailor the app to the way I like it. For example I want to be able to change the way images load or how things look in general. That is why I liked alien blue so much. It let me change it to my preferences Also I'd love to be able to only see about 20 posts at a time and swipe to hide all of those posts and see a new 20. Just like how alien blue pro did it. That way I always see fresh content and I don't have to worry about being 300 posts deep and accidentally scrolling all the way to the top

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beautify Apr 7, 2016 +9

When Listnook had that really static front page issue a while ago I switched to hiding posts that are voted on. This forced me to up or down vote a lot more content but also hides shit I've seen.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +226

Thanks for the feedback! The ticket will be called "The app should work better when you're deep into listnook"

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UnsinkableRubberDuck Apr 7, 2016 +14

Along with organizing and advanced settings, I'd like to be able to organize my subscriptions into folders like in AlienBlue. I don't want to have to sift through a list of over 300 sublistnooks in alphabetical order to find the one I want to go to. In AB, I have a folder with all my favourites and most visited subs at the top so I can get to them faster. Other things from AB that would make me stay there and not use your app regularly: Tap the top bar 3 times and it switches between Night mode and Regular mode. In Night Mode, the big fat orange listnook symbol in the bottom left is bright and not very 'nightly'. Also, the post score and the upvote/downvote buttons are all the same blue as a downvote, when I haven't voted on anything. Why you do this? I don't think the app supports striked out text. When I tap a link, like to a pic, it takes me to the comments, and I don't see a way to click the pic from the front page. It looks to be only accessible from the comments page. Boo. To get to this comment and edit it to add these things, I viewed my profile and clicked the comment, but it took me to the whole thread and I had to scroll down to find my comment and edit it. Takes too long, may seem minor, but it inconvenient enough to annoy. I can't edit directly from my profile's comment page.

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Sexy_Koala_Juice Apr 7, 2016 +25

I agree, i don't like how it doesn't have optimized loading like AlienBlue. Sometimes shit takes forever to load and optimized loading makes it faster.

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NateY3K Apr 7, 2016 +637

The link in this OP didn't work for me on mobile, even putting it in the browser. And when I finally got it, I can't run it. Crashes immediately, I sent in a report For the lazy Android users: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.listnook.frontpage Edit: For those wondering, I had found it on Listnook's twitter. An app announced on Facebook, seemingly invisible on Play Store, was eventually found through a bit.ly link on Twitter. Edit 2: Fixed

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +168

[We're on it](https://www.cirrusinsight.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/typing-gif.gif). Thanks for the feedback.

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Tsiyeria Apr 7, 2016 +24

Piggybacking, since I'm a little late. Running android 4.4.4 on galaxy s4, app won't open.

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AMV Apr 7, 2016 +42

Thank you very much, it didn't work from the original links for me at all. Google store never loaded.

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SyrioForel Apr 7, 2016 +74

Crashes immediately for me too on Samsung Galaxy S3.

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Copperhe4d Apr 7, 2016 +1121

Hi, why is the Android app not available for people outside the U.S.? Will you close down or restrict API's for third party developers of listnook clients like Twitter did?

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +699

We're available today in the US, Canada, UK, and Australia. Launching apps in other countries requires a little bit more diligence than just making a website available globally, but we're committed to getting it out everywhere. In the meantime you can continue to use our [mobile optimized website](http://m.listnook.com) and any of our awesome 3rd party clients. We will continue to support our open and free API. So many of the amazing things that help make Listnook special come from our developer community, including all of the listnook clients that are available already in both stores. edit: Countries can lean on Google and Apple and say "Get this app out of my country." We are rolling out one by one so that we can stay on top of the content reports. Listnook has a lot of potentially controversial content and countries have various levels of sensitivity to that. It would be counter productive to go global now, get banned in a bunch of places, and then have to fight protracted battles in a bunch of different places to get back into those stores.

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Randyy1 Apr 7, 2016 +189

> Launching apps in other countries requires a little bit more diligence than just making a website available globally Can you please explain? I'm not familiar with launching apps at all, can I get an ELI5?

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depressed_space_cat Apr 7, 2016 +164

My hunch is that they, like a bunch of other developers I encountered, don't want to launch the app in other countries before they localize the UI. Which is silly, because if you use listnook chances are you already speak English. I've talked to a bunch of developers in the past who purposefully banned all users in countries where English is not the primary language just because they assumed people will flood them with complaints that the app is not translated. This is, of course, very silly. People who live in countries with less common languages are already used to stuff not being translated to their native langauge, and most of them are perfectly capable of using English UIs. Most of the people I know prefer English UIs even when the software they use *has* translations to their native language.

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_selfishPersonReborn Apr 7, 2016 +81

Can confirm, am Spanish from birth but I will barely ever use a Spanish UI for anything.

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MrDeMS Apr 7, 2016 +57

Can confirm the confirmation, am Spanish living in Spain, I always used all my gadgets and computers in English, much easier to troubleshoot when things go wrong if you don't have to guess how someone translated something complex or technical, and you usually get more support.

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JorgeGT Apr 7, 2016 +32

As another Spaniard, "guess what this terrible technical EN->ES translation really meant" is almost an art. But not only that: many localizations bring with them encoding issues, decimal separator issues, etc.

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qtx Apr 7, 2016 +150

> edit: Countries can lean on Google and Apple and say "Get this app out of my country." We are rolling out one by one so that we can stay on top of the content reports. Listnook has a lot of potentially controversial content and countries have various levels of sensitivity to that. It would be counter productive to go global now, get banned in a bunch of places, and then have to fight protracted battles in a bunch of different places to get back into those stores. That's kind of a bs answer tbh. Listnook apps are available all over the world, I haven't heard of a single country asking Google to remove a listnook app. If anything the only reason why Google would remove something was over copyright infringement. Leaving out Europe, South America, Africa & Asia is a stupid thing to do. And making things only available to certain regions will turn your (app) users against you.

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zazazam Apr 7, 2016 +47

> making things only available to certain regions will turn your (app) users against you. No, it just means that users in those regions will forget about the app. Nobody is going to bother checking daily/weekly/monthly/yearly to see if their region has reached Listnook's approval. Unsurprisingly the app didn't last 1 hour front-page HN. It is beyond the second page now. The official Listnook app is officially dead-on-arrival. You don't launch twice. For anyone affected by this, there are many great alternatives: I heard Antenna is great on iOS, and I can vouch for Sync on Android and Listnook is Fun on WinPhone.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +18

It's still on place 4 on the front page. But as a EU second class world citizen, you're right, I'll have forgotten about this long ago and probably won't care anymore once it's finally available.

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adrianmonk Apr 7, 2016 +6

> If anything the only reason why Google would remove something was over copyright infringement. That's not the *only* reason. There's a whole list of [developer policies](https://play.google.com/about/developer-content-policy.html). Restricted content is even on that list. For example, Google Play doesn't allow p*** apps, and I think some of the third-party Listnook apps may have been affected by this. (And there may be one or two additional things in the [Developer Distribution Agreement](https://play.google.com/about/developer-distribution-agreement.html).) But basically you are right: none of those things would apply to Listnook's app. And even if they did, there's nothing in those policies that requires Listnook to restrict their app to certain countries.

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moreluckthanbrain Apr 7, 2016 +221

> Listnook has a lot of potentially controversial content and countries have various levels of sensitivity to that. It would be counter productive to go global now, get banned in a bunch of places, and then have to fight protracted battles in a bunch of different places to get back into those stores. I'm from Germany. I have used listnook.com from Germany forever. I downloaded AlienBlue in English from the German App Store to browse English listnook content. I don't get this argumentation at all. I don't see how it depends on the content which is already available from the website or third party clients.

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mgroot Apr 7, 2016 +88

I'm not buying this explanation either, I'm from the Netherlands and we hardly ban anything here (even the piratebay got unblocked). Our laws are definitely more lax than those in the UK where they have the p*** filter e.g.

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AlderLyncurium Apr 7, 2016 +62

>We are rolling out one by one so that we can stay on top of the content reports. Listnook has a lot of potentially controversial content and countries have various levels of sensitivity to that. It would be counter productive to go global now, get banned in a bunch of places, and then have to fight protracted battles in a bunch of different places to get back into those stores. I am sorry /u/ggAlex but this doesn't look like a legit, honest, answer — specially with US, Canada, UK and Australia as the first tandem of countries, when all they have in common is their first language. I strongly doubt that other countries inside the European Union would have more sensitivity than the UK. And yet, it is fine with the US? I am sorry, but this doesn't add up.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +333

>We will continue to support our open and free API This is all I needed to read in order to support your app.

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markgraydk Apr 7, 2016 +40

Can you provide us with a release schedule for various countries? If not, what countries are you prioritising first? I get why a limited release might make it easier for you but do know that you have a lot of users all over the world and many of these countries should not cause much concern.

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Diplomjodler Apr 7, 2016 +13

> Countries can lean on Google and Apple and say "Get this app out of my country." And it would have been too hard to get an intern to put together a list of unproblematic countries? Like all of Europe? I promise, they won't ban you here.

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kjartanbj Apr 7, 2016 +14

This is extremely annoying, too many apps that developers skip most countries , I am 100% certain that for example you wouldn't have any problems allowing the app to be downloaded in Iceland ... we are always left out , have to get so many apps by some other ways than the app stores

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anon_smithsonian Apr 7, 2016 +118

^(2,000 comments and counting... Not sure if this will ever be seen, but I'm going to throw it out there, anyways...) As I think the many other comments have pointed out: the official listnook app has a ***long*** way to go in order to catch up with the features, options, functionality, customization, etc., as the many other third-party listnook apps out there already offer. I know you've already stated that you "care about staying committed to [listnook's] free API". That makes me happy to hear. ***However***, one thing I ***really, really, really*** don't want to see is the old Microsoft "EEE" move: * ***E****mbrace*: "We now have an official listnook client app!" * ***E****xtend*: Add listnook features and functionality to the official listnook app that can't be used or accessed through the public API * ***E****xtinguish*: Now, because of all of the exclusive features and functionality that only the official listnook app can offer, basically force users to use the official one. I think it's great that listnook has moved to offer its own, official listnook client—that has long-been a huge demographic of potential revenue that listnook had left virtually untapped—but please do not exploit any shady techniques of forcing adoption of **your** app—and ***only*** your app—to do this. I want to think listnook is classier than this... but I just felt it was worth saying it, just in case. --- **tl;dr**: don't start adding listnook features and functionality to the official app that aren't supported or accessible through the public API in order to force users to use the official app for those features because nobody else can offer them.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +42

I see you :) It will be hard to keep up with the comments but I will read every top comment like I said. I appreciate your feedback and understand your concern. Let me share with you what we believe and why we're doing this. We build and design software. It is our craft. We're a team of proud makers – and as makers, we feel compelled to bring you the best stuff that we can make. Thats what we're doing with our apps. We will be happy if you use them because they're great, not because we've crippled our own developer ecosystem. Check out our favorite features like the Speed Read button on iPhone, Material Design on Android and Sublistnook Customization on both apps. We're going to keep adding new features and making it better. If the 3rd party ecosystem builds those features too, that's great for everyone.

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anon_smithsonian Apr 7, 2016 +23

Thank you for taking the time to reply! I honestly wasn't expecting it, but it's great that you are making such an effort to read and respond to people's feedback and concerns! > We will be happy if you use them because they're great, not because we've crippled our own developer ecosystem. I'm glad to see you say that. Though, the thing is, I don't actually believe that listnook will *cripple* its own developer ecosystem—as in removing or limiting any of the existing functionality—but my concern is more about letting the current developer ecosystem/public API *stagnate* while the official app gets new and different **API** functionality. One example I can think of would be like with the new addition to sublistnook configs to specify mobile-specific sublistnook settings/colors/etc.—settings and such which are clearly being reflected within the official listnook app—but are those things that ***other*** apps could currently access through the API? I currently don't see anything on the [listnook API documentation for it](https://www.listnook.com/dev/api)... That is the kind of thing I'm referring to: adding new listnook functionality that is ***specifically*** for mobile users, but not giving third-parties any way to access that same information through the API. Kind of like the whole [announcement about i.listnookuploads.com](https://www.listnook.com/r/modnews/comments/4drl3j/moderators_ilistnookuploadscom_is_legitimate_you/): when asked if they will be making this API accessible to users, the answer was something along the lines of "well, possible... we need to make sure the API is something we nail down and feel like we got right, first"... so here is a new feature/functionality that the official listnook app uses, but nobody else. Though, in this situation, an argument could be made given its nature of being an image host and the upload/overhead costs... but I ***really, really*** hope this doesn't become a common theme: the official listnook app gets a new site-based feature/functionality; when asked if there will be an API for the same functionality for third-party apps to use, the answer is "well we're still working on this so maybe once we get it finished and everything else just right." > Check out our favorite features like the Speed Read button on iPhone, Material Design on Android and Sublistnook Customization on both apps. We're going to keep adding new features and making it better. If the 3rd party ecosystem builds those features too, that's great for everyone. I think having listnook come into the picture with their own, official Android application could be good, in many ways: it could definitely force third-party developers to continue to innovate and add new features and functionality in order to stay competitive with the listnook application. Hopefully this will lead to ***better*** listnook clients for ***everyone***... but I would really just like to see listnook playing fairly, here, and not use the "homefield advantage" of having access to different server calls that aren't made available to third-parties.

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ggAlex Apr 8, 2016 +9

I love a good conversation. Thanks for bringing up good points. Listnook is going to experiment with a lot of things in the future. Let's use Sublistnook Customization as an example. Sublistnook Customization actually *is* available in the API and you can see that in the source code, but it's not documented. We consider it an experiment. We're not ready to say that we've figured it out completely and that this will be the only way that subs get to express themselves on mobile going forward. We may learn from this launch that the way we've done it needs to fundamentally change due to feedback from users or mods. Maybe subs need more customization. Maybe subs end up using it in a way we didn't think of that breaks our sites and app. Maybe the way it's done is non performant. Maybe not enough subs even end up using it. There's a very small chance that we got everything just right. But because we've put it in the API and developers might be using it now, we're going to have to move slower when we do decide to improve it. Why didn't we document it? We wanted to limit the amount of developers who would come to rely on it. We need time to think about how to design a sensible API so we don't confused new 3rd party devs (it's in a weird endpoint called about/edit which doesn't make a ton of sense). We need to get it stable. Heck, we need to make sure users even want us to do it. Once we've done all that, we can document it and provide long term support so devs can build without fear of having the rug pulled out from underneath them. Many 3rd party apps are powered by one person building in their spare time. Stable APIs are important. All the above is me admitting that you're partially right. You're right that we will go slower to API with experimental features. But where I think you're wrong is about how bad it will be for the ecosystem. Just because Listnook.app has an experimental feature for a little while (which might ultimately go away!) doesn't mean the 3rd party devs will suffer. Case in point – 3rd party devs have already implemented some parts of the public API that our own internal mobile team couldn't get to like Sublistnook Rules! Not all apps will have all the features all the time, not even our own. Stable features will eventually make it into the API and get documentation as much as is practically possible. Please give us time to figure out what works. I hope that helps.

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anon_smithsonian Apr 8, 2016 +6

Wow, thanks for the detailed reply! I ***do*** understand what you are saying about the sublistnook customization API; I didn't mean to imply that it *was never* going to be included (or documented), but it was just the most useful example I could think of to elaborate my concerns. How about considering a separate API section for listing the various experimental features—ones that may change or be removed at any moment—that developers can use at their own risk? I think it would go a long way towards demonstrating listnook's commitment to its API and third-party partners... by showing "hey, these are the things we're still working on and trialling... they may change, but in the interest of disclosure, here you go. Use at your own risk." (Hell, it might even be helpful for getting additional feedback on them or finding issues with them if you have more developers working with them.) >All the above is me admitting that you're partially right. You're right that we will go slower to API with experimental features. But where I think you're wrong is about how bad it will be for the ecosystem. I hope you didn't misunderstand me: I didn't mean to imply that it **would** be bad, but I just see the potential for how it *could*, depending on how things unfold, going forward. If listnook maintains its support for its API, **without discrimination towards third-party apps over their own**, I think having an official listnook app could be *really good* for the ecosystem and force developers to keep improving and not getting complacent. I think the competition with help drive innovation on **all** fronts... but my main concern is that listnook could use its "home field advantage" to give itself an edge with access to API features that other apps aren't given. I know that listnook is out there to make a profit, and it's a reasonable move for listnook to go with an official listnook app to try and capture some of this **huge** market that it had essentially left untapped for years, but also remember that most listnookors have been using their third-party app of choice for years and developed a certain amount of loyalty to it: if those users get the impression that listnook isn't playing nicely with third-party developers, anymore, in order to drive adoption of the official listnook app, you may very likely anger a ***lot*** of users... *especially* if the official app is lacking the numerous features that they've come to expect. All in all, I'm happy—though a little wary—to see listnook moving into the mobile space because it could lead to much better experiences for **all** users, regardless of which app they prefer. I think the official listnook app has a long way to go before it will win over users of most existing third party apps, though, but I'm guessing this release was the MVP—Minimum Viable Product—and there is a lot more in store for it, so I'm curious to see what lies ahead. But thank you: thank you for taking the time to respond to my concerns and thank you for all of the work you guys have done with the listnook app (and with listnook, as a whole). I think there's plenty of room in the mobile listnook sphere for the official listnook app to play along nicely with the third-party stuff that's already out there; I only ask that you guys don't leave the public API and third-party apps out in the cold in favor of working on the official app. Thanks again!

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ggAlex Apr 8, 2016 +9

I used to be a software engineer that relied on OSS for my livelihood. I used edge branches of my favorite frameworks all the time. Listnook is not ready to announce how our API/platform is going to shape up but you've presented some ideas that I've personally thought about a lot. I understand why you are pointing out what *could* be bad for the ecosystem. I also understand why people might be skeptical if we say "it *could* be bad but it wont be bad, trust us." Give us some time and we'll prove it to you. Thanks for the convo!

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Ixius Apr 7, 2016 +61

I, and I think many of the mobile-Listnook-browsing community, will be sticking with other clients for the moment. This is a nice proof-of-concept so far, but it's near the bottom of the heap in terms of user experience, compared to plenty other apps (which, by the way, tend not to be monetised by way of intrusive advertisement). There's loads of great commentary and feedback on this thread alone, but because the app was released hours before the official announcement, discussion about the app has been scattered to the four winds, and it'll be difficult finding a plurality of early adopter feedback. I use (and, until Listnook's official app is improved, will probably continue to use) Alien Blue on iOS. Over on /r/AlienBlue, there are plenty of users dedicating time to outlining current problems, oversights, and confusing design choices. Here are a couple: * /u/Captain_Alaska put together [a list of issues](https://www.listnook.com/r/AlienBlue/comments/4dq5x8/listnook_for_ios_is_out/d1tbll1) that become apparent when comparing Listnook's app to Alien Blue. * The [unofficial discussion thread](https://www.listnook.com/r/AlienBlue/comments/4dqajk/new_listnook_app_discussion_thread/) has covered plenty of what seem to be weird design choices, measuring pros (e.g., the UI and smooth performance) against cons (e.g., that obnoxious, omnipresent, bright orange button). People are also taking up the feedback banner on /r/listnookmobile, which might be the official sublistnook, but also might not. Overall, at the moment, I think early adopters are confused as to why great, always-useful features that have been present in apps like Alien Blue (which, remember, was the official Listnook app for a little bit) forever are missing from the Listnook mobile app. Users were expecting improvement on - or at least parity with - something like Alien Blue, and that just isn't what we have at the minute! To reiterate, I think the current app (at least on iOS) is a good proof of concept. It looks nice, performs well, and comes with the healthy incentive of free Listnook gold (whether or not this is just to delay the inevitable glut of complaints about intrusive, in-line ads). It's just unfortunate that, for the moment, the app isn't quite as good as the alternatives. *Edit*: I'd like to point out that /u/ggAlex is being super constructive right now ([check out his ongoing reply to /u/316nuts](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/4dqxgt/listnook_mobile_apps/d1thcgd)), and that I hope the rest of the Listnook team take his example of frank, open communication with the central audience for their official app!

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thatscentaurtainment Apr 7, 2016 +13

>compared to plenty other apps (which, by the way, tend not to be monetised [sic] by way of intrusive advertisement). This very important point is getting lost entirely in this thread. It is painfully clear that listnook ditched Alien Blue so that they could push ads to mobile users who have been avoiding them for years. Luckily I had Alien Blue pro so got four free years of Gold (which, as you say, removes adds as a way to stem the tide of complaints about ads that cannot simply be shut off like on the desktop with extensions such as uBlock Origin), but it's kind of gross that listnook is using their money to buy up non-affiliated mobile apps and then tank them in favor of their own ad-filled one. Please prove me wrong /u/ggAlex.

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Ixius Apr 7, 2016 +10

Yeah. It's clearly in Listnook's commercial interest to monetise mobile traffic that comes in through their APIs. They haven't really done this before, except on Alien Blue for iPad, which users were pretty vocally against. The early goals for the app, no doubt, were to create the platform into which ads could be slotted. Extra features (like mod tools, etc.) come after the revenue model is in place. Cleverly, Listnook have anticipated that early adopters are probably the group who spend enough time on Listnook to *also* be fine with criticising Listnook, often loudly. So; giving out gold early shuts people up in the short-term (at least for long enough for others to start picking up the app), and helps normalise the official Listnook app as a decent way to browse Listnook. In most cases, I'd be fine with Listnook monetising their app, but (if Alien Blue for iPad is any indication) they have a truly awful approach to mobile advertisements, from a user perspective: ads are slotted in between normal user-submitted content. If this is how Listnook mobile is going to work, it's an intrusive, ugly, and distracting way to monetise. Most importantly, even when Listnook mobile reaches feature parity with something "obsolete" like Alien Blue, this advertisement policy is going to make sure that Listnook users who don't have gold are going to have *absolutely no reason* to use the Listnook mobile app over others.

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ggAlex Apr 8, 2016 +10

Thanks for collecting the feedback in one place. Very helpful. I've saved this comment. Thank you also for your nice words in the edit. We aren't at feature parity and probably won't ever get there. We actually want to develop newer but fewer features overall. We want more elegant solutions that solve multiple problems without bloating the experience or being hidden and hard to discover. Example: I think the speed read button is more discoverable and therefore better for users than swipe to collapse tree. We want to focus on building things like that.

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coonwhiz Apr 8, 2016 +3

Is there a speed read button on Android? I can't seem to find anything like it.

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toomanyphones Apr 7, 2016 +370

When will (or will there ever be) multi Listnook support for iOS and Android? This is the only feature holding me back from using these full time. If multi reedit support is coming, it's really important to sort easily or even save the sort preference. I always use new but I'm sure others may be different.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +164

All I'll say is that our mobile product designer u/acidtwist has hundreds of subscriptions and dozens of multis :)

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letseatpaste Apr 7, 2016 +120

Multi was the first thing I looked for, can't believe this isn't top comment. Do people really not use multi-listnooks that often? I remember being a bit confused by it when it came out, but it was pretty wonderful to use once I tried it.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +26

As a relatively new listnookor.... what's so good about multi ' s? What do you use them for? Why is it better to group them up instead of just subscribing to them all individually?

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Specken_zee_Doitch Apr 7, 2016 +19

My usage case is that I have a few core interests: Motorcycles, Investing, IT, and photography. Within these categories are dozens of sublistnooks and so I made a multi of each one. Motorcycles includes everything from /r/motorcycles and /r/motorcycleporn to /r/calamariraceteam. I can see an intermingling of all my favorite subs that are *actually related* but might be themselves slightly different in purpose and culture.

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gamebox3000 Apr 7, 2016 +37

I set them up in categories, if i didnt I would have 500+ sublistnooks I would only see pop up once a month on my front page.

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aladyjewel Apr 7, 2016 +9

I group sublistnooks into multis by related topics. When I want to read about apps for listnook to see if bugs are showing up for everyone, I visit /u/andytuba/m/listnookapps. When I want lots of cute animal pictures, I visit /u/andytuba/m/aww. This helps make sure I see content I'm interested in even when the sublistnooks don't show up on the 50 subs currently showing on my frontpage. For more examples, /r/multihub.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +117

To be honest with you, not many people do. But the people who DO use it LOVE it.

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hatts Apr 7, 2016 +58

That's really surprising to me! It's really powerful to be able to look at my front page and browse it like a generalized daily feed, and then think to myself "ok let's get super srs" and open up my curated multilistnook full of mostly profession-related niche sublistnooks. It's like giving yourself a whole new listnook...

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +24

It is a very powerful feature which is why people love it so much. It does require a certain amount of effort to get it all working and wonderful the way you've set it up. The effort alone means it's going to get a small % of people doing it.

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FigMcLargeHuge Apr 7, 2016 +5

Put me on the list of people who not only use it but almost require it. This needs to be pushed up pretty high on the list as r/all without the gold or res feature of being able to filter subs is infuriating to me. Multilistnooks are the only way I have been able to browse. And they need to be accessible at the top. I posted about this earlier and then found this discussion on them.

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FolkSong Apr 7, 2016 +37

Multis are a core part of Listnook for me, an app with no multi support is worthless.

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geoman2k Apr 7, 2016 +235

The messages section needs a lot of work. Why is there no typographic distinction between headings and body content? Why is it truncated at one line? Why does it not show me the post title the comment is from or sublistnook? Just seems sloppy to me. Listnook App: http://i.imgur.com/h8npMZk.png Sync For Listnook: http://i.imgur.com/1QGA2nu.png

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +84

This page had a bit of a UI regression in one of our last releases. We'll fix this ASAP.

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duckvimes_ Apr 7, 2016 +559

Will this one have the same neglect we've come to know and love with Alien Blue? Edit: ~~most recent comments don't show up via messages tab:~~ never mind, just confusingly labelled Edit 2: wait, no easy imgur uploads in comments? Boo

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +289

We've rebuilt these from the ground up specifically so that we can support them with a much more frequent release cadence.

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duckvimes_ Apr 7, 2016 +198

Good to hear. Two questions: 1. Will we get easy imgur uploads in comments (and posts if it's not there, haven't tried yet)? 2. Can we get two-finger upvotes, like Alien Blue?

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +1138

We really need blue and purple links, please! How am I supposed to know what I already know if Listnook won't let me know what I learned today?

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taitbp Apr 7, 2016 +45

Agreed, that was the first thing I noticed. I definitely want it differentiating between links I've clicked on and what I haven't. I probably won't be moving off Alien Blue until this is fixed in the App even though the rest of it looks and feels nice.

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NeoHenderson Apr 7, 2016 +120

But in comments we need something. There's nothing worse than looking through a train of dank memes and you tap on the same one twice. It really ruins the magic

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matty2013 Apr 7, 2016 +137

Will there be a way of removing the images that show up in compact view? I like to browse by titles, which also leaves room for more links on my screen

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +110

Yes – we will be making compact view more customizable including options for allowing thumbnails on the right and no thumbnails at all.

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WhiteyDude Apr 7, 2016 +61

I'm really curious why this isn't the default. The main website, designed for the desktop computer, doesn't load full screen preview images and make you scroll a half page down for every submission. Why would listnook think people would want this on the mobile app? (or the mobile page, which does the same thing!! )? It's just so backwards. On my phone I have less screen real estate and I'm more concerned with bandwidth usage from loading tons of images. This goes completely against the simplistic design that has made listnook so successful. I just don't get it. I've installed the app and will poke around some more, but so far I still like "listnook is fun" better.

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matty2013 Apr 7, 2016 +14

Great news, thanks that's exactly what I was looking for. Looking forward to the new app progress updates :)

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TheBadProgrammer Apr 7, 2016 +78

Since you've been on listnook as long as I have, then you know that part of listnook culture is open source. I've seen a disturbing trend away from that; I'm not even sure the listnook of today would be open source, which is what worries me and what I'm not seeing here either. What are your plans to open source? It's in the listnook culture and tradition. Is everyone making too much money now? Part of the reason listnook is so popular with such a loyal userbase is because it open sourced its tools. It's gotten so bad that when someone simply asks about source code without moralizing, they are downvoted and mocked. Without the source code, we don't know what these apps are doing, what data they are collecting, what information you're storing and discarding, and worst of all, there is no guarantee of security. I sincerely hope you haven't completely turned your backs on the very users who created Rich Ass Listnook. Please don't be like every other "success" story.

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rschaosid Apr 8, 2016 +18

I did a double take skimming this announcement: a proprietary app and the post doesn't even *mention* licensing? I mean, seriously, admins, this is listnook...you didn't honestly think you could get away with— *scrolls through twenty pages of comments to get to the first one that mentions source code* —oh.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +16

Thanks for the feedback. Amoled mode is coming; collapsing animation bug is filed; probably wont color code comment thread levels but can find another solution that helps differentiate; Would an option for external link in overflow work for you?; More compactness is not on the short term roadmap, but what if scroll performance was better would that help?; Sorting is not coming soon; That's a UI bug that we have filed, should get fixed soonish; That's a bug that we didn't catch so thanks for sharing – you should be able to tap on the little text that reads "i.imgur.com" to open the website.

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Xilient Apr 7, 2016 +14

What I have noticed that is lacking or broken on the Android app. Tested on Galaxy Note 4 running 5.0.1 * Scrolling can hang and be 'clunky' sometimes in card view * When in compact view I can't directly open the picture by tapping on it. It goes to comments - wasted tap. * Only provides a simple comment writing system - no live preview, no buttons for bold, italics, superscript, bullets, tables, etc. (Something that every Listnook app needs - looking at you, Listnook is Fun) [Another app for example](http://i.imgur.com/pItC52U.png) * Poor color choices in sublistnook sidebar when in night mode [Screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/MG5Y9L0.png) * Certain sublistnook's top bar colors don't work well with the icons/text [Screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/kx12Naa.png) * App crashes when opening a sublistnook Wiki link - looks like there is no wiki support. It should at least open it in an internal browser, but wiki support would be good in the official app. [Screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/eWVgdOR.png) * Imgur links are overwhelmingly opening in the browser - no imgur support? [Screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/3JbjB8O.png) * Name of poster not visible without opening post * Bothers me that voting arrows are side-by-side rather than stacked vertically. Not terribly important but felt worth mentioning. [Listnook is Fun GP for reference](http://i.imgur.com/7HzV5vn.png) * When in light mode, posts [look like this](http://i.imgur.com/tAjdgRV.jpg). When in night mode, posts [look like this](http://i.imgur.com/kKYi1MS.jpg). Notice how light mode has a different color for the title than the information, whereas all text is the same color in night mode. The difference in contrast is important and night mode should have something similar. * No AMOLED mode (primarily black rather than gray) * Community information could be a slide from the right of screen to open an actual side bar * When in certain sublistnooks, the color of the top "nav bar" can be very distracting, especially considering it is always visible [as shown in this screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/SqmLs2n.png). Perhaps an option to hide it when scrolling down? * While on the frontpage/all if you want to jump to a posts' sublistnook you need to tap on the tiny little text on the post that tells what the sublistnook is. A combination of large fingers and smaller screens could make this difficult. I would add an additional "Jump to sublistnook option" in the context menu (3 vertical dots) on each post. * If gold is the only way to remove adds then that is garbage. I will gladly pay a couple bucks to remove them, but not monthly. That is how you ensure nobody uses the app. Giving people 3 months of gold means **we now have no idea how intrusive they may or may not be for three months**. This is not how you convince people to switch *or* buy listnook gold. **[See edit at bottom of comment]** * Edit: Some subs have images you can imbed in comments (called comment faces on /r/anime for example, some are even animated). These never show up in any app, which is fine because it's non essential, but it would really set the app apart. Just a few suggestions I've found - keep up the good work! Edit: I was alerted that you can test ads by logging out. I've noticed some "sponsored" posts being injected between them occasionally throughout listnook. Very non-intrusive if that's all it is. I stand by my point, however, that paying monthly for gold shouldn't be the only way to get ad-free and I still favor the traditional "pro/ad-free " up-front payment model.

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codeverity Apr 7, 2016 +63

First of all, as an AB user thank you for the gold and I'm sure you guys have been working hard on this. That being said, you guys are missing some stuff: - no way to easily hide posts from the feed - no content filter - no way to view votes from comment page - no way to get to all comments from viewing individual comment - seems like notifications doesn't highlight what you're getting as a notification - seems like I have to refresh to see my newest comments on the comments page I hope these are things you guys plan on adding!

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dsmader Apr 7, 2016 +60

Getting "3 months of free Listnook Gold' for downloading the app seems to mean that for the first 3 months we'll have an ad-free experience. Then what? How will ads be incorporated into the app experience? Feels a little like a bait and switch.

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LionBum Apr 7, 2016 +116

Great job with the app! Looks really nice, especially the sublistnook headers.

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ggAlex Apr 7, 2016 +86

This is one of my favorite features. I can't wait to see how all the mods make their communities feel unique. Make sure to check out how r/starwars, r/earthporn, and r/asklistnook use it today!

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XenoBen Apr 7, 2016 +107

Will mod tools be coming into Listnook for iOS?

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I_FUCK_SLUTS Apr 7, 2016 +12

Hi Guys! I'm hyped for the new app and am glad you've decided to take it in your own direction, just thought I'd share some first impression thoughts. Pros: Beautiful UI, really looks smart and "fits" the iOS feel really well. I love the card view and being able to view all (nearly) of the content on the front page which is a big deal for me Cons: Gifs are displayed with a "play" symbol over them on the card view, which leads me to think that they would play right there on the page or at least open up iOS' video viewer like they do on Alien Blue, but instead it reloads the imgur link and just takes me to imgur. There should be a way imo to let users play gifs on the card view directly, it saves a lot of time and is really the reason I don't think I'll be transitioning from AB right away. Congratulations again on your App launch, listnook!

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MrRadstache Apr 7, 2016 +21

I'm digging the new app. The only thing that I've grown to love from Now For Listnook App is the colour coded coded strip to the left of the comments to be able to easily tell which responses come after what. Its not a big deal but it does help when some threads become so huge. And doesn't take up too much room so later comments don't look to squashed. But good work! Thanks!

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ashella Apr 7, 2016 +9

I appreciate the color coded strip that Bacon Reader has as well. Additionally, the collapse button on the new app is too tiny for me. In Bacon Reader I can click anywhere on the comment to collapse the comments after it. Thanks for the 3 months of gold, I'll definitely be exploring the new app more!

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ballin865 Apr 7, 2016 +8

Pulling your canary, then finally making your own listnook app. That's a bold strategy Cotton.

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greyjackal Apr 7, 2016 +10

I'll give it a shot, but it's going to have to be pretty special to oust Relay.

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PM_ME_KOREAN_FOOD Apr 7, 2016 +5

Amazing timing. Just last night I was searching the web for the best listnook iOS app besides Aliens, which I'm using right now and the layout is pretty funky. Thanks!

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thatsabbs Apr 7, 2016 +6

What about a search bar for you saved folder? It's so difficult scrolling through it all trying to find links from the past

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ThatSteeve Apr 7, 2016 +8

I would say welcome to listnook but you're not really new! Sneaky! ;) Best of luck. I hope that an iPad version, or universal, is in the works?

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creesch Apr 7, 2016 +135

Not available in my country? What the hell?

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Fadedtodark Apr 7, 2016 +2

First and foremost, I'd like to simply say that the 3 months of Listnook Gold is very much appreciated; it really does seem like a nice incentive to get people to test-drive the application in its current state on both the iOS and Android platforms. In the time that I've taken the new app for a spin (Android platform here), ~~I think I've only got one major question to ask as it seems to come up in the Play Store reviews:~~ ~~I've got two Android phones (HTC One M8 running a custom ROM of Android 6.0 and a LG G3 Vigor still running Android 4.4) and Listnook refuses to load on the latter of the two phones due to the firmware being 4.4. **With the current build, are there any issues with trying to run the application on 4.4? If so, are there any plans to fix this for devices that are still on 4.4?** I only ask this because every time I've tried to start the application, I am immediately booted back to my home-screen due to it crashing. Upgrading the phone's firmware isn't a viable option solely due to the facts that:~~ ~~* Sprint has not pushed a new firmware to the phone as of yet nor do I know if a new firmware update will come to the G3 Vigor.~~ ~~* Due to Sprint's recent patches patching the Stagefright exploit, AFAIK the root tools used for rooting the Vigor no longer work. Even if a root was available for said phone, a very small amount of custom ROMs exist and are built off of KitKat and not Lollipop or Marshmallow.~~ ~~With that being said, I was able to test the app on my HTC One M8 which is what I will base my observations off of.~~ While I don't have an iOS-driven device to note the similarities or subtle differences that might exist, I've got to say that I do like the UI that is presented to me on the Android version aside from some minor gripes which I'll get into. I enjoy the fact that while I'm skimming through my sublistnooks list, I'm presented with their respective "logos or icons" in tandem with the name of each sublistnook. While I like the concept, the distracting thing to me is when certain sublistnooks don't utilize this in their theme thus reverting it back to the default look. It isn't a major gripe per se but more so, again just distracting to me. This next one is more so a nitpick for me and other users but the placement of the upvotes/downvotes kind of threw me for a loop. It isn't a deal-breaker in my opinion but I'd like to know what the design choice was to go with the buttons on the bottom right as opposed to taking an approach similarly to Sync where clicking on a comment brings up those options. In the same regards however, the positive to this is that all of the information that I want to see (i.e. how many upvotes a user got on their comment, etc) is nice and neatly tucked away from things like a user's flair while reading their comments in their respective sublistnook. Speaking of flairs, and this might just be me being on a phone as opposed to a tablet but on sublistnooks like /r/pcmasterrace where people can post their hardware specifications or their SteamIDs; the flairs are not shown in full like they are on 3rd party clients. Again, this might just be me not tinkering around enough with the application to get user flairs to show in full but it is kind of annoying having to switch back and forth between Sync or another 3rd party client or the desktop variant to the official application to be able to see what people have put down in that particular section after subscribing to a sublistnook. Nightmode as a whole hasn't been an issue for me aside from the fact that my username text blends in with the blue color when swiping from the left of the screen to bring up things like settings or my other subscribed sublistnooks. Perhaps we could add some option to either change the color from blue to other color or the username text so people don't have to squint or strain their eyes trying to read which account they are on? Also, ALOMED would be nice to see in a future update. Comments as a whole. I'm more inclined to honestly use 3rd party clients because of two reasons: 1. The spacing between comments and responses in any given discussion just seems like a waste of space in my opinion. Anyone can disagree with me if they want to but in my time using Sync, I've come to quite enjoy the fact that there is no given part of screen real estate that goes to waste because of the subtle amount of spacing there is to discern between a main comment and the responses that follow underneath it. The official app seems to start off nice with the way that comments are presented but then it just ends up in the middle of my screen. It might have been the design choice chosen but it'd be nice to see screen real estate being used to its fullest potential regardless of screen size whether it's through a feature or a redesign. 2. The color scheme. While reading through comments, the color scheme of things like account names and "view x more comments" mesh with each other making it hard to discern between the two. It would be nice to see a feature where we could possibly change the color of the latter to make the overall viewing experience better. EDIT #1: This originally was supposed to be longer but a misclick posted my comment before I was aptly finished. Messages. Messages are hard to discern between user to user whereas 3rd party clients make it a bit easier to manage. I personally have not tested the imgur features but the one thing that I've taken notice to is that when clicking on a gallery that is posted when a thread is created, it pushes me to the actual imgur website much like it would before I started using RES on the desktop variant of Listnook. I've always enjoyed the feature in 3rd party clients like Sync where I can click on the preview or on the image itself while in a thread and it brings up a PIP view of what I'm trying to look at while keeping my place. I don't know if there is a feature to change this or not but it would be nice to adopt while still giving me the option to view the gallery on the imgur application or on the website itself. I miss being able to swipe from the right to view things such as the rules of a particular sublistnook. Are there any plans to implement this function in a future release or will it remain how it is now in the upper righthand corner? As a whole, the performance on the official application has been lovely to say the least. Not once have I seen any remarkable slowdown while using the application; however, the only time I have seen some form of slowdown has been while viewing images from imgur seeing as the phone that I tested this application on didn't have imgur installed. ~~Aside from that one issue however, the only other issue that gets to me goes back to the 4.4 crashing when trying to see if the performance would be the same from one phone to the next. Again, I'd like to see this fixed seeing as not every phone can get the latest and greatest firmware updates in a timely manner from the rest of the lot.~~ Overall, the official app is a step in the right direction in my opinion. It's nice to see there is finally a official means for people who are easily intimidated by the countless number of 3rd party clients. Do I recommend the application though? Well... that all really depends on what you are looking for in this client this early on. Does it compare to the likes of RIF, Sync, BaconReader, etc? Again, it all depends on what you are looking for. The official client does need a lot of work yet which is why I would recommend that people should try it before they make the switch from those clients to this one. Personally, the app in its current state is akin to the stock experience that you would get out of Listnook on a desktop but in mobile format. It may not have all of the bells and whistles comparatively speaking, but to me, it is a good stepping-stone for people to learn on if this is their first time using a Listnook client. Am I personally going to make the switch this early on? Not just yet because I'd like to see how far this application is willing to go with its future iterations before making the switch from Sync. There are things that I like about the official client and things that I dislike which is why I'd much rather wait for a couple of weeks or months for the feedback to start coming to fruition; however, that is just my opinion. EDIT #2: All references to the 4.4 crash have been crossed out as the latest hotfix update has fixed the aforementioned problem. I can't speak for everyone when I say that the application now works on my device. In terms of performance, it is much the same as you would expect it to be on a device running newer firmware. Slowdowns are again, very far from few aside from what I've stated above but this might just be my device. Again, I cannot speak for anyone else seeing as my G3 Vigor released within the time-frame of 1-to-2 years while others might be running devices that are much older. My only other concern comes from the /r/Android sublistnook which brings up the valid point on how ads are going to be implemented either after everyone's 3 months of Gold run out or how they are going to be for individuals who might miss out on the offer due to foreseen issues such as the client not being readily available in other countries. If ads are akin to 3rd party clients and are not intrusive, I do not see this being an issue; however, in the same regards if the ads become intrusive, I would be inclined to say that this client might not be for everyone except for taking advantage of the offer as it stands right now. Otherwise, my opinions still remain the same and my feedback is still valid. Any other changes will follow as a reply to this comment as the character limit is 10000 characters throughout Listnook. Do I still recommend the app? That's up for you to decide as I cannot speak for everyone else's wants and needs when deciding on which client to use.

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DearthNadir Apr 7, 2016 +5

Been using it for a bit this morning and tentatively I really like it. The lack of swipe-to-close-thread from Alien Blue is killing me, though. Killing me.

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pokemanzred Apr 7, 2016 +303

Are there plans for a Windows mobile app?

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Happysin Apr 7, 2016 +65

As someone that uses Readit regularly, please don't close off API access if you decide not to support Windows 10 directly.

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zslayer89 Apr 7, 2016 +5

Will this app provide push notifications when you receive messages or comment replies?

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rofex Apr 7, 2016 +3

Well, better late than never, I guess! Good job with the first release of the app. As long as you guys keep releasing updates to the app you'll be okay (the app does needs a lot of work, especially in the UI). I don't want to nitpick at this time.

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snegtul Apr 7, 2016 +5

Oh goddamit. So far I like it. I wanted to hate it, since I'm a long time RIF supergolden platinum user.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +3

Have you ever beat Mang0 in tournament?

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Teck_72 Apr 7, 2016 +2

I'm far from a power user.. Lurker mostly. From my first impressions of this app, I like it. It's smooth, seems to do what I like (mostly look at and read stuff, not submit much of anything). It doesn't seem to lag at all, although there were a few times where the back button up top didn't work and I had to use the phone's instead, which worked fine. I like the layout and color scheme, although a few minor themes would be cool. Thanks for doing this! The third party app I use (sync) works great but I'm always open to trying new things.

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VonFrig Apr 7, 2016 +4

I'm on Android 6.0.1 and the back button on the top left corner doesn't work. I have to use my phone's back button instead.

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syedzul Apr 7, 2016 +2

Would we see a tablet version soon? It seems that this one is best compatible for iPhones and Android phones only

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PlamZ Apr 7, 2016 +3

Happy to see more Melee players in the ranks of listnook. Awesome app, thanks for everything!

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DaiLiGuy Apr 7, 2016 +2

yay! It's nice being part of the beta team. Glad it's out :) Will there be a way to order your list of sublistnooks? Mainly because I have my own order.

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BishamonX Apr 7, 2016 +2

I missed out because of my location. :'( Keep up the awesome work though, I'll wait for the global release, still worth it.

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Realtrain Apr 7, 2016 +3

Just tried the app and love it. The only one thing stopping me from using it is an AMOLED dark mode. Any chance we could get that maybe pretty please? :)

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vavoysh Apr 7, 2016 +5

I'm on android 4.4.2, I can't even launch it, it just insta crashes :\

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Oviraptor Apr 7, 2016 +2

Yoooooo you play Melee? I love you already Alex!

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nsajirah2 Apr 7, 2016 +5

Omg, I love this app!! Thank you!

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ThatSomeGaming Apr 7, 2016 +4

Will you be looking into the way other sites work in the app. For example imgur, or gfycat, something that would make loading those sort of sites a bit more fluid. Listnook is fun does an ok job at this but it just loads albums like a website. Just a thought.

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Toliver182 Apr 7, 2016 +395

Regarding the iOS app: PROS * UI is great looking * Strong focus on content, images and video previews show in-line (in card view) * Night mode * Sublistnooks have banners (/r/apple is a good example of this) * Application is smooth, runs well. (From u/infernal_pizza) CONS * Cannot change text size * No way of seeing 'read' posts * No optimal viewing, always seems to push to the youtube web page for example * As above, GIFVs have no "optimal view" * No media display settings * Cannot close a parent comment by left swiping on a child comment, it closes the child comment only * Cannot sort comments by old (from u/michikade) * No casual/favourite subs (from u/runs_with_snails) * Cannot group sublistnooks * No flair support (From u/infernal_pizza) * No iPad version (from u/UKnowWGTG) * No 3D touch support (from u/UKnowWGTG) courtesy of /u/Nnorgarrd posted here: https://np.listnook.com/r/AlienBlue/comments/4dqajk/new_listnook_app_discussion_thread/

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mmmsoap Apr 7, 2016 +68

> * Cannot change text size This is HUGE, and orders of magnitude more important than anything else on the list. The text size is smaller than the standard font size for any other iOS app I've encountered, isn't changeable within the app, and doesn't change dynamically when you change the text size of the OS itself. Huge oversight, and a big problem. (Edit to add) A lot of missing features are just "this would make my life easier" things. Non-changeable text sizes makes the app literally unusable for a significant subset of users.

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notarized_pee_bib Apr 7, 2016 +83

I would like to second the lack of optimal view for GIFs/YouTube/Imgur/etc. (having to tap "play" on GIFs/Videos 3 times is a bit much), and the lack of marking "read" posts...came here to mention those and was glad you already had. Otherwise the App is great!

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phillq23 Apr 7, 2016 +31

-Can't save images to camera roll directly from app -Can't open an imgur link in safari

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +30

Cons: Downvote button obviously less important than Upvote button but it's the rightest button. Majority of people a right-handers and using their right thumb to tap it. Those buttons should switch places.

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GoA-Yahtze Apr 7, 2016 +1

A Falco main you say?.... Then you're fine by me. If you would have said puff or ICs I would have got the pitch forks out for sure.

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Dankosario Apr 7, 2016 +2

Yay an official listnook app!

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cryothic Apr 7, 2016 +8

I'm running a Samsung Note 2, on Android 4.4.2 The site tells me my device is not compatible. What's the problem there?

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FLSun Apr 7, 2016 +3

The app crashes immediately upon opening. I click on the app icon and it the screen goes white for a few seconds. Then the screen turns black and 2 seconds later I get a box saying the app has crashed send feedback? I type in what happened but there is no way to submit my report.

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ClassicalMusicTroll Apr 7, 2016 +1

Hi, kind of off-topic, but just wondering what your work background is? I'm a developer who would love to get more involved with the business side of things, and it seems like your position is exactly what I would want to do - facilitate figuring out WHAT to work on, and HOW to do it, and being the go-between for biz and tech sides. Like I said, as a Dev, how could I position myself for this? I don't really have business experience, but I have done a lot of requirements gathering and writing. Thanks.

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TMadd8 Apr 7, 2016 +6

Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 Android 4.4.4: Force close upon attempting to open the app. Can't even try it out.

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CA719 Apr 7, 2016 +172

I prefer browsing /r/all, over my front page since I feel like otherwise I miss out on great content from sublistnooks I don't subscribe to (like that fascinating post [about the landlocked neighbor](https://www.listnook.com/r/legaladvice/comments/4dci57/update_my_neighbors_caused_themselves_to_be)) , and thus being able to filter out sublistnooks is crucial. Also I prefer sorting by new on all of my favorite sublistnooks, and you can't seem to change the default view for this. Otherwise it looks really nice, but that's about it in terms of pros. I'm gonna stick to Sync for Listnook for now.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 -3

Feedback: Fix your mobile site(s). I'm not installing an app to read content. That's what the web is for.

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RamboFox Apr 7, 2016 +1

Wahoo! I was disappointed when I couldn't find an app before so I just added Listnook to my home screen, which was working just fine until now. A few things I noticed: Just tried doing a search in the app for Android to find this thread, and it crashed. :( I love that it isn't paginated. I don't like the font in the app. Too thin and tall. I like the font on the mobile site better, it just feels friendlier to read there. I love that you can do card or compact within the app, smart move. Its funny, I like card view but my husband hates it, so that will make him happy. And super stoked that I got 3 months of Listnook Gold!

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Mitchfarino Apr 7, 2016 +1

I'm gonna trial it, see how it goes. You'll struggle to get me away from RiF though...

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Jux_ Apr 7, 2016 +5

Can something finally top Listnook Is Fun? Let's find out ... *edit: Android marshmallow user, the back arrow doesn't always return me to the sublistnook from a thread and I wish there was an option to access my user profile from any page, including when within threads. My comment history just does the first line of a comment which bugs me, although I might just be missing the setting for that. So far, not bad, but I'll probably stick with Listnook is Fun.

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heartattacked Apr 7, 2016 +79

Can someone let me know once these basic Alien Blue features are available (or where they're hidden) * Hide Posts (both singular and all-read) * Compact View (not that half-compact that exists today) * Minimal click video/gif plays (why does it take FOUR pages to see a gif actually move?!) * Quick access to manually entered sublistnooks We all appreciate the effort in getting this live, but why not wait 6 weeks and implement some of these rudimentary features first? What's the rush?

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Gandy435 Apr 7, 2016 +7

>Quick access to manually entered sublistnooks This was the first thing I looked for and couldn't find it. The search function is spotty and doesn't seem to be an adequate substitution. I agree...disappointing, but I look forward to seeing where the app goes from here. UI is nice, but Alien Blue will still be my go to. Edit: turn off "safe for work browsing" in profile settings so you can view nsfw sublistnooks in the search field

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +1

Why did you announce this on Facebook first?

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changingminds Apr 7, 2016 +4

What does the app's stack look like? (Both iOS and Android). I'd love to know more about the app's design and code architecture/pattern decisions.

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HungryAndFoolish Apr 7, 2016 +6

Regarding Android: * [Glide](https://github.com/bumptech/glide) * [SquiDB](https://github.com/yahoo/squidb) * [EventBus](https://github.com/greenrobot/EventBus) * [ObservableScrollView](https://github.com/ksoichiro/Android-ObservableScrollView) * [Timber](https://github.com/JakeWharton/timber) by /u/JakeWharton * [ButterKnife](http://jakewharton.github.io/butterknife/), thanks again to /u/JakeWharton * [Icepick](https://github.com/frankiesardo/icepick) We're saving the design/architecture/patterns talk for later.

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ArgonathX Jun 11, 2016 +1

I believe several features present in IOS would be nice in Android as well. Case and point: the discover tab, which is absent in Android as well as a way to browse through your saved posts. Landscape mode for tablet users could be useful too.

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sminja Apr 7, 2016 +10

Nice looking app. I've been using the long-neglected Flow on Android, but I'm not sure if I'll switch. Some things I noticed: 1. The back arrow in the upper left is nonfunctional for me. 2. The contents section does not remember which comments I collapsed in previous visits. 3. No formatting help in the comment dialog (I can never remember the formatting tricks). EDIT: I forgot line breaks the first time I wrote this, a preview would have helped. 4. Acknowledgments section is barren. I'm surprised that not one open source project is mentioned (whether by licensing requirement or just respect). 5. I can't figure out how to get to my past comments. I can see the list, but when I click on one I am taken to the top level thread. Because of this I am editing this comment from my old app :/

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nermid Apr 7, 2016 +5

Things I like: * Night mode. Thank you. This is much easier on the eyes. * Sublistnook selection card uses the individual subs' snoos. That's fantastic. * Free gold. I'm not above accepting a bribe. * Defaulting to my front page instead of to /r/all is much, **much** appreciated. * Ooo, imgur integration? Fancy. Things I don't like: * Inbox doesn't default to the same "unread replies" that the browser does. That's confusing. * Some views have a settings gear *and* Settings in the context menu that go to the same place. That's silly. * It's not immediately obvious that tapping the app's logo will bring out the sublistnook selection card. You might want to consider an app tutorial (the little dialog boxes that pop up for when an app is first used that highlight non-obvious features like that). * New/old reply highlighting in the inbox is not at all sufficient. Consider giving unread replies a different background color, like RES does on desktop. * Viewing unread messages and comment replies on the app doesn't appear to mark them as read on desktop. Viewing unread messages on the app doesn't appear to mark them as read on the app, either (comment replies seem to be working fine). Viewing them on desktop does mark them as read in the app, though. * Wait a minute. Does this app not support screen rotation? What sort of madness is that? * There seems to be an intermittent bug with the app's back arrow (in the upper-left) not working. The phone's back button always seems to work fine, though. I'd think you could just ditch the in-app back arrow, but there may be weird phone configurations that make that unworkable. I dunno. Edit: Also, are you going to make this open source? That'd be pretty sweet. Edit2: I suppose I should note that I'm on Android, since I mentioned a bug or two.

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DannyOSully May 27, 2016 +1

http://imgur.com/Wc8l4vS I'd love to see the official app take a feature from Sync for Listnook that requires less taps to view content. Just a simple pop-up window displaying the content rather than multiple page navigation steps.

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BradleyB636 Apr 7, 2016 +57

Just downloaded it. I currently use alien blue and here's what I think the official app needs (I'm on iphone 5): -a more compact way to show posts. I know there's a setting for this, but I would like it even smaller. -a way to tell I already viewed a post. Grey it out or something- I don't see a way to do that.

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orangejulius Apr 7, 2016 +13

I need the ability to switch between modmails for different subs otherwise asklistnook just dominates. Could there be a feature so that mod teams can use canned macro responses to frequent problems? If there could be 'mod mode' just in general that would be great. -share to slack -flair users -flair posts -add contributor -remove comment / post -approve comment / post -ban user (timed or perma) -etc. It is very pretty and very fast.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +39

humor squeamish brave paint dinner payment point modern materialistic air -- mass edited with redact.dev

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bdzz Apr 7, 2016 +56

Here is the APK for any non-US listnookors https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwduK1C1PXjxWXY5elN4YkRpdDA/view You got 3 months of gold if you login! >Thank you for using the Listnook mobile app! As a thank you for logging in during launch week, you've been gifted 3 months of Listnook Gold.

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-Pelvis- Apr 7, 2016 +22

I'd like to try the app, but when I try to launch it, I get "Unfortunately, Listnook has stopped". Galaxy S3, running Cyanogenmod 11, Android 4.4.4 I can provide further information if required, and I am available for troubleshooting.

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NewsonLAD Apr 7, 2016 +13

Will Push Notifications be added in iOS? Will there be 3D Touch support for devices capable? Please make quick actions custom sublistnooks. Will there be options to move the voting arrows to the left ? Which is how it is on the normal site. Edit: Also Triple tap for dark theme, and/or changing of theme based on time?

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +41

It's very pretty and and well designed, but there are some issues, and it's very bare bones right now. I'd like the ability to open the profile of whoever made a post or comment go to the sublistnook something is posted in open imgur images and YouTube videos in-app with their APIs And most importantly, **pay to get rid of ads with actual money, not Listnook gold** Until some of these things are present, I'll stick with the much more complete and pleasant to use Sync.

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AaronCompNetSys Apr 7, 2016 +10

This is one of the most important parts of an app experience for me, and determines both if I use it and if I recommend it to people. The ad experience. It needs to be shown in screenshots and talked about here. I always pay for my apps but I do a huge amount of recommending to people who don't.

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caligari87 Apr 7, 2016 +30

So I just installed the Listnook for Android app, and it's crashing on startup, never even reaches the homepage. [screenshot](http://imgur.com/WLWheed) I've tried rebooting my phone, same problem. I'm using a Moto E (Tracfone) running Android 4.4.4. EDIT: After the update it seems to be working!

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mannyrmz123 Apr 7, 2016 +1

Why Falco?

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GraklingHunter Apr 7, 2016 +3

I have a fair amount of feedback on this so far. Been using the android app for about an hour. First up; how do you actually submit a comment through it? I'm typing this up from my PC because I can't figure out how to post the comment once I'm done typing it in. There's no submit button. I'm loving that you can navigate tha majority of the main page 1-handed, even on a large screen. Could we get some different layout options to help make things even more 1-hand-able (like the hide button on comments)? It would also be nice to be able to flip the orientation so you can use it left-handed instead of right-handed. Can we get a way to save a comment before posting it? I frequently end up in situations on mobile where I get halfway through typing up a comment, but then I need to double check something before I finish posting. It would be nice for there to be a save/load button so you don't have to use the phone's clipboard, as frequently what I'm looking for is a link or portion of text that I want to paste in. A big plus for me over Listnook is Fun is that you can access the comments section by just pressing on the link, instead of needing to select the link and then press comments. However, there's a few things I'd like to see added to the links. First, I'd like to see the username of the poster, much like it shows which sublistnook the post was from. Second, I'd like to be able to follow the link directly by pressing on the image, instead of needing to go to the comments section first. Why does the settings button have multiple icons? In the main view, it's a vertical line of 3 dots, but if you open the messages pane, the settings button changes to a gear. I'm not a huge fan of the floating Submit/Comment button, as it obscures some of the content lower on the screen. Minor nitpick, but it would be nice if there were a way to move it around, or maybe change it to a button on the top bar near the messages/settings area. Can we get an option to change font size? It's a little to large for my liking, and makes comments seem huge. I'd like to be able to pinch-zoom or even just change it in settings so there's smaller fonts. I imagine on larger devices, or with vision-impaired users they'd like to be able to make it larger as well. I really like how the sublistnook bar on the left has the sublistnooks individual Snoo as a preview. It's a cool touch. Could we get some kind of preview/auto-fill feature for the spot where you manually type in the sublistnook name? Like, if I start typing 'PC' have it change the bar to instead of showing my subscribed sublistnooks, show a preview of sublistnooks that start with PC (like PCMasterrace, PCGaming, etc.) and let you follow a link from there without needing to finish typing the whole sublistnook name. This would benefit greatly from a filter ability as well, where you can tell it to only show subs you've been to before, not show NSFW subs, etc. I like how you can collapse the folder for your subscribed sublistnooks. Are there any plans to add any more folders? A Default Subs folder, maybe a folder full of links to Trending Sublistnooks or Subs-of-the-day, or even allow you to make custom folders (i.e. a folder for all of the subs related to a show or a game) I tried reading the message that let me know I got gold for using the app, and I noticed two things. First, there is a huge gap between the header/tagline and the body of the message. Not sure if that's intentional. Also, when I tapped the 'Extra Features' link in the message, the app just crashed. The hide comment button is fairly small. I keep accidentally pressing the username, or just missing altogether. Can we get a way to increase the size of that button for us sausage-fingered users? I will have more feedback later. I'll edit my post after using the app some more.

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IDGeek121 Apr 7, 2016 +7

On Android, the back button in the top-left doesn't work from the comments page. I have to use the system back button to get back to the posts page. Besides that, it's a very clean looking app. I'm gonna stick with this for a couple weeks. Using a OnePlus X on Oxygen OS 2.2.0-X, based on Android 5.5.1 Edit: In night mode, the post button doesn't show in the comment submission page. Also, the comment sort settings don't seem to work.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +261

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Mini_True Apr 7, 2016 +39

The app is not available in Germany. I find that quite frustrating, since most of us and myself don't really need a localized version. All the good content is in English anyway.

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devlspawn Apr 7, 2016 +56

Hi, have you guys considered using the Windows Bridge for IOS to bring the app to Windows Phone?

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +5

This comment has been overwritten by an open source script to protect this user's privacy. If you would like to do the same, add the browser extension [GreaseMonkey](https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/greasemonkey/) to Firefox and add [this open source script](https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/10380-listnook-overwrite). Then simply click on your username on Listnook, go to the comments tab, and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +3

Positives: I like the overall flow of the app. Quite nice. Good colors and such. Most of my issues so far as a non-mod user are to do with readability and fonts. 1) The night mode isn't quite there. The text is too gray. It doesn't need to be totally white but none of the text pops out at all, it's too close to the background color. I guess either darken the background or lighten the text. Also, if I open up a saved comment, the comment is highlighted by an ugly blue that obscures the text. Same thing happens when I open up the left tab. It seems like nightmode only changes some colors but not others. I've always felt that night mode should be the default but white background with black text doesn't offend anyone. 2) Upvotes. Good choice on having the upvotes on the right be the default, but there's no option to switch it to the other side for us lefties. Also, it's a bit small. Screen real estate is tight, but if the font gets decreased it could easily stay upright on either side of the post. 3) Font size. Each post is *huge* on the screen. I can fit 3-4 posts on a screen on the official app, whereas even with an ad RiF fits around 7. If there were like a "small", "medium", "large" font option, that would be excellent. 4) Hide child comments. This is just a personal preference but both RES and RiF have it and I've gotten used to it. If I just collapse the whole comment, if I want to go back to it later I have to uncollapse every one because I don't remember which spot it was in. If I hide child comments, I have an easy way to see where it might be. 5) When looking at a user's comments or history, the sublistnook and date are **enormous** and the comment itself is truncated. I thought clicking on the comment would reveal the rest of it on the page, but it instead brings me to the comment itself. As it stands, these pages are entirely useless. 6) The submit + in the bottom right corner. Can that be disabled or at least not on the front page? I submit something maybe once every few months and I'm always on the sublistnook I want to submit to. It's just distracting and covers up posts. edit: Found a couple more frustrating things. When I click on a post, it takes me to the comments. I have to then click on a tiny button to go to the actual link. In most of the other apps, clicking on a post opens up some more options where you can click on comments, and clicking on the thumbnail takes you directly to the post. I can't access post options (such as save or report) easily from the comments. There's no button to reply to a comment, it's in a submenu, which is awful.

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Tramch Aug 26, 2016 +1

Is it still not available in the German IOS Store?

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pizzaiolo_ Apr 7, 2016 +36

Why haven't you released the source code under a free license?

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Trap380 Apr 7, 2016 +34

I love the casual sublistnooks idea from alien blue, is that feature going to be in the new app?

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DeadZeplin Apr 7, 2016 +45

Windows phone, please! It's great that you've put these out, either way. Hope to check them out sometime.

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redn2000 Apr 7, 2016 +35

Will you guys consider making a UWP app for those of us on windows phone? I'd love to be able to use an official listnook app.

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[deleted] Apr 7, 2016 +61

Moto Droid MAXX(XT1080) : "Unfortunately, Listnook has stopped." Immediately after launching. Downvoted for reporting a bug in an app launch thread. Gold.

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-Pelvis- Apr 7, 2016 +11

I have the same issue. Galaxy S3, running Cyanogenmod 11, Android 4.4.4 I can provide further information if necessary, and I am available for troubleshooting. (I gave you an upvote to balance it out) :)

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captgoody Apr 7, 2016 +49

I know I'm in the minority here but could we please get a better moble app for windows phone? Baconit sucks.

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Chairboy Apr 7, 2016 +12

They've mentioned elsewhere in the thread that they have no plans for a Windows Mobile client right now. Just dropping you a reply here in case you didn't catch it, it's a big thread.

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