Long Island architect Rex Heuermann pleads guilty to murdering 7 women and admits he killed another

They found a lot more too, including essentially a self-made guide walking through the steps of his murder plans Some very chilling implications in that document as well Guy was a monster Edit: For the morbidly curious, straight from the DA indictment to you https://www.suffolkcountyda.org/wp-content/uploads/Gilgo-Superseding-Bail-Application-6.6.2024.pdf Check the two exhibits on the last pages.

And his hearing to get it tossed was denied.

I don't know if they have more now, but I remember reading that they actually had DNA evidence of his wife on one of the victims. The wife was out of the country at the time, so she was never a suspect

As an Okie, I'm glad he got the sentence that he got of 200 years in prison.

Police try not to be psycho challenge: impossible

Matt Orchard has a really interesting video on this case on youtube: [The Highly Controversial Case of Daniel Holtzclaw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK_JaDxIzfg&t=8113s).

The police at the time often found victims’ remains and labeled them NHI or No Humans Involved so there will never be an accurate count of how many women he killed. And they caught him by accident because his son got into a bar fight and his DNA pinged as a partial match to the GS. I believe his eventual DNA match was also pizza crust.

There were actually at least 5 serial killers active in South Central LA at the same time, Grim Sleeper included. From what I've read each one had at least 7 confirmed kills and many more that couldn't/haven't been proven. It's absolutely despicable that that many serial killers were able to operate for close to 2 decades in the same community.

Legalise sex work

I'd rather be able to sleep for the rest of my life... No thank you!

When someone is murdered, police investigate the people who knew the victim, as the start and often finish of trying to solve the case. When someone is killed by a stranger, the police are GARBAGE at finding out who did it. The FBI are better, but not sure how much.

They still have friends most of the time. The problem is that their friends are usually other sex workers so either they don’t want to interact with the police or if they do, the police ignore them. 

A lot of them didn't have friends and family in their lives any longer. That's precisely why these cases often are late to start and don't go anywhere because people are late to notice anything is wrong and to take action.  It's not like this phenomenon is limited to prostitutes, there are lots of cases of others without people close to them in their lives who's cases go nowhere. When someone only gets reported maybe missing weeks or months after and then there's no close contacts to build a timeline around it's very difficult to get anywhere.

LEO protects capital first and the owners of capital. Always.

Yeah. Sex work should be legalised so workers have more protection imo

Though it's partially police bias to not investivage, it's also because there's far less evidence to find for people who want to hide from authorities. The office worker who turned up to work every day? We can profile their habits and trace their tracks. The orphan drug addicted girl who keeps getting into relationships with abused men? We don't know where she was couch surfing, nobody knows her because she burns all bridges. Without DNA it's just a beaten up body without any leads.

Truly the circle of life

Oh that’s interesting. Glad they identified her and caught her killer. Sad tho

Thank you for the correction.

For now, it only looks to be sheer coincidence that Tanya and Tatiana were dumped close to the bodies of the other victims.

The turning point was a new commissioner who essentially strongarmed the police into actually doing their jobs for once. After that they got a warrant to search the property, found the laptop and the "guide" and at that point there was no other option other than arrest/charge him because the evidence was that damning. Absolutely criminal that it took this long, but at least he's going to die in prison now.

He was a suspect for many years.

I dunno how much of a secret it is when his daughter (later accomplice) reported him to the FBI and authorities in New Mexico a decade before he was eventually arrested. People were made aware, they dropped the ball.

I thought it was the killing.

I thought it was the r***.

It’s a great and infuriating documentary.

Booo terrible title, do better Netflix

Hahahahahaha absolutely

Part of the plea agreement was that no one else would get convicted of anything for the 7 murders. Guessing she was an accomplice and the plea was just to protect her.

yes it did. she implied he pled guilty to speed things up

i think he simply got too old/the need for the sort of sexual release that killing gave him wasn't as strong as it used to be. Joe Deangelo's (The East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer) last known victim died when he was in his early 40's as well. Rex looked like a tubby schlub, i wouldn't be surprised if he had some sort of back/knee/shoulder problems develop in his late 30's/early 40's that would make cutting up and disposing of victims too much of a burden after 2010 compared to when he was younger. finally, technological advances in police investigation techniques by 2010 would have made getting caught much more likely if he had continued compared to the technology available in the 90's and early 2000's that he had to contend with.

There's a term coined for referring to sex workers and others who are basically ignored by police because they're "less important", the term is the "less dead"

If Gary had murdered a billionaire white male they would have had helicopters circling the city 24/7 looking for him

i rather have 10 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man going to death

But I think stipulations on serial killer cases should be added for death penalty. Killers like the toolbox killers, the manson crew, BTK, The Golden State killer… there’s hundreds if not thousands of pieces of evidence. Recordings, forensics, witnesses… and many of them had previous crimes on their record. There shouldnt be 20 yrs of appeals.

I've had to come around to this line of thinking because I used to be pretty pissy about the idea of letting murderous criminals go on living. But the case is this: Society pays taxes to fund the building and maintenance of facilities meant to house convicted criminals which serves the purpose of: \-Removing those people from society \-Giving them an opportunity to reform themselves \-Allows society to put them into a position where they must work and contribute to society as part of their punishment. I'm not mad about people not being killed by the government. And nothing that this person, or anyone, ever does will bring back the people killed. The most we can do is remove this person from society and force them to work back-breaking labor conditions (within constitutional protections) to give back to the society they've wronged and harmed. Rehabilitation is on that person, the facility is there and services are available for them to make good of, but it's ultimately not mine or anyone's problem. Keep them out of society and bust their ass making them work hard to contribute to the society they've wronged, and that's enough for me.

The "prison for rich people" things is one of those things that is true-ish, but mostly misunderstood. The BoP has wide discression on where you get sent. You don't get sentenced to "summer camp prison" or "ultra supermax", you get sentenced to "10 years". The BoP makes the decision about where you get sent based on their accessment of your risk factors (how much are you gonna ruins the warden's day, statistically). People who commit violent crimes are seen as higher risk, men are seen as higher risk, repeat offenders are seen as higher risk. There's also a lot of assessment of how cooperative a convict is in the process. Someone who commits one murder in circumstances that are specific (killing a romantic partner upon discovering an affair) is generally going to be seen as lower risk than someone who robs a string of shops and assaults the employees (a pattern of violent behavior without a triggering circumstance) "rich people prison" is "minimum security", and rich people get sent there more often because of the kinds of crimes rich people generally commit: Tax fraud, embezzlement, wire fraud, etc. As you move up the economic ladder,crimes are more likely to be committed in spreadsheets than with a gun or a knife, and people who commit crimes like that are assessed as lower risk inmates, so they go to minimum security institutions. That said, poors absolutely go to these prisons too, and the rich absolutely go to brutal prisons, because not all poor crimes are violent and not all rich crimes are nonviolent. The BoP generally wants to send people to lower security institutions where possible, because they're much cheaper and easier to run.

There are way too many people who believe that a prison sentence is some misstep of justice. Outside of a few select Federal "prisons" the conditions are, in general, not great and get even worse when you get to privately owned for-profit prisons. Hell, most of them use prisoners as slave labor to further increase profits! But that doesn't matter to the people who think that criminals should be put to death. Anything less than death is too kind. Then there are people who *want* criminals to spend as much time as possible in the worst conditions, hoping that r*** and violence are brought upon them as even further punishment. Both of those types of people are deplorable. All they ever want is to see others suffer and/or die as opposed to seeing that justice is actually carried out.

Many people want the criminal justice system to be a revenge system that tortures and murders people based on the crimes they committed. They don't believe in the possibility of reform, and have decided that committing a crime means you are no longer human. The fact that other nations that do try to reform prisoners have significantly better crime rates and lower recidivism rates means nothing. They want revenge not facts.