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ArchdruidHalsin Mar 15, 2026 +1177

Some dip shit tried telling me Logan Paul is rich because he's a genius. "If he's not, then why aren't you that rich?" 1) Logan Paul grew up super wealthy 1) There are things I'm unwilling to do and people I'm unwilling to be for money.

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foc_natzis Mar 15, 2026 +577

We as a society tend to equate having money with being intelligent.

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nordic-nomad Mar 15, 2026 +237

Nothing should dissuade people of that notion faster than meeting people with a lot of money. Like if the wealthiest person you know is a doctor that makes some sense. But the correlation breaks pretty quickly.

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foc_natzis Mar 15, 2026 +178

I’ve met a lot of doctors whose intelligence disappears the minute you go beyond their area of expertise

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Zhuul Mar 15, 2026 +96

I used to work at a law office and met one of the main people who helped make the rapid antigen COVID tests. He was an MD and an attorney. He couldn't operate a touchscreen nespresso machine unassisted. My hypothesis is we've all got more or less the same brain and it only has so much room for stuff.

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_Wily-Wizard_ Mar 15, 2026 +45

As a polymath with ADHD, I’d fall on the more capable side in just about anything, but I also make the most boneheaded mistakes constantly so it evens out lol.

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Conscious-Mulberry17 Mar 15, 2026 +14

I can relate. I know a little bit about a whole lot of things, but a lot about maybe a couple. I’m good in a pinch, but after that you’ll need to call in an expert. I’m a human Swiss Army knife, essentially.

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Major-Blacksmith4750 Mar 15, 2026 +8

Same! Jack of all trades, master of none. Served me well so far, but I’ve always had trouble staying attentive once a conversation about something I’m not in to gets too inundated with technical details.

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Constant-Sandwich-88 Mar 15, 2026 +2

That phrase has evolved a lot over the years to mean different things.

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CTeam19 Mar 16, 2026 +1

I got an extremely wide girth of knowledge but it is probably equal to a first year college student studying those fields, being a guy with BA in History I feel helps with that. Now organizing that knowledge into being useful beyond me going "Fun fact ........" before rambling for a bit just doesn't exist. I got ADHD-PI.

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RobotPoo Mar 15, 2026 +2

We can only get good at things we find interesting, and nespresso machines were boring for him.

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Zhuul Mar 15, 2026 +3

You literally just drop the pod in and poke the picture of the thing you want it to make, it's about as complicated as a toddler's see-n-say

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ImpressionFeisty8359 Mar 15, 2026 +1

I always struggle with coffee machines because I rarely drink it anyways.

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drunk_haile_selassie Mar 16, 2026 +1

Remember when I took that winemaking course and forgot how to drive?

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DrButtgerms Mar 15, 2026 +8

I have literally watched doctors at a world class academic research institute walk into a trashcan because it was slightly too far from the wall in the hallway

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Decent_Ocelot_727 Mar 15, 2026 +9

Yeah, this is a known phenomenon with very high IQ individuals. They’re high intelligence in one area concentrates and other areas are not as balanced.

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glurz Mar 15, 2026 +2

Ben Carson

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inclinedtorecline Mar 15, 2026 +3

If you find his luggage, the lock code is 12345

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doc_witt Mar 15, 2026 +2

He can usually be found wandering helplessly backstage amongst the curtains.

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SSGASSHAT Mar 16, 2026 +1

Well, f***, if even people with high IQs can be stupid, why the f*** did we bother evolving these brains in the first place? I'd be perfectly happy being a thoughtless ape instead of this stressful shit.

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NoConflict3231 Mar 15, 2026 +7

Folks should remember that Drs are monkies just like the rest of us. They've convinced themselves they are superior because of money. Judges, lawyers, police officers, the school principal, they're all monkies just like the rest of us. And all monkies are corrupt by money. I don't trust anyone whose attitude changes towards others due to their income.

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Selfheatingnoodles Mar 15, 2026 +6

Agreed. Acing exams and being good at your profession doesn’t mean you are smart in life.

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livingalienanalbead Mar 15, 2026 +12

And generally they have zero emotional intelligence to boot. My Source: was married to one for 15 years. Her parents were also doctors. And her grandparents. Zero emotional intelligence in the whole lot of them. That’s one example I know. I know a lot of doctors, I work in the field. They’re all pretty much emotionless, narcissistic automatons.

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WhereBaptizedDrowned Mar 15, 2026 +2

I knew a neurosurgeon. So brilliant in this topic that people would mail their writings and findings to her. She’d get paid to review. Money fell on her lap. Extremely deadpan. Stone cold emotionally. Socially inept. If not in center of attention, ego is wounded. Worse if she lost a patient that day. Not because they died but because she’s embarrassed for losing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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SSGASSHAT Mar 16, 2026 +1

Well, I suppose the lesson I can draw from this conversation is that even if I'm a complete dumbass, at least the bar for quality as a human being isn't very high.

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OkInsect6946 Mar 15, 2026 +2

that specialisation is literally why humans are so successful.

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khemtrails Mar 15, 2026 +1

Ben Carson, for example.

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Telstar2525 Mar 15, 2026 +1

So true

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endorrawitch Mar 15, 2026 +1

Like Ben Carson

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larevolutionaire Mar 15, 2026 +1

And that’s fine, I hired them for their skills set . If I hired a mecanicien, i don’t expect him to tell me about quantum physics.

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canyouhearme Mar 15, 2026 +1

Its important to realise that GPs are not geniuses. They are just memorisers of lots of facts that can regurgitate them - akin to taxi drivers who have done the knowledge. Consultants are those that have something more between the ears, though even then I wouldn't classify them as geniuses. More at the basic engineering level of being able to take facts they have been told and twist them into new shapes. To be a genius you have to be able to create new - to leave the book knowledge, build new understanding, and then codify it for the rest to use. It's a whole different skill set. Just look at the medical 'understanding' stomach ulcers, which doctors had been cutting people open for since the beginning of modern medicine. Recognising the role of Helicobacter pylori as the cause took researchers to recognise, and got them the Nobel prize. If you have ever met a real genius, you will never confuse memorising books for the real thing.

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JoannaCuppa Mar 16, 2026 +1

Agreed. I once had a junior doctor ask me what gaviscon was for. It made me want to rock to and fro in a corner!

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BigOlPenisDisorder Mar 15, 2026 +1

It’s the old trope of a highly-regarded and published academic who needs help from their students turning on a projector or some other basic technological task.

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Whiskeywiskerbiscuit Mar 16, 2026 +1

Brother, I know a guy who runs a very successful engineering firm who believes the earth is flat.

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Mouthshits Mar 16, 2026 +1

I work with various doctors and PHD’s in my field. Once you start talking about general things outside of their area of expertise, they can be some of the most idiotic people ever.

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HorrFrek Mar 15, 2026 +6

I grew up in an old money town that was having an influx of new money, and while my family was poor, you could always tell the difference between the two pretty damn easily

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Punman_5 Mar 15, 2026 +6

No even then Doctors can be the biggest morons imaginable. Ask any doctor about something outside their field and you’ll get a _very_ confident answer that’s probably also _very_ incorrect. When you’re smart at one thing it’s easy to think you’re smart at everything

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RobotPoo Mar 15, 2026 +1

Athletes, for example, are just people and can be quite stupid but rich people.

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shomeyomves Mar 15, 2026 +1

Worked directly with a CEO (nothing huge, small startup, but making good money by any normal persons standard) near daily for a year. Was quite eye opening. I learned its generally people that know how to sell themselves that make money. I wouldn’t call him dumb, but he was extremely superficial, and staunchly disciplined on three things: 1. His business 2. Weightlifting 3. His “Personal Brand” Its honestly pretty gross. The guy basically had no friends or social life other than his employees or other CEO types building “clout” together. I feel a little sad for him but also envy the pure discipline, even if perhaps I feel he’s a little too far gone.

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BigMax Mar 15, 2026 +25

We believe in the U.S. being a meritocracy. And thus we believe the follow on (false) belief. If anyone can be successful through their own merit, then anyone successful by definition earned it. Obviously that’s far more prevalent in conservative circles. But that’s the belief here… “he’s rich, therefore he earned it, therefore he’s worth admiring.”

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sunsetandporches Mar 15, 2026 +8

Housing really messed with my brain on this one. Like most of the people my age that own houses in my area actually had help from their parents. If they didn’t I find out all the info I can because it is unusual.

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Optimal-Moose8299 Mar 15, 2026 +3

My sister and I have this conversation. Our parents never owned. Their parents sold so they could live til death off of it. Sister bought a year later we were both laid off a day apart (Dec 2022). She rented it out a year or so then sold. In laws moved across the country 2019 so we moved too eventually with their offer of the house when they downsized. They practically threw it at us. We moved across the country and suddenly the offer never really happened. We still rent. We have kids. No one owns. Every single person we know that owns got assist from parents. EVERYONE. Parents bought one or gave one or paid the down etc. We have 5 kids in 4 states. One is on our 6 acres with his mom. One is Van living and traveling abroad and is at partners parents as a base. 1 rents with lease. One has our first grand and is living with in laws that has the big house. One is school age and with us. Now it seems a waste to buy like it’s a trap. I know people who inherited house or and money. Some given house and narcissistic parent won’t sign the title over after agreement. So they live there in a paid off house in expensive city that they may never own. Anyway, we will have to be creative.

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even_less_resistance Mar 15, 2026 +2

prosperity gospel energy

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Evening_Pea_9132 Mar 15, 2026 +13

My family is like this. They all think Trump is a secret genius due to his wealth. What's funny is out of everyone in my immediate family I am the "wealthiest." When I pointed this out to them, and how that meant I was clearly smarter, they all lost their f****** shit.

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Bitter_Resolve_6082 Mar 16, 2026 +1

That is hilarious! I love it!

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Cosmic_Seth Mar 15, 2026 +13

We equate having money as being blessed by God. Which is a whole lot worse.

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foc_natzis Mar 15, 2026 +7

Which goes on to show how many have not read the bible

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sunsetandporches Mar 15, 2026 +1

But god cannot handle money well which is why you have to give it to the church. So the church can help god with money problems.

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Nice_Marmot_7 Mar 15, 2026 +5

I think there’s a fetishization of iq and intelligence as some sort of all encompassing super power. Raw iq is essentially pattern recognition and memory which can be useful in excelling in certain endeavors. However, you’re still a human being, and human beings are not governed by intelligence alone. We’re also driven by emotions, primitive survival instincts, personality, etc., and these forces can be far more powerful than reason.

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Pristine-Ad983 Mar 15, 2026 +4

The press has idolized billionaires for years. Most of them are horrible people. It's been frustrating to watch.

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Alarmed-Grape-3669 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Republicans for sure.....

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Stormshow Mar 15, 2026 +2

This is an American phenomenon

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fuck-nazi Mar 15, 2026 +2

First generation money? Sure I’m willing to believe it. Follow on generations? Typically f****** entitled and dumb

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Sorry-Secret-2347 Mar 15, 2026 +2

And there lies the problem. That’s why they think these ppl success means their words are beholden

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-intellectualidiot Mar 15, 2026 +2

There is a meaningful “thumb on the scale” in terms of correlation, but correlation does not equal causation and there are almost certainly other variables at play such as better nutrition and private education.

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PatsyPage Mar 15, 2026 +1

It’s almost ingrained in human behavior at this point which makes sense because in the wild the animal with the most resources is more likely to survive. It’s why human beings allowed themselves to be ruled by kings and dynasties and our democracies share a lot of the same characteristics.

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Intelligent_Cap9706 Mar 15, 2026 +1

And yet vilify education. Make it make sense

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Guntztuffer Mar 15, 2026 +1

That's right, Bob. Listen to your friend: A person that makes more money than you is better than you, and is therefore beyond criticism. This is called [Worthington's Law](https://youtu.be/dCEFcjT7-I0?si=SRfl0zsFhlAdlYk2).

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Ragnarawr Mar 15, 2026 +1

Yet the people with money do the stupidest shit with it.

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Wellcomefarewell Mar 16, 2026 +1

i mean algorithmically speaking he’s very good at keep ppl hating him and engaging with what he does. wouldn’t call him a genius but he’s not this popular solely because his family is wealthy

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Chriscarson6700 Mar 16, 2026 +1

Money care not where it goes.

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Gosinyas Mar 16, 2026 +1

My stepfather does this, because he is an idiot.

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throwawaylordof Mar 16, 2026 +1

Not just with being intelligent, but also with being good - sometimes it’s pretty explicit (prosperity gospel bullshit), sometimes people having weird internalised ideas about wealth and success.

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Me0w_Zedong Mar 15, 2026 +33

If someone's measuring stick for intelligence is wealth, I imagine l****** winners break their brains. Hitting the winning numbers makes someone a regular f****** Einstein, right?

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electrodog1999 Mar 15, 2026 +12

Tesla died poor. Guess he was a dumbass.

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Torontogamer Mar 15, 2026 +8

Ya. I’ll give it to them that theyre not idiots but being shamesless, willing to exploit kids for money, and being around in the right place and right time ( early ish YouTube) isn’t exactly Plato

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Not_software1337 Mar 15, 2026 +8

It wasn’t even that long ago when being a sellout was a bad thing, but now it’s “hustle culture”.

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WasherDryerCombo Mar 15, 2026 +5

WWE fans love him because he can do some flips in a fake fight. It’s the era of dumb f****** assholes in USA.

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jamiehanker Mar 15, 2026 +6

Even if you decided to do that stuff and be that person you would likely be unsuccessful. He’s also lucky

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nonsensestuff Mar 15, 2026 +4

As someone who had to spend time on set with Logan Paul years and years ago… before I even knew who he was… he is absolutely not even close to being considered a genius. Idiot was more of my takeaway.

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Huge-Income3313 Mar 16, 2026 +1

Fun fact about Logan's Japan incident, the dead body was fake What makes Logan truly evil is: 1) Japanese police said the dead body was fake & the incident was a staged prank 2) YouTube knew it was fake, manually put the video on trending & punished people who criticized Logan 3) Logan hired Kim Kardashian's Fame strategist Sheeraz Hasan who is known for faking controversies to make people famous from hate, the Japan incident was a staged Hollywood publicity stunt designed to make Logan super famous. 4) Sheeraz owns LA paparazzi which is why Logan was posing for paparazzi, appearing on the news & doing preplanned paparazzi interviews during the incident. They were aggressively pushing his name & controversy to the entire world 5) Anybody who exposed the Japan incident as fake had their channels striked & videos removed for up to 5 years after the incident, including tiny channels with small followings 6) At the time of Logan's Japan incident, YouTube released their own YouTube Originals show called "Do You Want To See a Dead Body?".. You can Google this right now, I'm not making this up. 7) Both KSI & Logan were spotted in Dubai meeting boxing promoters BEFORE Logan even went to Japan. Logan's 'downfall' into his lucrative boxing 'redemption' pivot was preplanned. They planned to make Logan the villian to sell more boxing tickets. YouTube streamed & trended this event on their platform. Sources: (Full Archive) https://youtu.be/EQfEbFgzX90?si=ukjsnmhPNwmqH-xx (Shortened Version) https://youtu.be/S2iCMgxLyGM?si=pFhUjnmOxeZC-YRc

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Huge-Income3313 Mar 16, 2026 +3

Fun fact about Logan's Japan incident, the dead body was fake What makes Logan truly evil is: 1) Japanese police said the dead body was fake & the incident was a staged prank 2) YouTube knew it was fake, manually put the video on trending & punished people who criticized Logan 3) Logan hired Kim Kardashian's Fame strategist Sheeraz Hasan who is known for faking controversies to make people famous from hate, the Japan incident was a staged Hollywood publicity stunt designed to make Logan super famous. 4) Sheeraz owns LA paparazzi which is why Logan was posing for paparazzi, appearing on the news & doing preplanned paparazzi interviews during the incident. They were aggressively pushing his name & controversy to the entire world 5) Anybody who exposed the Japan incident as fake had their channels striked & videos removed for up to 5 years after the incident, including tiny channels with small followings 6) At the time of Logan's Japan incident, YouTube released their own YouTube Originals show called "Do You Want To See a Dead Body?".. You can Google this right now, I'm not making this up. 7) Both KSI & Logan were spotted in Dubai meeting boxing promoters BEFORE Logan even went to Japan. Logan's 'downfall' into his lucrative boxing 'redemption' pivot was preplanned. They planned to make Logan the villian to sell more boxing tickets. YouTube streamed & trended this event on their platform. Sources: (Full Archive) https://youtu.be/EQfEbFgzX90?si=ukjsnmhPNwmqH-xx (Shortened Version) https://youtu.be/S2iCMgxLyGM?si=pFhUjnmOxeZC-YRc

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tabitalla Mar 15, 2026 +2

2. You can pretty much explain the success of all social media with that sentence from instagram, to youtube and o*******/p******

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DiverExpensive6098 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Paul grew up super wealthy? That's news to me.

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Internet_Rando_667 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Who I would have to become just to achieve "parasitism" isn't worth it.

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Bredbox_06 Mar 16, 2026 +1

Did he , thought he was just a normal subarbun kid , super wealthy implies he vacationed in the Bahamas in the spring etc Absolutely he sold the f*** out but you cleaner say the guys an idiot eitheir NOW JAKE , oh f*** he’s an idiot

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AthearCaex Mar 16, 2026 +1

The Japanese suicide forest incident should have ended this mand career alone. The guy is trashy and people give him attention when he should be forgotten.

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derpferd Mar 15, 2026 +401

"It's highly profitable to be a d***." There. That's all it needed. It's a great time to be a d*** and an a******. Look at the current president of the United States. Look at the people in his administration. Look billionaires. Elon Musk for instance. And yeah, influencers. These assholes. Logan Paul. There has never been a better time to be a f****** d***.

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zparks Mar 15, 2026 +74

America has a long and even proud tradition of hucksterism. But in the history of the world, I’m not sure if we’ve ever given the rubes who fall for the grift so much attention and power before.

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derpferd Mar 15, 2026 +31

That's just the thing. These people, whether billionaires or politicians or influencers are all heavily dependant on the attention given to them by the public. Attention legitimises them. Attention says, "This person is worth listening to." It's why all of them attempt something provocative, whether in speech or in action or by 'disrupting the marketplace'. Whether it's good or not doesn't matter. HStikkytokky (a name I cannot believe I'm typing out in seriousness) says it himself when Theroux in the documentary asks him why he doesn't try being a good person. Cos he probably wouldn't have blown up. Good or bad doesn't matter. Getting attention does. Because these people without attention from the public are nothing. They desperately crave public attention and their desperation drives them to their over the top actions. They are public figures, sure. Donald Trump. Elon Musk. Sneako. Jake Paul. They're public figures. But take the word 'public' from that and what are you left with? Just another figure.

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zparks Mar 15, 2026 +10

100%. The worst part, at the level you and I are describing, is that this is not a right or left political phenomenon. It’s the whole culture. It’s no surprise we are in an entertainment sub having this discussion. The degradation of any kind of ethical core at the heart of celebrity has been happening for a long time. From the Kardashians to Hollywood podcasts, the entire economy of signs has been subsumed by the imperative of profit. If you can make money producing “brands” (more signs) instead of producing “goods” (actual value), all the better. What makes money is good. What doesn’t make money is bad. We’ve lost the capacity to measure anything in between and anything by any other standard.

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NoConflict3231 Mar 15, 2026 +3

I'm not the first one to notice that regardless of politics, d*** heads are literally everywhere. I live in a fairly progressive area politically, and the amount of people openly bashing the Republican party will literally ignore you because you aren't dressed right, talk the right way, or act the way they deem worthy of their attention. It's hypocrisy at best, and the same narcissist behavior at its core. What we're dealing with, largely, is a people problem. Americans have been convinced that being famous is the defacto way to live, and I wholly blame shitty reality television shows like Big Brother and the countless others, for making it popular to be a total POS.

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pUmKinBoM Mar 15, 2026 +4

It's all pro wrestling which in it's origins is just carny bullshit. PT Barnam would have loved this generation.

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zparks Mar 15, 2026 +3

Whenever this topic comes up, I love to dig up this blog piece from *2015* which is still as ahead of the curve as Barthes was when he wrote “Mythologies” in *1957*: https://archive.thinkprogress.org/this-french-philosopher-is-the-only-one-who-can-explain-the-donald-trump-phenomenon-47afad40647c/ “This public knows very well the distinction between wrestling and boxing; it knows that boxing is a Jansenist sport, based on a demonstration of excellence. One can bet on the outcome of a boxing-match: with wrestling, it would make no sense. A boxing- match is a story which is constructed before the eyes of the spectator; in wrestling, on the contrary, it is each moment which is intelligible, not the passage of time… The logical conclusion of the contest does not interest the wrestling-fan, while on the contrary a boxing-match always implies a science of the future. In other words, wrestling is a sum of spectacles, of which no single one is a function: each moment imposes the total knowledge of a passion which rises erect and alone, without ever extending to the crowning moment of a result.” (Barthes) True sport makes sense in the sense of differentiating sense from nonsense; the simulation makes sense by imposition, by fiction, and through a will to power.

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JeffTheBannedShark Mar 15, 2026 +1

Oooh, lookey here, we gots ourselves a college boy

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Easy-Marsupial3268 Mar 15, 2026 +6

These people are the pinnacle of our politics and culture. It says a lot about our politics and culture.

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Terry-Shark Mar 15, 2026 +2

As a general rule, you are right, but Louis is talking it in the context of the Manosphere, hence why he is refering to the internet.

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derpferd Mar 15, 2026 +1

I'm aware. I'm saying that as a type, it's not limited to the Internet. The Internet and this behaviour is one facet of a broader trend in society and a meaningful look at the matter considers it beyond this single face of it

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Severed_Snake Mar 16, 2026 +1

It’s all about the internet though. That’s where they reach people years where anyone can potentially reach an audience. That’s where people get exposed to it

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ImpressionFeisty8359 Mar 15, 2026 +2

They are scum of the earth.

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originalcarp Mar 15, 2026 +1

What is capitalism if not who can be the biggest d*** to everyone else

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Sisko4President Mar 16, 2026 +1

What is capitalism but dicks persevering?

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Vegetable-Ad-1817 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Someone needs to make it super dangerous to be a d***, thats the missing yang

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Huge-Income3313 Mar 16, 2026 +1

Fun fact about Logan's Japan incident, the dead body was fake What makes Logan truly evil is: 1) Japanese police said the dead body was fake & the incident was a staged prank 2) YouTube knew it was fake, manually put the video on trending & punished people who criticized Logan 3) Logan hired Kim Kardashian's Fame strategist Sheeraz Hasan who is known for faking controversies to make people famous from hate, the Japan incident was a staged Hollywood publicity stunt designed to make Logan super famous. 4) Sheeraz owns LA paparazzi which is why Logan was posing for paparazzi, appearing on the news & doing preplanned paparazzi interviews during the incident. They were aggressively pushing his name & controversy to the entire world 5) Anybody who exposed the Japan incident as fake had their channels striked & videos removed for up to 5 years after the incident, including tiny channels with small followings 6) At the time of Logan's Japan incident, YouTube released their own YouTube Originals show called "Do You Want To See a Dead Body?".. You can Google this right now, I'm not making this up. 7) Both KSI & Logan were spotted in Dubai meeting boxing promoters BEFORE Logan even went to Japan. Logan's 'downfall' into his lucrative boxing 'redemption' pivot was preplanned. They planned to make Logan the villian to sell more boxing tickets. YouTube streamed & trended this event on their platform. Sources: (Full Archive) https://youtu.be/EQfEbFgzX90?si=ukjsnmhPNwmqH-xx (Shortened Version) https://youtu.be/S2iCMgxLyGM?si=pFhUjnmOxeZC-YRc

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wade_wilson44 Mar 16, 2026 +1

Look at Hell’s Kitchen. Look at American idol and simon cowell. Hell, look at the apprentice. It’s been a cornerstone of entertainment for decades. Generally people didn’t look up to those guys, they were dicks and it was just entertaining.

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BrianOBlivion1 Mar 15, 2026 +134

Alex Jones made himself a millionaire many times over feeding off the worst of people's paranoia and distrust of authority figures.

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RudeNargal Mar 15, 2026 +10

and NUTRACEUTICALS

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Odd_Communication545 Mar 15, 2026 +12

See I agree in some respect but I never thought he was originally profit driven. I think he became that way when he found success but his older stuff was genuine, rightly or wrongly. He believed what he was saying. He made a lot of predictions that have been proven right but as they say a broken clock is right twice a day. It's sad to see what he became. He used to rail against the corporate machine and then he became corporate and sided with the sexual predators. Old Alex Jones would hate new Alex Jones. 100% Him aligning with republicans who he used to routinely call demons and distance himself from is pretty desperate and you can smell the desperation from him. That sandy hook stuff really fucked him up He was genuinely entertaining at one point though. He was the literal definition of, "take it with a pinch of salt". He started going downhill in the late 2010s and I'll never forgive him for how he treated Peter Joseph (Zeitgeist movement) in 2007. He betrayed a lot of people who would give his show an ear.

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WDeranged Mar 15, 2026 +2

I hesitantly agree. Mid 2000s Alex Jones was no where near this bad.

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Drumming_Dreaming Mar 15, 2026 +12

Mid 2000’s Alex jones was a racist POS. He’s always been a lying a******. Check out Knowledge Fight podcast.

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Nerdlinger Mar 15, 2026 +126

No one ever went broke underestimating the ignorance of the American public. Similarly no one ever went broke underestimating the desire of people to get permission to be assholes to other people.

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foc_natzis Mar 15, 2026 +30

Put it this way: Trump bankrupted a c*****. Fleecing the deplorables will be his most profitable venture ever.

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iamdense Mar 15, 2026 +3

Unfortunately he's fleecing the rest of us along with the idiots who voted for him and buy into his grifts. And right now. I'm skeptical there will ever be consequences for him.

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dinkytoy80 Mar 15, 2026 +3

There wont, not for him not his family, his handlers, the rest of the party, the sc, etc, we are just gonna have to take it and see no consequences. Its the most frustrating about this f****** timeline.

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kevster2717 Mar 15, 2026 +28

I always think about shit like this and how much racist, sexist, and general ragebait content we consume on the daily *because* of how lucrative it is. I’m not the kindest or most generous person in the world but I think that sometimes maybe I would be in a much better position in life if I was a little bit more narcissistic and just be a shameless a******. Too bad I was raised with some morals and decency

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mosquem Mar 15, 2026 +8

I mean look at how much engagement gender wars bullshit gets on this site.

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FrancisPFuckery Mar 15, 2026 +25

Just watching this documentary now. These guys are all pieces of shit.

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panicky_in_the_uk Mar 15, 2026 +18

TopTip. If you ever get an email asking if you'd like to be the subject of an upcoming Louis Theroux documentary, you might want to have a good look at yourself.

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smallTimeCharly Mar 15, 2026 +3

I think that’s largely true but some of the early documentaries he did were just people who were a bit out there. Like weird weekends had demolition derby drivers and swingers and body builders and stuff. The body builders already probably look at themselves enough as it is!

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hubbawelcome Mar 15, 2026 +8

I wish Louis explored a bit more of the platform side of this. That engagement is engagement so the more rage-baity, the more offensive, the more people tap the comments, engage and push it further up the algorithm

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emccm Mar 15, 2026 +25

None of those men were capable of having a conversation about what they claim to believe and support. They totally fell apart the second the even thought they’d have to talk about it. All they do is scream insults at their women guests, then act like they won some intellectual debate and put everyone else in their place. I’ve never understood what attracted men to these manosphere grifters.

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clownsx2 Mar 15, 2026 +28

Like everything else that touches MAGA, it’s a grift.

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Easy-Marsupial3268 Mar 15, 2026 +19

Yes. The capitalist class has a vested interest in keeping the poors fighting one another. The “manosphere” and other manufactured outrage engines exist to do just that. The longer that we (the poors) keep fighting amongst ourselves the longer that they (the billionaires) have to keep draining society for their own benefit.

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UpsetCryptographer49 Mar 15, 2026 +5

Have you seen the views those channels get? It’s insane. Do all of them not have free will?

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Easy-Marsupial3268 Mar 15, 2026 +3

Hard to know how many of those views are valid and hard to know how pushed it is in the algorithm.

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UpsetCryptographer49 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Two things can be true 1) these channels are optimized for an algorithm to an audience that is very susceptible to advertising. 2) they have a large following.

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Easy-Marsupial3268 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Oh yeah, the education standards of the west are abysmal and still dropping. Capitalists don’t really need an educated workforce.

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DufflinMinder Mar 15, 2026 +4

Im a d*** on the internet…where’s my check?

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Jav0415 Mar 15, 2026 +3

Just watched his new movie this morning and it's kinda crazy how many people these guys reach and how many kids look up to them! Crazy to me, also that Louis Theroux was able to get the ones he talked to, to actually talk to them! Was a really good documentary

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THICKDadBod99 Mar 16, 2026 +3

They all have mommy and daddy issues

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whatsqwerty Mar 15, 2026 +4

Great watch. Love Louis

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bone-in_donuts Mar 15, 2026 +2

Azealia Banks used to put out music.

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Hungry_Flamingo4636 Mar 15, 2026 +2

He already proved it is profitable to be a d*** on TV but you generally need famous parents or connections.

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fltm29 Mar 16, 2026 +2

Selling your soul to the devil for money, fame or power famously works; until the devil wants his due

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BanishmentBuddy2 Mar 16, 2026 +2

It’s also highly profitable to be an antisemite.

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uhm_no_thanks_1 Mar 16, 2026 +2

Tbf it is highly profitable to be a d*** in real life too

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ralategas Mar 15, 2026 +5

no surprise there reddit proved that years ago

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rzr-12 Mar 15, 2026 +3

And on FOX ENTERTAINMENT NEWS

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Stoic_cave Mar 15, 2026 +2

Insecurity of ego feeds narcissism

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Hollow4004 Mar 15, 2026 +2

Hate is profitable in all forms

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Ok_Gas_7455 Mar 15, 2026 +2

You can get paid? I’ve been doing it for free. Damn it.

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One_Froyo505 Mar 15, 2026 +1

It's quite a monosphere here when you criticize the guy for his own recipe for success.

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viral-architect Mar 15, 2026 +1

Where is D*** Masterson?

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larevolutionaire Mar 15, 2026 +1

Easier for some of us.

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NarrMaster Mar 15, 2026 +1

Instructions unclear

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KalutikaKink Mar 15, 2026 +1

Can we please call it “The Manscape”?

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ScorpLeo102 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Not fully understanding this. Posting my d*** pics online to be safe. Possibly make some money too. Will update.

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dogoodsilence1 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Called gatekeepers who push ideologies on the youth

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Keshenji Mar 15, 2026 +1

Then where's my bag? Im a strongly opinionated person where's all my millions?

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ImpressionFeisty8359 Mar 15, 2026 +1

It is a sad sad world.

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B-Cup_Sydney_Sweeney Mar 16, 2026 +1

Just watched it over the weekend- very good doc!

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Leadjockey Mar 16, 2026 +1

WillPoulter.jpg

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Tess47 Mar 15, 2026 +1

I cant find a female version of the word "emasculate". I've also been pondering the part of society that has a need to create this word and why the female version wasnt invented or needed.

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Severed_Snake Mar 16, 2026 +1

Defeminize? You’re right theres no equivalent, interesting

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NarlusSpecter Mar 15, 2026 -1

Devaginate?

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ButterMyPancakesPlz Mar 15, 2026 +1

The fact that deriding comments count equally in the engagement algo means that you can be a terrible person firing people up and get rewarded for it by being shown to more people to rage at you until a certain impressionable segment of the population sees your exposure and equates it with respect and intelligence rather than just a spectacle.

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Chambanasfinest Mar 15, 2026 +1

You might even end up as the President of the United States!

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dextercho83 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Who are these women that want these guys?? Is money really worth giving up self-respect or dignity

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No-Philosopher3248 Mar 15, 2026 +1

Can’t stand of these “manosphere” assholes. I’ve never clicked a single one of their videos. Personally, I think Connor McGregor should be featured in an MMA bout where he takes on all these douchebags and beats the living shit out of all them. Put that on the White House lawn.

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Conan-Da-Barbarian Mar 15, 2026 -6

Plenty of p*** proves it

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UnpluggedUnfettered Mar 15, 2026 +7

There are a lot of shitty practices in that industry, but that is not at all what this is about.

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robot_heart420 Mar 15, 2026

Oh yeah? So where's my money jackass?

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apartmen1 Mar 15, 2026 -8

Wow very interesting stuff. Who knew.

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albamarx Mar 15, 2026 +20

Then there’s you, being a d*** for free. For the love of the game.

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Feisty-Weird-9941 Mar 15, 2026 +7

You’ve got to respect the passion

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apartmen1 Mar 15, 2026 +1

As a certified hater? Yes.

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