Macron Pledges France Will Stand By Greece Against Turkey In Historic Visit

NATO attacks both

The one getting attacked first is the only one that has any right to invoke it, as far as I understand it.

Whoever is defending.

NATO will send two furious letters, in bold font.

whoever buys the most trumpcoin and invests in jared kushner's companies 

given that the most likely aggressor would be turkey, at leas all the European nato allies will side with Greece. Not just by claiming to honor the article 5, but also because turkey has spent 20+ years being antagonistic against the EU and European nations, they have burnt any and all bridges with potential supporters that would argue to side with them in a war against Greece. There is a very good reason they are called a Mediterranean version of ruzzia.

Nobody. They fought over Cyprus in the 70s, thousands of dead on both sides, NATO did not get involved. Even though the political consequences were severe since Turkey won that war, occupied northern Cyprus and the Greek government collapsed. It seems things would have to _really_ escalate for NATO to do anything.

Usually when turkey is confronted by greece i find it in aisle 5

Nope, it didn't. nothing new… Greece (coincidentally, after its meeting with Israel :) reiterated that it could extend its maritime borders again (Turkey had said years ago that they could resolve this through the median line since the Aegean Sea is a closed sea, otherwise if it extends to 12 miles, they would consider it a cause for war because if it goes from 6 miles to 12 miles, Turkey gets squeezed, but of course this isn't presented that way by Europe). Anyway, as always, the West creates the news first, then designates the target,  typical perception operation. Turkey, of course, is in the position of scapegoat due to being the successor state. In other words, the West presents "the violation of airspace by Turkish warplanes following Greece's militarization of the islands contrary to the agreement" to the media as "the Turks violated Greece’s airspace," but ofc there is no details and France comes out and says they support it. It's been like this for years. :) Some fool will also come under this comment and say the exact opposite but won't be able to prove it. When the world shifts away from the Western axis, ( already its ) when their fuel runs out, you'll see what kind of wars they'll start. ( they already started plenty of it)  This is civilization! And years later, in digital history books, there will be discussions about how hypocritical Western civilizations were and how Eastern civilizations were exploited lol This is future ! To be continued 

NATO is dead anyway, I’m pretty if other countries even decided to get involved in the first place they would just side with whoever’s more convenient for them.

Use your powers for good and book a trip to Moscow! Maybe that'll get rid of Putin. 

I recommend you dont book a trip to: 1. East asia 2. Indian subcontinent  3. Middle east 4. Eastern Europe and the Caucasus  5. Western Europe  6. Africa in general 7. Caribbean  8. North American  9. Central America  10. Greenland 11. Falkland islands I recommend you book a trip to:  1. Antarctica - at least if anything goes wrong there. There's a chance we get Antarctica space nazis. 2. Australia - invasion of the giant deadly [insert Australia animal here] 3. New Zealand - if everything goes wrong the millionaires hideaway goes first

Don’t start the WW3 by planning a visit to Taiwan

I guess it’s too late for us now, looking at your track record

I'm sure both countries will respect your holiday schedule man and put all hostilities aside. It's all about you after all!

How about you stop going to places and start wars all over the place? just stay home brother. You alone will be responsible for WW3 and WW4 with that track record 😂

Nothing is going to happen my friend. Both Greek and Turkish politicians like to talk about war, invasions etc but both our countries will be on the verge of destruction if the war lasts more than a month. Nothing is happening or will happen

Go to Jordan. Super worth it

Just do a staycation mate

Sounds about right. The self-proclaimed moral westerners pretending to be anti-war, anti-genocide. In reality they only get worked up when they are mildly inconvenienced with higher gas prices and cancelled airplanes for Instagram travels.

Dont worry nothing will come out of it unless greece does something stupid (which they wont) This kind of debates goes on since ages and its all there to show off. And why i said unless greece does something stupid? Because in Turkey noone even talks about greece or greeks anymore. Discussions start after greece does something, like the one you see on the post lol

They have been in a constant low tension conflict for a century now

It's been like 3000 years, remembre that battle with a giant horse ? 

turkey regularly threaten and antagonize Greece, most often but not limited to whenever they have "elections".

Greece and Turkey don't get along. Greece likes play on this to pretend it is europe's underappreciated bulwalk against ottoman aggression or some shit and can they please have more money.

A lot of anti Turkey rhetoric recently indeed. Something is happening soon.

Maybe a false flag attack on Greece, and Israel steps in to defend democracy and the western values?

I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Without ending the Ukraine/Russia war or the one in the Middle East. That would put too much pressure on Europes trade routes from Asia

I think it’s more safe to say that Turkey wouldn’t start the war. Because there is almost no country in the world would support Turkey against Greece.

"We all know Greece wouldn’t start sht in the first place so Turkey would be the aggressor." Such a naive and shallow take. Geopolitics don't work that way. This is all about Israel's expansion. Cyprus flooding with Israeli's. Greece fully supporting Israel even though their people hate it and protest it very openly. Israel has been saying Turkey is next. Turkey would say Greece bad and there would thousands of headlines and sanctions in a minute. There is not a single scenario Turkey benefits from and conflict with Israel or Greece.

Greece literally tried to coup and annex Cyprus

Enjoy nato without the Turkish military then lol If we've learned anything in the past 20 years in geopolitics it's that the west will always spin their narrative to appease the stronger party (primarily the party that's alligned with the US).

> Macron, when asked what stance his country would take if Greece were threatened by Turkey, was clear: > "If Turkey threatened Greece, we would be here. We would be present. Look at what we did that difficult summer, look at our stance in Cyprus. For me, this is the true definition of friendship. This is exactly what the Greek-French alliance expresses. Alliance and friendship are not complex concepts; they are something very simple: when the critical moment comes, you don't wonder what you will do the next day. You already know what you have to do. If sovereignty is threatened, know that we will be here," President Macron emphasized categorically.

Damn you straight up lied homie.

Or maybe it's just to show support for a member state? You know, Greece treats this very seriously, and there are declassified Turkish documents talking about an invasion in the early 2010s tht was deriled because France put troops in the region.

No they are not. But let's say that if Greece is above 3% of GDP spending it's not because they are afraid of Russia.

The tip of the iceberg: https://www.foreign.senate.gov/press/dem/release/chairman-menendez-delivers-floor-speech-condemning-erdogans-threat-to-attack-athens-with-ballistic-missiles https://verfassungsblog.de/what-happened-at-the-greece-turkey-border-in-early-2020/

no. they are allies. both far right nationalists in both these countries would love some confrontation.