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News & Current Events Apr 2, 2026 at 12:30 PM

Macron Says Trump Weakens NATO by Casting Doubt on US ...

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nixstyx Apr 2, 2026 +274
If ever a foreign country was able to install a puppet president in the US with the goal of eroding the country and its standing on the world stage, I have a hard time seeing how their actions would significantly differ from Trump's.
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Blades1 Apr 2, 2026 +53
Trump has geniously unfolded that plot during his current term.
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gmelech Apr 2, 2026 +51
I agree. He is implementing the Russian agenda to the letter. How come the US leaders, Congress, senate, media aren't reacting to this. I can't believe they are all cowards.
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TemporarySun314 Apr 2, 2026 +15
Not to mention Americans, who wanted that and elected the idiot fascist twice...
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Ognius Apr 2, 2026 +15
Because they’re all owned by a cabal of pedophiles from the Epstein Class.
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MentokGL Apr 2, 2026 +6
Their existence is also part of the russian agenda how many of those elected leaders have taken money from the nra and similar orgs? that's russian money.
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hornswoggled111 Apr 2, 2026 +2
He's much more weird than just being on Russias side. Look what he has done to Syria, Cuba, Venezuela and Cuba. Those were Russian buddies and he just blew them up in various ways. America have a toddler with adhd the keys to the car and walked away.
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SyncroTDi Apr 2, 2026 +1
I have no doubt as to the weakness of character found in most politicians.
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Lower_Cantaloupe1970 Apr 2, 2026 +4
They probably would make them less stupid and try to appeal to more people, but this worked too.
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IamDDT Apr 2, 2026
Don't blame anyone but the American people. Two-thirds of them either wanted this, or couldn't be bothered to vote against it. It didn't take a foreign government to destroy the US, we did it to ourselves.
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Front_Promise_5991 Apr 2, 2026 +96
All this noise. How I am tired of the American political culture. Shouting, beating and threatening. OK, NATO can survive even without the US.
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coconutpiecrust Apr 2, 2026 +40
He’s doing it assist Putin. That’s it. 
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Janesays18 Apr 2, 2026 +9
Syria, the migrant crisis, Cambridge analytical, brexit, Orban. Putin has been playing a long game. He is weak call his bluff
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asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf Apr 2, 2026 +5
there is a twist - US never practically engaged with russia in direct conflict, not so Europeans which have extended experience doing so being exposed to the horde in all kinds of forms for centuries.
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Darkone539 Apr 2, 2026 +5
>OK, NATO can survive even without the US. It can, but there are capabilities we need to urgently invest in to ensure we're covering everything.
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Aldren Apr 2, 2026 +10
The rest of NATO will just reform under a different banner if the US pulls out Its very nice to have such a super power in NATO but Europe will be just fine without them
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zarbizarbi Apr 2, 2026 +16
NATO is a coalition of many countries with millions of soldiers to hold against « Russia ». With out the US it will still be a collation of many countries with millions of soldiers. And apparently it only takes one country, with less than 1/2 million soldiers to hold against Russia… We will indeed be fine.
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Janesays18 Apr 2, 2026 +3
Exactly just call Putins bluff
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ClaroStar Apr 3, 2026 +1
It's worth remembering that the only country that has ever activated Article 5 to take advantage of NATO protection is the United States of America after 911. Not sure that Trump actually knows that.
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Heavy_Secret_203 Apr 2, 2026 -16
What is NATO without the US? European countries and Canada? Europeans have limited armies, no central command, limited nuclear capabilities, and nothing comparable to B1 and B2. And worth mentioning heavy dependence on American technologies. The US will lose a lot, but still will be capable of many things, while Europe will be left defenseless and will be forced to change its way of living to fix newly discovered issues. If NATO tries to survive without the US, European citizens may not like the cost of it at all.
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oivaizmir Apr 3, 2026 +1
Well the paradigm of war is changing in real time, with a lot of US assets like aircraft carriers and manned aircraft looking like yesteryear, and ultra c**** AI led fibre optic drones fed off a drone dhow as the future. Europe/Rump NATO can leverage Ukraine insights to grow their military might. The sort of insights the US should have learned prior to Iran. The economies of rump-NATO are more than adequate for a world class military, they just need to get their shit together, and there has been a lot of progress towards that end in the last few years, Trump is making decades happen in months.
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Sidepie Apr 2, 2026 +32
There are about 10 to 20 people on this planet, and if we were to relocate them to the moon with Artemis 3, we would suddenly be rid of a whole lot of problems.
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Prior_Industry Apr 3, 2026 +1
Doing a quick roll call on my head, it's interesting how many of them are based in the US given it's supposed to be the leader of the free world...
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leaf_biking Apr 2, 2026
I can get behind this idea.
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NoSwordfish6949 Apr 2, 2026 +15
Trump weakens everything he touches to make the wealthy even more wealthy.
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_side_ Apr 2, 2026 +6
That is what he was elected for.
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uprightshark Apr 2, 2026 +15
What if that is by design. Remember, Trump is Putins asset
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Temples_of_Syrinx_ Apr 2, 2026 +3
Let’s scrap NATO all together and start a new alliance with the still-civilized countries of the world, includind SK, Japan, Australia, N-Z and maybe some Mercosur countries. It’s time for the world to man up and formally divorce with the US.
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Brilliant_Version344 Apr 2, 2026 +5
Trump doesn’t even know that nato is for the North Atlantic not the bail out trump club
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noir_lord Apr 2, 2026 +5
EATO - European Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Atlantic because Canada). We can deal with Russia even (perhaps especially) without the United States.
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truttatrotta Apr 2, 2026 +5
That’s the whole point.
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WardenEdgewise Apr 2, 2026 +1
Trump and his administration are a threat to humanity. The mental illness and corruption are beyond comprehension.
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h0ls86 Apr 3, 2026 +1
He once said NATO and I quote, “Is a brain dead alliance”. Well it is now for sure… you have to be careful what you wish for.
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GarbageThrown Apr 2, 2026 +1
Trump weakens everything he’s a part of.
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Durzel Apr 2, 2026 -14
Trump/America wouldn't be there for NATO anyway unless it served his interests. If Russia attacked a country that is part of NATO, the US would do nothing and would probably blame the victim, as it has done with Ukraine. NATO is a paper tiger as things stand.
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CantFeelMyToesAgain Apr 2, 2026 +18
NATO is not a paper tiger lol. 
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truttatrotta Apr 2, 2026 -2
Trump has done everything to weaken it to that point.
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MentalGainz1312 Apr 2, 2026 +2
There are a few more countries in Nato. If we are attacked Trump will chicken out. Orban and Fico, too. The rest won't.
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Durzel Apr 2, 2026 +7
If we were attacked by someone he/US doesn't like then I think they'd participate, but otherwise - no. If Russia decided to attack a NATO country, I don't think the US would get involved - it's as simple as that. They (Trump) would say that the country provoked it, "didn't have the cards" or whatever. His attitude to everything is that it is transactional, quid pro quo. It's an uncomfortable truth but I don't know why anyone would put any faith in America having any NATO countries back the way things are currently.
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solapelsin Apr 2, 2026 -1
Who does he dislike, that isn't in NATO and could realistically have an interest in attacking one of us?
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Durzel Apr 2, 2026 +2
It's a hypothetical. Maybe I should have said a country he is indifferent to, or doesn't consider them more valuable from a business relationship point of view.
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truttatrotta Apr 2, 2026 -1
Exactly. The fact is he is a Russian asset and Russia is the country that would attack NATO. Anybody who thinks Russia gaining from absolutely everything he does is just an accident is delusional.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 Apr 2, 2026 +1
Even without the US, the combined forces of Europe would annihilate Russia. It’s completely gutted and broke. Ukraine has weakened it so much that they wouldn’t be capable of organizing enough force and materiel to invade anything major. Hell, Poland alone could probably defeat Russia in a conventional conflict.
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CantFeelMyToesAgain Apr 2, 2026 +1
Yeah and it’s still here. NATO will always be a thing regardless of peoples thoughts on it. He’s tried time and time again to weaken it but the reality is smaller countries will always ally up together.  I legitimately don’t see how the average person is unable to understand this.  Even IF the US leaves, NATO will still be a thing, the US will become the paper tiger because nobody will buy weapons from them and the the UK/France will take over as they already have done for Ukraine.
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konawolv Apr 2, 2026 +1
Ukraine is not a NATO member
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Durzel Apr 2, 2026 +4
Where did I say they were?
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konawolv Apr 2, 2026 +2
you leveraged Ukraine as an example of why America would not honor NATO. The only way that would logically be coherent is if Ukraine was a NATO member. Instead, the entire reason the United States has not overtly come to the defense of Ukraine is because they ARENT a part of NATO. Despite that, the US has provided weapons and funding to Ukraine to assist them despite them not being NATO. The Ukraine argument actually backfires and disproves your point.
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Durzel Apr 2, 2026 +2
>Instead, the entire reason the United States has not overtly come to the defense of Ukraine is because they ARENT a part of NATO. I think you're just wrong about this, no offence. I don't believe America would come to Ukraine's defence if they were part of NATO, for the same reasons that they currently lean towards supporting Russia despite them being the aggressor - e.g. suggesting that Ukraine give up Donbas, etc, tying help to a minerals deal, etc. etc We have no way of knowing how America would respond if Ukraine had been part of NATO when they were attacked. You have a more optimistic view than I do, and believe that Trump would suddenly NOT be critical of them, victim blame them, say they should give up territory etc. I happen to thnk Trump would just find a way of not helping, even if it meant not being part of NATO. The idea that he is bound by anything at all defies everything else we've seen. I said that Trump/US would blame a NATO country if it were attacked, "as it has done with Ukraine". I thought that was pretty clear, even though it was part of the same sentence. In terms of providing weapons & funding, that is something that was taken on from previous admin, and even Trump realises the optics of withdrawing support completely would not play well with the US voter base (or the world) who see Russia as the old cold war enemy. Instead he gaslights & victim blames Ukraine, ties support to transactional deals, etc.
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konawolv Apr 2, 2026
Youre letting your own bias dictate what should be a logically coherent argument. >I don't believe America would come to Ukraine's defence if they were part of NATO This is your bias from your own opinion, but it holds no weight in a logical argument. If you want to prove that the United States would not come to the aid of another NATO nation if it was attacked, then you need provide evidence of how they havent done it before. Stating the functional equivalent of "oh, because they havent aided a non-NATO nation in the precise way that i feel like they should have, they wont aid any actual NATO nations" just simply wouldnt stand. IF the united states put boots on the ground in Ukraine and fought for Ukraine against Russia, it would be an act of War by NATO against Russia which would precipitate a larger scale conflict, since it would drag all of NATO into it. Also, your stance on Ukraine "giving up territory" speaks volumes to your lack of historical knowledge of the conflict over Crimea, and its history. The fact that Ukraine is receiving any aid from the United States is dangerous enough, and is absolutely hostile towards Russia, not pro-Russia. But, that walks this discussion down an alternate path and obscures the original intent of the exchange, which is to prove that using the Ukraine as an example for your point is completely and utterly flawed.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 Apr 2, 2026
Not a paper tiger, just a dead treaty organization.
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Ultra_Metal Apr 2, 2026 -28
European nations weakened NATO by not spending enough of their own defense and forcing the US to shoulder most of the burden.
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bsnimunf Apr 2, 2026 +13
US spent the money because it wanted to because all the arms manufacturers lobby for it. Also guess where alot of the European nations spend their defence budget money..  you guessed it with U. S companies. That's what NATO is to people politicians like trump a big chunk of money that flows through your military companies 
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 Apr 2, 2026 +7
It’s also how the US projects power. Without bases in other countries, it’s just a regional power with delusions of exceptionalism. Their membership in NATO is worthless at this point anyway because they are erratic, unreliable and dangerous. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
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latrickisfalone Apr 2, 2026 -1
I think they’ll turn their attention to Greenland straight after Iran, claiming that the Europeans aren’t reliable allies and that Greenland is essential to US security. They’ll play the LNG supply blackmail card now that they’ve destroyed the Middle East’s export capacity.
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Ultra_Metal Apr 2, 2026 -21
The US spent the money because if the US didn't spend the money, Russia and China would take over the world.
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too-oldforthis-shit Apr 2, 2026 +5
Your president is doing his best to help them accomplish that.
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Ok-Blackberry-3534 Apr 2, 2026 +10
Really? Russia is busy trying to take over a field in Donbas and China doesn't appear to be invading anyone.
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CockchopsMcGraw Apr 2, 2026
Your president and others in his govt are Russian assets you utter clown
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Ultra_Metal Apr 3, 2026 +1
I don't support Trump. You can say whatever you want about him. Insults make shitty arguments. You proved me right!
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UpDownLeftRightABLoL Apr 2, 2026
Honestly, Trump's actions help them both. Maybe moving fast and breaking things isn't diplomacy.
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ashsavors Apr 2, 2026 +14
Burden? It’s called soft power. That’s how the US maintained influence for favourable trade up to this point. Also, my dead relatives and fellow Canadians who aided the US in most of its recent wars would like a f****** word.
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Ultra_Metal Apr 2, 2026 -20
NATO is about hard power, not soft power.
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HistorianExcellent Apr 2, 2026 +6
That might have been the case during the Cold War when the European nations did not have the capacity to keep up with the Soviet war machine, but it is not now. The US are not spending 900 billion a year on defense to protect Poland, they are doing it to keep up with China. Just a little bit of steady nerve would have been more than enough to deter Russia.
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YusoLOCO Apr 2, 2026 +5
Narrow minded American, as always
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Sterbs Apr 3, 2026 +1
> "forcing the US to shoulder most of the burden." LMAO - Y'all have *no idea* how power actually works. Its amazing how all the "aMeRiCa FiRsT" dipshits can care so much about America looking "strong" on the world stage, but somehow *not* understand that America's global military presence was for *American interests.* Nobody forced *America* into military dominance. *America forced itself on the world.*
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