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Lorenzoak Mar 24, 2026 +2581

Ah yes, the author of "The Art of the Deal." His entire master class negotiation strategy literally just boils down to throwing a partisan tantrum and refusing to govern, even when his own party hands him a perfectly viable off ramp on a silver platter. Masterful gambit, sir.

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Prize_Proof5332 Mar 24, 2026 +710

Possibly the worst negotiator in history.

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la-fours Mar 24, 2026 +304

But the conservative sub assured me this was 5D chess. You’re not saying they’re mistaken are you? Lots of smart bots in there.

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Diet_Coke Mar 24, 2026 +130

I'll have you know Ivan from Moscow worked very hard to program those bots to accurately regurgitate rightwing talking points

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Oprah_Pwnfrey Mar 24, 2026 +24

Excuse me? I am authentic American cowman, and must disputes this bad thing being said about a great motherland to many fine peoples. I never visit but have been told that no such things exist in this Moscow you mention.

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causabibamus Mar 24, 2026 +19

I am Jhon Droper, from Texas Oblast in Southern District. We have warm water port and top 10 economy, very much oil. Tell me again why we need clowns in Washington District of Colombia giving us all this crook orders?

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Flomo420 Mar 24, 2026 +6

And then he smashed the computer with a hammer a couple of times to get it down to MAGA level

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Pockydo Mar 24, 2026 +52

I know that sub is mostly bots but it'd genuinely hilarious to watch them come up with all sorts of explanations as to why the dementia addled chaos is actually a masterful gambit of epic proportions

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CaterpillarJungleGym Mar 24, 2026 +29

If you get to it early enough it's not all bots. There are real conservatives that are frustrated. It's always heart warming to see people using their brains instead of parroting talking points.

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OkMail2335 Mar 24, 2026 +38

You see this when something happens that wasn't foreseen, for example, when the United Healthcare CEO was shot or Charlie Kirk. There is a brief period of time when Conservatives do not know what to say yet, because they haven't been told what to say, so they actually try to have a real opinion. It's mostly a lot of "what if it's a false flag" type of infant thoughts but there is the occasional epiphany like "Idk guys, maybe we ramped up the violence too much?" But of course, *very* quickly the talking points get handed down by the Heritgate Foundation's propaganda apparatus to the right-wing influencers and news media and then the sub (and right-wingers in general) are all back to being NPC's and anyone diverting from those are immediately banned.

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CaterpillarJungleGym Mar 24, 2026 +16

I like dunking on them, but let's be clear the mods of the sub limit what people can say and limit what people can see. It's the mods that have the marching orders and force the others to get in line. It's the reason that something like 25% of that sub comes from like 3 posters.

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OkMail2335 Mar 24, 2026 +6

Absolutely, I mentioned that at the end there (sorry I did try to ninja edit my comment so not sure if you saw that) because that is a component of it. But everything I said before that are things you can see before the ban hammers begin being put down, because even the mods have no idea what opinion they're supposed to have yet, evidently. But yes, by the time the talking points are propagated the bans go into full effect, which is also why it's difficult to see what I am talking about retroactively. You have to kind of see it in real-time.

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Get_Breakfast_Done Mar 24, 2026 +36

I'm a conservative so I gather this probably won't be popular to say here. I used to be flaired there. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, 2020, or 2024. I disagreed early and often with him in this administration. In the first 2-3 weeks after he was inaugurated, I responded to anyone there that the tariffs (at that time he was particularly targeting Canada and Mexico) were short-sighted, would raise the cost of living even more, and ultimately were bad for Americans. Pro-Trump conservatives called me "fake", reported my comments as liberal brigading, and I got banned from the subreddit. It's not even conservative anymore. I don't think it's necessarily fair to say it's all "bots", it's just a big MAGA circlejerk. They have no principles, they just want to "own the libs."

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GodofIrony Mar 24, 2026 +7

Removing r/TheDonald was a mistake that caused the cancer to infect the entire site.

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CaterpillarJungleGym Mar 24, 2026 +4

I don't think you should get downvoted for sharing your experience. It's not just a big circle jerk, it essentially bullying to try to get everyone to say the same thing and think the same thing.

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gdex86 Mar 24, 2026 +4

This is the monster the conservative movement made though. The arch small government fiscally restrictive pro buisnless types knew they could win by tying themselves to those who were upset by the civil rights movement championed by the democratic party. The southern strategy mixed with the desire to marry politics to evangelical politics lead to the talk radio era of the 80s and 90s where they celebrated the nasty attacks at politicians they didn't like where Rush Limbaugh became a huge face of the movement is a core part of the movement. We can draw the direct line from that to the birtherism which elevated trump. This is Conservative. The base was trained to want this so this is what now governs things. Hell the fact tgat Mitt Romney left the senate rather than deal with this shows that the old conservative movement no longer can even restrain this. Its damn near tge horror trope of a apocalyptic log of the scientist who makes a monstrosity only to be eaten by it.

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obsterwankenobster Mar 24, 2026 +8

I went in there the other day and it was literally the same 2 accounts replying to every single comment about "pearl clutching" and "being brigaded by fake conservatives" It they weren't bots, I can't imagine what those people smell like

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Repulsive-Chip3371 Mar 24, 2026 +5

*insert "they're here" gif*

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PhilDGlass Mar 24, 2026 +6

They really do think he’s smart don’t they? That he’s the hero in this drama and at the end there will be the big reveal. Or a rapture, whichever is most convenient. Just blows my mind.

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Grenflik Mar 24, 2026 +8

I can only imagine what’s going on in that hellscape of a sub.

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Tandy2000 Mar 24, 2026 +18

I actually read the conservative sub/other conservative spaces to get a feel for how they are feeling, out of morbid curiosity. I will say: I have seen very little support for this war. Their takes are still absolutely gross at every imaginable turn, but pretty much every time Trump makes some new proclamation aabout this war they're just like "why is he doing this" or "what the f*** is he thinking" or "knock it the f*** off". I don't think they would consider dropping support for him, or supporting anybody else. They think about all this in terms of polling and how it will threaten Republican control. It's not about the people dying in Iran or the US ceding its power or the US doing everything Israel says for no benefit of its own. It's about how Trump's missteps here will cost them when the midterms come, and they are convinced the midterms will be a massacre for the Republicans, especially because they don't believe Trump will interfere with the elections at all. I think in all the time Trump has been in office I've only seen this attitude from them twice: 1) his repeated attempts to block the Epstein files, which they don't believe indicates guilt on his part, but they think he needs to stop blocking them in order to stop *looking* bad, and 2) this war. What I am coming to realize is that I think the Trump veneer has worn off, and a lot of conservatives don't actually support him or like him any more, except in the capacity that he enables Republican power and provides down-ticket results (or at least that's what they believe, and was true previously). This is actually a bad thing, because it means when the next Republican comes along they'll vote for them full-throatedly and aren't just attracted to Republicanism because of Trump.

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ElectricalLeading913 Mar 24, 2026 +5

>or the US doing everything Israel says for no benefit of its own. oh, i'd beg to differ on this point. i'd say about half of them are on board with this take as it's a great way for them to justify their antisemitic views. feelings toward israel are the only real thing that that seems to cross party lines these days. you've got people that support, and decry israel on both sides. it's kinda weird.

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Bill_Brasky_SOB Mar 24, 2026 +3

Look, if he doesn't read or receive the military briefings, or have any semblance of a plan to an end to the war, he can't tweet about them, which also means the Russians can't give intelligence to the Iranians, which in turn is keeping our troops safe. It's 5D Chess.

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geologicalnoise Mar 24, 2026 +3

I think they may think chess is some form of food.

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IrritableGourmet Mar 24, 2026 +11

Being a brash, boorish thug works as a negotiation tactic when sexually assaulting women in changing rooms, but when you're negotiating with bureaucracies *older than some letters of the alphabet*, it doesn't get you far.

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Chocolate_Bourbon Mar 24, 2026 +22

His superpowers are his complete lack of shame, his absolute narcissism, his confident charm, and his flexible relationship with the truth. All have served him well over the years. He has done untold damage to the world, but for him it’s succeeded beyond anyone’s wildest dreams.

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GenoThyme Mar 24, 2026 +14

I still don't get the "confident charm" bit I see all the time, or people saying he's funny at times. I've never once seen it, even before I knew so much about how horrible he actually is as a human. In the one season I watched of Celeb Apprentice with my then girlfriend who liked the show, I couldn't stand him even then. I don't see any appeal. Never have and obviously now never will. He sucked so hard on that show even with editors and producers doing what they could to make him look good. I just don't get it.

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captainthanatos Mar 24, 2026 +10

I’m reminded of back in the day The Oatmeal did a review of Twilight, besides how hilarious it was, the main takeaway was that the main character was devoid of any real personality. This meant the reader can easily insert themselves into her position just like wearing a pair of pants. I think that’s why his mannerisms work on a certain part of the population. He says soooooo many incomplete thoughts that they just insert themselves thinking that snippet is referring to something they want and then don’t think about it further.

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ThatPancreatitisGuy Mar 24, 2026 +5

I had a professor in college that insisted we watch the show. Couldn’t stand it. He’s odious. Even if I agreed with everything he says I couldn’t stand listening to him say it and the fact that anyone finds him appealing is bewildering. The cadence, the mannerisms, the weird centaur stance, the cotton candy hair and orange grease paint. None of that seems remotely appealing. My suspicion is that very few people actually find him charming. They like that he’s an a****** and upsets the people they don’t like but I can’t imagine most people actually find him appealing on a personal level divorced from his politics and bile.

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springlake Mar 24, 2026 +4

>"I do whine because I want to win and I'm not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win" Trump has never actually negotiated in his life.

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SlendyIsBehindYou Mar 24, 2026 +5

Our family story that I cling to in these dark times is that back in the 80s, my great-uncle was trying to offload a yacht. Trump was a potential buyer, but sent his wife at the time to handle the deal instead of coming personally. This, naturally, offended my great-uncle. But he also quickly realized that the woman had absolutely no idea what she was doing, so he ended up selling it for WAY over it's value to her. Dumb f*** never had the art of the deal.

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Tvnph Mar 24, 2026 +8

It surprised everyone how poorly he could negotiate. Nobody has ever seen someone negotiate so horribly before. They said "Sir (and snickered) how have you negotiated anything as badly and as utterly uselessly as you have?" s/

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Xtj8805 Mar 24, 2026 +3

We have all known this. People just forget the amount of stories that would come out of his business dealings, his dtaff would purposefully negotiate to a good offer but knowing Trump likes to come in last minute and get his own pound of flesh, they would instruct contractors to further inflate their negotitations so that Teump could win at negotiating by getting the contractor down to the already agreed on contract value. The difference is in a democracy you cant have your staff secretly negotiate a budget/bill/etc because its all public so now he believes he is so talented he can always move the needle personally at the end.

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Aron_Wolff Mar 24, 2026 +2

Certainly the least intelligent.

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coconutpiecrust Mar 24, 2026 +56

Well, their goal is the destruction of civilized society and return to barbarism, so in their rotten worm-eaten brains they are indeed winning.

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amateurbreditor Mar 24, 2026 +18

they didnt have to do a thing. the people already turned into brain rotten zombies. have you driven in traffic? Its nearly impossible now. I bet the average person uses their phone 10+ hours per day. There is nothing left of most americans. Its just like that new movie. people have no attention spans. you can literally start talking to someone and then they reach for their phones. they cant even help it. I say something to my wife and she starts looking at her phone again. And it works great for voting because no one even uses their phones to learn or read the news so no one knows or cares anymore. no one gives a shit. time to look at my phone.

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Skiinz19 Mar 24, 2026 +10

Hey I read this on my phone!

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One_Olive_8933 Mar 24, 2026 +110

It’s part of the plan. Notice how his little legislation his last term had done, compared to how much confusion and chaos was created. This time he’s just using more EO’s, and given how much chaos and scandals we’ve seen already, on the BBB was passed… it’s really all to profit off his office as much as possible, and dismantle safeguards so his buddies can profit too..

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SlayerBVC Mar 24, 2026 +47

OBBBA = One Big Beautiful Bill Act BBB = Build Back Better Come to think of it, this was probably deliberate on the part of the GOP think tanks.

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joranth Mar 24, 2026 +18

Don’t forget the pics of him and BuBBa

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PM_me_a_nip Mar 24, 2026 +17

Never forget, Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.

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VinDog_PD Mar 24, 2026 +7

Ok so first off, I dislike them both. *That being said,* I'd argue they are both the reason why the GOP Senate is unwilling to kill the filibuster now so...

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HauntedCemetery Mar 24, 2026 +4

It absolutely was.

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e_pilot Mar 24, 2026 +3

thanks Obbba

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Backwardspellcaster Mar 24, 2026 +65

He doesnt want to govern. He wants to rule. The GOP lets him

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Pale-Hour3650 Mar 24, 2026 +20

He thinks he is the ruler of the world. Every few days he rattles off a different country HE says is bad and needs to go. When will enough people decide it’s time for him to go?

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Tacoman404 Mar 24, 2026 +5

Hopefully November (or January technically) But the party of felons and rapists want to make that impossible. I think I'm just going to start [Removed by Reddit] anyone who still calls themselves a republican after that if they can't remove him.

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soapinthepeehole Mar 24, 2026 +12

This is the right answer. He hasn’t done a single goddamn thing that helps average Americans in five years of being president. Meanwhile, he doesn’t give a shit if you have to wait 6 hours at security in an airport or if a TSA agent doesn’t get paid as long as it doesn’t affect him personally. And he’s refusing to budge unless Congress passes The SAVE Act, which is designed to help him personally by retaining Congress and avoiding impeachment. Since his only design and only real motivating force is to not be accountable to anyone, this all lines up. And the only ones who can hold him accountable at present are congressional republicans who have no interest in doing so.

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eulen-spiegel Mar 24, 2026 +20

> Ah yes, the author of "The Art of the Deal." He didn't. > even when his own party hands him a perfectly viable off ramp on a silver platter It's not viable for him, because he believes he needs the SAVE act to survive. Nothing else matters.

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Polantaris Mar 24, 2026 +9

Which honestly is a silver lining (so long as it remains not passed). If he so adamantly believes that, to the point where everything else is rejected on its face, then it means his masters have been saying it too, which suggests truth to the need.

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Chemical-Ebb6472 Mar 24, 2026 +13

You know he didn't write any of those books himself, right? Like always, he just slapped his name and likeness over someone elses work.

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The_Flurr Mar 24, 2026 +8

His background is in property development. In his mind a "deal" is about screwing over someone with less wealth/power than you. He's used to getting that because he began with wealth and power. He genuinely doesn't understand that some deals can be mutually beneficial. He thinks that if the other guy is happy, he must have been screwed over.

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CryptographerNo923 Mar 24, 2026 +6

Crybully tactics will work a lot of the time, though they usually have diminishing returns. He has an entire media and political apparatus excusing his failures via propaganda. And he has a cult following that quite literally believes he can do no wrong. It’s not surprising that this is the only strategy he ever uses. But we may have elevated the actual worst possible choice for the leader of a democratic nation to the worst imaginable position.

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Different_Victory_89 Mar 24, 2026 +3

Kakistocracy!

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SasparillaTango Mar 24, 2026 +6

Donald Trump has never "negotiated" from anything other than the seat of overwhelming advantage, and even then he gets shit deals. Billionaire Nepo baby with the largest military on earth can't get a deal with Iran. But Obama did, without a single missile fired or a single american killed.

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superanth Mar 24, 2026 +30

>John Kennedy, 74, told Fox News’ The Will Cain Show on Monday that he and Republican colleague Ted Cruz had drawn up a two-step path out of the shutdown. That was to take Democrats’ offer to reopen the rest of the DHS, then pass ICE funding separately through reconciliation, where Republicans would not need Democratic votes. >Kennedy said the 79-year-old president rejected it. “No deals with the Democrats,” the Louisiana senator said Trump told them. “It would have worked. We could have had TSA paid by the end of the week.” It's nice seeing a Kennedy do some good for the country again. And seeing one that's sane.

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19683dw Mar 24, 2026 +45

You're giving him credit he doesn't deserve

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DefiThrowaway Mar 24, 2026 +5

Yeah, f*** him and his 'awww shucks' good old boy fighting the elites, when he's a 5th generation elite.

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AScienceExpert Mar 24, 2026 +7

Just for the record, John Kennedy is not a member of the Kennedy political family. He just has the same last name.

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CrackingToastGromet Mar 24, 2026 +8

I have to say I am surprised that Kennedy would be open about this. I hate to grasp at straws of hope but maybe there are some in MAGAland who realize the damage that’s being done by Trump and are growing weary of his “what benefits me” style of governing? IDK..the cult is strong but the only way we get out of this is if we start seeing Congressional GOP members break away and reclaim their constitutional duties.

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kanst Mar 24, 2026 +7

> Ah yes, the author of "The Art of the Deal." His strategy has always been that he can absorb the consequences of being a scumbag better than others can so they will eventually fold. He was well known for not paying his debts and forcing people to settle for less or else he just locks them up in lawsuits indefinitely. He's now just using that strategy on the entire country

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blahblah19999 Mar 24, 2026 +5

https://carnegieendowment.org/posts/2019/04/what-happened-in-hanoi >Trump pulled Burt aside to tell him what he would have done—and what Burt should do—to start off the negotiations. Greet the Soviets warmly, he said. Let the delegation get seated and open their papers. Then stand up, put your knuckles on the table, lean over, say “F*** you,” and walk out of the room. That's what Trump knows and it's what's f****** us over on the international scene.

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gdghhfdffrf Mar 24, 2026 +2

it's always opposite, always has been. it's not the art of the deal, it's the opposite. /s.

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These_Junket_3378 Mar 24, 2026 +2

He didn’t realize he couldn’t just sue this problem away.

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IolausTelcontar Mar 24, 2026 +2

He thinks he has leverage so he is using it. Of course, he is totally wrong here as the American people hate ICE way worse than TSA and airport security lines.

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Intelligent_Sense_14 Mar 24, 2026 +2

The actual author of art of the deal was able to negotiate a 50% cut of sales or something to that degree because trump's team had no experience in publishing deals and said "Yeah, that seems right"

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aliasname Mar 24, 2026 +2

Of course not. He didn't come up with the deal how could it be the Greatest deal?/s I'm sure this is the biggest reason he refused it

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Rickbox Mar 24, 2026 +846

They could end this today. Spineless.

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Backwardspellcaster Mar 24, 2026 +267

They want this. A King. Unquestionable

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FrancoManiac Mar 24, 2026 +87

No, a *Republican* King

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Lost_Birthday_3138 Mar 24, 2026 +12

One that definitely won't wear a tan suit

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Frozty23 Mar 24, 2026 +8

Or eat arugula. I'm pretty sure it's just those two things.

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Vaux1916 Mar 24, 2026 +4

Or likes Dijon mustard, which all red-blooded Patriots know is the Devil's smegma.

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Wizzinator Mar 24, 2026 +5

He will, and it'll be okay when he does it. The hypocrisy was the point.

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Obversa Mar 24, 2026 +8

A "Republican king" *should* be an oxymoron, except that "Republicans" are no longer "republicans".

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WyoBuckeye Mar 24, 2026 +11

They always have. I was listening to an Alan Watts lecture this morning (presumably from the 1960s or so) and he made the point that the American Christian view of favoring democracy for earthly affairs is inconsistent with their view that the universe is actually a monarchy ruled absolutely by one entity (God). My take on this is that we are just now seeing this come out. They were never that big on democracy and have always desired to be ruled by an authoritarian strong man. After all, that is how they believe the universe is ruled.

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EarthRester Mar 24, 2026 +7

The more power we gave to the federal government, the more likely this was going to happen. It was a Republican that lead us into The Great Depression (Hoover), and it was a Democrat (F.D.R) that got us out with The New Deal. Though in truth FDR wasn't some idealist that wanted to usher in a new age of labor rights. He was just trying to avoid an irate and rapidly organizing labor movement that was ready to burn down the entire system. For a while the Republicans couldn't get a strong foothold into governing because of how shit they were, and the moment they did again it was with Nixion, who *would* have gone to prison if it wasn't for Fords pardon (oh look, another Republican subverting justice for the sake of Party over Country). What did The Republicans learn from this fiasco? That if they wanted to rule over this country, they needed to control the message, and a free press was never going to work in their favor. Nixon made the problem clear, and Reagan was their solution. It's been down hill ever since. **REPUBLICANS CAN'T GOVERN, AND MAGATS CAN'T EVEN FEED THEMSELVES!!!** These people do not belong in any official office, under any condition. Full stop. There cannot be a discussion with people who will not voice the same opinion for longer than it takes to get what they want. MAGAts believe that people, by circumstance of their birth, are undeserving of life, liberty, and dignity. They are by definition intolerable, and cannot be allowed to participate in society freely for the safety of the welfare of this country.

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SpaceChicken2025 Mar 24, 2026 +3

He's literally building a palace larger than the White House.

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Omophorus Mar 24, 2026 +4

Sort of. Conservatives want a hierarchy, and want to be comfortable in their place in said hierarchy (read: their needs are met and they are confident they're not at the bottom). The actual elected Representatives and Senators are also selfish, craven and want the power/perks/money that come with their positions and are more afraid of the consequences of Trump turning their voters against them than they are of the damage Trump can do to the entire world. It's selfish self-interest for all of them, and they're willing to let the world burn for their own perceived short-term benefit.

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thiosk Mar 24, 2026 +2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU94T3Sf0W8&t=68s

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JefferyTheQuaxly Mar 24, 2026 +2

its absolutely insane to be doing this literally months away from people starting to vote in the midterm elections which could very well shut down their entire administration in its tracks. like, people are going to start voting in the next 5-6 months or so and the general election is only 7-8 months away, the economy is teetering on the brink of collapse, we just started a potentially long drawn out war with iran destroying the global oil economy, while the government is shut down so millions of americans arent getting paid, gas prices are up $1 on average in the past 30 days and it could be up another $1 in the next month, this is absolutely the dumbest thing they could do at this moment. they cant gaslight people into ignoring $5-6 average gas prices. not to even mention the tariff situation they keep trying to push on people driving prices even higher again.

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HumanWithComputer Mar 24, 2026 +31

"Trump said no. No deal with the Democrats". That says it all. Not a shred of rational thought. The only thing that motivates him is an irrational and rabid hate of anything proposed and supported by the Democratic party. Until the Republicans recognise how utterly unfit to be POTUS he makes himself with this attitude and remove him they each individually will remain responsible for all the damage he inflicts on the US people and the rest of the world. They will all remain without morals, without conscience, and most absolutely without honour.

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Coyinzs Mar 24, 2026 +12

Keep in mind that they don't need Trump's approval to do any of this. They could just do it and end the shutdown and tell trump that it was for the best of the country. But they won't, because they like this.

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toriemm Mar 24, 2026 +35

And there's so much 'misinformation' out there that people are blaming the Democrats for the crashes at the airport? Who gutted the air traffic controllers??

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Latter_Case_4551 Mar 24, 2026 +7

This could have ended a decade ago.

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curiousthoughts20 Mar 24, 2026 +442

Trump only cares about himself - he doesn't care about TSA workers or passengers

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EatMyShag Mar 24, 2026 +87

Yes, but it's probably a stock market manipulation where he's gonna bet against airlines and when they are going to crash, him and his cronies will buy stock options.

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KageStar Mar 24, 2026 +8

You used "but" but your statement agrees with OP's.

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Basicly-Inevitable Mar 24, 2026 +10

But I agree as well.

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KageStar Mar 24, 2026 +4

You've boomed me, good sir.

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zoey64_ Mar 24, 2026 +17

He needs another distraction from the Trumpstein files.

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ExcellentFarm1882 Mar 24, 2026 +7

And the war which he thought was only going to take a few days.

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EricThirteen Mar 24, 2026 +3

… or America or Americans.

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Lost_Birthday_3138 Mar 24, 2026 +2

He doesn't care about MAGA themselves, but they're too stupid to realize it.

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gerrymandering_jack Mar 24, 2026 +403

"While our wonderful president was out playing golf all day, the TSA is falling apart, just like our government! Airports a total disaster!" - Trump May 21, 2016

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davolala1 Mar 24, 2026 +115

I would say someone should revive the Trump criticized Trump subreddit, but that would be a full time job at this point.

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Feeling_Inside_1020 Mar 24, 2026 +44

Game to play with Trump supporters: give em a quote by Trump but change it to - Obama and watch em blow up. Then be like wait Trump said that lemme look it up and find it.

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neckbishop Mar 24, 2026 +51

It will just be a repeat of the Joe Rogan Airport clip. Joe Rogan bashes Biden for saying something about airports during the revolutionary war. His lacky looks it up and says, Actually that was Trump that said that. Joe Rogan chuckles and moves on. [Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt28PhpwtDY)

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remarkablewhitebored Mar 24, 2026 +7

yeah, that sub stopped being funny when he got re-elected. Then it dawned on the rest of the World that they wanted this madness...

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Kevin-W Mar 24, 2026 +2

Trump criticizes Trump.

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Stitching Mar 24, 2026 +401

He’s such a coward. He’s so scared he’s going to be held accountable by a Democratic congress in November that he’ll do literally anything to prevent a fair midterm election.

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Pol_Potamus Mar 24, 2026 +126

A paranoid coward. He has absolutely no rational reason to believe a Democratic congress would hold him accountable.

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[deleted] Mar 24, 2026 +51

100% correct - as they never have before. Wait! Schumer & Jeffries will send him a strongly worded letter... did you take that into consideration?!? (/s, to be sure)

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Thin_Dream2079 Mar 24, 2026 +2

Its worked before.

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Agent-Adept Mar 24, 2026 +135

I thought the Democrats offered to approve DHS funding to ONLY get TSA, FEMA, Secret Service and Cyber Security funded without funding ICE and CBP. Now they know the Republicans want to screw them over with reconciliation to fund ICE and CBP with only Republican support.

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mlippay Mar 24, 2026 +69

ICE is already funded, they’re asking for even more funding. Shouldn’t Coast Guard be in the funded group too?

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Aron_Wolff Mar 24, 2026 +9

Yes, Coast Guard would have been funded in the bill, too.

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Timely-Bluejay-4167 Mar 24, 2026 +35

This has been the case the whole time. Democrats have put forth multiple votes to fund TSA and other DHS entities not named ICE as a stand alone. They have made clear the asks for ICE annual funding as well (no masks, body c***, de escalation training, etc) Only this week did Republicans meet Democrats in the middle, and then Trump killed it.

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ohanse Mar 24, 2026 +25

Oh dang secret service about to go on strike?

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WakingWaldo Mar 24, 2026 +27

Oh no, please. Don't go..

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Buy-theticket Mar 24, 2026 +7

They've known that all along.. it wasn't a secret. So many people feel the need to count on something they know nothing about. It's f****** crazy.

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ReggieCorneus Mar 24, 2026 +3

You think they didn't know that? They are doing what they can, at least there is no budget for ICE with their signatures on it. That is what this was all about, very simple procedural washing of hands, and i don't blame democrats for doing that: it was the best option by far. If you can't do anything about it, you at least wash your hands from it. It is symbolic but those things do matter.

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Ganrokh Mar 24, 2026 +2

They probably already knew that.

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Traditional-Oil-6891 Mar 24, 2026 +110

lol I legitimately thought the deal to reopen the government via reconcilation was too good of a deal to pass up for Trump. Nope, he's all in on his stupid "SAVE AMERICA" Act.

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jjwax Mar 24, 2026 +94

He knows he’s toast if we have a remotely fair election this year

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gizzardgullet Mar 24, 2026 +43

Not sure how he does not realize that capital investment will flee the US as soon as its clear the US is no longer a democracy, making him look like an idiot. Sure there will be many corporations close to Trump that will stay but, in general, companies want to be based in a country that has laws that they can plan around. "Whatever I say, goes" will not cut it. US economy will bleed until it looks like Russia's economy.

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Disused_Yeti Mar 24, 2026 +24

the only capital he cares about is what is flowing into his own pocket *US economy will bleed until it looks like Russia's economy.* that's a positive, not a negative to him if he's like putin at the top

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TheLightningL0rd Mar 24, 2026 +10

> until it looks like Russia's economy. I think that's what he and his friends are banking on

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Mormuth Mar 24, 2026 +11

I think you're ... factually wrong. Capital joined Germany after it fell under nazi regime, not the opposite. Capital, during crisis, has always favored fascism.

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ChoiceContribution91 Mar 24, 2026 +5

Yeah but Germany was under an incredible depression and making high debt payments due to the treaty from the end of WWI. USA was recovering from Covid better than most countries and had just had one of the best runs of growth since 2010. I think the context of each rise of power is important here.

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HauntedCemetery Mar 24, 2026 +4

I think he'll be a long ways from toast. He'll still have many billions of scam and bribe cash, and face no legal consequences. He's just a whiney toddler and he wants everything because he wants it and he wants it right now.

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philljarvis166 Mar 24, 2026 +18

Presumably because it’s a key part of his attempts to rig the next elections?

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MountainMan2_ Mar 24, 2026 +10

I'm just glad we're still holding our ground. Seems like Schumer finally found something to stick his neck out for. Good thing too, if he passed the SAVE act he'd lose his entire caucus. The only places stacked enough to vote dem despite that bill would swing so heavy progressive, Schumer would be getting the kind of looks a Chihuahua gets from a coked up alligator

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PathosEatsLogos Mar 24, 2026 +94

Yes and will not matter. He also killed the strongest bill on boarder protection so he could run on it and the voters rewarded him for it.

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Sestos Mar 24, 2026 +27

This which every one of his supporters overlooks, yet he still has not done anything legally to fix boarder protection or immigration. I guess it's similar to no new wars....while he seems attack a new county every QTR like it's a new ratings season.

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----_____---- Mar 24, 2026 +13

Just like he killed the Iran nuclear agreement just because it happened under Obama

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philodendrin Mar 24, 2026 +10

He threw away the Pandemic Response Manual because it was written during Obamas Administration and winged it. This undoubtedly caused tens, if not hundreds of thousands of deaths after Covid-19 hit.

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cobaltjacket Mar 24, 2026 +11

He was also upset at the Fed for dropping interest rates prior to the election because he wanted that "win."

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ItsTimetoLANK Mar 24, 2026 +41

He purposely fucks something up and then holds the country ransom until he gets what he wants. He's the most anti-American president of all time. He's a complete scumbag.

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cobaltjacket Mar 24, 2026 +6

He would 100% do a Nero Decree.

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Bishopjones2112 Mar 24, 2026 +21

Because Trump didn’t give a shit about any American except the rich buddies. He wants to pass an act that suppress voting and keep power with republicans while they continue to destroy the country. I used to hold hope that the United States would use the checks and balances provided by the constitution and logic or common sense to fix this mess. I have no hope for the United States at this point, with the fraud and corruption running rampant and tearing apart of organizations like FEMA and CDC all the way to the destruction of constitutional right. I’m waiting for the collapse of the United States, which by the way if you haven’t paid attention to the bond market and national debt you might want want to watch that, going to end up like the USSR soon.

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EstablishmentSad Mar 24, 2026 +18

If his party won't leave him for committing felonies, f****** kids, starting a new war to distract people from the fact that he was f****** kids...then they have given him the green light to lie about just about anything. I don't think there is anything he could do that would make people switch from Republican to Democrat.

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bandalooper Mar 24, 2026 +14

Nothing is more Republican than f****** everything up and then blaming Democrats.

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spicymushrooom_ Mar 24, 2026 +13

Bro said this in the oval office not too long ago. "Ill shut down the government as many times as it takes." This is how he "negotiates". Dems should take away his golf. Bet you he negotiates then.

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UbiSububi8 Mar 24, 2026 +13

“No deals with Democrats” Bipartisan compromise has been essential since the drafting of the constitution. Bipartisan compromise is in the DNA of the USA. Trump rejects bipartisan compromise. Transitive property: Trump hates America and Americans.

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pappy413 Mar 24, 2026 +10

Becoming a U S senator to kneel at the throne of Trump.

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holyoak Mar 24, 2026 +11

Remember when he killed the Border Security bill? He wasn't even President. Had to make sure the problem wasn't fixed, tho, so he could "use it as a campaign issue". Yes, that is a direct quote. And then he used it to create a personal military. This is just as bad, if not worse. This time he is removing democracy itself.

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kdeweb24 Mar 24, 2026 +17

Every negotiation to this f****** wet fart of a human is a zero sum scenario. He refuses to compromise. And the democrats have absolutely no spine, so he’s generally gotten his way. If this is all going to end, it won’t be because he came to the table. It will be because Schumer and Jeffries piss down their leg and hand everything over to him like they have every time before

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robcwag Mar 24, 2026 +8

When will the GOP finally admit and act upon the fact that their "emperor has no clothes?"

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Brndrll Mar 24, 2026 +5

They will never admit he's anything less than the second coming of Jesus.

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Rob_Zander Mar 24, 2026 +8

He's desperate to get the SAVE Act passed because it's the only chance he has to keep a GOP Congress during the midterms. He spent 2 years as a lame duck president and 4 years being investigated. Even though he got kid gloves the whole time it's the closest he ever got to consequences in his life and he's terrified of it happening again.

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AdHopeful3801 Mar 24, 2026 +23

One wonders what, exactly, he thinks he is going to "win" that way. The (partial) shutdown over DHS / ICE reforms is just about the only visible symbol of Democratic resistance to his regime, and it's more symbolic than real, since the biggest problem agency is funded for the foreseeable future thanks to the massive, no-strings budget it got last year. And Dems are offering to give up most of it here.

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aywwts4 Mar 24, 2026 +3

Getting ICE in more places and roles like airports. Once the tick is embedded it’s not going to leave.

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No-Relation5965 Mar 24, 2026 +7

The plan is to make flying much more difficult and stressful and then privatize all services and TSA. Then the GOP can put Trump’s ICE “agents” (which he used as his personal militia) all over the airports. Good luck flying in or out of the U.S.

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the_cnidarian Mar 24, 2026 +6

Airport security was private until 9/11. It worked great, until that one time.

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whydontyousuckmyball Mar 24, 2026 +9

TSA fails most of its tests. They are just about useless. I wonder how much tax dollars have gone to them in 25 years.

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Yukonhijack Mar 24, 2026 +3

It's all just security theater at the airports. I've gone through with pocket knives and larger containers of liquids than are allowed.

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CLT-vagabond Mar 24, 2026 +6

This 🍊 💩 is an abomination for the future of our country. It’s damn hard being an American with so many idiots following this guy.

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dxk3355 Mar 24, 2026 +17

So did this plan “That was to take Democrats’ offer to reopen the rest of the DHS, then pass ICE funding separately through reconciliation” include the democrats cause they would be either lying about funding if they knew this was the plan or they are stupid to leave that as an option. In either case Trump is dumb.

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Tough_Violinist_9594 Mar 24, 2026 +6

They are now trying to throw Trump under the bus but Trump doesn’t care he must win at all costs

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DreadPirate777 Mar 24, 2026 +5

Release all the files

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arriesgado Mar 24, 2026 +5

My understanding is if he refuses to sign it still becomes law after a certain amount of time. If he vetoes it goes back to senate. Pass the deal. Let it become law unsigned or force him to publicly talk in circles about why he is screwing tsa agents.

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earthwormjimwow Mar 24, 2026 +2

> My understanding is if he refuses to sign it still becomes law after a certain amount of time. 10 days, excluding Sundays, as long as Congress remains in session during those 10 days. > If he vetoes it goes back to senate. It goes back to both houses where it requires a 2/3 vote in each to overrule the veto.

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unclefire Mar 24, 2026 +4

Do these dumb fucks not understand they can do a deal, pass the bill, and if Trump vetoes they can override his veto?

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ShadowWingLG Mar 24, 2026 +3

The Senate can override the Veto, but not the House, the margins are too thin and Johnson is riding the Trump Train

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Bellick Mar 24, 2026 +6

Can somebody get dickless mcgee to stop ruining everything he touches?

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ryanlaghost Mar 24, 2026 +5

Let’s be honest here. Holding the shutdown ransom while simultaneously stealing the money.

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Apprehensive-Care20z Mar 24, 2026 +5

He needs the shutdown, to cause civil unrest, to invoke the insurrection act, to send ICE to voting centers, and to shut down voting centers in democratic areas, to ensure that only MAGA can vote.

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CuttlefishExpress Mar 24, 2026 +5

So the democrats are willing to open up spending on everything except ICE. The GOP was willing to accept this and then were going to open a bill for reconciliation (doesnt need democrat votes) in order to pay DHS/ICE. They sent this to Trump to sign off on it, and he said "no" just because the democrats where OK with it. Definitely a President for the people.

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Dock_Ellis45 Mar 24, 2026 +6

trump said "no" because he wants the SAVE act passed first. That bill doesn't even have the support of his own party.

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Fuzzy_Translator4639 Mar 24, 2026 +5

The Fascists have complete control. They do not want to resolve this. They do not need to resolve this.

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Gaucho_Gringo Mar 24, 2026 +5

Here’s what everyone seems to miss. They want to destroy our government and replace it with a “Christian” autocracy. They more government shutdowns happen, the more they can justify ending departments and programs. Now should the Dems bargain away our voting rights? Hell, no. Can we trust certain senators not to give away our votes? Probably not.

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NumberSelect8186 Mar 24, 2026 +5

My way or it has to look like I made it happen so I can boast, bluster and blame the other side for it not getting done until I swooped and saved it! Disgustingly predictable. Sounds like what he did to that bipartisan border bill he demanded his stooges kill on the floor of Congress so he could use the issue as campaign fodder.

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DrunkAndHornyGuy Mar 24, 2026 +4

It doesn't matter if Trump killed the deal when all he has to do is step in front of reporters and say "the rotten democrats killed the deal" and then every news outlet reports that sentence as being a true and real thing that happened because Trump said it.

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Capable-Broccoli2179 Mar 24, 2026 +4

You know this is coming: "Long lines at TSA?" "Just fly on private jets and skip the lines: lines are for suckers"

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Toolazy2work Mar 24, 2026 +3

No, correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought congress is NOT supposed to take orders from the president, that they are intended to be two separate entities, and even if there was a veto, they could overrule that veto.

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Xeones42 Mar 24, 2026 +2

Separation of powers

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fighterpilottim Mar 24, 2026 +5

Post the text on paywalled articles, a******

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DootyMcCool2000 Mar 24, 2026 +5

Blame Trump all you want, the congressional GOP is indeed capable of making a deal without the president getting involved. They're just a bunch of sycophants and yesmen.

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l0st1nP4r4d1ce Mar 24, 2026 +3

Idiots who think Trump is a 'master negotiator' have never negotiated a deal where leverage isn't a motive.

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MJ_Brutus Mar 24, 2026 +3

Pass it anyway and make him veto it.

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Panda_hat Mar 24, 2026 +3

Dems need to take a stand and stop giving in to this belligerent moron. If they don't every single Republican president going forward will employ the same tactics.

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PuzzledDeal6235 Mar 24, 2026 +3

So pass the bill and let Sleepy Don veto it.

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Background_Bar4755 Mar 24, 2026 +3

You see, he doesn’t give a shit about you or me and will let the whole country burn in order to get his way. He thinks democrats will cave on the save act and if history tells us anything, they will.

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brickout Mar 24, 2026 +3

Trump didn't kill it, these assholes/cowards could send a veto-proof bill to his desk TODAY.

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Curious-Emu3894 Mar 24, 2026 +3

Again… it’s all TRUMP’S fault. Refuting Americans are struggling with, and have been since he made y’all his lil B****…. Is Trump’s fault!!!!

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PennStateInMD Mar 24, 2026 +3

I'm surprised FOX doesn't have a delay so they can faint sound issues or a video breakup when the truth emerges.

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ReggieCorneus Mar 24, 2026 +3

"Dear Leader, we managed to make a deal where we get everything we wanted" "No, will not negotiate until we get what we want". God damn he is stupid.

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Luciliusardens Mar 24, 2026 +3

Just as he killed Senator Lankford's bipartisan immigration bill during Biden's term so he could gin up the issue for the election. But much of Trump's genius is his ability to exploit the civic illiteracy of the electorate. And there's...not much to do about it 🤷

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twohunned_Grand2782 Mar 24, 2026 +3

Trumps plan with every business is: gut it from the inside out. Make sure all revenue goes directly to me. Leave. He’s done with America twice now.

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LazerWolfe53 Mar 25, 2026 +3

I hated Trump's first term at much and the next guy, but he's clearly fallen a lot farther of his rocker since 2020.

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txtoolfan Mar 24, 2026 +2

He has the negotiation skills of a toddler.

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Cwolf10 Mar 24, 2026 +2

It's not the first time he's killed a bipartisan deal and it won't be the last. There's always been disagreements between the left and the right but Trump weaponized that and expanded that rift. So he refuses to make a deal with the "evil left" unless they agree with everything he says and does.

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RiverMarketEagle Mar 24, 2026 +2

It's the Trump Shutdown and it's time to start calling it that. He likes to be in control of everything and claim credit for everything. He's responsible, so give him the credit he actually deserves for once.

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Lonely_Refuse4988 Mar 24, 2026 +2

The people want Donnie’s admin to stop killing people and reign in ICE. Donnie - nah, can’t do that!! 😂🤷‍♂️

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vroart Mar 24, 2026 +2

So basically everything he did wrong on COVID19 but now just on everything else.

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[deleted] Mar 24, 2026 +2

Ok, it's funny - if you ask any AI system whether Trump's behavior & choices as POTUS more closely match that of a President or a Saboteur for purposes of benefitting America's population, relationships with allies, & strengthening defenses against potential enemies... ...guess which one all the AI pick?

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cutewitched Mar 24, 2026 +2

Looooool I live in Ecuador (basically backyard of Trump with Argentina) our president told us about “plan fénix” a killer deal for criminals and cartels here. They all have the same script and I think underline the key words that have to say it laugh.

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dajagoex Mar 24, 2026 +2

The chaos is the strategy. Give the narcissist everything he wants and needs to live out his fantasies as he sunsets, burn everything to the ground, the billionaires then swoop in to “clean up” and take ownership of everything and everyone in a techno slave state model. A handful of people are simply playing The Sims with us. I’m sure it will be fine. /s

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EmergencyJacket207 Mar 24, 2026 +2

Watch the caged animal panic! Consequences are coming for you Donny!

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Juunlar Mar 24, 2026 +2

Trump isn't at fault. It's the backwater idiots who voted him in. And the pure, unadulterated hate I have for every one of them will exist for eternity.

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Trick_Quiet3484 Mar 24, 2026 +2

“The President said ‘no deal’”

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JaerBear62611 Mar 24, 2026 +2

I think it was a huge mistake to draw up a two step plan to present to him. At a minimum, that’s at least one too many steps beyond his level of comprehension. When will these Republican Senators stop undermining all the Greatness, jeesh? s/

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yeswenarcan Mar 24, 2026 +2

Trump has no power to kill anything in Congress except what Republican congresspeople give him. They are an independent body and can pass whatever they want. But they are unwilling to put him in the position of having to veto it. And the reality is if they passed a funding bill as described in the article, it would pass overwhelmingly with Democrat support and most likely Trump would TACO.

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craniumcanyon Mar 24, 2026 +2

John Kennedy use to be a Democrat but he learned that a southern lawyer shtick and having an R by your name was more profitable.

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Titan3692 Mar 24, 2026 +2

I cant stand seeing his face at this point. 2029 can’t come soon enough. I don’t even care if it’s another GOP anymore, as long as I don’t have to hear about this horrible human being.

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cbelt3 Mar 24, 2026 +2

If oligarchs and politicians had to go through long TSA lines, this would have been over long ago.

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gtpc2020 Mar 24, 2026 +2

The president doesn't control congress. The cowards in the GOP do. Man up, pass the bill, and put the orange maniac in check. Pass the bill that's been presented 5 times. Override his veto of you think funding the government, with the small exception of the sudden and radical increase in ICE funding, and do something good.

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