Once it is obvious, what will they do? America needs guidance Hungary. Make it hurt.
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Grimnebulin68Apr 12, 2026
+17
Orban has conceded this evening.
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Maximum_Curve_1471Apr 12, 2026
+14
You know Orban lost, right?
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pitshandsApr 12, 2026
+25
There is the issue of "what a difference a day makes" look when it was posted.
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Capitain_CollateralApr 13, 2026
+15
Due to the linear nature of time, they in fact probably didn’t know that.
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TarnmasterApr 13, 2026
+10
when I posted that comment, no
10
Weak_Let_6971Apr 12, 2026
+93
New opposition party leader said its impossible to cheat on the hungarian elections so its a fake narrative to weaken our democracy.
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gualdharApr 12, 2026
+26
Ignoramus here, what about Hungarian elections makes it impossible to cheat?
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Weak_Let_6971Apr 12, 2026
+43
People from all parties are present at the voting, counting votes there immediately. There are separate parallel vote counting that parties do to see if it all adds up… etc.
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gualdharApr 12, 2026
+11
ok, so similar to how paper ballots are counted in the US. Are there any electronic voting machines with no paper record?
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DirkDayZSAApr 12, 2026
+25
There are no electronic voting machines period. Ballots are cast using pen and paper and the counting is done by hand.
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Sudden-Significance7Apr 13, 2026
+3
Well I’m from Zimbabwe. Same voting system but still able to rig the elections. The ruling party only failed once during the 2008 global recession because even their supporters voted for opposition party and they had to void the election and do a rerun. It’s only hard to rig the population overwhelmingly votes for one side. They have many tricks and there consultants across the world the deal with playbooks on rigging elections
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ftjlsterApr 13, 2026
+3
Australia's solution to that is to make voting mandatory. It makes it commercially unviable to buy votes and very hard for it to not be incredibly obvious if you're faking votes.
Plus all political parties have no incentive to campaign on stopping people from voting.
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GardenOfSilverApr 13, 2026
+1
Which I think is a great idea.
Often I find myself thinking that just how we as citizens have Rights in our countries, we really should have Duties -- as citizens. And in a democracy voting is absolutely on that list.
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ftjlsterApr 13, 2026
+1
The way far right conservative parties have been steadily attacking and succeeding with getting footholds in western democracies by winning power through low voter turn out, it might be that mandatory voting will be something more countries have to do to protect their democracy.
That's what Australia have seen - the country doesn't swing to niche extremists views because everybody has to vote. So the country self moderates to the center. That center of course can move to the left or right, but the general swing is blunted and less extreme. Not great if you really want to move the entire country towards say, alternative energy generation - but a protective bulwark against say, the entire country suddenly having a government composed of fascists.
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Mercurial891Apr 12, 2026
+2
God, I envy them.
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XionicativeCheranApr 12, 2026
+1
But, if you convince people who oppose the government that it's rigged so they may as well not try, that could be effective!
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burnabycoyoteApr 12, 2026
+2
> they're not wrong to think that
They can't be held responsible for thoughts that get stuck in their head, but hopefully they will see today that this was due to a cognitive bias.
2
TheShipElizaApr 13, 2026
+2
Turns out they were! Same goes for the doomers in the States.
2
femme_mystiqueApr 12, 2026
+2
Are the voting machine connected to STARLINK remotely over cellular to GPS like the compromised US ones were?
2
MoglingApr 13, 2026
+2
Why do you like spreading election misinformation?
2
JennFappApr 13, 2026
+2
Wasn’t there a huge case that Fox News lost against the voting machines company because they kept knowingly lying that they are rigged?
2
UrdarApr 12, 2026
+1
Hungary doesnt habe electronic voting. Only a small number of european country does, and even less on national elections.
Its just conceptualyl to vulnerable.
1
vanhunt1Apr 12, 2026
+1801
Orban is losing. Next is Vucic. Then hopefully Putin dies and Trump is impeached and imprisoned for life.
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masixxApr 12, 2026
+717
That's what the majority of this planet we're sharing is hoping for. Hungary would be a great starting point.
717
Electric4ceApr 12, 2026
+213
Yeah, I'm Hungary for some change.
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BeatNo4548Apr 12, 2026
+47
Ideally, it starts with Hungary, then Turkey, then Greece. After that, we order desert.
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Ok-Wolverine-3238Apr 12, 2026
+6
You need to Greece Turkey if you are Hungary
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pidzsonApr 12, 2026
+34
First and foremost, akkor a kurva anyádat.
Second, we all are. Hundreds of thousands have hit the streets in support of the opposition these last few weeks. I’m so f****** high on hopium.
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BrokenPickle7Apr 12, 2026
+20
8 billion people just hoping for a handful of men to kick the bucket lmao, people should just rise up.
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masixxApr 12, 2026
+8
They should. But you know very well group dynamics are complicated. The truth is it's easy to distract and divide the masses.
8
quantumfall9Apr 12, 2026
+56
Trump will die of old age before he faces any punishment, he’s already almost 80.
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BeatNo4548Apr 12, 2026
+22
Trump has the Ick, too. He's being propped up with toothpicks and duct tape. I wouldn't be surprised if they're injecting him with more dope than Hitler.
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stevegApr 13, 2026
+2
I wish you were right, but watching the video of him at the UFC event on Saturday, he looks impressively spry.
2
BeatNo4548Apr 13, 2026
+1
They probably dosed him with methylphenidate. It lasts 5 hours and keeps him from falling asleep. But I have no idea. He seems half dead but there are moments of clarity.
1
psychicswordApr 12, 2026
+2
People live to 100 and they don't always deserve to. Sure it is very rare but that also means we can't count on it.
2
AtletMedSkaeggApr 12, 2026
+153
Old age is our hope for both Putin and Trump. They will never face any real justice.
153
Altruistic_Bass539Apr 12, 2026
+84
Just this once will I root for cholesterol to do its f****** job.
84
DaveyJonesXMRApr 12, 2026
+39
And hope the christians were right about a hell too
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fadvexApr 12, 2026
+18
The modern concept of Hell doesn't come from the Bible.
It comes from Dante's Inferno.
18
Jaydenn7Apr 12, 2026
+23
The PS3 game?
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czs5056Apr 12, 2026
+5
The first third of a mideval poem called the Divine Comedy.
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ChoicePositive1771Apr 12, 2026
+7
So yes, the PS3 game.
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HalfXTheHalfXApr 12, 2026
+1
They had PS3 in the mediveal ages??? Damn.. I thought it's a bit younger than that..
1
uh_oh-hotdogApr 12, 2026
+3
Medieval
3
sanfran_girlApr 12, 2026
+6
Quite true. But a frightening number of people have based their world view on it being "god's word" and will happily beat you with their unread bible to prove it.
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DaveyJonesXMRApr 12, 2026
+2
The movie?
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Difficult-Square-689Apr 12, 2026
+11
When someone very old suffers a stroke, they could end up paralyzed and unable to really communicate.
A horrible fate for almost everybody.
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waiting4singularityApr 12, 2026
+2
dont get them hooked on nox. it damages the spinal cord right above the shoulder vertebra by blocking vitamin b12 metabolism and causing severe atrophy.
2
SwagtagonistApr 12, 2026
-6
He could’ve faced justice if Joe Biden wasn’t so f****** useless.
-6
True_InxisApr 12, 2026
+13
My original comment was:
>Biden was part of the executive branch, not of the judiciary. Any organ interfering in others' business would be overstepping its boundaries (which in the US nowadays seems like a normal thing to do).
Albeit the complete separation of the three powers is a philosophy followed by many countries, it seems that in the US the judiciary powers fall under the authority of the executive branch. This effectively mean the Executive can pull its weight on the matter, if it decides to do so.
I personally wouldn't rely on such a system to have outcomes impartial on politically charged topics.
I should thank u/5zepp for pointing out this peculiarity to me, along with the fact that that a system built in this way can (and often will) be exploited by the Executive.
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waiting4singularityApr 12, 2026
+7
im rather sure the former-former president left employees in the system who were tasked to delay and hinder any action to bring him and his ilk to justice.
i really dont believe they couldnt get a case together in the 4 years of biden. surely without obstruction he'd be wearing a set of overals matching his jaundiced skintone.
7
asdddeApr 12, 2026
+37
This is why, those dictators Xi and Putin discussed immortality. They really are confident that is the only problem in their way.
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Salmonman4Apr 12, 2026
+25
Lukashenko has to go too
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QegolaApr 12, 2026
+19
He should, but without someone holding his little fluffy leash he's nothing.
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untamedlazyeyeApr 12, 2026
+7
Putin and him would really be a two birds, one stone kinda deal yeah
7
lollipop999Apr 12, 2026
+63
Add Erdogan, Modi, and Netanyahu to the list
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SaddamMustaineApr 12, 2026
+1
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GoodRip420Apr 12, 2026
+63
Don't forget Netanyahu. This is essential.
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V8OApr 12, 2026
+16
"Hopefully everything will work itself out" is the sentiment which made all those idiots viable in the first place.
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Thomas_Becket2Apr 12, 2026
+7
Fico needs to go too
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Ordinary-Violinist-9Apr 12, 2026
+7
And pete hegseth hanged for war crimes together with netanyahu.
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deviant324Apr 12, 2026
+5
Trump doesn’t have enough time left to even go to trial for most of his crimes
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FrugalKrugmanApr 12, 2026
+3
Also get rid of Bibi please
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HungryManSpiderApr 12, 2026
+6
The hate of men will pass, and dictators die, and the power they took from the people will return to the people. And so long as men die, liberty will never perish
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thatawkwardmexicanApr 12, 2026
+1
I have another idea of what we should do to the current administration. IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES…
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ThoraxekicksazzApr 12, 2026
+1
We are in the middle of trumps second coup attempt. This entire war is so he can seize power before the midterms.
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Franc000Apr 12, 2026
+1
Don't you know in which timeline we are?
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sachiel1462Apr 12, 2026
+1
Can we do something for Netanyahu too, please ?
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Inner-Conclusion2977Apr 12, 2026
+1
And bibi finally goes on trial
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Amonfire1776Apr 12, 2026
+1
Erdogan? Bibi? A lot of leaders need to step down.
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Sekh765Apr 12, 2026
+1
Bolsanaro needs some company in prison.
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SaschaAusUlmApr 12, 2026
+1
Beautiful beautiful dream...
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Maximum_Curve_1471Apr 12, 2026
+1
Does that mean the election was legit then?
1
sexysausageApr 12, 2026
+1
Let’s manifest it by all crossing fingers
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matti1311Apr 12, 2026
+1
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asdf152Apr 12, 2026
+1
This sounds too good.
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Historical-Fig-5449Apr 12, 2026
+1
You're forgetting someone here
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CorodixApr 12, 2026
+1
That all sounds really good, which is probably why half of it won't end up happening.
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uuggehorApr 12, 2026
+456
Remember to vote. Inaction is the main thing empowering oppressors.
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EudaimonicsApr 12, 2026
+58
Seriously, don’t let this become a self fulfilling prophecy.
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HolKattApr 12, 2026
+4
I thought it would have been the oppression.
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VixensPoppiesApr 12, 2026
+191
If Orban wins again (after the bad polling he are getting now..) it probably is & rigged by Russia ..
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Difficult-Square-689Apr 12, 2026
+71
He will. Vance was there to pick up some tips on how to do the same in the US.
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Maximum_Curve_1471Apr 12, 2026
+13
This aged well
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sadandshyApr 12, 2026
+7
Luckily, Vance is wildly incompetent.
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magicmulderApr 12, 2026
+12
I'm still not over how (almost) all the polls had Hillary leading by +5 or more, and afterwards everyone just went "welp, must've been all the polls that were wrong".
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FrexxiaApr 12, 2026
+26
That's simply not true. There was a massive shift in the time leading up to the election.
If I recall correctly 538 had Trump at ~~36%~~ 29% to win on election night based on that polling.
You also have to keep in mind that the electoral college decides the election, not the national popular vote.
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CirnoWhiterockApr 12, 2026
+2
I would add to this while some polls did have Hillary up 5, it was not the, say, 50-45 we saw with Obama, it was like, 44-39 with a ton of undecided who I suspect just didn't want to admit to polite society that they were voting Trump
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aaaaaaaarrrrrghApr 12, 2026
+15
From a non-American observer: That was at a time where "wokeness" was a huge thing and conservatives would face rather vocal criticism when they showed their opinion publicly. So I'm not surprised that many just shut up and voted rather than announcing their political position, even when polled.
I've seen the same happen in several European elections or referenda, where the "will be loudly criticized for being the morally wrong choice" options polled worse than they performed. In at least some of these I consider foreign interference unlikely.
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magicmulderApr 12, 2026
+1
That makes no sense at all. Polls are anonymous.
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aaaaaaaarrrrrghApr 12, 2026
+3
Sure, but once you've trained people that talking about their political position = hostility (up to the point of risking to lose their job), *some* of them won't think about it, and will either hang up when polled, or lie. ~10% doing that is enough to explain the observed effect.
Most "left"/"liberal" (in the US sense, i.e. non-conservative) opinions were generally considered well within the Overton window (acceptable/"safe" to voice), while even relatively moderate "conservative" opinions (e.g. that there is no need to ban technical terms just because the same words were used in the context of racism, or that the actual effects of some "affirmative action" policies resulted in overt and wrong discrimination of majority groups) were shunning-worthy.
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PastaPuttanesca42Apr 12, 2026
+1
> even relatively moderate "conservative" opinions
By definition a moderate opinion is in the Overton window.
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Obvious-You-3602Apr 12, 2026
+5
She won the popular vote by 3 million votes. She failed to win in the rust belt which she heavily neglected to campaign in whilst trump campaigned heavily in those same states. She likely could’ve won if she only shored up the rust belt instead of going to arizona and texas.
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Agitated_Ad7576Apr 12, 2026
+1
There were reports that the people who ran Obama's campaigns were shocked at how poorly run Hillary's was.
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EgoTripWireApr 12, 2026
+1
Then the population needs to be ready to Gaddafi him
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mesmeroooApr 12, 2026
+97
> Following the 2010 Hungarian parliamentary elections, in which the Fidesz party secured a two-thirds supermajority, the government implemented fundamental reforms to the electoral system, officially codified through Act CCIII of 2011. These reforms significantly altered the electoral framework from the system established after the Cold War, aiming to create a more efficient, w*****-take-all structure that critics argue unfairly favored the governing party.
Key changes enacted post-2010 include:
> Reduction in Parliament Size: The number of parliamentary seats was drastically reduced from 386 (established in 1990) to 199, aiming for a more "reasonable" size.
> Shift in Electoral Weight: The proportion of seats elected in single-member constituencies increased from 46% to 53% (106 seats), increasing the w*****-take-all element.
> Gerrymandering and Redrawing Boundaries: Constituency boundaries were overhauled. Analysts, such as Kim Lane Scheppele, noted that boundaries were redrawn to pack opposition voters into fewer districts and divide Fidesz-leaning areas to maximize their seats.
> Abolition of Two-Round System: The traditional two-round system (a run-off between the top two candidates) was abolished and replaced with a single-round, first-past-the-post system in constituencies. This allowed candidates to win with less than 50% of the vote.
> "W***** Compensation" (Fractional Votes): The reform introduced a unique "w***** compensation" mechanism, where surplus votes from winning candidates (votes beyond what was needed to win) were added to the party's national list total, strengthening the party with the most votes.
> Extension of Voting Rights: In 2012, voting rights were extended to ethnic Hungarians living abroad (primarily in neighboring countries) who do not have a residence in Hungary, allowing them to vote for party lists.
> These reforms were implemented to consolidate the electoral power of the ruling Fidesz party, facilitating their continued two-thirds majorities in subsequent elections.
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pieman7414Apr 12, 2026
+18
lmao their election rigging was just doing everything the US does 😭
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Front-Anteater3776Apr 12, 2026
+335
Putin and Trump are going to make sure Orban stays in power. And when they are done there, they are coming ofr the next countries in EU.
Russia snd USA pose an existential threat to Europe. Our politicians have to take it more seriously and start treating USA as the enemies are they are.
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BestFriendWatermelonApr 12, 2026
+82
Looks like Trump and Putin have been outplayed this time.
The leaks of Orban's government colluding with Putin have all the hallmarks of a major western intelligence agency, probably the UK's MI6 or France's DGSE, and the leaks have been devastating to Orban.
While Trump sent Vance slithering over to Hungary in the vain hope that his creepy demeanour might actually win Orban some votes, and Putin filled the political space with AI slop about Zelensky and a few harebrained sabotage plots that were immediately leaked too, liberal western countries have taken their intelligence agency's gloves off.
Normally intercepting calls of treasonous authoritarians selling out their own country was met with a wry smile. Now countries like the UK and France have had enough. The endless corruption and lies are the authoritarian's greatest weakness; but until now liberal democracies avoided skewering other countries with it out of fear of being seen to interfere in their internal politics. Well it looks like now we're gonna be interfering.
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vba7Apr 12, 2026
+23
In Poland right wing PIS+Suwpol parties have been using Pegasus spyware software to spy on the opposition KO party... and they still have 30% of votes.
Not to mention elections, where people did some basic stats on the results and some of the areas had really strange results (e.g. 20% share -> 60% share). After a recount ALL of the votes there were falsified. In 8 commissions out of 8 checked. Guess what? The election was still confirmed as legit.
Not to even mention what happens in those small rural places, where it's quite clear that the members were adding votes to their favorite party / favorite candidate.
You’re not wrong, but we can still hope to win this one. We shouldn’t give up exactly at this moment, but just push on. If we believe we can do it, it’s possible. I believe in the young Hungarians 🙏
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The-Board-ChairmanApr 12, 2026
+9
>Putin and Trump are going to make sure Orban stays in power.
They are going to *try*. That is very different from actually achieving their goals.
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QuazzApr 12, 2026
+8
The harder they try, the more they will fail.
There's something about outside forces being hostile towards you that unites people.
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GermfreecandyApr 12, 2026
+50
If there is one thing EU is good at, it's being bureaucratic and slow. I wouldn't hold my breath for them to do anything
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ThisTheRealLifeApr 12, 2026
+108
While it is bad in this case, if the last few years have shown us one thing it is that bureaucratic and slow also means to some degree: stable and safe.
Harder to completely turn round and go haywire. When looking at the US right now, I start to really appreciate stable and safe!
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cxmmxcApr 12, 2026
+19
It's nice for people to notice a few decades after the fact, because it's by design.
Acting fast and loose ended up in Europe bombing the shit out of itself, twice, so something had to be done. Being glacially slow has its issues, but it was seen as better than the alternative.
Some reconfiguring needs to be done though, since it seems that the West/EU exhibited hubris that by introducing a better and more unified economy, nations would willingly join to be a part of that.
What they didn't expect was that Russia would abuse that and find a way to degrade that union from the inside. There was no mechanisms set up to take action against a member who actively worked to destroy the union against everyone's best interests, except Russia's.
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GermfreecandyApr 12, 2026
+6
I hear you and it might even be true in a 'bullish economy'. But I do appreciate effectiveness sometimes. I would for example love for the EU-rearmament program to be properly sped up and correctly financed instead of having Germany for example burning billions of their defence budget on administrative work.
If EU ends up left with their d*** in hand by USA, and if Russia do engage in a conventional war, all that stable and safe bureaucracy from the EU will come back to haunt us.
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Suguha_chanApr 12, 2026
+21
Palpatine and Anakin also prefered fast and effective decisions over bureaucratic governments
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USHEV2Apr 12, 2026
+4
>they are coming ofr the next countries in EU.
That's why I think they will let Orban lose. If they rig shit for him to stay in power it will result in major unrest in Hungary and may sway other European countries from voting for those types of leaders.
They don't need Orban, Russia is already winning the political battle. They got their stooge Babis in, next is Poland, then France, then Romania.
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sotommyApr 12, 2026
+4
They won't and can't. Don't underestimate us
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Infidel8Apr 12, 2026
+2
> And when they are done there, they are coming ofr the next countries in EU.
Right... because if you notice, the US doesn't befriend countries anymore. It only befriends the extremist right within those countries.
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Chowder110Apr 12, 2026
+1
should orban not step down when he losses EU will blockade hungary until he does
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ReppetiApr 12, 2026
+42
If Orban wins there will be riots, big ones. We won't let them steal our future
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griphookkApr 12, 2026
+4
Thank god.
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VajaspiritosApr 12, 2026
+14
It will obviously be. The question is, if they can rig it hard enough to win
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number39utopiaApr 12, 2026
+57
Something tells Putin ally orban is gonna get his gestapo to rig the votes in his favor
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mesmeroooApr 12, 2026
+34
not the voting, the counting, that's how it's done
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vahokifApr 12, 2026
+23
The counting is actually the part that can't be rigged because it's done by representatives of all parties.
Voting on the other hand can be influenced by paying and blackmailing people. Watch the documentary The price of a vote.
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helmApr 12, 2026
+5
Orban has been a "confident" strongman. In that perspective, having the opposition be there and watch as few vote for them is a sing of power itself. I really hope Orban's plan B doesn't work out.
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winterwonderwormApr 12, 2026
+42
I'm actually fairly optimistic. If the Axis of Orange was so sure they could just cheat their way to victory, why send Vance? Or Netanyahu? Why all the billboards? I think they're worried.
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xavandetjerApr 12, 2026
+25
They're worried, because rigging an election at this point has a big risk of civil unrest to it. Also if it can be proven they can lose access to inside information from the EU, which is what makes fidesz useful to Russia.
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sol-4Apr 12, 2026
+7
> Axis of Orange
Love it, don't mind me if I steal it
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Invisible7hunderApr 12, 2026
+2
The Dutch do not agree to this new terminology.
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windsurfmaniacApr 12, 2026
+13
The world will know Orban lost. Everyone is out on the streets! Hungary wants freedom from Putin. The world is done with Putin and Donald.
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tochirovApr 12, 2026
+12
Good news everyone!!!!
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VixensPoppiesApr 12, 2026
+8
Trump is trying to buy Orban a win as well! As the good Russian asset Trump are!
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_0611Apr 12, 2026
+16
Trump is gonna do the same.
Because that's what far-right nationalists do.
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BeatNo4548Apr 12, 2026
+10
Yup. He wants it rigged so only Trump and the GOP can win. That's why they want the SAVE act. They can challenge the eligibility of anyone who might vote against them. I'm convinced that's part of how he won the last two times. They purged millions from the voter rolls.
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Last-DarknessApr 12, 2026
+10
Their right. 2 or the 3 most powerful countries in the world endorse Orban. Those two countries are also currently the most blatantly corrupt.
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nhozemphtekApr 12, 2026
+13
It’s up to Hungarians to prove it like Venezuelans did.
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PassiveSpamBotApr 12, 2026
+9
The last 3 were so why break tradition now?
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TigereyesxxApr 12, 2026
+3
Putin holds the strings..
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FixedFun1Apr 12, 2026
+4
I do believe it too and I'm not Hungarian.
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yaderkuvbolotoApr 12, 2026
+3
already videos floating around of thugs patrolling voting booths, exactly like in russia and belarus
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Ok_Suit_196Apr 12, 2026
+3
Go vote! Few votes can be manypulated, but not milions.
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FrogsJumpFromPussyApr 12, 2026
+6
Thankfully they were wrong. Orban has conceded. Tisza will most likely win supermajority.
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xBabepentelApr 12, 2026
+11
Does this poll reflect the rural areas as well,or is this sentiment mostly coming from Budapest?
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AshgedApr 12, 2026
+30
Buying votes is an open secret in rutal areas. Recently a whole mini documentary came out with people who were motivated to admit participating with the upcoming election.
So yes, everybody everywhere expects some vote manipulation. The question is only the extent of it.
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isthereadrwhoApr 12, 2026
+3
We think so also, AND we expect same here in US
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marsisblackApr 12, 2026
+3
And they are right to think it. Here is hoping the projections hold true.
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Late_Tonight_9148Apr 12, 2026
+3
"Will be"?
We have videos of local fidesz functionaries paying and holding a block party for people who voted for them.
[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmMIYcF1tg](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SmMIYcF1tg)
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CrownCommandoApr 12, 2026
+3
Not just Hungarians that believe that.
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riisikasApr 12, 2026
+9
Bro, the past few days events have started to make me believe as if Hungary is a random third world country, that any other country can control? Wtf
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mesmeroooApr 12, 2026
+8
welcome to the new world
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istasanApr 12, 2026
+6
Look at how all in his close circle now happen to be some of Hungary’s richest people. It is way worse than most Europeans grasp.
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wecanhaveallthreeApr 12, 2026
+11
The headline is somewhat misleading.
>But 79% of the Hungarian public fear **foreign interference** in the electoral process.
When I think of 'rigged or manipulated', I think of problems with *votes* (or those casting them) rather than foreign *pressure*. I mean, the US Vice President went down to Hungary to rah-rah the current administration - did 21% of Hungarians sleep in or something?
'Foreign interference' is a consequence of the global world we live in. If we took it seriously, the US should be hauling journalists from across the world in for articles critical of Trump. There are obviously levels to it, but there is a big jump between 'foreign press prints copy critical of X' or 'foreign dignitary comes to shake hands and say 'you do a good job' and 'rigging' or 'manipulation'.
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Capable_Kiwi2514Apr 12, 2026
+1
>Foreign interference' is a consequence of the global world we live in. If we took it seriously, the US should be hauling journalists from across the world in for articles critical of Trump
No, because a negative editorial by foreign press is not within the scope of what foreign interference refers to.
It can start to lean that way a if the editorial is part of a state-orchestrated influencing campaign, in which the editorialist is acting as an undisclosed foreign agent.
Political concepts always have a relevant scope to their definition. The idea that taking it seriously requires arresting foreign editorialists is a reduction to the extreme.
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Ok_Campaign_4775Apr 12, 2026
+2
Yeah, i am also afraid orban will suddenly win with 123% of the votes like his r*ssian owner
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StrangerFew2424Apr 12, 2026
+2
It most certainly will be... question is, whether it's enough to allow that Fascist scumbag to steal the election & cling to power.
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Friendlyfire2996Apr 12, 2026
+2
I know how they feel
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filmguy36Apr 12, 2026
+2
But pleas vote anyway!
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meowmixVStrumpApr 12, 2026
+2
2 hours, 10 minutes from now until we know the election results, correct? 8PM Hungary's time IS normally when we'd know who wins this?
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NerdyNThickApr 12, 2026
+2
Not rigged! Or... not rigged well enough!
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quokka70Apr 12, 2026
+1
"Oh, no! The computers went down."
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Anywhere_DismalApr 12, 2026
+6
That pos jd couch f***** flew to hungary, probably had fElons software to rig election machines with him to implement over there. Its not a spy novel, these idiots are truly stupid enough to get caught with every crime they commit.
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MrteamtacticalaApr 12, 2026
+4
How's the beatles song go? "We're gonna have a....peaceful reaction to rigged elections" oh no that's not the one
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firthyApr 12, 2026
+2
Majority of the world believes that.
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GlutenFree_GamerApr 12, 2026
+2
I mean....it worked in the United States.
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uknownixApr 12, 2026
+1
We'll know in 24hrs.
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SpicyRhubarbApr 12, 2026
+1
Orban knows he's up against the ropes, obviously he's going to try to rig it
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ryeguymftApr 12, 2026
+1
if it is, they need to protest until Orban is forcibly removed from office. I’m worried too. it’s clear he will lose a fair election, but will he pull a Lukashenko?
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Adventurous_Bus_437Apr 13, 2026
+1
Get ducked orban
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Steelbill77Apr 13, 2026
+1
Republican playbook.
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SubstantialNature368Apr 12, 2026
It happened in USA and it's going to happen again.
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Suguha_chanApr 12, 2026
+1
Maybe Elon Musk helps Putin and Trump
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The-Great-MulleinApr 13, 2026
+1
Do they still think it was rigged?
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JohnnygunnzApr 12, 2026
+1
Multiple Americans do, too.
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IntentionDeep651Apr 12, 2026
+1
they dont think this, thats the fact already jusz study how their election works how they changed it in favor to their benefit ( in rificulous fasion ) not just some small benefit too. Voting from abroad banned for people who left this shtshow
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SkipsHApr 12, 2026
+1
But JD Vance is there to stop the EU from getting involved. /s
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RoleTall2025Apr 12, 2026
-9
cant we just eject them from the EU already? Hungary is the shit child of Europe.
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branchfoundationApr 12, 2026
+27
Give them a chance to vote.
Edit: and there you have it.
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Current-CodeApr 12, 2026
+5
Give them a chance to revolt
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GlokzDNBApr 12, 2026
+7
So, Monday?
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mesmeroooApr 12, 2026
+5
yeap
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lefixApr 12, 2026
+16
imho, if Hungary manages to vote Orban out and shifts back towards the EU, that is an arguably better outcome than kicking Hungary out, and a valid argument for keeping the current system.
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meowmixVStrumpApr 12, 2026
Orban WOULD lose if it wasn't rigged, I'm certain of it. Conservatives DO NOT WIN national elections while gas prices are rising to this degree (if they are the incumbent).
The only historical counterexample to this is Bush 2 winning in 2004, but he flooded everything with the message that Kerry would raise gas prices even higher due to his promise of a $0.50 gas tax (for the environment). As always, ppl chose money over the environment.
Orban doesn't have a message like that. If this election is fair, he'll lose. Conservatives need to stay home to save gas money. They're not even motivated enough to get to the polls b/c their feelings have big boo boos due to the higher gas prices.
The price of oil is the MAIN factor in whether or not they'll show up to vote b/c higher gas prices never fails to put a face on conservatives akin to the face a baby makes when it shits itself. It's not like they're going to stop acting based on feelings and start thinking NOW. That simply won't happen and fortunately they feel terrible right now.
Correct me if there are more examples of incumbent conservatives winning NATIONAL elections while gas prices are soaring like this, please. I'm looking forward to bad news for Putin soon with these election results.
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