I get the feeling laying off thousands and thousands of people during what seems like a recession and a bubble is going to get pretty heated.
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idontknowjuspickone3 days ago
+182
“Seems like” is doing a lot of work…
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KidOcelot3 days ago
+65
It’s only the beginning of a massive Depression part Deux, right after the Roaring 2020s.
Then WW2 Boogaloo: WW3
History repeats itself? 🤷♀️
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Swamp_Ape_923 days ago
+13
With a war in Europe and a war in the Middle East, we’re probably already in ww3. People forget that ww2 started with a bunch of smaller wars years before France and England declaring war on Germany. Many consider Japan’s invasion of Manchuria in 1931 the start of ww2 and Germany’s invasion of Poland just what made it officially a world war. We’d just need China to launch their planned invasion of Taiwan to make this one official.
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bertch31323 hr ago
+1
We've been at war since about 2013/2014 really, they got a good decade head start on project 2025 so s lot of that activity was leading up to now
To me that's about where all the biggest bullshit starts and I really noticed an increase in psyops online
Just a trickle at first and then suddenly it's Marxism to prevent discussion of candidates
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flextendo3 days ago
+16
Hope I can make it to those chapters:
„2 world 2 war“ and „world war Tokyo drift“
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SeaUrchinSalad3 days ago
+2
I think you mean Tokyo rift: that's the one with the Kaiju
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Tmachine70313 days ago
+4
These 20s absolutely weren’t roaring
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ssthehunter2 days ago
+3
They are, just for the very few.
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KidOcelot3 days ago
+3
Most definitely not! But we did have the Spanish Flu a la Covid style 😅
Once the oil blockade starts affecting the refineries in the next 5 months, we gonna real feel it 😬
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gazetron3 days ago
It's given itself a bad back 😅
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Ben_steel3 days ago
+332
You worry to much, every one who loses their job will have the honor to die for Israel.
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ThisOnes4JJ3 days ago
+101
"For Epstein"
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1nVrWallz3 days ago
+29
Same thing.
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TheRexRider3 days ago
+12
For Epsrael.
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Feverstone3 days ago
-6
Underrated comment
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OnTheList-YouTube2 days ago
*too much
Too = too much, too few, too fast, too slow, etc.
Or "also".
Now you know that too.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+24
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zerocoolforschool3 days ago
+12
“Waifu describe sucking my johnson.”
“I’m sorry Dave, I can’t do that.”
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axonxorz3 days ago
+1
"your balls bounced boobily" hey wait!
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Kitakitakita3 days ago
+4
What is a laifu, without one's waifu?
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mrinfinitepp3 days ago
+1
I wanna read more, do you have a link
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[deleted]3 days ago
+23
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emth3 days ago
+4
Greatest country in the world...?
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gazetron3 days ago
And far more likely to result in death than this "attempted murder"
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VWGLHI3 days ago
-2
They aren’t smart…
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sndtrb893 days ago
+268
oh this? its german, for *the openai the*
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ImSuperSerialGuys3 days ago
+26
No one who speaks german could be an evil man!
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NewsCards3 days ago
+665
> OpenAI said in a statement "there is no place in our democracy for violence against anyone, regardless of the AI lab they work at or side of the debate they belong to".
Interesting.
You guys think this includes the violence facilitated by OpenAI's defense contracts?
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outerproduct3 days ago
+134
Pretty hard for a dead guy to argue.
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[deleted]3 days ago
+19
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Don_Ford3 days ago
+91
Violence is never the option, until it is the only option.
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SnooPets18263 days ago
+163
Rich people love civility because it gives them the moral high ground while they systematically destroy thousands of lives.
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GenderNeutralCosmos3 days ago
+45
It gives them a moral safe guard, if they act like they care it's wrong to oppose them, even when they're obviously crocodile tears
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VWGLHI3 days ago
+8
No, no, they THINK they have it, they never did.
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bunker_man2 days ago
+2
You say this, but civility isn't exactly what Trump has been endorsing.
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blofly2 days ago
+1
Why religions were invented by people.
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reformedMedas3 days ago
+7
Violence should never be the first nor the last option. Somewhere inbetween is the sweet spot.
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_you_are_the_problem2 days ago
+2
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, as they say.
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Aegis_Of_Nox3 days ago
+40
What's he got to do with democracy anyway? Hes not a government official. Why are they talking like this was an attack on democracy
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4th-Estate3 days ago
+20
Besides the fact that he's trying to buy Greenland so they can start techno autocratic city states. All those tech bros are anti democracy.
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marino13103 days ago
+7
Well he owns multiple government officials so it’s basically the same thing
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Kaarl_Mills3 days ago
+35
Claiming to be for democracy while they stab it in the kidneys
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Gender_is_a_Fluid3 days ago
+23
Making living unaffordable is a form of violence as well.
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Binksyboo2 days ago
+1
Exactly. They are bringing Americans too damn close to the line of “nothing left to lose”.
You never let the working class get to that point because there are hundreds of millions of us, and only a handful of them.
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Outrageous-Crazy-2533 days ago
+11
It’s odd they are framing this as “debate.” I don’t think anyone’s issue with AI is debate, except perhaps, the lack of one.
OpenAI is currently promising to end art, literature, and any kind of intellectual pursuit as a profession. And replace it with hard labor and caretaking jobs. This is their explicit goal. They wrote it in their proposal to the U.S. government. No more intellectually interesting jobs. Only changing diapers at the care home.
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savvyelemental3 days ago
+4
They're called war contracts now.
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wowlock_taylan3 days ago
+3
''Why are you mad that we are trying to create literal AI death drones for the fascists?''
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dotcomse3 days ago
+1
Bro that’s outside of our democracy do you even Weasel Word?
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Mrjlawrence3 days ago
+1
OpenAI’s solution will be to help dismantle democracy
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VladimiroPudding3 days ago
+548
The guy who threw a molotov cocktail at the gate of his house is being charged with attempted murder? And Sam Altman was not even at the residence when it happened?
Ah, the Luigi Mangione judicial treatment, I see.
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PresidentKraznov3 days ago
+124
Those charges are going to get tossed so fast it's not funny. No way they can prosecute on that shit.
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M0nk3yDLufffy3 days ago
+183
They’re purposely sensationalizing it because “men who threw Molotov cocktail gets charged with vandalism” doesn’t really instill any fear, they know the attempted murder won’t stick, so this is the best they have. f*** the rich, they’re f****** terrified, that’s why they’re rarely in public anymore, without bodyguards
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ToadlyAwes0me3 days ago
+44
It was so obvious when media stations called it an attack on his house instead of vandalism.
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Zorothegallade3 days ago
-14
If he didn't know he wasn't home, it's still conspiracy with intention to commit.
If you tell someone there's a person in a car and they willingly throw it off a cliff, they showed they had full intention to kill that person even if they were never in danger to begin with.
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cheesenachos123 days ago
+10
Conspiracy involves an agreement between two or more parties. Not sure thats present here.
But yes it is an attempt if you tried to commit a crime, but failed because the circumstances were not as you believed them to be. So if he thought he was home, and threw the molotov with the intention of killing, yes thats likely attempted murder
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PresidentKraznov3 days ago
+13
This guy tossed a single molotov at a GATE. It might have been a huge house and it might have been a small house, and it might have been a shack, and it might have been a grass hut, but it was none of those things. It was a gate. Now unless he was seriously special needs, it's going to be incredibly hard to prove that anyone without pudding for brains actually believed with intent that this would result in anything beyond a charred gate. He would have to have believed it was going to result in a mansion burning down much less killing anyone inside before 10,000 Palo Alto (or whatever) firefighters for the rich descended and put it out or otherwise rescued whomever may be inside. There is no way this charge sticks.
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cheesenachos123 days ago
+2
I agree. Unless it was in an area with high fire danger, and there was flammable vegetation in close proximity to the gate that then connected to the house.
And yes, the people who throw molotov cocktails generally are of lesser critical thinking skills than average.
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SMF673 days ago
+6
And do we even know that the guy who "fired at his house" according to the media did anything more than negligently discharge a firearm somewhere in the vicinity - as far as i remember that's all he was even charged with.
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PresidentKraznov3 days ago
+5
Right, I get it but who's the dipshit DA that wants to eat that rebuke, lol.
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glaba31413 days ago
+3
They want to push this instead of the warehouse fires
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Substantial_Heat_5503 days ago
+41
Im not supporting the charges and I don’t practice in CA. But I doubt these charges get “tossed” at all.
Attempted Murder in CA basically requires proof that the defendant 1. had the specific intent to kill a person and 2. took a direct & ineffective step toward committing that killing.
Here, even with the limited info we have, it appears the Defendant targeted Altman and went to his house with firebombs and an illegal firearm, threw a firebomb at the home, and essentially had a kill list. It’s not a huge leap for the finder-of-fact to find both elements were met from this little info alone. It’s likely the DA has much more than this.
Factual Impossibility isn’t a defense (most places) so the fact Altman wasn’t home isn’t really relevant.
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Cool_Flamingo67793 days ago
+14
He threw the molotov cocktail at a gate pretty far away from any building. It'll be interesting to see if they can prove intent based on his manifesto and threats at the office or if they just plead him down to arson.
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Babylovessauce1 day ago
+1
How do you prove he intended to kill vs simply damage property?
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Substantial_Heat_5501 day ago
+1
Circumstantial and Direct evidence are technically given the same weight (Jurors can give credibility to the witness/evidence as they see fit).
It’s not a huge leap to get he had an intent to kill based off the little we know. This is by no means a slam dunk case, but (based off our VERY limited information) there is a very real chance of a conviction with the right jury.
Also… importantly is lessor included charges. I don’t know CA law enough to speak to its effect in this case. But there is likely some form of Agg. Assault that would be a viable lesser included…
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BidenGlazer3 days ago
+22
So, you see, someone doesn't have to be in the home for you to be trying to murder them.
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Straightwad3 days ago
+4
Yeah I have a feeling if he had thrown a Molotov cocktail at my trashcan on the curb, which is closer to my home than Altmans gate is to his mansion, he wouldn’t be getting attempted murder charges lol.
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dorkofthepolisci3 days ago
Yeah my first thought was that this seems like an obvious case of overcharging.
Arson? Vandalism? Sure
Attempted murder seems like a stretch
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Ancient-Beat-16143 days ago
+26
Maybe it would be a stretch if he wasn't explicitly carrying a kill list with him.
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bunker_man2 days ago
+2
Isn't this the same guy who went to some offices and threatened to kill everyone there? Stating that your goal is to kill people kind of harms the claim that your goal wasn't to kill people.
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American_PissAnt3 days ago
+1
When gang members shoot at each other they usually only get charged with aggravated battery.
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Mckooldude3 days ago
-2
That’s what happens when you punch up instead of down or across.
-2
Inimicus333 days ago
-7
Being imprisoned for attempted murder?!
That's like getting the Nobel prize for attempted chemistry! 🤡
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KoppeDFO3 days ago
+100
Don't you just love rich privilege. They can do everything and no jail it's just for us poors
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aatmalife3 days ago
+5
Eventually one of them will use their wealth for the good of humanity. The actual good of humanity. Not Miller/ Thiel / Musk ideas of "good". Right...? ...please? Life doesn't have to fuckin suck for every being.
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Aerhyce3 days ago
+29
Genuine "for the good of humanity" altruistic people never amass so much wealth for themselves in the first place.
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Gender_is_a_Fluid3 days ago
+15
They never will, people get rich by being exploitative pieces of shit. For every dollar they have, some worker was robbed of it.
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t3hOutlaw3 days ago
+1
Didn't the Gates Foundation do a lot of good philanthropic work?
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dizzy_lizzy3 days ago
+8
Ehhh, a bit, but philanthropic orgs are not a moral good. They launder the image of the super rich, obfuscate the real causes of harm and their meaningful lasting solutions, and serve as a bandaid on a rotting corpse. All while providing a tax shelter of sorts for them to fund their pet projects through, rather than having the funds allocated where the people's needs are most dire.
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bunker_man2 days ago
+1
This doesn't really mean much though. Yeah, we don't live in utopia, but we also aren't going to a decade from now so pretending that working on stuff in between doesn't matter is pointless. The amount of peolle living in absolute poverty has halved in the last few decades, so good is still being done even if the world is flawed.
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CackleberryOmelettes3 days ago
+2
If you want to do good for humanity you will never become a billionaire. You end up spending it before you can hoard it.
So no, there will never be a benevolent billionaire. They are all depraved inhuman scum. That's the basic qualification needed to become a billionaire in the first place.
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Tomimi2 days ago
+1
The laws are for the poor, until the poor decide the laws aren't for them then it becomes a revolution.
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bunker_man2 days ago
+1
To be fair, rich people aren't the only ones who got away with abusing children. Epstein seems like the end boss, but only a tiny portion of abused children are abused by the rich and many never see justice.
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M0nk3yDLufffy3 days ago
+1
True but in exchange they aren’t able to freely walk around in public without watching their backs
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Usual-Caregiver55893 days ago
+48
I heard he was just trying to make risotto
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garbagetruc3 days ago
+6
It's soup for my family
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cedriceent3 days ago
+2
"Damn it, I said 'Parmesan', not 'Harm a Sam'!"
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WindowsVistaWzMyIdea2 days ago
+4
Billionaires should not exist. They should get taxed out of existence....too much wealth hoarding on this planet. Not enough compassion. Life for everyone would improve if billionaires did not exist
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kaiiizen3 days ago
+33
The guy accused of SA by his sister also known as the CEO of OpenAI?
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dbigjaybowski3 days ago
+20
This is why we have juries.
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Parfait_Prestigious3 days ago
-8
And nullification
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scientician853 days ago
+28
The Butlerian Jihad has begun. Enjoy living in fear, Broligarchs.
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The_Crimson_Fucker3 days ago
-3
Ya Hya Chouhade!
-3
StopSpinningLikeThat3 days ago
+15
Massively over-charged. The guy was not even home at the time.
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sonofeevil3 days ago
+40
People have been successfully charged with attempted murder for shooting corpses.
Whether it was possible to kill Altman isn't factored in.
They just need to prove intent and means (I think)
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KingOfTheCouch132 days ago
+1
Charged or convicted? Because they can charge anyone for anything
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sonofeevil2 days ago
+2
Oops! Convicted* good pick up! My paplogies
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Substantial_Heat_5503 days ago
+10
Impossibility isn’t a defense on stuff like this.
I haven’t seen it applied quite like this. Definitely gonna be a hard sell to a jury but unless there is case law/statutory limitation I think it is technically valid.
Note: I am not huge fan of how they charged this (based off what we know) but this type of behavior needs to be aggressively discouraged.
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Outrageous-Crazy-2533 days ago
-6
Altman is a terrified sociopathic liar and ultra billionaire. Not a good legal opponent.
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Substantial_Heat_5502 days ago
+4
Altman is the victim here, not a “legal opponent.” It will California v. Defendant NOT Altman v. Defendant.
Based off what we know so far, I probably wouldn’t even call Altman to testify if I was presenting this case at trial.
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Tiffany-X3 days ago
+7
He’s just trying to save humanity from the clankers
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Necessary_Range_32612 days ago
+2
Who was the guy Sam Altman had murdered?
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Johnnadawearsglasses3 days ago
+3
Such a shame to see a young person totally ruin their life doing something that had zero chance of making any impact even if it was perfectly successful.
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Fartenstein653 days ago
+6
It seems justice comes quick for people who mess with billionaires. If it was Altman he wouldn’t smell courts for years if ever.
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xdr013 days ago
“Attempted murder. Now honestly what is that? Can you win a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?”
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TiredOfBeingTired283 days ago
-1
Got a throw the book at them for daring to think against "their betters" as always with law in America.
-1
Don_Ford3 days ago
-2
I don't see how that's possible, considering he was with me that night.
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jdefr2 days ago
-2
I remember seeing you too chilling at the bar while this was happening.. could have been you two
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DerConro3 days ago
+1
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anubis13923 days ago
+1
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HeyYes77762 days ago
+1
This guy will get more jail time than the old lady that ran over a family, than the crazy guy that stabbed the grandma…
This is the only instant action we will ever see. Threats to the scammy billionaire’s is sacrosanct in SF….. meanwhile people can’t ride public transportation without meth, nudity, and assault.
@mayor laurie you can protect both rich and poor.
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slantedangle1 day ago
+1
_Man charged with attempted murder of a metal gate at the home of OpenAI's Sam Altman_
It wasn't even on the house. Mostly just burned itself out on the metal gate.
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uRtrds12 hr ago
+1
Betting in kalshi sam will get more of those.
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Mars_W_BOI3 days ago
Still no Epstein charges though huh?
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DriftMantis3 days ago
+1
Do they charge everyone who commits attempted arson with murder as well?
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Itsgettingmessi692 days ago
+1
So then he(sam) should be charged with attempted murder as well. especially since AI data centers ruined peoples drinking water, and sometimes livelihood if they’re farm owners.
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sleepinginthebushes_3 days ago
Do they give a Nobel Prize for Attempted Chemistry?
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TheGlassHammer3 days ago
-2
Remember two words: Jury Nullification
-2
PinAccomplished9273 days ago
-9
Whoever it was, they were watching LOTR with me at the time of the incident. They couldn't have done it.
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HooliganBeav3 days ago
-6
Extended Editions or Theatrical?
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EitherRecognition2423 days ago
-2
I sure he will say CharGPT talked me into it
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Kujaix3 days ago
Will the jury care? Possibly, but it will be a sign of the times if it's a legit case and people just don't generally care.
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Odd-Syllabub-36423 days ago
-6
You mean the guy who’s actively contributing to the fall of countless jobs/projects, rampant Ai Slop, and the horrible environmental impacts of AI? ANYWAYS….
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xiaopewpew3 days ago
-6
I think it is self defense. Sam did threaten us we are one AI model release away from mass extinction.
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ClumzyMunky3 days ago
-5
Jury invalidation. The only weapon we still have.
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kinglittlenc3 days ago
-4
Hopefully this guy gets a long sentence. There are way too many idiots willing to copy this nonsense. Luckily he was dumb enough to basically carry around a confession and a hit list.
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mrcoy2 days ago
Throwing that lit cocktail over a fence was never going to kill anyone
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zeolus1232 days ago
Nah. Couldn't have been him. He was at my place watching jury duty.
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DrBoots3 days ago
-14
"Attempted murder? Now honestly, what is that? Do they give a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?"
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CackleberryOmelettes3 days ago
-2
Trumped up charges and media bullshit. As far as I'm concerned the man was just blowing off some steam, no one got hurt. They should let him go.
-2
Kitakitakita3 days ago
-4
Attempted murdeersrs on AI golems gets the same treatment from me as shoplifters in a grocery store
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Zanian193 days ago
-7
I guess vandalism becomes attempted murder when the victim is rich.
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gmkeros3 days ago
-5
for following a risotto recipe?!
-5
Admirable-Drama-4323 days ago
-4
People fear AI becoming dangerous one day meanwhile humans are already acting like the final boss
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jdefr2 days ago
+1
No one genuinely fears that. They know humans with using AI to cause problems are the real issue.
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WarbossTodd3 days ago
-4
We must protect the billionaires at all costs!!!
Edit: Do I really have to point out this is satire? C'mon people.
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jdefr2 days ago
Who will think of the poor old billionaire!!! /sarcasm
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jhill5152 days ago
-1
Murder implies that the suspect *knew* Altman would be home. Given that he's a high-profile CEO who's always on travel, that might be an interesting thing to ask the Prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt...
Not going to touch the domestic terrorism and/or destruction of property charges. But murder... Someone's trying to make an example, and it's not a very good one.
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EddieMcClintock3 days ago
-5
For trying to follow a risotto recipe? To enjoy a succulent risotto meal?
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Scoo3 days ago
-6
Attempted murder. Now honestly what is that? Can you win a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
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TheAnswerUsedToBe423 days ago
-2
What's the over/under on polymarket for attempts this year?
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